Soccer Thread 2012-13 - Page 2

Big Fo · 07-12-2012, 06:18 PM

By the way, PSG are paying £51m for Ibra and Thiago Silva.

Last year Liverpool spent £55m on Andy Carroll and Stuart Downing.

DaddyTorgo · 07-12-2012, 06:19 PM

Milan in money-saving mode...good times.

sovereignstar v2 · 07-12-2012, 06:59 PM

PSG are in Pot 4. They are fucked. But this move should kick-start the window. Rest assured that Milan will re-invest that money.

Edit: I guess there is a chance they can get into Pot 3.

sovereignstar v2 · 07-12-2012, 07:06 PM

Haha, this is actually a possible UCL Group. Champions of the Big 4 leagues:

Real Madrid, City, Juventus, Dortmund

whomario · 07-12-2012, 07:08 PM

yeah, Dortmund screwed up by not making it out of the group stage of the Europa League 2 years ago to collect some points (they literally don´t have any, they weren´t qualified for europe for a long time before rising up in germany). Heck, even last year in the CL they had a kind draw for a Pot4 team, no way they get another one as easy this year ...

Big Fo · 07-12-2012, 08:04 PM

I dislike that seeding system, it should just be based on the league coefficients imo.

Like Pot A would be England 1-2, Spain 1-2, Italy 1, Germany 1, Portugal 1, France 1 or something.

Maybe only the first two groups could be like this due to all the various playoffs needed to finalize the groups, but it's dumb having a team like Dortmund in Pot 4.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 07-13-2012, 12:43 AM

Sporting KC gets their shot at their first US Open Cup in 8 years. Should be a great environment at Livestrong Park for that game. May have to grab some tickets.

Easy Mac · 07-13-2012, 09:36 AM

Rangers are dropped down to the Third (4th) Division of Scotland. Can't imagine many players are going to be sticking around for this if they can help it.

BBC Sport - Rangers latest

bhlloy · 07-13-2012, 10:25 AM

Sounds like the SPL are going to use to this as their advantage and try to create an SPL2 around Rangers which would essentially kill off the other divisions and make the rest of the SFL semi-pro or amateur.

So much greed in soccer, its getting really hard to follow. Rangers have the support and the backers to get promoted back to SPL in 3 years no matter where they start, but they'd rather blow the whole system up and the SPL will roll over and let them do it. What a great advert for financial responsibility and living within your means. Think FIFA will step into this one, like fuck they will...

Katon · 07-13-2012, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Fo

I dislike that seeding system, it should just be based on the league coefficients imo.

Like Pot A would be England 1-2, Spain 1-2, Italy 1, Germany 1, Portugal 1, France 1 or something.

Maybe only the first two groups could be like this due to all the various playoffs needed to finalize the groups, but it's dumb having a team like Dortmund in Pot 4.

I think the best approach would be a hybrid - teams get some points for their individual results, some (probably based on league position) from their country's coefficient.

European experience does seem to help, after all; neither of the CL finalists was particularly close to being the best team in their respective leagues, especially Chelsea, but their domestic betters couldn't even make it out of the group stages.

MIJB#19 · 07-13-2012, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sovereignstar v2

PSG are in Pot 4. They are fucked. But this move should kick-start the window. Rest assured that Milan will re-invest that money.

Edit: I guess there is a chance they can get into Pot 3.

Odds on Pot 3 are pretty high for PSG. There are 7 teams in qualifying with a higher UEFA ranking and only one of them has to be KO'ed for PSG to move up. Of course, given the seeding, all 7 might make it into the group stage, but I wouldn't be surprised if Fenerbahce, Udinese or Lille would pull the upset vs Braga, Spartak Moscow, Dinamo Kiev, Panathinaikos or Kobenhavn. Heck, on of those last three might even choke on Club Brugge or Feyenoord one round earlier.

