NHL draft Day(s) thread - Page 2

Arctic Blast · 06-20-2008, 08:01 PM

Toronto threw in their 2nd AND 3rd rounders for next year to move up 2 spots.

Arctic Blast · 06-20-2008, 08:13 PM

RJ Umberger is a Blue Jacket, Philly gets pick #19.

Maple Leafs · 06-20-2008, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Arctic Blast

Toronto threw in their 2nd AND 3rd rounders for next year to move up 2 spots.

Steep, but apparently the dropoff after pick five (or six, depending on Filatov) was a big one.

Pyser · 06-20-2008, 08:23 PM

didnt philly get umberger as a fa? thats a pretty nice turnaround.

DeToxRox · 06-20-2008, 08:47 PM

Kyle Beach, love this kid. Sorry CR

Logan · 06-20-2008, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyser

didnt philly get umberger as a fa? thats a pretty nice turnaround.

Yeah, because Sather didn't sign him (thanks to Burke not signing him).

Dr. Sak · 06-20-2008, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Arctic Blast

RJ Umberger is a Blue Jacket, Philly gets pick #19.

That bums me out. He was my favorite player.

Galaxy · 06-20-2008, 09:45 PM

Just got home. The Sabres picked up 6'7'' D Tyler Myers. Any thoughts on him? Why did they trade up one spot? What did they give up?

Dr. Sak · 06-20-2008, 09:53 PM

Devils trade their first round pick for 12,000 fans to sit in their seats next season.

MrBug708 · 06-20-2008, 10:09 PM

Kings pick up two defenseman who are both touted as the next Chris Pronger

bhlloy · 06-20-2008, 10:14 PM

I'd have much rather had Camalleri straight up than two low first rounders in a weak draft. Another odd move by Burke, unless he's trying to get fired so he can go to the Leafs.

Dr. Sak · 06-20-2008, 10:14 PM

So they will sleep with a anchorwoman then have their wives tell them they have to move to another city?

Galaxy · 06-20-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

I'd have much rather had Camalleri straight up than two low first rounders in a weak draft. Another odd move by Burke, unless he's trying to get fired so he can go to the Leafs.

A weak draft? Isn't this suppose to be one of the deepest drafts in quite some time?

Danny · 06-20-2008, 10:28 PM

Cammalleri is a good offensive player, but he's only a one-way player and doesn't really help a team like the Kings as much who have weak goaltending. And he was unhappy and out of here after the season anyway. He's a better fit on the Flames, and it was a good move for them.

Dr. Sak · 06-20-2008, 10:40 PM

Flyers trade their 27th overall pick for Steve Eminger and a pick in the 3rd round.

Dr. Sak · 06-20-2008, 10:44 PM

Viktor Tikhonov's grandson gets picked by Phoenix.

Young Drachma · 06-20-2008, 10:50 PM

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Off the top of my head, I can't think too far back...but just from TSN's flash of past #1 picks, the NHL might have the best track record when it comes to top overall picks turning into superstars.

Best development system any of the major four leagues too. I don't even mean the minors, but the juniors, international and all of that, there are ample places for players to go to get high quality talent to play and to develop. Teams may still rush players, but there isn't a real need to as much as in the other sports.

Not as much hype and press coverage in the US for players coming up, helps blot out the white noise too.

Chief Rum · 06-20-2008, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyser

arctic, complain about the kings goalie situation all you want. everyone here does.

doesnt mean its been fixed in 10 years of complaining, though.

The Hockey News draft preview called the Kings' search for a goalie the "40-year Search for a #1", lol.

Chief Rum · 06-20-2008, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Arctic Blast

Maple Leafs : Florida also got a 2nd rounder in that deal. Maybe a bit of a surprise, yeah, but Ballard is a pretty nice player. Boynton's a spare part, though, at least I think so.

Pyser : Yeah, it has been awhile, hasn't it? Is Bernier looking like he could be the real deal?

And, finally, my God...let's have the NHL go the NFL route, and the commissioner just makes the pick and trade announcement, rather than these neverending blathering speeches from team reps!

The Kings actually have some solid young netminder talent in the system, but none of them have proven they are ready yet.

