Movie Sequels that need to die in a fire.

[larrymcg421]

Originally Posted by sabotai

Nightmare on Elm Street 2

They completely changed Freddie in that one! They went back to him killing kids in their dreams in the third one.

+1

I only liked the sequels that Wes Craven and Heather Langenkamp were involved in.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by Mustang

Halloween 3 - Season of the Witch. I watched this when I was 12 and remember thinking 'What the fuck does this have to do with anything before it?'

I actually might have said what the fuck...

I pondered the same thing when I saw it at the age. I was very confused. That movie was just gross and stupid. The people's heads turning into custard and bugs was disgusting and dumb.

I saw that movie a lot when I was a kid, but probably haven't seen it in over 20+ years. No desire to.

[sterlingice]

I knew this sounded familiar:

Worst Sequel of All Time - Front Office Football Central
Movie sequels that should never have been - Front Office Football Central

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[stevew]

It was really intended to just be a thread bashing the decision to sequelize donny darko, and nothing more.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by stevew

It was really intended to just be a thread bashing the decision to sequelize donny darko, and nothing more.

Hrmm...

Perhaps the thread could have used a better title then, like... "Donnie Darko Sequel? WTF?!?!" or "OMG!! Donnie Darko Sequel?" or "How do you make a f*cking sequel of Donnie Darko?"

Something a little more definitive like that.

[Bad-example]

Originally Posted by stevew

It was really intended to just be a thread bashing the decision to sequelize donny darko, and nothing more.

Donnie Darko belongs in a "movies so terrible they didn't deserve a sequel" thread.

Honestly, that movie sucked balls.

[BrianD]

Originally Posted by Mustang

Halloween 3 - Season of the Witch. I watched this when I was 12 and remember thinking 'What the fuck does this have to do with anything before it?'

I actually might have said what the fuck...

I was just going to mention this one. We rented the first 3 movies (which were the only ones out at the time) for a movie marathon. Imagine our disappointment when we got to number 3.

[Drake]

The best thing about the Chronicles of Riddick was that it brought Alexa Davalos to my attention.

Alexa Davalos

[ntndeacon]

BTW the plural of Matrix----Matrices...

Also. this may not count as it isn't a sequal but a horrible re imagining of the original...
The Incredible Shrinking Woman

Which they plan on re do ing yet again with Eddie Murphy.

Thoe Original 1957 Sci Fi classic should be seen by all. Nothing funny in it. of course the same could be said for the Lily Tomlin movie and I imagine the same will be true with the Eddie Murphy Movie. those weren't funny either. Of Course they were TRYING to be.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Bad-example

Donnie Darko belongs in a "movies so terrible they didn't deserve a sequel" thread.

Honestly, that movie sucked balls.

Word. It was like a whiny, angsty teen version of a mediocre Outer Limits episode.

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[Karlifornia]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

Word. It was like a whiny, angsty teen version of a mediocre Outer Limits episode.

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Well, there will always be whiny, angsty teens, so I suppose there inlies the reason it was made.

It's kind of like saying the Jonas Brothers shouldn't exist. Why shouldn't they? There's a market for them.

[DataKing]

Oooh I've got one that hasn't been mentioned yet.

"Escape from LA" anyone?

[path12]

Hot Bubble Asses #23 had little of the character development seen in the first 22. Plus the asses weren't that hot and frankly not that bubbly.

[JediKooter]

Originally Posted by DataKing

Oooh I've got one that hasn't been mentioned yet.

"Escape from LA" anyone?

Good pick. The surfing scene was painful to watch.

[Groundhog]

Originally Posted by sterlingice

I think these movies are so unfairly maligned. This goes for the 2nd and 3rd Pirates of the Caribbean movies, too, and I think there are a lot of parallels.

