Werewolf LI Major League (GAME OVER!!! INDIANS--GOOD GUYS--WIN!!!) - Page 2

KWhit · 08-03-2007, 08:17 PM

Bull Durham is the best baseball movie ever.

DaddyTorgo · 08-03-2007, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Actually, I really enjoy For the Love of the Game as well, but I know that's not really consensus opinion, so I leave it out when discussing great baseball movies.

I enjoy it too. It was on the other night ya know.

Chief Rum · 08-03-2007, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

I enjoy it too. It was on the other night ya know.

Was it? What channel's playing it now (usually just one channel will hold cable rights to something that new)? I'll keep an eye out.

Speaking of which, out here at least, the signature movie of this thread is currently on Bravo.

DaddyTorgo · 08-04-2007, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Was it? What channel's playing it now (usually just one channel will hold cable rights to something that new)? I'll keep an eye out.

Speaking of which, out here at least, the signature movie of this thread is currently on Bravo.

yep. It's on Bravo here too.

damm...ya know...i don't remember which channel it was.

RendeR · 08-04-2007, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by KWhit

Bull Durham is the best baseball movie ever.

QFT

Barkeep49 · 08-05-2007, 11:03 PM

As I am going to bed and don't have my role, I will just let you know now, much to what I am sure is your relief, that I am a villager. No need to vote here.

Celeval · 08-05-2007, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Actually, I really enjoy For the Love of the Game as well, but I know that's not really consensus opinion, so I leave it out when discussing great baseball movies.

I've always enjoyed this one too.

DaddyTorgo · 08-05-2007, 11:59 PM

I'm apparently the A-Gon of Major League. My name's Ivan Molina.

Simple villager too.

Lathum · 08-06-2007, 12:06 AM

villegar checking in

path12 · 08-06-2007, 12:14 AM

Jack Parkman checking in. You kids just stay out of the way and let me win these games for us.

Passacaglia · 08-06-2007, 12:32 AM

Wild Thing checking in. I wish I remembered this movie more, but if I recall, he was pretty funny.

Chief Rum · 08-06-2007, 12:43 AM

All PMs have been sent. Game startup post coming shortly.

Here is the text of the generic PM that everyone has received:

This is the generic PM referred to in your first PM (everyone has received another PM).

Your first PM takes precedence anywhere there is a contradiction.

You are all members of the Cleveland Indians organization. You all have names, roles and actions you may take. All actions for the day are due to me by that day's deadline.

Every member of the Indians can choose to affect the baseball game that night. Each member has three such actions. If you choose to use it, you lose it, regardless of whether or not your action figured in the winning of the game. Some players' actions will carry more weight than others, based on where they are in the talent rankings on the team. The most talented player's action offered to be used will be considered first. Only one player's action will actually be used in the game that night.

This PM is being sent to five people at a time, alphasbetically, regardless of allegiance.

As to that last sentence, Passacaglia and DaddyTorgo accidentally received theirs out of order. This is due to the rather significantly poor alphabetizing skills of the GM and nothing more.

PurdueBrad · 08-06-2007, 12:46 AM

Lou Brown checking in. Every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish dead last. But I'm for wasting sportswriters time so let's go out there and give them a nice big ****burger to eat.

Chief Rum · 08-06-2007, 12:49 AM

Harry Doyle: "Remember, fans, Tuesday is Die Hard Night. Free admission for anyone who was actually alive the last time the Indians won the pennant."

You're in the last days of the season and you're in a tight race for the pennant. And that witch of an owner you have is doing everything in her power to stop you. Can you avoid her treacherous traps and win it all? Or will Cleveland go through another awful, pennant-less winter?

The game has now officially begun.

GAME ON AND GOOD LUCK!!!

Day One is an extended day.

Day One Deadline is Tuesday, 7 P.M. EST/4 P.M. PDT

hoopsguy · 08-06-2007, 01:52 AM

Is there any reason to divulge which player on the roster we are? I don't really want to give an advantage to the rats that are working to keep our team from catching the stinking Yankees.

There were certain players on the roster that would seem more likely to be turncoats. Similarly, there are players on the roster who would seem more likely to benefit the team. I would like to hear some discussion on tipping our hands with player info before coming out and saying that I'm "Player X".