Chief Rum · 06-20-2008, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Kyle Beach, love this kid. Sorry CR

'S'All right, I knew we didn't have a good shot at him at #12 (which was true), and then when we dropped to #17, no way. I'll be watching to see how he does.

Chief Rum · 06-20-2008, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Arctic Blast

Toronto threw in their 2nd AND 3rd rounders for next year to move up 2 spots.

Word is Burkey threw his clipboard at the stage when he heard that news.

Chief Rum · 06-20-2008, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

I'd have much rather had Camalleri straight up than two low first rounders in a weak draft. Another odd move by Burke, unless he's trying to get fired so he can go to the Leafs.

Well, not a weak draft, actually. By most reports the deepest draft in years. And we can't fit Cammy under our cap anyway and expect to keep Perry. I would rather have Perry.

BTW, the Niedermayer clan got one bigger tonight. Scotty and wife Lisa have #4, Luke Scott Niedermayer. Future team captain in the making.

Chief Rum · 06-20-2008, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bsak16

So they will sleep with a anchorwoman then have their wives tell them they have to move to another city?

Come on, have you ever met an anchorwoman you wouldn't consider banging? Even the old ones are cougars. And I hear you know a thing or two about cougars.

Chief Rum · 06-20-2008, 11:41 PM

So Burke traded again, and now has three second rounders to go with three third rounders. The goal is to end up with 500 ninth round picks.

Dr. Sak · 06-20-2008, 11:41 PM

Rawr!

JonInMiddleGA · 06-20-2008, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Arctic Blast

Geez, I forgot all about Patrick Stefan...not that it was hard to forget him.

Tell me about it

Suburban Rhythm · 06-21-2008, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Arctic Blast

RJ Umberger is a Blue Jacket, Philly gets pick #19.

Doesn't he realize he'll only play Pittsburgh like once/twice a year now?

Also PING duff88-

Thoughts on Jared Staal? I keep seeing things about him being as talented as the othe brothers, but I just don't see it.

Draft Dodger · 06-21-2008, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Pyser

this is exactly why the kings are fucking trash.

if you believe the rumor, they could have had malkin for cammellerri and the #2. instead they trade a guy 1 year past an 80 point season on a crap team for a prospect.

no one believes that rumor though

duff88 · 06-21-2008, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

Doesn't he realize he'll only play Pittsburgh like once/twice a year now?

Also PING duff88-

Thoughts on Jared Staal? I keep seeing things about him being as talented as the othe brothers, but I just don't see it.

Jared could be worth a 6th-7th round pick. The thing about being more talented started when his father said the best of the brothers was the youngest, but he was actually talking about Jordan and it kinda started a huge misunderstanding.

Jared is huge, but he's an awful skater. That said, he got better through the year and I think he may have what it takes to be a journeyman. But his skating is really bad.

EDIT: Staal got picked by Phoenix right as I was posting this. Here's a website to follow the upcoming rounds:

http://www.nhlentrydraft2008.com/sel...t.aspx?round=2

Tekneek · 06-21-2008, 10:46 AM

Jared Staal has a chance. It wouldn't be the first time a player was drafted more because of his bloodline than what he has demonstrated so far.

Suburban Rhythm · 06-21-2008, 11:18 AM

Thanks guys...one more.

Any sleeper types you like who will be around late rounds, since the Pens don't have a pick until the 4th round.

And this cracked me up, the Isles pick of Petrov--

NY Islanders (from Edmonton via NY Islanders, Edmonton, Anaheim)

So EDM and NYI each held this pick twice?!

Arctic Blast · 06-21-2008, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Well, not a weak draft, actually. By most reports the deepest draft in years. And we can't fit Cammy under our cap anyway and expect to keep Perry. I would rather have Perry.

BTW, the Niedermayer clan got one bigger tonight. Scotty and wife Lisa have #4, Luke Scott Niedermayer. Future team captain in the making.

Just wondering, Chief, but has Scott announced his intentions to play.not play next year, yet?

Chief Rum · 06-22-2008, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Arctic Blast

Just wondering, Chief, but has Scott announced his intentions to play.not play next year, yet?

