Werewolf XXXIII: To Crown a King 2 (Game Over) - Page 2

LoneStarGirl · 09-25-2006, 05:28 PM

This game seems like a lot of fun, I am ready for it to start.

Barkeep49 · 09-25-2006, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

This game seems like a lot of fun, I am ready for it to start.

Writing up role descriptions now (as I needed a final number before figuring out what the roles would be). Should get a PM with the role in the hour (at the latest).

Barkeep49 · 09-25-2006, 06:56 PM

Your nation has suffered from years of incompetent rule. What was once a proud nation is now merely a shadow of its former self. A few years ago the latest nincompoop died. This led to a period of Civil War. Now, however, the country is coming out of the Civil War. This Civil War was triggered by the revelation that some of the Nobles of the land, have, since birth, been trained as agents of your greatest rival nation. It was agreed that the leading Nobles of the land would assemble and attempt to root out these evil influences. Whichever group did the best job would win the right to crown one of its own King.

Of course the assassins are not going to be content to just sit still. They have no love of this nation and would love to see it destroyed. It is with that you all cautiously come together. Starting tomorrow you will vote. For now you settle in for what will hopefully NOT be a long haul.

We are now in Night 0. I indicated in your PM if you had an action to perform. Please feel free to ask questions either here or privately, that you might have. Also note that I have made a few changes to the rules. This includes changing the probability that the Assassins will discover a faction’s messages (from 1/10 to 1/12) and giving the Faction Leaders 12 words instead of 15. I have also tweaked the points ever so slightly. Good luck to both sides.

bulletsponge · 09-25-2006, 07:18 PM

this game looks complicated

Barkeep49 · 09-25-2006, 07:27 PM

Well it's not a vanilla game, but at least in the world of BK games this one is a simple game. Especially because strategies that generally serve a side well, still work in this setup. It's just that there are a few more angles to consider that can also help a team out.

Abe Sargent · 09-25-2006, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

this game looks complicated

All revealed roles games look complex at first, but they play much more simply. Except for tanglewood's.

bulletsponge · 09-25-2006, 08:06 PM

ok ill be the first to say it, im not an

. im a lord

bulletsponge · 09-25-2006, 08:07 PM

dola. or did i get that backwards

bulletsponge · 09-25-2006, 08:07 PM

Vote Chubby for jail

hoopsguy · 09-25-2006, 08:31 PM

Time to go read up on the rules - played the first one but it has been awhile and I was night killed pretty early in that one.

st.cronin · 09-25-2006, 08:33 PM

I remember being totally baffled by the first game, but I think I actually ended up on the winning team. So, I'm going to not even try to understand the rules, and hope for the same outcome!

kingfc22 · 09-25-2006, 09:00 PM

Noble checking in. Going to have to read the rules a few times to get a grasp of things.

hoopsguy · 09-25-2006, 09:04 PM

OK, so we are playing a multifaction game that includes an assassin faction. There is probably not one assassin to start the game, but I can't see there being too many given the inclusion of a fast-talking noble for each faction.

So I'm guessing we start with two assassins, three max. But the more factions there are, the more likely we are to have a lower number of assassins.

Of course, if there is a big delta between the assassin "number" and the noble "number" for end game, then I would have to revisit this assumption.

hoopsguy · 09-25-2006, 09:05 PM

If Bullet did not already have a vote on Chubby I would probably go in that direction for the (off-base) relentless harassment last game. But I'm not looking to start bandwagons in the first hour of the game.

Fouts · 09-25-2006, 09:08 PM

hoops, how many factions do you think we start with 19 players? I'm guessing 4 or 5.

hoopsguy · 09-25-2006, 09:31 PM

There were three in the last game, with 5 players (going from memory) on each faction.

19 players:
4 factions, 4 per team?
3 assassins?

5 factions, 3 per team?
4 assassins? Seems like high starting number given the number of fast talkers, even if it is capped at only 2 before the assassins kill them.

Of course, there is a possibility that there are not an even number of people on each faction - in that case I would assume that factions with fewer members have a higher % of roles.

Fouts · 09-25-2006, 09:55 PM

Ok, 3 factions of 5, plus 4 assassins sounds right, if the game is similar to the last one.

Fouts · 09-25-2006, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bulletsponge

Vote Chubby for jail

I think we are still on Night 0.

bulletsponge · 09-25-2006, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fouts

I think we are still on Night 0.

your never too early to get chubby

Bek · 09-25-2006, 10:23 PM

hey just chekcing in....seems a little complicated but like anxiety said im sure it will become easier as I play longer...looking forward to play

BrianD · 09-25-2006, 10:31 PM

I'll be interested to see how this game goes. I have no clue how the strategy will work in this game, but it should be fu.