Ryan S · 07-13-2012, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Sounds like the SPL are going to use to this as their advantage and try to create an SPL2 around Rangers which would essentially kill off the other divisions and make the rest of the SFL semi-pro or amateur.

So much greed in soccer, its getting really hard to follow. Rangers have the support and the backers to get promoted back to SPL in 3 years no matter where they start, but they'd rather blow the whole system up and the SPL will roll over and let them do it. What a great advert for financial responsibility and living within your means. Think FIFA will step into this one, like fuck they will...

Honestly, it would not surprise me in Rangers end up back in the SPL this coming season. I think it is much more likely that they end up playing in the SPL than Division 3.

The current Rangers ownership is saying the right things ("We will play where they tell us to play") but the SFA and the SPL are desperate not to miss out on the money Rangers can bring into the game.

Most of the SFL chairmen interviewed on TV this evening are sceptical that Rangers will ever play a game in Division 3. Something needs to happen quickly, as the lower league season starts in just a few weeks.

bhlloy · 07-13-2012, 02:49 PM

I'd rather that than a concept of an SPL2 that would finally kill off the SFL, although barely. I've always preferred Rangers to Celtic but if they got themselves in this mess, they should start where anyone else would start and get themselves out of it

MIJB#19 · 07-13-2012, 05:12 PM

It just really isn't fair that Rangers FC falls over, yet (for example) clubs in the primera division with lesser history, whom are years behind on paying the bills and transfer fees and are held alive by local authorities continue to play in the UEFA competitions year after year. Platini, where is your fair play plan that you promised on your election?

Grover · 07-13-2012, 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIJB#19

It just really isn't fair that Rangers FC falls over, yet (for example) clubs in the primera division with lesser history, whom are years behind on paying the bills and transfer fees and are held alive by local authorities continue to play in the UEFA competitions year after year. Platini, where is your fair play plan that you promised on your election?

Valencia, Villarreal?

Grover · 07-17-2012, 12:45 PM

Sky Sports understands Watford are eyeing a move for Udinese midfielder Almen Abdi. Watford owner Giampaolo Pozzo has helped set up the deal as he is also the owner of Udinese.

Anyone else think that this should be illegal?

whomario · 07-24-2012, 01:58 PM

Luxembourgian Club F91 Dudelange just beat Red Bull Salzburg in the CL 2nd qualifying round, first leg 1:0 at home then a 3:4 on the road.

One of the biggest shockers i can recall. Sure, it´s just the 2nd qualifying round and no one cares but still

Only 2 rounds to go until we´ll cheer for a luxembourgian team in the Champions League !

DaddyTorgo · 07-24-2012, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grover

Sky Sports understands Watford are eyeing a move for Udinese midfielder Almen Abdi. Watford owner Giampaolo Pozzo has helped set up the deal as he is also the owner of Udinese.

Anyone else think that this should be illegal?

Yes

Grover · 07-24-2012, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Yes

Pozzo also owns Granada.

bigdawg2003 · 07-31-2012, 02:59 PM

Some friends and I are looking to play fantasy EPL this season. Is there anywhere that does it like fantasy NFL where you draft players exclusively to one team? All the major sites do it salary cap-style where you get 100 million euros to build a team.

MIJB#19 · 07-31-2012, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdawg2003

Some friends and I are looking to play fantasy EPL this season. Is there anywhere that does it like fantasy NFL where you draft players exclusively to one team? All the major sites do it salary cap-style where you get 100 million euros to build a team.

Never heard of any, despite that I'd like that concept for a change. I'm afraid you'd have to set it up yourself(selves), the soccer (fans) world doesn't have that same traditions as the more sophisticated USA sports fans, the soccer world's fantasy sports is rather new and jumped right into the internet and it's world-wide (nationwide) aspect, forcing things into the budget/one-player-per-team concepts.

Ryan S · 07-31-2012, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdawg2003

Some friends and I are looking to play fantasy EPL this season. Is there anywhere that does it like fantasy NFL where you draft players exclusively to one team? All the major sites do it salary cap-style where you get 100 million euros to build a team.

http://www.fantasyleague.com/pro/

This is a pretty expensive site, minimum of about $40 per team and more if you go for one of the more expensive packages.