Because, obviously, I have a super-important villager role. Mondo important. Or else I just like playing contrarian. One or the other.

path12 · 08-06-2007, 06:42 AM

I don't think it matters since the wolves already know which characters are or aren't in the game.

Of course, you're not as studly as Jack Parkman, so I can imagine why you would want to remain anonymous.

I wonder if it might not be helpful if we end up trying to strategize the times we use our game powers to try and win. After all, since nobody on this team is as good as I am, we'd want to make sure when I use my game power that one of you lesser lights isn't shut out......

(OOC, I can't believe I've never seen this movie. I'm not sure how accurate I'm being with this role.....)

Barkeep49 · 08-06-2007, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Is there any reason to divulge which player on the roster we are? I don't really want to give an advantage to the rats that are working to keep our team from catching the stinking Yankees.

There were certain players on the roster that would seem more likely to be turncoats. Similarly, there are players on the roster who would seem more likely to benefit the team. I would like to hear some discussion on tipping our hands with player info before coming out and saying that I'm "Player X".

Because, obviously, I have a super-important villager role. Mondo important. Or else I just like playing contrarian. One or the other.

The rules explicitly say there is no linkage between names and roles except for two of the bad guys. We know all of the names which are in the game. I think we ought to all be revealing our names. Mine is Ken Parkhurst.

Barkeep49 · 08-06-2007, 08:19 AM

Path: Just confirming: You're claiming to be Jack Parkman?

Celeval · 08-06-2007, 08:22 AM

*bleary-eyed* Damnit, this is starting already? Christ, I'm hung over, my knees are killin' me and if you're going to pull this shit at least you could've said you were from the Yankees.

DaddyTorgo · 08-06-2007, 09:26 AM

one of the problems with revealing names though is it gives the wolves a target of who the more powerful players "Major League" wise are though, and thus a blueprint to pick them off that way...

DaddyTorgo · 08-06-2007, 09:27 AM

of course that may not be all bad if it keeps them away from traditionally stronger-WW players to go after people with important names/game affecting ability

Barkeep49 · 08-06-2007, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

one of the problems with revealing names though is it gives the wolves a target of who the more powerful players "Major League" wise are though, and thus a blueprint to pick them off that way...

True and I thought of that. To me winning needs to be our first priority. Winning really well would just be a bonus.

hoopsguy · 08-06-2007, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

The rules explicitly say there is no linkage between names and roles except for two of the bad guys. We know all of the names which are in the game. I think we ought to all be revealing our names. Mine is Ken Parkhurst.

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

one of the problems with revealing names though is it gives the wolves a target of who the more powerful players "Major League" wise are though, and thus a blueprint to pick them off that way...

Don't you think the wolves would prefer to go after Jake Taylor than after "Random Dude #1"? Who is more likely to influence the wins? If there is something in the rules that suggests that there is no relation between role name and their ability to impact the win, then I'm a little more inclined to release information.

No, I'm not Jake Taylor. I might not even be someone cool. But based on my understanding of the rules I think our strategy of revealing names is flawed at the moment.

Barkeep49 · 08-06-2007, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Don't you think the wolves would prefer to go after Jake Taylor than after "Random Dude #1"? Who is more likely to influence the wins? If there is something in the rules that suggests that there is no relation between role name and their ability to impact the win, then I'm a little more inclined to release information.

No, I'm not Jake Taylor. I might not even be someone cool. But based on my understanding of the rules I think our strategy of revealing names is flawed at the moment.

Based on this post I'm going to go ahead and vote for Hoops. I've never known him to be so oblivious to the rules. "If there is something in the rules"? C'mon, hoops would have gone back and found the important part, without much effort. So this is my vote for him. Next post will be a real response where I quote the rules explaining why we need to role reveal.

Vote Hoopsguy

Lathum · 08-06-2007, 10:07 AM

VOTE HOOPSGUY

I still owe you this one.

Passacaglia · 08-06-2007, 10:09 AM

I'm not sure what I think about names. I was all for it in Alan's game, but then we got distracted by all the shiny potions and such. After getting myself into trouble about it in the first day, it turned out they were pretty meaningless.