BrianD · 09-25-2006, 10:32 PM

*fun.

Lorena · 09-25-2006, 10:35 PM

It does seem a little complicated but I'm glad several of you have played this game before and I'll take your lead.

I'll have to re-read the rules once again after the football game.

Blade6119 · 09-25-2006, 10:41 PM

It really does get easier as the game goes on. There will also be a plethora of information this time around. Good luck everyone, except the bad guys. Booo bad guys

Mr. Wednesday · 09-25-2006, 10:49 PM

Checking in, role received.

(I'm not going to go on with the whole "I'm a villager" bit... always seems to cause endless debates about whether there was anything behind the "oversight" of saying "villager" instead of "noble"...)

WVUFAN · 09-25-2006, 11:03 PM

Checking in. Role Received.

LoneStarGirl · 09-25-2006, 11:27 PM

Just saying hi, got my role.

Greyroofoo · 09-25-2006, 11:34 PM

so when does the night end?

Mr. Wednesday · 09-25-2006, 11:38 PM

Typ. tomorrow morning. Have the actual deadlines been determined?

ntndeacon · 09-26-2006, 12:37 AM

I think night actions end at 7:30 Am eastern and voting has to be done by 9 pm eastern

Chief Rum · 09-26-2006, 02:28 AM

I have reason to believe there are a lot of factions, with smaller numbers of players per faction. But I wouldn't be surprised if not every faction has a Fast Talking Noble, and that the assassins have as many members as any of the other individual factions.

This is all guesswork, though. I did not play in the first TCAK.

Poli · 09-26-2006, 04:25 AM

Word.

Barkeep49 · 09-26-2006, 07:56 AM

The day begins. You face your first test. Who will you jail today? With 18 others to chose from the choice will no doubt be difficult. The thought of possibly doing nothing strikes you, but you remember that you must vote to jail someone today. By 9:30 Eastern time someone at the conclave will have lost their freedom.

Day 1 has begun.

Fouts · 09-26-2006, 08:17 AM

Well, I won't be on much today as I have class tonight. Every Tuesday, right on schedule. I will have a couple hours later this afternoon to catch up and cast a vote.

hoopsguy · 09-26-2006, 08:26 AM

Sounds like Rum and Fouts are on the other ends of the spectrum in terms of faction size/numbers. Eventually (hopefully after the "winning numbers" are posted?) we should have an answer to this one. Will be a nice feeling after stumbling around for nine days last game ...

Lathum · 09-26-2006, 08:48 AM

checking in. I may be gone most of the day and am still trying to grasp the rules if I am quiet. I may vote Saldana for jail just so he isn't killed night one

BrianD · 09-26-2006, 09:58 AM

Is anyone around yet? This thread seems rather quiet for a first day...

Abe Sargent · 09-26-2006, 10:07 AM

So, Barkeep, let me see if I get this straight. Once you jail someone, they are in to stay? Unless released by the bribe or assasins?

Mr. Wednesday · 09-26-2006, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianD

Is anyone around yet? This thread seems rather quiet for a first day...

Very quiet. Strange, that.

Mr. Wednesday · 09-26-2006, 11:18 AM

Now, if I were playing like ardent, I'd bust out random.org and draw lots to decide who to vote for.

I don't think I'll go that far, but it's not going to be much better than that.

Mr. Wednesday · 09-26-2006, 11:19 AM

Double dola, which is a commentary on how effective day 1 voting usually is, not on my methods for deciding who to vote for.

hoopsguy · 09-26-2006, 11:39 AM

Mr. W, everyone knows that Ardent votes for Schmidty on Day 1

For me, I think that the first part of the day will be about trying to pick up on factions. So I'm not in a rush to get a vote out there until I've got a little bit more information, even if it is probably fun to fire off the "vendetta vote" to get a game rolling.

Lorena · 09-26-2006, 11:53 AM

Strange, I thought more people would sign up for Barkeep's game, is 19 a relatively low number for these games?

Alan T · 09-26-2006, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dodgerchick

Strange, I thought more people would sign up for Barkeep's game, is 19 a relatively low number for these games?

I definitly would have signed up. I love Barkeep's games. Just leaving on Friday for 2 weeks. (Even though based on everyone's low opinion of me from last game, I doubt I would live that long anyways had I played)

RealDeal · 09-26-2006, 12:02 PM

villager checking in.

hoopsguy · 09-26-2006, 12:04 PM

Dodgerchick, I think 19 is about average for one of these games as of late. The older games usually only had 12-15 people, while some of the bigger ones get up around 25.

