2016 College Football Offseason (Non-recruiting thread)

[cartman]

Originally Posted by cartman

The new OC they brought in runs the kind of offense that Jerrod Heard is used to. My guess is that unless Buechele just wows everyone in the spring, he'll be redshirted and Heard will be the QB.

Heard was hurt and didn't play in the Orange/White game. But Buechele easily outclassed Tyrone Swoopes, and didn't look like a freshman early enrollee. He just might end up starting against Notre Dame.

[Logan]

Coming out on Twitter now that the NCAA has overturned the satellite camp ban already.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Logan

Coming out on Twitter now that the NCAA has overturned the satellite camp ban already.

Not all that surprised by this to be honest.

The ban seemed like a massive overreaction in the first place, really hurting the student-athlete more than anyone else, helping primarily those who seemed to be a little fearful of increased competition. Once the possibility that Congress might get involved was brought up, this was probably inevitable.

[Logan]

Agreed Jon.

[Butter]

So, how fucked is Ole Miss? On a scale of "not at all" to "extremely".

[MrBug708]

Sec, so no

[JPhillips]

Some D2 school is going to get hosed, though.

[panerd]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Sec, so no

Maybe if you said Bama and LSU, no. I don't think they care about the entire SEC much less Ole Miss. It would actually be in Bama and LSU's favor for Ole Miss to get hammered.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

So, how fucked is Ole Miss? On a scale of "not at all" to "extremely".

Eventually? Very badly IMO.

[digamma]

Mississippi Valley State is gonna get hammered over this.

[Atocep]

Baylor is going to be in some shit.

Timeline of events:
Comprehensive Baylor Timeline Covering Now-Publicized Incidents : CFB

More info from the guy that broke the story:
RosterWatch | Alex Dunlap on the Baylor Scandal

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by Atocep

Baylor is going to be in some shit.

Timeline of events:
Comprehensive Baylor Timeline Covering Now-Publicized Incidents : CFB

More info from the guy that broke the story:
RosterWatch | Alex Dunlap on the Baylor Scandal

There is a special place in hell for fucktards that harass sexual assault victims because they're upset that allegations of those assaults will harm their favorite college football program.

[CU Tiger]

Ray Lewis III arrested for Cosbying girls at Coastal Carolina

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Ray Lewis III arrested for Cosbying girls at Coastal Carolina

Not surprisingly, he's been suspended already.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...icle-1.2618986

http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/spo...e74696527.html

[CU Tiger]

In a weird twist, he lived in the apartment that my SIL lived in last year.
Not the same complex, mind you the same damn unit.

[Thomkal]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

In a weird twist, he lived in the apartment that my SIL lived in last year.
Not the same complex, mind you the same damn unit.

weird

[bob]

Court Opinion Reveals Joe Paterno Reportedly Knew Of Jerry Sandusky Molesting Children As Early As 1976

[CU Tiger]

Everyone who is a football fan should read this:
Remembering Doug Rhoads, former ACC coordinator of football

Paging Dr. Sak,

[MacroGuru]

BYU held their FanFest today near my house, so I decided to head on over.

I haven't talked to Kalani for years and I waited in line to see him. His dad saw me and was willing to take me upfront to him and I told him it's ok, just wanted to surprise him.

I lived in NY almost the entire time he coached at Utah so I haven't seen him in over 10 years, needless to say, he was shocked to see me.

It was great talking to him and pretty funny to get chastised by the head coach of my favorite program for not coming and seeing him earlier.

Best part was the open invite to come down to the offices so he can introduce me to Ty Detmer and the other coaches and the team.

[Butter]

Game times for ESPN's major first weekend games have been announced:

ESPN/ABC Set for Best College Football Opening Weekend Schedule Ever - ESPN MediaZone

[Dr. Sak]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Everyone who is a football fan should read this:
Remembering Doug Rhoads, former ACC coordinator of football

Paging Dr. Sak,

Yea I was aware. Doug is the reason I am where I am...he took a chance on me and I am forever grateful. I am glad he is no longer suffering.

[dawgfan]

Guns and weed are not a good mix

[HomerSimpson98]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Game times for ESPN's major first weekend games have been announced:

ESPN/ABC Set for Best College Football Opening Weekend Schedule Ever - ESPN MediaZone

Wow. Thats delicious. That Clemson-Auburn game should be something else. In Jordan-Hare to boot. USC-Bama will be tasty too

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

Guns and weed are not a good mix

Stolen from another message board:

I wonder how many times a year in America that a guy named Hootie gets arrested for weed.

[Easy Mac]

psh... wake me when the SEC schedules a tough game for once

[dawgfan]

The news keeps getting worse at Baylor

Heads are going to have to roll, right?

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

The news keeps getting worse at Baylor

Heads are going to have to roll, right?

At Baylor? No

[CU Tiger]

If there was an independent college football commissioner Baylor and Tennessee would eb looking for coaches right now

[MrBug708]

UCLA becomes another school leaving ADIDAS as they are reported to be signing with UA for 15 years, 280 million, making it the highest athletic contract by 28 million

[Breeze]

Apparently Ken Starr fired at Baylor but so far looks like Briles is keeping his job...


http://www.si.com/college-football/2...dent-ken-starr

[dawgfan]

Originally Posted by Breeze

Apparently Ken Starr fired at Baylor but so far looks like Briles is keeping his job...


http://www.si.com/college-football/2...dent-ken-starr

Well, clearly football is more important than the rest of the university.

[CU Tiger]

President contracts don't have buyouts, payoffs to negotiate.