I gotta admit, my inclination is to be suspicious of folks that don't want to reveal names, but I like DT's point. Like I said, it's been a while since I've seen the movie -- is it pretty obvious who is more talented on the team?

Barkeep49 · 08-06-2007, 10:09 AM

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No editing of posts is allowed in this thread except by me, or by Barkeep, and only in his role as the forum moderator.

First let me thank CR for the love.

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The only characters that are absolutely allied one way are Rachel Phelps and Charlie Donovan, the owner and GM, and they will be wolves.

Whoever has these roles are allied and are bad. There are two extra roles, presumably for these two characters, but I would love to start to force the wolves to lie from the get go.

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These roles will be handed out at random, and can end on any player in the game.

Here's where we learn there's no correlation between baseball ability and WW finding ability.

hoopsguy · 08-06-2007, 10:11 AM

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Not everyone will be a character from the movies, although everyone will have a name. Roles and allegiance are not related to the character names. The only characters that are absolutely allied one way are Rachel Phelps and Charlie Donovan, the owner and GM, and they will be wolves.

That is in the rules. I see nothing that talks about order of action, which is a key component of the effectiveness of a player.

I'm not suggesting that Jake Taylor is the bodyguard or something like that. I'm suggesting, without knowing one way or the other, that he is more likely to have the ability to impact the outcome of the game.

I'm more than willing to pose this question to the GM to answer. If he says that was determined through random.org, then I'm fine with coming forward with information on role.

hoopsguy · 08-06-2007, 10:15 AM

Now if you want to try and put the squeeze on Phelps and Donovan by making them declare a role - there are 14 players and 16 listed names - then I completely get that strategy. I would expect them to flock to one of the four random-ish names rather than one of the name players in an attempt to avoid conflict.

I'm not either Phelps or Donovan and I won't be making a play at one of the random names at the bottom, some of which have already been claimed.

I wasn't intending to dig into this position as vehemently as I'm having to, but I don't think you are seeing the whole picture here Barkeep. And firing away with a 9:00 AM vote, before trying to have a discussion on this (which was my goal here) seems aggressive and outright dumb from where I'm sitting.

Passacaglia · 08-06-2007, 10:18 AM

Whoa, I almost missed lathum's vote in that slew. Is that another lathum joke-vote?

hoopsguy · 08-06-2007, 10:21 AM

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Some or all of the players listed in the roster in Post #1 could be in the game. The wolves will know which ones are in the game, and so will be able to assume absent character identities, so as to not limit the potential pool of wolves based on name.

If anything, I'm inclined to be more suspicious of the people leaping to claim names because the wolves know they are going to be able to avoid conflicts. So, contrary to the possible reason to reveal names listed in my last post, there is no reason that I can see to give the wolves a list of targets who are more likely to influence the outcome of a game with their "step it up" performance, by virtue of being a better baseball player.

And, I would suggest that some of the other "name" players agree with me as I've seen very few of the Indians marquee players come forward up to this point.

hoopsguy · 08-06-2007, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Whoa, I almost missed lathum's vote in that slew. Is that another lathum joke-vote?

Barkeep is the one who has put me in position to be lynched in event of a tie, based on the tie-breaker rules in this game. So while I'm not thrilled with either vote, the first one is the one that annoys me more.

Barkeep49 · 08-06-2007, 10:29 AM

I'm announcing right now that I'm going to do my best to shut up early on in the next game. Hoops is already angling towards going after me and so I think I'll just quietly face my fate next game rather than inviting it in.

hoopsguy · 08-06-2007, 10:29 AM

Barkeep, can you continue demonstrating for me just how oblivious I am about the rules?

Since the reveals are already out there for the wolves to see, here are the notes that I'm using to track what people want to divulge. I'll continue tracking these, but I'm hoping not to have a ton more names to work with until we get some kind of consensus on whether reveals help/hurt our cause.

DaddyT - Ivan Molina (random dude)
Lathum - undeclared villager
Path - Jack Parkman (C/DH)
Pass - Wild Thing (P)
Purdue - Lou Brown (Mgr)
Ceveval - hints at Jake Taylor (C)
Hoops - undeclared position player

hoopsguy · 08-06-2007, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

I'm announcing right now that I'm going to do my best to shut up early on in the next game. Hoops is already angling towards going after me and so I think I'll just quietly face my fate next game rather than inviting it in.

