Werewolf LXI - Ocean's Eleven (GAME OVER, SEE PAGE 19 FOR RESULT.)

[Barkeep49]

Purdue, I would suggest sending, if you haven't already, a copy of the basic villager PM so it's not possible for the good guys (i.e. the players on my side) to form a COT too easily.

[Chief Rum]

"Ted Nugent called. He wants his suit back."

Villager checking in.

[PurdueBrad]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Purdue, I would suggest sending, if you haven't already, a copy of the basic villager PM so it's not possible for the good guys (i.e. the players on my side) to form a COT too easily.

I typed each one differently actually but this wording was i n most:

You are a simple villager. Good luck!


Anything further in a PM revealed roles, items, or specialty rules.

[chesapeake]

Villager here.

[chesapeake]

That must make it my job to put the "simple" in simple villager.

[Abe Sargent]

Im here, but watching the football right now

[RendeR]

Checking in, "simple villager" as usual.

[ntndeacon]

I am here as well, but what a game!

[Passacaglia]

Checking in. Still mostly getting settled tonight, but I'll be on more from work tomorrow.

[Chief Rum]

Standard Chief Rum Monday post.

I am back from vacation at both of my jobs, which means my Monday and Tuesday are back to their usual. I will be mostly unavailable from now until Wednesday, except late at night. So I have to get a vote in now.

VOTE CRONIN

Why? Simple. I decided he's the most dangerous wolf, IMO, of the players in the game. So just in case he actually is a wolf...

No in-game reason for this vote other than my need to vote now, so anyone following it without good reason should probably looked upon with reasonable suspicion.

See you all tomorrow night (I hope).

[Chief Rum]

However, the villagers have one other win set that is special to the Oceans 11 game. Each night, Danny Oceans is to PM a player's name and this person will take the lead in attempting to knock off one of the casinos. Each night five random players (may be villager, wolf or rogue) will have this ability and if Danny's choice matches, than the villagers will successfully knock off one of the casinos. If all five casinos are knocked off, the villagers score a major victory and win the game outright. However, if Danny is killed, the villagers lose this win-set opportunity.

Okay, one other thing, just to calrify before I go. I was a little confused by how this mechanic goes. PurdueBrad, if you're free to answer any of this, I would appreciate it.

So if I understand this correct, whoever is the Danny Ocean character will send in a name. Player name or character name? And if the character name, does that mean Danny Ocean knows what characters are in the game? And does he know what characters are wolves, villagers or the rogue?

And the GM selects five names (once again, player names or character names; and can characters not in the game come up?), I assume at random? And if Danny Ocean's name is on that list of five names, a casino gets hit? Do I have that right?

Will the five know, either before or after deadline, if they were on that list of five? And will the target player/character know his name was submitted by Danny Ocean as his choice?

And which casinos get hit? Will that also determine the success of this mechanic? Do we take chances at one casino until it gets hit, or is each name selected each night associated with one particular casino, meaning any particular casino, chosen on the name matchup, could fall? Do the number of names selected fall as the number of casinos hit rises?

Sorry for all the questions. Just looking for clarity. Hopefully the answers will help the village while I am away tomorrow.

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Okay, one other thing, just to calrify before I go. I was a little confused by how this mechanic goes. PurdueBrad, if you're free to answer any of this, I would appreciate it.

So if I understand this correct, whoever is the Danny Ocean character will send in a name. Player name or character name? And if the character name, does that mean Danny Ocean knows what characters are in the game? And does he know what characters are wolves, villagers or the rogue?

And the GM selects five names (once again, player names or character names; and can characters not in the game come up?), I assume at random? And if Danny Ocean's name is on that list of five names, a casino gets hit? Do I have that right?

Will the five know, either before or after deadline, if they were on that list of five? And will the target player/character know his name was submitted by Danny Ocean as his choice?

And which casinos get hit? Will that also determine the success of this mechanic? Do we take chances at one casino until it gets hit, or is each name selected each night associated with one particular casino, meaning any particular casino, chosen on the name matchup, could fall? Do the number of names selected fall as the number of casinos hit rises?