Are they as good as the first: no. Both first movies were uniquely high quality movie experiences. Is the movie world better for them having been made? Yes. In one series (Matrix), you have to explain the unexplainable while in the other (Pirates), you have to expand a universe that is probably too small to expand. Unfortunately, due to sequel-itis, the sequels aren't edited nearly as well as the originals so the flow isn't quite right. And most importantly, for this argument, the pedigree was too difficult to live up to. Reloaded still has, to this day, the best action sequence in any move I've ever seen.

Completely disagree. I think the Matrix 1 is a very good movie. I'm not a fanboy or anything, I just think it's a solid idea, good story, great action scenes, and great ending.

Numbers 2 and 3 on the other hand, bad b-grade sci-fi plot, some absolutely TERRIBLE acting from some usually solid actors, and they managed to even affect how much I enjoy the first one. 2 is definitely better than 3, but to me they both sucked SERIOUS ass.

[larrymcg421]

Reloaded has some great action scenes, but also some terrible dialogue and a bizaare soft core porn opening. Revolutions is a fucking mess without any positives.

[sterlingice]

Yeah, the cheesy softcore scene in Reloaded never made any sense to me

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[bulletsponge]

the new star trek movie coming out. im confident it will be star trek 90210 with a stereotypical badboy/rebel cpt Kirk. well this is my assumption just from the commercials ive seen

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by bulletsponge

the new star trek movie coming out. im confident it will be star trek 90210 with a stereotypical badboy/rebel cpt Kirk. well this is my assumption just from the commercials ive seen

I'm looking forward to it. I think it looks decent. It doesn't have to be that good to be better than most of the other Star Trek films.

[Groundhog]

Early reviews are positive for both the new Star Trek and the Wolverine movie.

[Crim]

Originally Posted by Kodos

Indiana Jones 4, Terminator 3.

Bullshit there have only been three Indiana Jones movies. And yes, I agree that Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls was not good.

[Crim]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Spider-Man 3.

X-Men 3.

Superman III and IV.

Ouch. Hard to argue with those.

[Crim]

Originally Posted by Bad-example

Malcolm X

Hated it but to be fair I never saw any of the first nine.

laughed out loud

[Crim]

Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

I'm not a big fan of the Star Wars prequels, but my kids prefer them to the originals.

Yeah, so, I'm afraid we're gonna hafta get that dad card from you.

[larrymcg421]

Speed 2 is an excellent choice. An action movie on a cruise ship? What were they thinking?

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by Crim

Bullshit there have only been three Indiana Jones movies.

Bullshit, there have only been two Indiana Jones movies!

[stevew]

The last third of Indy 4 ruined what otherwise would have been an acceptable sequel. Or whenever Marion was reintroduced. Maybe that was more like half

[ntndeacon]

Airplane 2

[Bad-example]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

Airplane 2

No.

[chesapeake]

Originally Posted by DanGarion

Are you sure he actually left it out? I think that is the way the movie was...

I can assure you that I never, ever saw the film again, so I cannot say anything for sure. And it was about 20 years ago. But the psychic wound from Highlander 2 still seeps.

[Autumn]

Highlander 2 wins hands down. The rest are only interesting debate for 2nd place.

[PraetorianX]

I think that if the Star Wars prequels had been made directly after the original trilogy, they'd be just as revered as the originals. But since it was 20 some years later, everybody considers them a letdown.

I think they were good, not great, but good. The only problem I had with them went by the name of Jar Jar Binks. The dialogue and acting and such however, is no worse than the originals (save for that abomination, of course)

[cthomer5000]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

I didn't really mind T3. I think I was in a pretty good mood that day. I really like how it ended. I didn't see that coming and thought it was great.

T3 was enjoyable, i'm with you man. It is the definition of a movie i find "surprisingly entertaining." I expected it to shit on the Terminator name, but in the end felt it did absolutely no harm even though it probably didn't add anything.

And i consider the first two Terminators probably among the 100 best movies ever

[Young Drachma]

Up or down?

[Karlifornia]

It could be way worse, I suppose. Pass.

[cthomer5000]

The Karate Kid ...set in China. Am I crazy or is there a giant red flag right there? Not to mention the "hey, im the son of famous people!" casting decision.