Angling to go after you? Dude, you came out blazing after me with your vote! You accuse me of not reading the rules, which MUST make me a wolf, and were wrong on both counts. I don't retaliate with a vote immediately, as we have 1.5 days before deadline, but I'M THE ONE GOING AFTER YOU?

What kind of Bizarro world are you living in?

Passacaglia · 08-06-2007, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Barkeep, can you continue demonstrating for me just how oblivious I am about the rules?

Since the reveals are already out there for the wolves to see, here are the notes that I'm using to track what people want to divulge. I'll continue tracking these, but I'm hoping not to have a ton more names to work with until we get some kind of consensus on whether reveals help/hurt our cause.

DaddyT - Ivan Molina (random dude)
Lathum - undeclared villager
Path - Jack Parkman (C/DH)
Pass - Wild Thing (P)
Purdue - Lou Brown (Mgr)
Ceveval - hints at Jake Taylor (C)
Hoops - undeclared position player

Thanks for this, hoops. But do we need to worry about the names giving an indication of talent? I mean, aren't we all supposed to be pretty talentless?

hoopsguy · 08-06-2007, 10:35 AM

Can someone refresh my memory on who Jack Parkman is in the game? I did a search for the name against the movie script and didn't see it. Nor do I see an actor "David Keith" listed in the imdb.com cast page.

Passacaglia · 08-06-2007, 10:36 AM

I think I've lost track of the argument here.

hoopsguy · 08-06-2007, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Thanks for this, hoops. But do we need to worry about the names giving an indication of talent? I mean, aren't we all supposed to be pretty talentless?

Given that the team is competing for a division title, we obviously are not talentless. Given that the rules state that some players have more ability to impact a win with their night actions, we obviously are not equally talented.

Barkeep49 · 08-06-2007, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

The rules explicitly say there is no linkage between names and roles except for two of the bad guys. We know all of the names which are in the game. I think we ought to all be revealing our names. Mine is Ken Parkhurst.

My reveal is here. I'm a pinch hitting specialist.

KWhit · 08-06-2007, 10:37 AM

Kind of surprised that votes are already flying around.

Anyway.... Not sure about the name thing. I don't know if it makes sense to reveal them yet or not.

So for now, I'll just state that I'm a normal villager/ballplayer checking in.

hoopsguy · 08-06-2007, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I think I've lost track of the argument here.

Summary below:

Hoops - why are we all revealing our names? We might be giving away free info to the wolves.

Barkeep - read the rules, Hoops. Vote Hoops

Barkeep - post rules

Hoops - hmm, those rules don't make your point about night actions.

Barkeep - Hoops is gunning for me

Hoops - scratches head, continues trying to get meaning out of Day 1

Passacaglia · 08-06-2007, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Summary below:

Hoops - why are we all revealing our names? We might be giving away free info to the wolves.

Barkeep - read the rules, Hoops. Vote Hoops

Barkeep - post rules

Hoops - hmm, those rules don't make your point about night actions.

Barkeep - Hoops is gunning for me

Hoops - scratches head, continues trying to get meaning out of Day 1

Thanks. Can I get Barkeeps's side now?

hoopsguy · 08-06-2007, 10:41 AM

Looks like Parkman makes his appearance in Major League 2, which I have not seen. So Path, no idea if you are "playing" him correctly.

hoopsguy · 08-06-2007, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Thanks. Can I get Barkeeps's side now?

I'm not paranoid/delusional enough to adequately capture his state of mind at the moment, I'm afraid.

Lathum · 08-06-2007, 10:43 AM

So I am confused. There are 16 names and 14 players. Why shouldn't we reveal our names. The wolves would have to try and fake reveal. The odds are they will pick a name already taken and we can go from there?

I am Isuro Tanaka

hoopsguy · 08-06-2007, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

So I am confused. There are 16 names and 14 players. Why shouldn't we reveal our names. The wolves would have to try and fake reveal. The odds are they will pick a name already taken and we can go from there?