Ryan S · 07-31-2012, 06:48 PM

While I remember (and I will probably create a thread in a few days), the Fantasy Premier League site is active again and I have created a new FOFC league.

Fantasy Premier League - The official fantasy football game of the Barclays Premier League
Invite code - 173850-50573

sovereignstar v2 · 08-08-2012, 08:37 PM

Paging Mr. Platini, paging Mr. Platini. PSG are ruining football.

Mizzou B-ball fan · 08-09-2012, 01:11 PM

Sporting KC picked up the Cup last night! Amazing finish with how the PK's went down. KC coach was on the radio today talking about how the PK scouting work they did in advance with the KC goalie paid off. The KC goalkeeper actually told one of the PK takers before his kick 'I know where you're going' with a smile. Totally psyched out the player and he kicked it right over the bar.

Grover · 08-09-2012, 01:50 PM

£15m is way too much for Joe Allen, Liverpool.

bigdawg2003 · 08-09-2012, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan S

While I remember (and I will probably create a thread in a few days), the Fantasy Premier League site is active again and I have created a new FOFC league.

Fantasy Premier League - The official fantasy football game of the Barclays Premier League
Invite code - 173850-50573

Just joined. How'd I do for my first time playing Fantasy EPL?

GKs - Howard
DFs - A. Williams/Coloccini/Vertonghen/K. Walker
MFs - Cabaye/Bale/Dempsey/Hazard
STs - Naismith/Jelavic
BENCH - Al-Habsi/Shawcross/Park/Pogrebnyak

chesapeake · 08-09-2012, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan S

While I remember (and I will probably create a thread in a few days), the Fantasy Premier League site is active again and I have created a new FOFC league.

Fantasy Premier League - The official fantasy football game of the Barclays Premier League
Invite code - 173850-50573

Since I watch the games a lot with my daughters on weekend mornings as we eat breakfast, I figured I may as well give it a shot and have something extra to root for.

sovereignstar v2 · 08-09-2012, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grover

£15m is way too much for Joe Allen, Liverpool.

Pretty sure Rodgers agreed not to sign anyone from Swansea for 12 months. Classy guy.

bhlloy · 08-09-2012, 07:02 PM

Technically he agreed not to make the first approach. Also pretty sure the Jacks are happy with 15m for Allen. Laudrup has a whole host of bargains he wants to bring in

SirFozzie · 08-10-2012, 12:38 PM

So, Juventus coach is out till next season for involvement in match fixing..

Chief Rum · 08-10-2012, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie

So, Juventus coach is out till next season for involvement in match fixing..

Just one season? Nice.

miami_fan · 08-12-2012, 08:31 AM

Am I the only one who is shocked that the Community Shield is today? Man, just kinda snuck up on me.

whomario · 08-12-2012, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miami_fan

Am I the only one who is shocked that the Community Shield is today? Man, just kinda snuck up on me.

yeah, definitely. German Supercup between Dortmund and Bayern is also today.

bigdawg2003 · 08-12-2012, 10:01 AM

Anytime you can pay Everton 20 mil for a midfielder who missed most of last season with an injury, you gotta do it.

Was hoping to make it through the transfer period without any big sales, but Rodwell isn't worth 20 mil.

AlexB · 08-12-2012, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miami_fan

Am I the only one who is shocked that the Community Shield is today? Man, just kinda snuck up on me.

No - I didn't realise at all until i just read this!

bulletsponge · 08-12-2012, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdawg2003

Anytime you can pay Everton 20 mil for a midfielder who missed most of last season with an injury, you gotta do it.

Was hoping to make it through the transfer period without any big sales, but Rodwell isn't worth 20 mil.

hes english, that automatically doubles his value

Grover · 08-12-2012, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miami_fan

Am I the only one who is shocked that the Community Shield is today? Man, just kinda snuck up on me.