No, he hasn't. Burke gave him a deadline of the draft, but then extended it through the weekend because of Scotty's kid being born. So expect to hear a decision Monday.

Teemu is also expected to provide an answer by free agency (although Burke can't compel him like Nieds, as Teemu is technically an UFA), and Nieds decision will likely again impact Teemu's decision.

sterlingice · 06-22-2008, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Kyle Beach, love this kid. Sorry CR

From what I've read, awesome talent but crazy. What's the real deal?

SI

DeToxRox · 06-22-2008, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice

From what I've read, awesome talent but crazy. What's the real deal?

SI

Lot of run in's on and off the ice. He is basically Sean Avery lite. He will take cheap shots, start a lot of fights and talk a lot of shit. His most renowned incident was calling a kid born with curveature of the spine a Hunchback. He said he didn't know he had a disease and apologized for it but it left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths.

samifan24 · 06-22-2008, 11:42 PM

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His most renowned incident was calling a kid born with curveature of the spine a Hunchback. He said he didn't know he had a disease and apologized for it but it left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths.

That kid was Milan Lucic. I can't wait for Lucic to beat Beach's ass this season.

RomaGoth · 06-23-2008, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Lot of run in's on and off the ice. He is basically Sean Avery lite. He will take cheap shots, start a lot of fights and talk a lot of shit. His most renowned incident was calling a kid born with curveature of the spine a Hunchback. He said he didn't know he had a disease and apologized for it but it left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths.

Sounds like a guy who will be pummeled regularly in the NHL.

Chief Rum · 06-24-2008, 02:14 AM

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Sounds like a guy who will be pummeled regularly in the NHL.

Except he's pretty huge. And it sounds like he's mean, too.

06-20-2008, 11:41 PM	#74
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	So Burke traded again, and now has three second rounders to go with three third rounders. The goal is to end up with 500 ninth round picks. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

06-21-2008, 11:18 AM	#81
Suburban Rhythm Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pittsburgh	Thanks guys...one more. Any sleeper types you like who will be around late rounds, since the Pens don't have a pick until the 4th round. And this cracked me up, the Isles pick of Petrov-- NY Islanders (from Edmonton via NY Islanders, Edmonton, Anaheim) So EDM and NYI each held this pick twice?! __________________ "Do you guys play fast tempos with odd time signatures?" "Yeah" "Cool!!"

06-20-2008, 08:13 PM	#52
Arctic Blast n00b Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Leduc, Alberta, Canada	RJ Umberger is a Blue Jacket, Philly gets pick #19.

06-20-2008, 08:23 PM	#54
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	didnt philly get umberger as a fa? thats a pretty nice turnaround.

06-20-2008, 08:47 PM	#55
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Kyle Beach, love this kid. Sorry CR

06-20-2008, 09:45 PM	#58
Galaxy Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2005	Just got home. The Sabres picked up 6'7'' D Tyler Myers. Any thoughts on him? Why did they trade up one spot? What did they give up?

06-20-2008, 09:53 PM	#59
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Devils trade their first round pick for 12,000 fans to sit in their seats next season.

06-20-2008, 10:09 PM	#60
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Kings pick up two defenseman who are both touted as the next Chris Pronger

06-20-2008, 10:14 PM	#61
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	I'd have much rather had Camalleri straight up than two low first rounders in a weak draft. Another odd move by Burke, unless he's trying to get fired so he can go to the Leafs.

06-20-2008, 10:28 PM	#64
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Cammalleri is a good offensive player, but he's only a one-way player and doesn't really help a team like the Kings as much who have weak goaltending. And he was unhappy and out of here after the season anyway. He's a better fit on the Flames, and it was a good move for them.

06-20-2008, 10:40 PM	#65
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Flyers trade their 27th overall pick for Steve Eminger and a pick in the 3rd round.

06-20-2008, 10:44 PM	#66
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Viktor Tikhonov's grandson gets picked by Phoenix.

06-21-2008, 10:46 AM	#80
Tekneek Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: USA	Jared Staal has a chance. It wouldn't be the first time a player was drafted more because of his bloodline than what he has demonstrated so far.

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