I am Isuro Tanaka

No, they won't.

From Post #2, by Chief Rum
Some or all of the players listed in the roster in Post #1 could be in the game. The wolves will know which ones are in the game, and so will be able to assume absent character identities, so as to not limit the potential pool of wolves based on name.

KWhit · 08-06-2007, 10:47 AM

I don't want to be left as one of the last to reveal my name if that's going to draw suspicion later.

I am Tom Kettner.

Gonzo · 08-06-2007, 10:50 AM

I'm Willie Mays Hays. I can hit faster than "Mays" and run faster than..."Hays". Or it might be the other way round. And I'm a villager too.

KWhit · 08-06-2007, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

No, they won't.

From Post #2, by Chief Rum
Some or all of the players listed in the roster in Post #1 could be in the game. The wolves will know which ones are in the game, and so will be able to assume absent character identities, so as to not limit the potential pool of wolves based on name.

If that's the case, why wouldn't we want to reveal?

Do you think that the ability to influence the game is tied to the player name? I would imagine that CR would randomize that for the game (at least I'd hope so). Otherwise it would be too easy for the wolves to pick off the best players, don't you think?

08-06-2007, 12:14 AM	#60
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Jack Parkman checking in. You kids just stay out of the way and let me win these games for us. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

08-06-2007, 12:49 AM	#64
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Harry Doyle: "Remember, fans, Tuesday is Die Hard Night. Free admission for anyone who was actually alive the last time the Indians won the pennant." You're in the last days of the season and you're in a tight race for the pennant. And that witch of an owner you have is doing everything in her power to stop you. Can you avoid her treacherous traps and win it all? Or will Cleveland go through another awful, pennant-less winter? The game has now officially begun. GAME ON AND GOOD LUCK!!! Day One is an extended day. Day One Deadline is Tuesday, 7 P.M. EST/4 P.M. PDT Last edited by Chief Rum : 08-06-2007 at 12:51 AM.

08-06-2007, 06:42 AM	#66
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	I don't think it matters since the wolves already know which characters are or aren't in the game. Of course, you're not as studly as Jack Parkman, so I can imagine why you would want to remain anonymous. I wonder if it might not be helpful if we end up trying to strategize the times we use our game powers to try and win. After all, since nobody on this team is as good as I am, we'd want to make sure when I use my game power that one of you lesser lights isn't shut out...... (OOC, I can't believe I've never seen this movie. I'm not sure how accurate I'm being with this role.....) __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

08-05-2007, 11:03 PM	#56
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	As I am going to bed and don't have my role, I will just let you know now, much to what I am sure is your relief, that I am a villager. No need to vote here.

08-05-2007, 11:59 PM	#58
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	I'm apparently the A-Gon of Major League. My name's Ivan Molina. Simple villager too.

08-06-2007, 12:06 AM	#59
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	villegar checking in

08-06-2007, 12:32 AM	#61
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Wild Thing checking in. I wish I remembered this movie more, but if I recall, he was pretty funny.

08-06-2007, 12:43 AM	#62
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	All PMs have been sent. Game startup post coming shortly. Here is the text of the generic PM that everyone has received: This is the generic PM referred to in your first PM (everyone has received another PM). Your first PM takes precedence anywhere there is a contradiction. You are all members of the Cleveland Indians organization. You all have names, roles and actions you may take. All actions for the day are due to me by that day's deadline. Every member of the Indians can choose to affect the baseball game that night. Each member has three such actions. If you choose to use it, you lose it, regardless of whether or not your action figured in the winning of the game. Some players' actions will carry more weight than others, based on where they are in the talent rankings on the team. The most talented player's action offered to be used will be considered first. Only one player's action will actually be used in the game that night. This PM is being sent to five people at a time, alphasbetically, regardless of allegiance. As to that last sentence, Passacaglia and DaddyTorgo accidentally received theirs out of order. This is due to the rather significantly poor alphabetizing skills of the GM and nothing more.

08-06-2007, 12:46 AM	#63
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Lou Brown checking in. Every newspaper in the country has picked us to finish dead last. But I'm for wasting sportswriters time so let's go out there and give them a nice big ****burger to eat.