I was disappointed to have woken up and saw that it was already over.

MIJB#19 · 08-12-2012, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grover

Valencia, Villarreal?

It's been reported that Malaga is selling players left and right, because they can't pay salaries. That's great advertisement to have that club in the Champions League playoffs.

Grover · 08-12-2012, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIJB#19

It's been reported that Malaga is selling players left and right, because they can't pay salaries. That's great advertisement to have that club in the Champions League playoffs.

And Cazorla is now gone

Grover · 08-12-2012, 11:31 AM

South Korean Soccer Player Did Not Receive His Medal Because Of Politics

Critch · 08-12-2012, 11:41 AM

Good to have proper games pretty much back, the long bleak summer of no-soccer since the Euros finished is over.

Thought Man City looked good, they'll either win the league or whoever finishes above them will. Chelsea didnt look great, I'm going for di Matteo out before the end of the season and Chelsea lucky to scrape 4th.

And ESPN3 football is worth watching, Jozy Altidore has just scored 2 great goals in 2 minutes for AZ against Ajax.

sovereignstar v2 · 08-12-2012, 06:38 PM

Oh Hazard.

sovereignstar v2 · 08-12-2012, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdawg2003

Anytime you can pay Everton 20 mil for a midfielder who missed most of last season with an injury, you gotta do it.

Was hoping to make it through the transfer period without any big sales, but Rodwell isn't worth 20 mil.

Good deal. Trying to help out Everton when we can (see Joleon Lescott) so they can push for that Europa spot.

sovereignstar v2 · 08-12-2012, 07:27 PM

Most sources are reporting that Rodwell was sold for 12m (up to 15 million) by the way. So 8 million less than what Liverpool payed Villa for Stewart Downing.

bigdawg2003 · 08-12-2012, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sovereignstar v2

Most sources are reporting that Rodwell was sold for 12m (up to 15 million) by the way. So 8 million less than what Liverpool payed Villa for Stewart Downing.

Yeah the transfer fee kept going down throughout the day, from 20 to 15 to 12 w/ addons. Will be curious to see if Moyes gets to spend any of that money on transfers

Barkeep49 · 08-13-2012, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sovereignstar v2

Oh Hazard.

I want him to be a good player since he was at Man City when I joined it in my FM dynasty and he was THE MAN for years, still starting 5-10 games a year plus subbing in another 5-10 at 36 when he hung it up. But yeah stuff like that...

cschex · 08-15-2012, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan S

While I remember (and I will probably create a thread in a few days), the Fantasy Premier League site is active again and I have created a new FOFC league.

Fantasy Premier League - The official fantasy football game of the Barclays Premier League
Invite code - 173850-50573

Also joined this. My instincts are to build a "complete" team and I have to realize that holding midfielders probably don't have much value here.

Big Fo · 08-15-2012, 01:04 PM

I'm kind of dreading tonight's Mexico - USA friendly at the Azteca.

MrBug708 · 08-15-2012, 03:33 PM

Oh my RVP

07-12-2012, 06:59 PM	#53
sovereignstar v2 hates iowa Join Date: Oct 2010	PSG are in Pot 4. They are fucked. But this move should kick-start the window. Rest assured that Milan will re-invest that money. Edit: I guess there is a chance they can get into Pot 3. Last edited by sovereignstar v2 : 07-12-2012 at 07:03 PM.

07-12-2012, 07:08 PM	#55
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	yeah, Dortmund screwed up by not making it out of the group stage of the Europa League 2 years ago to collect some points (they literally don´t have any, they weren´t qualified for europe for a long time before rising up in germany). Heck, even last year in the CL they had a kind draw for a Pot4 team, no way they get another one as easy this year ... __________________ “The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes "Awww!”