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Breeze

Apparently Ken Starr fired at Baylor but so far looks like Briles is keeping his job...


http://www.si.com/college-football/2...dent-ken-starr

The only way Briles was going anywhere was if he was caught sexually assaulting one of the girls himself.

That program is scared to death of going back to what they were before he arrived.

[digamma]

You usually don't have to pay a buyout in a for cause termination. It's just whether you have the guts to defend the for cause in court.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by digamma

You usually don't have to pay a buyout in a for cause termination. It's just whether you have the guts to defend the for cause in court.

right, but it is always prudent to give your counsel fair opportunity to review the contract and advise if you have sufficient evidence "for cause" and if not to quietly negotiate an exit.

[Logan]

Mike Rice didn't get fired for cause at Rutgers. It's rarely that easy.

[Atocep]

I stand corrected. It sounds like Briles gets fired today.

[Logan]

Took way too long.

[Atocep]

The investigation must have turned up some crazy stuff because the firm they hired to do the investigation doesn't have a reputation for digging deep to get to the truth. They're hired to help spin and mitigate damage.

[cartman]

You'd think after the whole basketball fiasco that Baylor's athletic department would not want to get burned again.

[digamma]

Just when it looked like the Starrs had aligned for Briles...

[molson]

It's a tough time to be a university dealing with stuff like this. You can't do too little, but you also can't do too much. More recently, I think the pendulum has swung in the direction of more media and legal commentator criticism towards universities who are too aggressive in addressing sexual misconduct of students against other students. I read a ton of stuff now about how universities should stay out of it completely and "leave it to the police".

[cartman]

Originally Posted by molson

It's a tough time to be a university dealing with stuff like this. You can't do too little, but you also can't do too much. More recently, I think the pendulum has swung in the direction of more media and legal commentator criticism towards universities who are too aggressive in addressing sexual misconduct of students against other students. I read a ton of stuff now about how universities should stay out of it completely and "leave it to the police".

But most colleges, Baylor included, have a university police department.

[muns]

Originally Posted by molson

It's a tough time to be a university dealing with stuff like this. You can't do too little, but you also can't do too much. More recently, I think the pendulum has swung in the direction of more media and legal commentator criticism towards universities who are too aggressive in addressing sexual misconduct of students against other students. I read a ton of stuff now about how universities should stay out of it completely and "leave it to the police".

We can't stay out of it even if we want to. I would want nothing more than to hand over any type of sexual related stuff over to the police and say have at it, however, title IX/ the federal government forces us to do things or risk funding. So, here I am investigating sexual assaults, sexual harassments, rapes, stalkings, relationship violence and anything else that falls under the title IX umbrella.

Staying out of it isn't even an option anymore. Once it gets reported, we are on notice.

[molson]

Originally Posted by cartman

But most colleges, Baylor included, have a university police department.

Those officers, at least at Baylor, are the same as any other Texas police officers and are a part of the criminal justice system. I'm just talking about the difference between university (non-police) investigations and discipline v. the criminal justice system.

Originally Posted by muns

We can't stay out of it even if we want to. I would want nothing more than to hand over any type of sexual related stuff over to the police and say have at it, however, title IX/ the federal government forces us to do things or risk funding. So, here I am investigating sexual assaults, sexual harassments, rapes, stalkings, relationship violence and anything else that falls under the title IX umbrella.

Staying out of it isn't even an option anymore. Once it gets reported, we are on notice.

And I think that's a good thing, and that this growing opinion to the contrary is backwards-thinking. It brings us back to a time where victims are ignored and have to just deal with it and see their rapists every day or drop out of college. Because criminal charges aren't always possible, it's a high standard, and it's ultimately up to the non-challengeable opinion of one prosecutor, or one officer.

But, it's a whole thing right now, bolstered by some high-profile lawsuits. I hang out at /r/law a lot, and this is one of the more contentious issues there at the moment. And this is the rallying cry from progressive commentators like at Slate. Which makes it kind of scary - if there's both liberal and conservative voices that want campuses to ignore and defer this stuff, then it has real traction. This is the kind of stuff that's cited there.

College rape: Campus sexual assault is a serious problem. But the efforts to protect women are infringing on the civil rights of men.

The police, not universities, should be handling rape accusations | The John William Pope Center for Higher Education Policy

For Students Accused Of Campus Rape, Legal Victories Win Back Rights : NPR

Several students win recent lawsuits against colleges that punished them for sexual assault

Police, not colleges, should investigate sex assaults on campus (David M. Rubin) | syracuse.com

But maybe the Baylor thing transcends all this and they were actively thwarting police investigations. And ya, there's Title IX, but this is more policy-driven, emotion-based reactions, that I guess include calls for changing the law or interpreting it differently.

[Logan]

Baylor admits to "directly discouraging some complainants from reporting (incidents) & retaliated against one for reporting sexual assault"

— Brett McMurphy (@McMurphyESPN) May 26, 2016

[murrayyyyy]

Somehow I think this Pepper Hamilton report is going to be much much worse than people think.

[MacroGuru]

Just from reading the broad strokes on it that I have seen...it's very damning for Briles and his staff.

If any of them coach again, it will be to soon.

[Atocep]

I don't see Briles landing another D1 head coaching job. The best he can probably do is sit out a couple of years and get a non P5 OC job.

Any AD that even throws his name in for consideration should be fired.

[cartman]

Originally Posted by murrayyyyy

Somehow I think this Pepper Hamilton report is going to be much much worse than people think.

Here's the 'Findings of Fact' document.

http://www.baylor.edu/rtsv/doc.php/266596.pdf