College Football Official Week 7 Thread

[CrescentMoonie]

Just when it looked like Tulsa might knock off Houston.

[tarcone]

Arkansas driving for the win.

[Swaggs]

I wonder how high Ole Miss will climb in the polls if they manage to hold on and not win again.

[tarcone]

No chance. Arkansas for the win.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by tarcone

No chance. Arkansas for the win.

Pretty good game for the Razorbacks. Important one after losing to A&M and Alabama. When we can run the ball, we do well.

I was surprised we stayed in the top 25 after the 2 losses but after seeing this game, yeah I think we are a pretty good team e.g. top 15-25

[tarcone]

Wiscy-OSU in overtime

[Edward64]

This thread is dead ... where is everyone?

[Buccaneer]

Originally Posted by Edward64

This thread is dead ... where is everyone?

Look in the thread above (or below) depending on timestamp. A gaggle of lefties are beating on a lone righty as if that's a more fun sport than college football.

[NobodyHere]

I'm sitting out the college anthem or something.

Music is great

[hollmt]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Look in the thread above (or below) depending on timestamp. A gaggle of lefties are beating on a lone righty as if that's a more fun sport than college football.

el oh el.

[hollmt]

Damn good game OSU/WISC.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

I wonder how high Ole Miss will climb in the polls if they manage to hold on and not win again.

What do you think, Holgorsen back or no? Hearing mixed stuff.

[Bobble]

Great game, Wiscy. That's a great program.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by tarcone

HUGE pick. GO WISCY

Everything's coming up tarcone!

[lungs]

What a game, a shame the Badgers didn't pull it out. Not quite there yet, but I like where this team is headed under Chryst.

[cuervo72]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

Look in the thread above (or below) depending on timestamp. A gaggle of lefties are beating on a lone righty as if that's a more fun sport than college football.

Had the OSU/Wisky game on. Probably wanted Wisky to win, but didn't really care. I mean, whatever - the outcome doesn't really affect me any. Not really much to say or have an opinion about it.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Ohio State saves poll voters from having to figure out who's #2.
Woulda been tough to elevate Clemson after today I think.

[CrescentMoonie]

Very impressive game from Wisconsin. OSU just has too much raw talent for them at the moment.

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Atocep

What do you think, Holgorsen back or no? Hearing mixed stuff.

I think he wants to stay and have heard so from (non-message board) folks in the know. His son is up here and playing QB for Morgantown High and is not a senior this season. I think Gee likes him, but I'm not so sure that Lyons does.

My guess is that we end up with 9 or 10 wins and he re-signs. I think if we somehow keep winning and finish in the top 10 and/or win the B12, another desperate program may be willing to overpay, and I don't think Lyons will do that.

[MrBug708]

RichRod could be had for cheap..

[tarcone]

Chryst has done a heck of a job at Wiscy. This was supposed to be a rebuild. And they have taken the best of the conference to the brink.

Im afraid of what they will do to Iowa.

Oh crap, next week I will find out.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

I think he wants to stay and have heard so from (non-message board) folks in the know. His son is up here and playing QB for Morgantown High and is not a senior this season. I think Gee likes him, but I'm not so sure that Lyons does.

My guess is that we end up with 9 or 10 wins and he re-signs. I think if we somehow keep winning and finish in the top 10 and/or win the B12, another desperate program may be willing to overpay, and I don't think Lyons will do that.

I've heard there's a pretty big rift between him and Lyons. I like Dana and hope they're able to work something out. He continues to improve every year and we could do far, far worse with a new hire. The current staff is excellent and his assistant hiring has been strong after the initial staff.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

RichRod could be had for cheap..

That's something that's worried me in the past. I really feared Lyons doing something stupid after the KState loss last year and hiring Rich would have fallen into that category.

I do think Rich is a solid coach, but his staff is terrible and his assistant hires have always been a mixed bag. I'd just rather not deal with the circus.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Purdue Boilermakers fire coach Darrell Hazell after 9-33 mark

[Brian Swartz]

I think teams like Louisville were the real losers this weekend. If Clemson and Ohio State had lost like they very easily could have, a lot of doors would have opened potentially.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by Marmel

If only for a day, Cuse football is a thing!
Dino putting the ACC on notice.

Babers really has his team's attention. Yesterday was impressive.
That lockeroom video was very, very telling to me in two ways.
1) that team has gelled and si having fun
2) I understand the recruiting struggles more, now.

[JonInMiddleGA]

One of the better -- if at times brutal -- assessments of the current situation at UGA I've read.

Opinion: Smart was right the first time | AccessWDUN.com

edit to add: to summarize, "it's the (lack of) talent, stupid"

[Edward64]

Razorbacks jump from 22 to 17 in latest AP.

8 SEC teams in top 25 but only Alabama and A&M in top 10 (the only 2 losses AR had). Looking forward to meeting AU next.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

One of the better -- if at times brutal -- assessments of the current situation at UGA I've read.