Sorry for all the questions. Just looking for clarity. Hopefully the answers will help the village while I am away tomorrow.

Good Questions! I thouhgt of some of them, and wasnt looking forward to typing it out!

[PurdueBrad]

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

So if I understand this correct, whoever is the Danny Ocean character will send in a name. Player name or character name? And if the character name, does that mean Danny Ocean knows what characters are in the game? And does he know what characters are wolves, villagers or the rogue?

And the GM selects five names (once again, player names or character names; and can characters not in the game come up?), I assume at random? And if Danny Ocean's name is on that list of five names, a casino gets hit? Do I have that right?

Will the five know, either before or after deadline, if they were on that list of five? And will the target player/character know his name was submitted by Danny Ocean as his choice?

And which casinos get hit? Will that also determine the success of this mechanic? Do we take chances at one casino until it gets hit, or is each name selected each night associated with one particular casino, meaning any particular casino, chosen on the name matchup, could fall? Do the number of names selected fall as the number of casinos hit rises?

Sorry for all the questions. Just looking for clarity. Hopefully the answers will help the village while I am away tomorrow.

Not a problem Chief, happy to answer.

Danny will send in a player name (forum name) rather than character name. Danny does not know anyone's role, only his own.

If Danny selects one of the five randomly chosen names each night, casino gets hit. The casinos will simply go down in the order listed in the rules. So you would keep trying to hit the first one before moving on to number two. There are some other random items built in here but they may/may not come in to play.

The five players will likely find out in the write-up each night that they were the 'chosen ones' but whether or not the casino gets knocked off has no bearing on any other player's action so you can't really punish them.

The number of names do not change, so the less people alive, the greater your chances of knocking off a casino, which puts some pressure on the wolves depending on the state of things.

[SnDvls]

Villager checking in

[Barkeep49]

I threw up overnight and still feel queasy today. While I am at work for now, it's quite possible I'm going to be out of commission before the end of the day and so I went to get my vote in early. I like CR's question of who is the most dangerous wolf. I think the answer, for me, is Anxiety, after he just won the last game single handedly.

Vote Anxiety

[claphamsa]

Ok, So Since no one is really saying much (do yalls usualy lynch the person who says the most on the first day?) Ill weigh in here!

Weve had 2 votes for people who might be the most dangerous wolf....

While this logic certainly makes sense, wouldnt being the most dangerous wolf usualy mean they are the most dangerous villager to the wolves?

And not to sound mean here, but can anyone confirm Chiefs odd work schedule? Just want to make sure that he isnt setting up a built in excuse for questionble voting Hopefull Im just a n00b and he really does work odd hours!

[Passacaglia]

Just got into work. Tired as hell, though. No, we don't lynch the most talkative people on Day 1 -- it's just that oftentimes there's not much to say. And yeah, CR usually works weird hours.

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Just got into work. Tired as hell, though. No, we don't lynch the most talkative people on Day 1 -- it's just that oftentimes there's not much to say. And yeah, CR usually works weird hours.

Thanks!

[Barkeep49]

Weve had 2 votes for people who might be the most dangerous wolf....

While this logic certainly makes sense, wouldnt being the most dangerous wolf usualy mean they are the most dangerous villager to the wolves?

No. Some players are good at both wolf and villager (hoops comes to mind) but others are much stronger at one role or the other.

[chesapeake]

Good morning, hepcats. I should be around for most of the daylight hours, but I drop out at 6 PM EST and will be out until about 10 PM. I'll vote before I leave.

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

No. Some players are good at both wolf and villager (hoops comes to mind) but others are much stronger at one role or the other.

HMm, also good to know, I guess i havent played enough games to notice a difference!

Thansk!

[jeheinz72]

Mornin' folks, simple villager checking in. Will be around most of the day, though there isn't a whole heckuva a lot to vote on...

[Telle]

Btw, I'm away at training today through Wednesday so I won't be too active during the day.. and evenings will depend on whether or not the two coworkers I'm with want to socialize. And on Wednesday I'll have to do an early vote since we'll be on the road all evening.

