Official College Football Week 13 Thread

[cartman]

Don't think I've ever seen a lateral like the one that just happened in the Oregon game. The QB optioned, and while running at near full speed 10 yards downfield, turned and rifled the ball to the RB.

[Thomkal]

Well despite being blown out by South Carolina 70-10, Coastal Carolina wins the Big South Conference! They got some help from Charleston Southern who choked big time the last two games, losing both, including this week to Liberty 56-14. Ouch.

Some bad news however-the tiebreaker went to Butler in the Pioneer League so the very unexpected run of Marist ends here for the season.

[BillJasper]

I wonder if Muschamp is now done at Florida?

[MrBug708]

How does Florida keep him?

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by BillJasper

I wonder if Muschamp is now done at Florida?

wondering the same

[Buccaneer]

I just realized it was to a mediocre division 2 team...at home. That's pathetic.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by tarcone

YES! Iowa gets a come from behind win over Michigan on Senior day. Defense was outstanding. Just dominating. Gave up about 129 total yards.
Looks like the Gator Bowl will be calling.

Unfortunately, limiting Michigan's offense isn't that hard. Three of the past four games the most total yardage they had was 175 yards. Yes, you limited them the least and even beating out MSU, but I think the formula is rather well known at this point. I am so done with this year's team. Meyer must giggle himself to sleep thinking of the beat down they are going to lay on Michigan in a year OSU seems hell bent to reach the title game via style points. Congrats on the win though.

Originally Posted by BillJasper

I wonder if Muschamp is now done at Florida?

Just wait for the FSU beat down.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by cartman

Wow, Arizona over Oregon 21-3 early in the 2nd quarter.

Oregon players openly admitted they wanted to play in the title game and are tired of playing in the Rose Bowl. I guess if this holds up they won't need to worry about that either.

[digamma]

We need to start charging Yale rent.

[Buccaneer]

Arizona is literally running all over the Ducks. I love it.

[MizzouRah]

MIZ baby.. BIG GAME TONIGHT!

[MrBug708]

Oregon gets beaten down

[MrBug708]

UCLA is going to start Myles Jack at RB

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by Buccaneer

I just realized it was to a mediocre division 2 team...at home. That's pathetic.

Who completed 0 passes all game and only attempted 3.

[General Mike]

Will Muschamp, we hardly knew ye

[MrBug708]

He can go back to being Texas' coach in waiting

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by mauchow

-One of UCLA/ASU will fall below

Best case scenario in that it looks to be UCLA. The better ASU does, the better that close loss helps.

[Lathum]

uhoh, loked pretty bad for Aaron Murray

[mauchow]

Omg that was a cold game. The Gophers were bad. 15 beelow wind chill was brutal for both sides.

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by Lathum

uhoh, loked pretty bad for Aaron Murray

Might be a horrible way to end his college career.

[MrBug708]

UCLA looks terrible

[Eaglesfan27]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

UCLA looks terrible

On the very rare night where I was rooting for them to win too

[GrantDawg]

They just tweeted Murray left the stadium in an ambulance. Heartbreaking.

[Lathum]

Great start for the Huskies behind freshman Cyler Miles getting the start

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Great win for Mizzou. One win away from a spot in the SEC Championship game.

[Matthean]

Baylor is out. It will be interesting to see what would happen if Auburn won out, would they jump OSU, and the fall out of it. Not that I expect them to.

[Lathum]

Couldn't be happier with the Dawgs effort, easily the best road win in the Sark era. Miles looked really poised on the road and the running game and defense were great.

Wish we came out this prepared against UCLA instead of spotting them 14 early points.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Great win for Mizzou. One win away from a spot in the SEC Championship game.

Please take care of business next week.
As satisfying as it would be to see Bama hang 50 on SC...I'm sick of their fans not knowing how to handle any success.

[JonInMiddleGA]

ACL surgery scheduled for Aaron Murray on Tuesday (per his mom's Tweet)

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

How does Florida keep him?

Talked with Mark Long (AP), who is as connected to happenings at UF as anyone not on the payroll and maybe more so than some that are, this morning and he says Foley is still emphatic that Muschamp gets one more year. Says even during the interview process Muschamp told him the first 3 would be tough due to the style and quality of players left behind and his intended direction for the program.

I mean, Saban lost to UL Monroe BUT it was year 1....clean house and bleed then build.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Torn ACL now confirmed (the initial reports didn't specify beyond "injured ACL") ... Georgia Bulldogs' Aaron Murray has torn ACL, won't return - ESPN

[bob]

Sad for Murray, further sad that GT might have a chance against the decaying corpse of UGA. I don't want CPJ getting credit for a win under these circumstances.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Talked with Mark Long (AP), who is as connected to happenings at UF as anyone not on the payroll and maybe more so than some that are, this morning and he says Foley is still emphatic that Muschamp gets one more year. Says even during the interview process Muschamp told him the first 3 would be tough due to the style and quality of players left behind and his intended direction for the program.