Opinion: Smart was right the first time | AccessWDUN.com

edit to add: to summarize, "it's the (lack of) talent, stupid"

This is one of those catch 22s for Smart.
If he says the roster lacks talent, yet Richt won more than he has with those untalented players, he is saying the precious staff are better coaches. If they have talent then this staff isn't coaching them properly.

I will just say this, I think this hire ends gloriously for the bulldogs. I'm just not sure if it's 2-10 or 3-9 year 3.

[Breeze]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Babers really has his team's attention. Yesterday was impressive.
That lockeroom video was very, very telling to me in two ways.
1) that team has gelled and si having fun
2) I understand the recruiting struggles more, now.

seriously...my high school locker room from the late 80s was much nicer than that one...

[bob]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

I will just say this, I think this hire ends gloriously for the bulldogs. I'm just not sure if it's 2-10 or 3-9 year 3.

So you think Smart was a poor hire?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

This is one of those catch 22s for Smart.
If he says the roster lacks talent, yet Richt won more than he has with those untalented players, he is saying the precious staff are better coaches. If they have talent then this staff isn't coaching them properly.

I think he's kinda covered here on that though. The freshman QB -- ANY freshman QB -- provides a good bit of cover for the record at the moment.

Plus, the past three bowls were TaxSlayer, Belk, and Gator (in reverse order).
Barring a 5-7, that's similar to where they're likely to end up now anyway.

The problem I've seen -- and was thrilled to have happen frankly -- was that Richt tended to recruit press clippings more than actual players. Maybe those guys all looked legit in person as well as on paper but for whatever reason by the time they hit the field, most underachieved.

To improve the situation, Smart first has to find actual ballers. He doesn't have many of those to work with right now best I can tell.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by bob

So you think Smart was a poor hire?

Poor hire?
Too early to tell.

I think it was a very, very risky hire. It wasn't a hire I'd make. I'll say that. To me at a school like UGA its hard to hire a 1st time head coach. Even harder when he was a D coordinator on a Saban team. Meaning he has never been a real coordinator. Even harder when you hear that Tom Herman WANTED the job and UGA wouldn't call him back.

I'll add this. When Smart was announced there was noted excitement in Clemson. During Clemson's runs of success historically it has came on the back of GA athletes carrying a large % of the load. When UGA is elite it is bad for Clemson and makes their recruiting harder. In the last 10 years 3 teams have played for the national championship with GA high school QBs. (Newton, Marshall and Watson) and in all 3 cases UGA was late to the recruiting party or never offered those kids as a QB at all. The case could be made that the state of GA is home to the best dual threat QBs in the country in recent memory. For UGA to insist on a pro-style system in the face of this fact...well it is encouraging to your competition. Let's put it that way.

I expect Smart to be a flop. I did before he was hired and I've seen nothing to change that. If this shit show on offense continues and drives Trevor Lawrence away, like it looks like is about to happen, the natives will take note.

Folks who have never lived around UGA probably dont realize just HOW self aggrandizing that fan base is. One of my few Dawg friends (who is also a significant donor there) made the comment when Smart was hired, "I just dont understand. If we wanted a Saban like coach why didnt we just go hire Saban. And dont even start with me about that you aint pulling Saban away from Bama BS. When UGA calls EVERYONE listens" He is not unusual amongst their older fan base, and I'm sure JiMGa will attest to that.

The record that led to Richt's demise:
10-4
12-2
8-5
10-3 (FIRED)
4-3

Their national recruiting rankings (per Rivals)over that time:
12
12
7
6
11 (FIRED)


Really dont bear out Smart's assertion that they lack talent.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by Breeze

seriously...my high school locker room from the late 80s was much nicer than that one...

My son is a 10th grader and has been inside 12-15 college lockrooms so far on recruiting trips/visits etc. So I think he is probably fairly typical of the mindset of the folks a college is recruiting today. That video was on ESPN Sunday Morning College Football yesterday and he ad I were watching and he said, "Dad where did Syracuse play yesterday."
Home
"Really? Thats there home locker room? Our middle school lockerroom was nicer and you know how old it is. That is rough. I bet they dont take recruits to the lockerroom to take jersey shots" (For clarity my son's middle school was the high school when I graduated (was built in 64)and is largely unchanged since new.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

He is not unusual amongst their older fan base, and I'm sure JiMGa will attest to that.

QFT. It is, and has always been, one of the most utterly delusional fan bases in the country. Such accounts for a significant portion of my intense hatred for them.

The record that led to Richt's demise:
10-4
12-2
8-5
10-3 (FIRED)
4-3

Their national recruiting rankings (per Rivals)over that time:
12
12
7
6
11 (FIRED)
Really dont bear out Smart's assertion that they lack talent.

Now on this point we disagree. I've always felt that Richt -- in addition to be a horrible game day coach that had a knack for hiring bad game day staff -- was one of the very worst in the business at separating reality from recruiting rankings.