07-13-2012, 05:12 PM	#64
MIJB#19 Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Maassluis, Zuid-Holland, Netherlands	It just really isn't fair that Rangers FC falls over, yet (for example) clubs in the primera division with lesser history, whom are years behind on paying the bills and transfer fees and are held alive by local authorities continue to play in the UEFA competitions year after year. Platini, where is your fair play plan that you promised on your election? __________________ * 2005 Golden Scribe winner for best FOF Dynasty about IHOF's Maassluis Merchantmen * Former GM of GEFL's Houston Oilers and WOOF's Curacao Cocktail Last edited by MIJB#19 : 07-13-2012 at 05:15 PM.

07-17-2012, 12:45 PM	#66
Grover Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Lisboa, ME	Sky Sports understands Watford are eyeing a move for Udinese midfielder Almen Abdi. Watford owner Giampaolo Pozzo has helped set up the deal as he is also the owner of Udinese. Anyone else think that this should be illegal? __________________ Come On You Irons! West Ham United \| Philadelphia Flyers \| Cincinnati Bengals \| Kansas City Royals FOFC Greatest Band Draft Runner Up FOFC Movie Remake Draft Winner FOFC Movie Comedy Draft Winner

07-24-2012, 01:58 PM	#67
whomario Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2007	Luxembourgian Club F91 Dudelange just beat Red Bull Salzburg in the CL 2nd qualifying round, first leg 1:0 at home then a 3:4 on the road. One of the biggest shockers i can recall. Sure, it´s just the 2nd qualifying round and no one cares but still Only 2 rounds to go until we´ll cheer for a luxembourgian team in the Champions League ! __________________ “The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes "Awww!” Last edited by whomario : 07-24-2012 at 02:00 PM.

07-12-2012, 06:19 PM	#52
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Milan in money-saving mode...good times.

07-12-2012, 07:06 PM	#54
sovereignstar v2 hates iowa Join Date: Oct 2010	Haha, this is actually a possible UCL Group. Champions of the Big 4 leagues: Real Madrid, City, Juventus, Dortmund

07-12-2012, 08:04 PM	#56
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	I dislike that seeding system, it should just be based on the league coefficients imo. Like Pot A would be England 1-2, Spain 1-2, Italy 1, Germany 1, Portugal 1, France 1 or something. Maybe only the first two groups could be like this due to all the various playoffs needed to finalize the groups, but it's dumb having a team like Dortmund in Pot 4.

07-13-2012, 12:43 AM	#57
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Sporting KC gets their shot at their first US Open Cup in 8 years. Should be a great environment at Livestrong Park for that game. May have to grab some tickets.

07-13-2012, 09:36 AM	#58
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Rangers are dropped down to the Third (4th) Division of Scotland. Can't imagine many players are going to be sticking around for this if they can help it. BBC Sport - Rangers latest

07-13-2012, 10:25 AM	#59
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Sounds like the SPL are going to use to this as their advantage and try to create an SPL2 around Rangers which would essentially kill off the other divisions and make the rest of the SFL semi-pro or amateur. So much greed in soccer, its getting really hard to follow. Rangers have the support and the backers to get promoted back to SPL in 3 years no matter where they start, but they'd rather blow the whole system up and the SPL will roll over and let them do it. What a great advert for financial responsibility and living within your means. Think FIFA will step into this one, like fuck they will...

07-13-2012, 02:49 PM	#63
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	I'd rather that than a concept of an SPL2 that would finally kill off the SFL, although barely. I've always preferred Rangers to Celtic but if they got themselves in this mess, they should start where anyone else would start and get themselves out of it

07-31-2012, 02:59 PM	#70
bigdawg2003 High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Austin, Texas, USA	Some friends and I are looking to play fantasy EPL this season. Is there anywhere that does it like fantasy NFL where you draft players exclusively to one team? All the major sites do it salary cap-style where you get 100 million euros to build a team. __________________ I didn't even know Elvis was from Memphis. I thought he was from Tennessee.