[ntndeacon]

Welcome Chesapeake!

Vote Chesapeake

Now you can feel right at home with us.

[chesapeake]

Wow! I feel so loved.

[st.cronin]

Vote Lathum

My reputation as a wolf is highly inflated.

[Passacaglia]

Nice vote for a newbie.

VOTE NTNDEACON

[Telle]

Thoughts on revealing our names?

I'm against it. The names do not align to roles so I don't think there's anything to learn from it. And it could potentially out Danny.

[jeheinz72]

Vote Claphamsa

Mainly because I feel responsible for infecting FOFC Werewolf with his presence (j/k Stefin)

[jeheinz72]

Originally Posted by Telle

Thoughts on revealing our names?

I'm against it. The names do not align to roles so I don't think there's anything to learn from it. And it could potentially out Danny.

Yeah I thought about that, but I don't think it's in our best interest to do it.

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Yeah I thought about that, but I don't think it's in our best interest to do it.

The Wolves would love this! And we gain nothing by it!

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Vote Claphamsa

Mainly because I feel responsible for infecting FOFC Werewolf with his presence (j/k Stefin)

Jerk! I will thrash you like I did Fresno State when you came into town!

vote heinz!

[st.cronin]

Ok, I strongly encourage anybody who hasn't voted to not pick a new candidate, but to put a second vote on somebody.

[Barkeep49]

If it weren't for the Danny bit I'd have already suggested we reveal our names. However, it was because of the importance of keeping his identity secret that I agree with those who urge against a name reveal.

[chesapeake]

Vote NTNDeacon

I'm returning his favor.

I agree with Barkeep's point on not revealing. We need to keep Danny's ID secret.

[claphamsa]

So we have all voted pretty much randomly, excpet for people voting agaisnt somone they may be scared of. hmmm

unvote heinz

[Barkeep49]

I'm not moving my vote yet, but if I were to move my vote it would be to NTN.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

Ok, So Since no one is really saying much (do yalls usualy lynch the person who says the most on the first day?) Ill weigh in here!

Weve had 2 votes for people who might be the most dangerous wolf....

While this logic certainly makes sense, wouldnt being the most dangerous wolf usualy mean they are the most dangerous villager to the wolves?

And not to sound mean here, but can anyone confirm Chiefs odd work schedule? Just want to make sure that he isnt setting up a built in excuse for questionble voting Hopefull Im just a n00b and he really does work odd hours!

Day Ones can be tough. Sometimes we lynch the quiet ones.

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I'm not moving my vote yet, but if I were to move my vote it would be to NTN.

Why him?

Is there anybody who hasn't checked in yet?

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

Day Ones can be tough. Sometimes we lynch the quiet ones.

that seems to be the way it goes

[path12]

I'm checking in as villager, but I'm busy and in an amazingly foul mood, so probably won't be talking much until later.

[Abe Sargent]

Sounds sexy.

[Telle]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Ok, I strongly encourage anybody who hasn't voted to not pick a new candidate, but to put a second vote on somebody.

Well if you insist...

VOTE ST.CRONIN

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

If it weren't for the Danny bit I'd have already suggested we reveal our names. However, it was because of the importance of keeping his identity secret that I agree with those who urge against a name reveal.

Of Course if not for Danny Ocean then the names are just flavoring that have no bearing on your role. It is just as likely that Linus Caldwell (to pick a name at random) is a wolf than being like he is in the movies, a villager.

[ntndeacon]

Unvote Chesapeake

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I'm not moving my vote yet, but if I were to move my vote it would be to NTN.

Hey, I am not always as bad a player as I was last game.

[chesapeake]

unvote ntndeacon

My only reason to vote for him just evaported.

[SnDvls]

just a quick recap we have lots of 1 votes and 2 votes on both St. C & NTN to start off the day

[SnDvls]

dola...and that seems to have changed before I pushed enter...damn I guess I need to refresh more often.

[st.cronin]

Unvotes on day 1 with no good reason actually weird me out more than votes on day 1 with no good reason.