I mean, Saban lost to UL Monroe BUT it was year 1....clean house and bleed then build.

He might get another year, but there's little reason for hope right now. Even if the offense gets better, they lost a game where they only had to defend the run and couldn't do that.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by bob

Sad for Murray, further sad that GT might have a chance against the decaying corpse of UGA. I don't want CPJ getting credit for a win under these circumstances.

Eh, I don't see this changing the hopelessness of the situation all that much.

UGA would have to completely phone the game in across every facet of the game to avoid winning ... and even then it's not much more than a toss up. The talent gap is comically tragic.

With Richt & Co. in charge, there's always a chance of them getting outcoached but with CPJ on the other sideline it's a helluva longshot.

[JonInMiddleGA]

So ... Bama, FSU, tOSU now followed by Auburn, Missouri, Clemson

If Bama beats Auburn but somehow loses to Missouri
If FSU loses to Duke (sans Winston, or even with him)
If tOSU loses to Michigan State

Do we get Mizzou - Clemson?
Do FSU & tOSU losses save Bama?

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

So ... Bama, FSU, tOSU now followed by Auburn, Missouri, Clemson

If Bama beats Auburn but somehow loses to Missouri
If FSU loses to Duke (sans Winston, or even with him)
If tOSU loses to Michigan State

Do we get Mizzou - Clemson?
Do FSU & tOSU losses save Bama?

I'll say one thing. Mizzou still has a legitimate shot to reach the National Championship game even having one loss on their record. In the Big 12, there's absolutely no shot of that happening. This year is a clear illustration of why Mizzou made the move to the SEC.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

I'll say one thing. Mizzou still has a legitimate shot to reach the National Championship game even having one loss on their record. In the Big 12, there's absolutely no shot of that happening. This year is a clear illustration of why Mizzou made the move to the SEC.

The really confusing possibility I see in all this is that -- under typical voter behavior patterns -- Clemson could end up in front of FSU, but if the 'Noles are playing with one loss with Winston that seems to border on insanity.

Incidentally, while I'm posting anyway ... we're just an SC upset of Clemson away from probably having 4 of the top 8 (you know, that mythical playoff number) teams be from the SEC.

[CU Tiger]

Yep and the ESPn bias is working like crazy.
Who has Auburn beaten?
Mizzou?

Its all crazy I just cant figure out who is after Bama, FSU, OHst.

[Matthean]

Wisconsin up to #15 in the BCS. Odds are good they can move up one with a final win and an expected MSU loss.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

I'll say one thing. Mizzou still has a legitimate shot to reach the National Championship game even having one loss on their record. In the Big 12, there's absolutely no shot of that happening. This year is a clear illustration of why Mizzou made the move to the SEC.

Was this the reason or is it for that cupcake college basketball schedule?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Its all crazy I just cant figure out who is after Bama, FSU, OHst.

It does get a little problematic.

Things tend to work themselves out in the end, so it probably won't matter who is after those three ... but it is rather confusing to speculate.

Consider this too ... for the teams behind those three to matter, we then have to (re)figure where not only Auburn (who will have beaten Bama) but also Michigan State (who will have beaten tOSU) fit into the new picture.

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

I'll say one thing. Mizzou still has a legitimate shot to reach the National Championship game even having one loss on their record. In the Big 12, there's absolutely no shot of that happening. This year is a clear illustration of why Mizzou made the move to the SEC.

At the risk of falling into a trap here, since I am not questioning that the move to the SEC was a good one...

While a member of the Big 12, Missouri had 1 loss (to Oklahoma in early October) in 2007 and was ranked #1 going the final week of the season (before getting blown out by Oklahoma in the Big 12 title game). I would say that Missouri had a legitimate shot of playing in the BCS championship that season as a one loss team. Additionally, Nebraska (2001) and Oklahoma (2003, 2008) played for the BCS championships as one loss teams.

Similarly, WVU, while in the Big East, had an opportunity to play in the title game in 2007 with one loss (to USF). They were ranked #2 going into that same week and were upset by Pitt. So, theoretically, a Big East team was also capable of making the title game as a one loss team.

This year, there are obviously still three undefeated AQ teams. If all three lose, then it pretty much turns into the same situation as 2007, with a ton of one loss teams jockeying for the #1 and #2 spots.

So, while the move to the SEC was a slam dunk for Missouri and A&M, let's not act like being in the lowly Big 12 keeps one loss schools out of the title consideration.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

At the risk of falling into a trap here, since I am not questioning that the move to the SEC was a good one...

While a member of the Big 12, Missouri had 1 loss (to Oklahoma in early October) in 2007 and was ranked #1 going the final week of the season (before getting blown out by Oklahoma in the Big 12 title game). I would say that Missouri had a legitimate shot of playing in the BCS championship that season as a one loss team. Additionally, Nebraska (2001) and Oklahoma (2003, 2008) played for the BCS championships as one loss teams.