Not every 4/5 star guy is an actual player. We all know that. He seemed to have a peculiar knack for finding & signing guys who failed to live up to their clippings, specifically ones who did so for what often appeared to be lack of effort/heart/or even interest.

And, as often happens with long term coaches, the trend looked decidedly downward. Despite the record, despite the recruiting rankings, the last three bowls were TaxSlayer, Belk, and Gator. At Georgia (and to be fair, several other places), that's going to get you fired.

[bob]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Folks who have never lived around UGA probably dont realize just HOW self aggrandizing that fan base is.

Trust me, as a GT grad, I get this.

That being said, I pay next to 0 attention to high school football and recruiting (just don't have the time), so your post was enlightening... Thanks.

[ISiddiqui]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Folks who have never lived around UGA probably dont realize just HOW self aggrandizing that fan base is.

I'm not even an SEC (or GA Tech) fan, but I can wholeheartedly agree with this living in Atlanta. You have a few fans who realize what UGA is, but 9/10 of them wonder why they aren't playing for the national championship every year. It's really, really stunning.

[CU Tiger]

And while I hardly ever like anything related to UGA, and completely unrelated to this discussion this excellent piece of prose needs to be shared and read as far and widely as it can. For that reason I am doing my part.

The hurricane winds descended on Columbia last week and did $50 million worth of improvements.

What, you've heard that one? Please understand, I'm in trouble here--it's a Gamecock game. These things are UGLY, unless, say, the air wizard Greyson Lambert is there to set an all-time NCAA record. Other years, not so much.

Sunday wasn't the kind of stirring, operatic victory it's easy to write about.

I've always called Columbia a little taste of New Jersey in the Deep South. It's just kind of there, because it has to be somewhere. The laws of spatial physics require it. The University of South Carolina is a century-plus study of how not to do college football. Begin with the genius who decided to use a chicken as a mascot. Just the image to strike fear in the hearts of, say, the Presbyterian Blue Hose. A flightless barnyard bird whose life is spent functioning as a cheap alarm clock in the morning, peck-fight sporting events for rednecks in the afternoon, and the Colonel's dinner bucket at night (which, of course, is why South Carolina actually loses regularly to Kentucky).

You want more? Not enough chicken-trolling for ya? Well, the idea was to call their stadium the Cock Pit, but we all know it looks more like a cockroach that has expired on your basement floor; those girders thrusting into the air, simulating the lifeless legs. Traditions consist of a "fight song" called "Step to the Rear" which is actually a failed Broadway show tune dating all the way back to 1967. The musical was called "How Now, Dow Jones."

I'm betting you didn't know that. You're welcome.

The lyrics of the "fight song" begin, "Would everyone here kindly step to the rear?" Before and after 1967, South Carolina and its fans have kindly (sometimes unkindly) stepped to the rear more times than any of us can count. Last year's 3-win season offered an opportunity to step to the rear nine times, with the bonus of a Hall of Fame head coach doing so himself mid-season.

A better choice of bird would have been the swan, because Columbia was the swan song for over-the-hill championship coaches ready to curl up on the basement floor of college football, thrusting their clipboards and athletic shoes skyward before heading to that great after-game press conference in the sky. Paul Dietzel, Lou Holtz, and Spurrier all won national championships before stepping to the rear, a rear end that was not a rare end.

And Spurrier was, by every measure, a rear end, surely tops in the chicken pecking order, as well as being one of the great peckers in the game in other ways. Before he arrived on the lowest of the low country fence post to crow the dawning of a new day for Carolina, the chickens averaged about a bowl for every decade or two, about like eclipses but less common than locust plagues. However, there were bowls aplenty under Spurrier, and even one golden appearance in the Dome, though it ended in yet another bucket dinner for Cam Newton (56-17). Awwwwwk! Buck, buck buck.

No champions were available this coach-hiring go-around, but the next best thing was: a guy with "champ" in his name, which at least makes for good bumper stickers. Will Muschamp, or Muschicken, as I'm henceforth deciding he'll be known, has one other good trait. He's long-time buddies with Kirby Smart. And, see, Kirby didn't want to show up his buddy, particularly it being the Lord's Day and all, so he told Jacob Eason to go Easy-On his friend. (See what I did there? Words are fun!)

This is absolutely why Eason went 2 for 57 or something like that, and I defy you to prove otherwise. I win. Only problem was that Nick Chubb laughed when asked to do the same thing.

Recruiting lore says that Chubb made campus visits in Columbia twice, and Spurrier wasn't there to wow him. This was the third time, and Spurrier still wasn't there. Neither was the rushing defense. Or any semblance of an offense. They had all stepped to the rear.

Let the record show that Columbia got off relatively cheaply from Matthew, both hurricane and last-decade quarterback, but Chubb and his leather-totin' friends did another several million dollars worth of improvements. What, you've heard that one? Up in the first paragraph? How was I to know you'd still be reading this thing? It's your life, dude.