Cartalk Puzzler - Page 2

Ksyrup · 05-14-2007, 02:43 PM

But the mystery is why 1951 would be such a definitive date for the last person to have that listed on their death certificate (if we're reading that part of the puzzle correctly)?

BrianD · 05-14-2007, 02:48 PM

I'd like to think we could find that date somewhere if my answer was right. Clearly that year has to mean something.

DaddyTorgo · 05-14-2007, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

But the mystery is why 1951 would be such a definitive date for the last person to have that listed on their death certificate (if we're reading that part of the puzzle correctly)?

because it's a form of anthrax right? maybe it got reclassified because of that (dunno when anthrax was "discovered" in that sense). Or maybe no one has caught it since then? I'm at work so i havn't checked the wiki...

Ksyrup · 05-14-2007, 03:12 PM

We've been looking for that connection and can't find it. If there is a connecting date, it's not easily found or obvious.

JediKooter · 05-14-2007, 03:26 PM

From Wiki: "The Ames strain is extremely dangerous, though not quite as virulent as the Vollum strain which was successfully tested as a biological weapon during the Second World War. The Vollum (also incorrectly referred to as Vellum) strain was isolated in 1935 from a cow in Oxfordshire, UK. This is the same strain that was used during the Gruinard bioweapons trials. A variation of Vollum known as "Vollum 1B" was used during the 1960s in the US and UK bioweapon programs. Vollum 1B was isolated from William A. Boyles, a 46 year old USAMRIID scientist who died in 1951 after being accidentally infected with the Vollum strain. The Sterne strain, named after a South African researcher, is an attenuated strain used as a vaccine."

The only 1951 connection that I have seen so far.

Castlerock · 05-14-2007, 03:28 PM

http://www.ilcusa.org/_lib/pdf/diedofoldage.pdf
(Page 5)

Ksyrup · 05-14-2007, 03:28 PM

Did Boyles enjoy knitting socks and cross-dressing?

Ksyrup · 05-14-2007, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Castlerock

http://www.ilcusa.org/_lib/pdf/diedofoldage.pdf
(Page 5)

There you go!

You know, I did all sorts of searches, except for "die old age 1951." What a moran!

JediKooter · 05-14-2007, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

There you go!

You know, I did all sorts of searches, except for "die old age 1951." What a moran!

Hey!! That's what I said, though my reasoning was wrong.

Well, actually albionmoonlight said it first...

Ksyrup · 05-14-2007, 03:46 PM

Actually, it was st. cronin.

albionmoonlight · 05-14-2007, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Castlerock

http://www.ilcusa.org/_lib/pdf/diedofoldage.pdf
(Page 5)

Great

albionmoonlight · 05-14-2007, 03:47 PM

I was totally wrong, apparently, about the idea that one national decree could eliminate a cause of death.

Who knew.

JediKooter · 05-14-2007, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ksyrup

Actually, it was st. cronin.

I stand corrected. That's what I get for not scrolling all the way back.

BrianD · 05-14-2007, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Castlerock

http://www.ilcusa.org/_lib/pdf/diedofoldage.pdf
(Page 5)

I don't like this answer. It makes me totally and completely wrong. Where is the fun in that?

Ksyrup · 05-14-2007, 03:55 PM

I liked yours better. More creative and used the facts of the puzzle as clues instead of the story behind a simple answer.

KWhit · 05-14-2007, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Castlerock

http://www.ilcusa.org/_lib/pdf/diedofoldage.pdf
(Page 5)

Cool. Nice find.

05-14-2007, 03:12 PM	#54
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	We've been looking for that connection and can't find it. If there is a connecting date, it's not easily found or obvious. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

05-14-2007, 03:26 PM	#55
JediKooter Coordinator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Diego via Sausalito via San Jose via San Diego	From Wiki: "The Ames strain is extremely dangerous, though not quite as virulent as the Vollum strain which was successfully tested as a biological weapon during the Second World War. The Vollum (also incorrectly referred to as Vellum) strain was isolated in 1935 from a cow in Oxfordshire, UK. This is the same strain that was used during the Gruinard bioweapons trials. A variation of Vollum known as "Vollum 1B" was used during the 1960s in the US and UK bioweapon programs. Vollum 1B was isolated from William A. Boyles, a 46 year old USAMRIID scientist who died in 1951 after being accidentally infected with the Vollum strain. The Sterne strain, named after a South African researcher, is an attenuated strain used as a vaccine." The only 1951 connection that I have seen so far. __________________ I'm no longer a Chargers fan, they are dead to me Coming this summer to a movie theater near you: The Adventures of Jedikooter: Part 4

05-14-2007, 03:28 PM	#56
Castlerock High School Varsity Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Boston, Ma	http://www.ilcusa.org/_lib/pdf/diedofoldage.pdf (Page 5) Last edited by Castlerock : 05-14-2007 at 03:29 PM.

05-14-2007, 03:28 PM	#57
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Did Boyles enjoy knitting socks and cross-dressing? __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

05-14-2007, 03:46 PM	#60
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	Actually, it was st. cronin. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

05-14-2007, 02:48 PM	#52
BrianD Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Appleton, WI	I'd like to think we could find that date somewhere if my answer was right. Clearly that year has to mean something.

05-14-2007, 03:47 PM	#62
albionmoonlight Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Carolina	I was totally wrong, apparently, about the idea that one national decree could eliminate a cause of death. Who knew.

05-14-2007, 03:55 PM	#65
Ksyrup This guy has posted so much, his fingers are about to fall off. Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: In Absentia	I liked yours better. More creative and used the facts of the puzzle as clues instead of the story behind a simple answer. __________________ M's pitcher Miguel Batista: "Now, I feel like I've had everything. I've talked pitching with Sandy Koufax, had Kenny G play for me. Maybe if I could have an interview with God, then I'd be served. I'd be complete."

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