Similarly, WVU, while in the Big East, had an opportunity to play in the title game in 2007 with one loss (to USF). They were ranked #2 going into that same week and were upset by Pitt. So, theoretically, a Big East team was also capable of making the title game as a one loss team.

This year, there are obviously still three undefeated AQ teams. If all three lose, then it pretty much turns into the same situation as 2007, with a ton of one loss teams jockeying for the #1 and #2 spots.

So, while the move to the SEC was a slam dunk for Missouri and A&M, let's not act like being in the lowly Big 12 keeps one loss schools out of the title consideration.

Without Mizzou and Nebraska, that conference doesn't carry nearly the same amount of clout it once did. Those two programs were the only reason the North had any form of respect over the last few years.

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Was this the reason or is it for that cupcake college basketball schedule?

Definitely had to improve the non-conference schedule to make up for that. But basketball is a different beast as well. As Kentucky has proven, you don't have to be in a good conference or go through without many losses to achieve great things in college basketball.

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Without Mizzou and Nebraska, that conference doesn't carry nearly the same amount of clout it once did. Those two programs were the only reason the North had any form of respect over the last few years.

We know you feel that way. You should have just said that, rather than saying that a 1-loss Missouri would never be considered for the championship game in the Big 12, when in fact they themselves and several other Big 12 teams have been in the mix when there are one or fewer undefeated AQ teams.

And, not to take away from Missouri's great 2013, but their above mentioned 2007 season was the only time in the past ten seasons that either team entered the Big 12 championship with a top 12 ranking (as opposed to the South team being ranked in the top 10 every season since 2000) and neither team has won the Big 12 championship since 1999 (when Osborne was still running Nebraska at full throttle), so it isn't like Texas and Oklahoma have been getting any major/relevant SOS boosts from beating up on the North teams over the past 10+ years.

FWIW, Kansas (once), Kansas State (twice), WVU (three times), and TCU (four times) have all finished the season in the top 12 within that time frame, as well.

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

FWIW, Kansas (once), Kansas State (twice), WVU (three times), and TCU (four times) have all finished the season in the top 12 within that time frame, as well.

Pretty sure that TCU and WVU were not in the B12 when Mizzou was. They were playing in far difference conferences that allowed them those finishes.

Regardless, I don't anyone outside of the B12 is going to argue against my statement. Until the bias is removed, there's not a better place to be in college football if you want the best shot at a national championship than the SEC.

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Pretty sure that TCU and WVU were not in the B12 when Mizzou was. They were playing in far difference conferences that allowed them those finishes.

Regardless, I don't anyone outside of the B12 is going to argue against my statement. Until the bias is removed, there's not a better place to be in college football if you want the best shot at a national championship than the SEC.

...and, I wouldn't disagree with any of those statements.

I disagree with this one because recent history suggests that it is simply not true (with Missouri's last good season as evidence):

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

I'll say one thing. Mizzou still has a legitimate shot to reach the National Championship game even having one loss on their record. In the Big 12, there's absolutely no shot of that happening. This year is a clear illustration of why Mizzou made the move to the SEC.

Congrats on the season -- I'm sure it has been a lot of fun.

[BishopMVP]

Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan

Without Mizzou and Nebraska, that conference doesn't carry nearly the same amount of clout it once did. Those two programs were the only reason the North had any form of respect over the last few years.

. The Big 12 North was never respected.

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by Matthean

Wisconsin up to #15 in the BCS. Odds are good they can move up one with a final win and an expected MSU loss.

Wisconsin will probably finish around 10-12 when everything shakes out.

All I keep hearing from bowl projections is that the Badgers would definitely be picked to the Orange Bowl over a disinterested Oregon team. That would be well deserving for the Badgers.

Teams like Oregon, Baylor and whoever else lost big at any point during the season should be knocked down a peg or three.

-I have a feeling NIU or Fresno will lose. Maybe both, yet.
-Badgers will jump the loser of Stanford/ASU Pac 12 CCG
-South Carolina/Clemson loser is a likely jump for WI as well
-MSU HAS TO LOSE TO OSU, or WI's done.
-Does Baylor have another letdown game?
-OKSt/OU
Mizzou/A&M, I know WI won't jump Mizzou but a few computer polls will drop them.

All in all a good season for the Badgers if they can close out the season on a high note on Senior Day against Penn St. Vegas says 24+ point blowout..so lets do it, boys! Send Abbrederris and Borland off in style!

[Mizzou B-ball fan]

Originally Posted by BishopMVP

. The Big 12 North was never respected.

There was nothing in my statement that disagreed with yours. We're bickering over whether there was very little or none. Hence the reason the two best programs in the North moved on to greener pastures, weakening the entire conference. I'm sure the B12 is still trying to convince themselves that they recruited the equal of Mizzou and Nebraska, but it just doesn't fly.

[Logan]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

At the risk of falling into a trap here...

You should have quit there.