08-06-2007, 01:52 AM	#65
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Is there any reason to divulge which player on the roster we are? I don't really want to give an advantage to the rats that are working to keep our team from catching the stinking Yankees. There were certain players on the roster that would seem more likely to be turncoats. Similarly, there are players on the roster who would seem more likely to benefit the team. I would like to hear some discussion on tipping our hands with player info before coming out and saying that I'm "Player X". Because, obviously, I have a super-important villager role. Mondo important. Or else I just like playing contrarian. One or the other.

08-06-2007, 08:19 AM	#68
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Path: Just confirming: You're claiming to be Jack Parkman?

08-06-2007, 08:22 AM	#69
Celeval Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Cary, NC, USA	bleary-eyed Damnit, this is starting already? Christ, I'm hung over, my knees are killin' me and if you're going to pull this shit at least you could've said you were from the Yankees.

08-06-2007, 09:26 AM	#70
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	one of the problems with revealing names though is it gives the wolves a target of who the more powerful players "Major League" wise are though, and thus a blueprint to pick them off that way...

08-06-2007, 09:27 AM	#71
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	of course that may not be all bad if it keeps them away from traditionally stronger-WW players to go after people with important names/game affecting ability

08-06-2007, 10:07 AM	#75
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	VOTE HOOPSGUY I still owe you this one.

08-06-2007, 10:09 AM	#76
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	I'm not sure what I think about names. I was all for it in Alan's game, but then we got distracted by all the shiny potions and such. After getting myself into trouble about it in the first day, it turned out they were pretty meaningless. I gotta admit, my inclination is to be suspicious of folks that don't want to reveal names, but I like DT's point. Like I said, it's been a while since I've seen the movie -- is it pretty obvious who is more talented on the team?

08-06-2007, 10:15 AM	#79
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Now if you want to try and put the squeeze on Phelps and Donovan by making them declare a role - there are 14 players and 16 listed names - then I completely get that strategy. I would expect them to flock to one of the four random-ish names rather than one of the name players in an attempt to avoid conflict. I'm not either Phelps or Donovan and I won't be making a play at one of the random names at the bottom, some of which have already been claimed. I wasn't intending to dig into this position as vehemently as I'm having to, but I don't think you are seeing the whole picture here Barkeep. And firing away with a 9:00 AM vote, before trying to have a discussion on this (which was my goal here) seems aggressive and outright dumb from where I'm sitting.

08-06-2007, 10:18 AM	#80
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Whoa, I almost missed lathum's vote in that slew. Is that another lathum joke-vote?

08-06-2007, 10:29 AM	#83
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I'm announcing right now that I'm going to do my best to shut up early on in the next game. Hoops is already angling towards going after me and so I think I'll just quietly face my fate next game rather than inviting it in.

08-06-2007, 10:35 AM	#87
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Can someone refresh my memory on who Jack Parkman is in the game? I did a search for the name against the movie script and didn't see it. Nor do I see an actor "David Keith" listed in the imdb.com cast page.

08-06-2007, 10:36 AM	#88
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	I think I've lost track of the argument here.

08-06-2007, 10:37 AM	#91
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Kind of surprised that votes are already flying around. Anyway.... Not sure about the name thing. I don't know if it makes sense to reveal them yet or not. So for now, I'll just state that I'm a normal villager/ballplayer checking in.

08-06-2007, 10:41 AM	#94
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Looks like Parkman makes his appearance in Major League 2, which I have not seen. So Path, no idea if you are "playing" him correctly.

08-06-2007, 10:43 AM	#96
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	So I am confused. There are 16 names and 14 players. Why shouldn't we reveal our names. The wolves would have to try and fake reveal. The odds are they will pick a name already taken and we can go from there? I am Isuro Tanaka

08-06-2007, 10:47 AM	#98
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I don't want to be left as one of the last to reveal my name if that's going to draw suspicion later. I am Tom Kettner.

08-06-2007, 10:50 AM	#99
Gonzo Mascot Join Date: Jul 2007	I'm Willie Mays Hays. I can hit faster than "Mays" and run faster than..."Hays". Or it might be the other way round. And I'm a villager too.

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