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by cthomer5000

The Karate Kid ...set in China. Am I crazy or is there a giant red flag right there? Not to mention the "hey, im the son of famous people!" casting decision.

Not really a "famous kid" casting decision. More like, "my dad owns the production company that co-produced the movie." Maybe the same thought, but...I dunno, if Jaden Smith wasn't going to be in it, Overbook doesn't sign on to produce the movie and the movie isn't made.

[cthomer5000]

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

if Jaden Smith wasn't going to be in it, Overbook doesn't sign on to produce the movie and the movie isn't made.

I'm not hearing a negative here.

[Young Drachma]

Originally Posted by cthomer5000

I'm not hearing a negative here.

Yeah, I know. But no one cares if traditionalists like it. It's all about dollars, yo.

I think Jackie Chan + Will Smith connection = Will make it's money back on kids and people who'll go see it to complain.

[weegeebored]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Oh, duh.

Star Wars Episodes I-III.

While techniquely "prequels", they are still easily among the worst things ever.

An absolutely sickening way to complete the franchise. Lucas should have listened to SW fans and created the Thrawn Trilogy.

[weegeebored]

Originally Posted by PraetorianX

The dialogue and acting and such however, is no worse than the originals (save for that abomination, of course)

You must have completely purged Hayden Christensen's scenes from your memory.

[Mustang]

Originally Posted by cthomer5000

The Karate Kid ...set in China. Am I crazy or is there a giant red flag right there?

Yes, there is a giant red flag there.

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by weegeebored

An absolutely sickening way to complete the franchise. Lucas should have listened to SW fans and created the Thrawn Trilogy.

Only if he let other people write the script, pick the actors, direct the movie and edit the final version.

[Autumn]

Originally Posted by sabotai

Only if he let other people write the script, pick the actors, direct the movie and edit the final version.

I'm with you there. I give Lucas mad props for his original concept of the Star Wars story, but it would work much better if he would step back and produce I think.

[weegeebored]

Originally Posted by sabotai

Only if he let other people write the script, pick the actors, direct the movie and edit the final version.

I don't disagree with you there. I'm sure that Kasdan or even Zahn himself would have written a good screenplay. I was also thinking the same main cast (obviously not now) and somebody cool to play Mara Jade. And if those movies could/would be made now then who? But that's another poll question -- would SW fans want to see the franchise post Episode VI continued with new actors?

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by Autumn

I'm with you there. I give Lucas mad props for his original concept of the Star Wars story, but it would work much better if he would step back and produce I think.

I credit him for the concept of Star Wars, too. People (in general, not you specifically.....warning rant incoming!!) give him too much credit for the quality of the original trilogy, though. He did the leg work for Star Wars, but that was before all of his success (before he thought every idea he had was great), working with a limited budget, and was the one he was influenced by other sources the most. On Empire, the one most seem to like the most, he did the least amount of work on. Someone else directed, he wrote the story but others wrote the actual screenplay. His main credit for Empire was "Executive Producer"...we all know what that really means. I'm sure he was a hands-on Executive Producer, but an EP all the same. With Return of the Jedi, he started taking on more roles again as he wrote the screenplay with someone else (but someone else directed).

With the prequels, he took on all of the legwork again, and the quality of acting by otherwise fine actors and the quality of the screenplay really showed. (In that, they both lacked quality).

I have not seen the latest Indiana Jones movie, but going by the reaction to it by most people, I wonder if we would have gotten a much better Indiana Jones movie had they made the one that Lucas rejected, but both Ford and Spielberg signed off on.

[stevew]

In the Name of The King....2?

I hope Ray Liotta is in this one.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by stevew

In the Name of The King....2?

I hope Ray Liotta is in this one.

It made just over $13 million worldwide. Budget was $60 million. Um...

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by sabotai

I have not seen the latest Indiana Jones movie

I have now....and it was worse than I could have possibly imagined.

[Autumn]

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