Lorena · 09-26-2006, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T

I definitly would have signed up. I love Barkeep's games. Just leaving on Friday for 2 weeks. (Even though based on everyone's low opinion of me from last game, I doubt I would live that long anyways had I played)

Nah, you got us good. I wouldn't have guessed you were evil in that game. If it's any consolation, had you participated in this game, I wouldn't have voted for you... on the first night

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Dodgerchick, I think 19 is about average for one of these games as of late. The older games usually only had 12-15 people, while some of the bigger ones get up around 25.

Ahh... okay. I was curious because the 2 games I signed up for had over 20.

Blade6119 · 09-26-2006, 01:35 PM

I wont be around for another 4-5 hours...just had a second in between classes to say hello, so i shall.

Hello

Off to accounting, yay

saldana · 09-26-2006, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

checking in. I may be gone most of the day and am still trying to grasp the rules if I am quiet. I may vote Saldana for jail just so he isn't killed night one

maybe you should check the player list first, dipshit.

hoopsguy · 09-26-2006, 01:52 PM

OK, lets get this party started

VOTE JAIL BLADE6119

09-25-2006, 08:33 PM	#61
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I remember being totally baffled by the first game, but I think I actually ended up on the winning team. So, I'm going to not even try to understand the rules, and hope for the same outcome! __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

09-25-2006, 09:00 PM	#62
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Noble checking in. Going to have to read the rules a few times to get a grasp of things. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

09-25-2006, 10:41 PM	#74
Blade6119 Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona	It really does get easier as the game goes on. There will also be a plethora of information this time around. Good luck everyone, except the bad guys. Booo bad guys __________________ *Underachievement* The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower. *Despair* It's always darkest just before it goes pitch black. *Demotivation* Sometimes the best solution to morale problems is just to fire all of the unhappy people. http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

09-25-2006, 10:49 PM	#75
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	Checking in, role received. (I'm not going to go on with the whole "I'm a villager" bit... always seems to cause endless debates about whether there was anything behind the "oversight" of saying "villager" instead of "noble"...) __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

09-25-2006, 11:03 PM	#76
WVUFAN College Starter Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Huntington, WV	Checking in. Role Received. __________________

09-25-2006, 06:56 PM	#53
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Your nation has suffered from years of incompetent rule. What was once a proud nation is now merely a shadow of its former self. A few years ago the latest nincompoop died. This led to a period of Civil War. Now, however, the country is coming out of the Civil War. This Civil War was triggered by the revelation that some of the Nobles of the land, have, since birth, been trained as agents of your greatest rival nation. It was agreed that the leading Nobles of the land would assemble and attempt to root out these evil influences. Whichever group did the best job would win the right to crown one of its own King. Of course the assassins are not going to be content to just sit still. They have no love of this nation and would love to see it destroyed. It is with that you all cautiously come together. Starting tomorrow you will vote. For now you settle in for what will hopefully NOT be a long haul. We are now in Night 0. I indicated in your PM if you had an action to perform. Please feel free to ask questions either here or privately, that you might have. Also note that I have made a few changes to the rules. This includes changing the probability that the Assassins will discover a faction’s messages (from 1/10 to 1/12) and giving the Faction Leaders 12 words instead of 15. I have also tweaked the points ever so slightly. Good luck to both sides.

09-25-2006, 07:18 PM	#54
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	this game looks complicated

09-25-2006, 07:27 PM	#55
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Well it's not a vanilla game, but at least in the world of BK games this one is a simple game. Especially because strategies that generally serve a side well, still work in this setup. It's just that there are a few more angles to consider that can also help a team out.

09-25-2006, 08:06 PM	#57
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	ok ill be the first to say it, im not an . im a lord

09-25-2006, 08:07 PM	#58
bulletsponge Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TX	dola. or did i get that backwards

09-25-2006, 08:31 PM	#60
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Time to go read up on the rules - played the first one but it has been awhile and I was night killed pretty early in that one.

09-25-2006, 09:04 PM	#63
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	OK, so we are playing a multifaction game that includes an assassin faction. There is probably not one assassin to start the game, but I can't see there being too many given the inclusion of a fast-talking noble for each faction. So I'm guessing we start with two assassins, three max. But the more factions there are, the more likely we are to have a lower number of assassins. Of course, if there is a big delta between the assassin "number" and the noble "number" for end game, then I would have to revisit this assumption.

09-25-2006, 09:05 PM	#64
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	If Bullet did not already have a vote on Chubby I would probably go in that direction for the (off-base) relentless harassment last game. But I'm not looking to start bandwagons in the first hour of the game.