07-31-2012, 06:48 PM	#73
Ryan S Quarterback Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: London, England	While I remember (and I will probably create a thread in a few days), the Fantasy Premier League site is active again and I have created a new FOFC league. Fantasy Premier League - The official fantasy football game of the Barclays Premier League Invite code - 173850-50573

08-08-2012, 08:37 PM	#74
sovereignstar v2 hates iowa Join Date: Oct 2010	Paging Mr. Platini, paging Mr. Platini. PSG are ruining football. Last edited by sovereignstar v2 : 08-08-2012 at 08:45 PM.

08-09-2012, 01:11 PM	#75
Mizzou B-ball fan General Manager Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO	Sporting KC picked up the Cup last night! Amazing finish with how the PK's went down. KC coach was on the radio today talking about how the PK scouting work they did in advance with the KC goalie paid off. The KC goalkeeper actually told one of the PK takers before his kick 'I know where you're going' with a smile. Totally psyched out the player and he kicked it right over the bar. Last edited by Mizzou B-ball fan : 08-09-2012 at 01:12 PM.

08-09-2012, 01:50 PM	#76
Grover Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Lisboa, ME	£15m is way too much for Joe Allen, Liverpool. __________________ Come On You Irons! West Ham United \| Philadelphia Flyers \| Cincinnati Bengals \| Kansas City Royals FOFC Greatest Band Draft Runner Up FOFC Movie Remake Draft Winner FOFC Movie Comedy Draft Winner

08-09-2012, 07:02 PM	#80
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Technically he agreed not to make the first approach. Also pretty sure the Jacks are happy with 15m for Allen. Laudrup has a whole host of bargains he wants to bring in

08-10-2012, 12:38 PM	#81
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	So, Juventus coach is out till next season for involvement in match fixing.. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

08-12-2012, 08:31 AM	#83
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Am I the only one who is shocked that the Community Shield is today? Man, just kinda snuck up on me. __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

08-12-2012, 10:01 AM	#85
bigdawg2003 High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Austin, Texas, USA	Anytime you can pay Everton 20 mil for a midfielder who missed most of last season with an injury, you gotta do it. Was hoping to make it through the transfer period without any big sales, but Rodwell isn't worth 20 mil. __________________ I didn't even know Elvis was from Memphis. I thought he was from Tennessee.

08-12-2012, 11:31 AM	#91
Grover Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Lisboa, ME	South Korean Soccer Player Did Not Receive His Medal Because Of Politics __________________ Come On You Irons! West Ham United \| Philadelphia Flyers \| Cincinnati Bengals \| Kansas City Royals FOFC Greatest Band Draft Runner Up FOFC Movie Remake Draft Winner FOFC Movie Comedy Draft Winner

08-12-2012, 11:41 AM	#92
Critch lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Herndon, VA	Good to have proper games pretty much back, the long bleak summer of no-soccer since the Euros finished is over. Thought Man City looked good, they'll either win the league or whoever finishes above them will. Chelsea didnt look great, I'm going for di Matteo out before the end of the season and Chelsea lucky to scrape 4th. And ESPN3 football is worth watching, Jozy Altidore has just scored 2 great goals in 2 minutes for AZ against Ajax. Last edited by Critch : 08-12-2012 at 11:41 AM.

08-12-2012, 06:38 PM	#93
sovereignstar v2 hates iowa Join Date: Oct 2010	Oh Hazard.

08-12-2012, 07:27 PM	#95
sovereignstar v2 hates iowa Join Date: Oct 2010	Most sources are reporting that Rodwell was sold for 12m (up to 15 million) by the way. So 8 million less than what Liverpool payed Villa for Stewart Downing. Last edited by sovereignstar v2 : 08-12-2012 at 07:29 PM.

08-15-2012, 01:04 PM	#99
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	I'm kind of dreading tonight's Mexico - USA friendly at the Azteca. Last edited by Big Fo : 08-15-2012 at 01:05 PM.

08-15-2012, 03:33 PM	#100
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Oh my RVP

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