09-25-2006, 09:08 PM	#65
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	hoops, how many factions do you think we start with 19 players? I'm guessing 4 or 5.

09-25-2006, 09:31 PM	#66
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	There were three in the last game, with 5 players (going from memory) on each faction. 19 players: 4 factions, 4 per team? 3 assassins? 5 factions, 3 per team? 4 assassins? Seems like high starting number given the number of fast talkers, even if it is capped at only 2 before the assassins kill them. Of course, there is a possibility that there are not an even number of people on each faction - in that case I would assume that factions with fewer members have a higher % of roles.

09-25-2006, 09:55 PM	#67
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Ok, 3 factions of 5, plus 4 assassins sounds right, if the game is similar to the last one.

09-25-2006, 10:23 PM	#70
Bek High School JV Join Date: Aug 2005	hey just chekcing in....seems a little complicated but like anxiety said im sure it will become easier as I play longer...looking forward to play

09-25-2006, 10:31 PM	#71
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I'll be interested to see how this game goes. I have no clue how the strategy will work in this game, but it should be fu.

09-25-2006, 10:32 PM	#72
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	*fun.

09-25-2006, 10:35 PM	#73
Lorena Unregistered Join Date: May 2004	It does seem a little complicated but I'm glad several of you have played this game before and I'll take your lead. I'll have to re-read the rules once again after the football game.

09-25-2006, 11:27 PM	#77
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	Just saying hi, got my role.

09-25-2006, 11:34 PM	#78
Greyroofoo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Alabama	so when does the night end?

09-25-2006, 11:38 PM	#79
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	Typ. tomorrow morning. Have the actual deadlines been determined? __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

09-26-2006, 12:37 AM	#80
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	I think night actions end at 7:30 Am eastern and voting has to be done by 9 pm eastern

09-26-2006, 02:28 AM	#81
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	I have reason to believe there are a lot of factions, with smaller numbers of players per faction. But I wouldn't be surprised if not every faction has a Fast Talking Noble, and that the assassins have as many members as any of the other individual factions. This is all guesswork, though. I did not play in the first TCAK. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

09-26-2006, 04:25 AM	#82
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Word. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

09-26-2006, 07:56 AM	#83
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	The day begins. You face your first test. Who will you jail today? With 18 others to chose from the choice will no doubt be difficult. The thought of possibly doing nothing strikes you, but you remember that you must vote to jail someone today. By 9:30 Eastern time someone at the conclave will have lost their freedom. Day 1 has begun.

09-26-2006, 08:17 AM	#84
Fouts College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: California	Well, I won't be on much today as I have class tonight. Every Tuesday, right on schedule. I will have a couple hours later this afternoon to catch up and cast a vote.

09-26-2006, 08:26 AM	#85
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Sounds like Rum and Fouts are on the other ends of the spectrum in terms of faction size/numbers. Eventually (hopefully after the "winning numbers" are posted?) we should have an answer to this one. Will be a nice feeling after stumbling around for nine days last game ...

09-26-2006, 08:48 AM	#86
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	checking in. I may be gone most of the day and am still trying to grasp the rules if I am quiet. I may vote Saldana for jail just so he isn't killed night one

09-26-2006, 09:58 AM	#87
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	Is anyone around yet? This thread seems rather quiet for a first day...

09-26-2006, 10:07 AM	#88
Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	So, Barkeep, let me see if I get this straight. Once you jail someone, they are in to stay? Unless released by the bribe or assasins? __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

09-26-2006, 11:18 AM	#90
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	Now, if I were playing like ardent, I'd bust out random.org and draw lots to decide who to vote for. I don't think I'll go that far, but it's not going to be much better than that. __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

09-26-2006, 11:19 AM	#91
Mr. Wednesday Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Bend, IN	Double dola, which is a commentary on how effective day 1 voting usually is, not on my methods for deciding who to vote for. __________________ Hattrick - Brays Bayou FC (70854) / USA III.4 Hockey Arena - Houston Aeros / USA II.1 Thanks to my FOFC Hattrick supporters - Blackout, Brillig, kingfc22, RPI-fan, Rich1033, antbacker, One_to7, ur_land, KevinNU7, and TonyR (PM me if you support me and I've missed you)

09-26-2006, 11:39 AM	#92
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Mr. W, everyone knows that Ardent votes for Schmidty on Day 1 For me, I think that the first part of the day will be about trying to pick up on factions. So I'm not in a rush to get a vote out there until I've got a little bit more information, even if it is probably fun to fire off the "vendetta vote" to get a game rolling.