Soccer Thread 2015-16 - Page 2

The Jackal · 07-16-2015, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar v2

You don't leave a team in the Champions League for a team that isn't and likely won't be for a long time.

Sorry, I'm an Arsenal fan. But I still don't think they'll pay what Lyon is rumored to be asking for him, nor do I know if he's worth it.

MIJB#19 · 07-17-2015, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sovereignstar v2

You don't leave a team in the Champions League for a team that isn't and likely won't be for a long time.

Unless they have a lot of money. Just look at Manchester City until roughly 4 seasons ago.

whomario · 07-17-2015, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Grover

Yep.

This is what I said to Jackal after why he asked me why I thought it would be a bad move.

"Style. He's too much of a target man. They don't need someone who can hold up play. They need someone incisive, can run the channels, challenge defenders with the ball at their feet. He's a much more talented Carroll"

I actually think it jives pretty well with the Firmino signing, who is a real scoring threat and IMO was always at his best with Hoffenheim when paired with some sort of target man like player. The same could be said for Sturridge, imo.

Grover · 07-17-2015, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by whomario

I actually think it jives pretty well with the Firmino signing, who is a real scoring threat and IMO was always at his best with Hoffenheim when paired with some sort of target man like player. The same could be said for Sturridge, imo.

I've not seen enough of Firmino to comment, but I thought Sturridge played his best with Suarez, who was more of that 'trequarista' floating striker role. I haven't seen him paired particularly well with either Carroll when he was at Pool or with Lambert last year, which was an unmitigated disaster of £4m.

bob · 07-17-2015, 12:37 PM

The USMNT never plays in Atlanta, so I finally bought Gold Cup semifinal tickets. So now you know who to blame if they lose to Cuba.

Grover · 07-17-2015, 03:41 PM

Fabian Delph really makes himself unlikeable with his sudden turn on Aston Villa. £8m for him seems criminally low, based on the prices English players go for in England, but that's Villa's own fault

Neuqua · 07-17-2015, 05:24 PM

MLS makes an offer to Drogba to come stateside.

ISiddiqui · 07-17-2015, 05:26 PM

Looks like Chicago Fire are in the lead if he comes to MLS. You'd really think a Chicago based MLS team could do better, but the management has really screwed things up for the Fire.

miami_fan · 07-18-2015, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Grover

Fabian Delph really makes himself unlikeable with his sudden turn on Aston Villa. £8m for him seems criminally low, based on the prices English players go for in England, but that's Villa's own fault

I get what DeAndre... I mean Fabian is doing. I don't know how much he will actually play but he is in the Champions League.

If I am a Villa fan, I am wondering if Micah Richards is a double agent.

Neuqua · 07-18-2015, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Looks like Chicago Fire are in the lead if he comes to MLS. You'd really think a Chicago based MLS team could do better, but the management has really screwed things up for the Fire.

It's pathetic. The city loves soccer, we fill up soldier field/Millenium Park any time the US teams are playing big games. But the management is just inept and clueless on how to generate interest in the team. Not to mention it's way too difficult to get to the stadium via public transit from down town.

If I didn't have such a good relationship with my ticket rep, and was able to profit off flipping tickets, I would not keep renewing my season tickets every year.

cubboyroy1826 · 07-18-2015, 10:34 AM

Hey Neuqua where abouts are your tickets?

Neuqua · 07-18-2015, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by cubboyroy1826

Hey Neuqua where abouts are your tickets?

Section 209 this past season. I like being able to see the whole field of play.

Grover · 07-18-2015, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan

I get what DeAndre... I mean Fabian is doing. I don't know how much he will actually play but he is in the Champions League.

If I am a Villa fan, I am wondering if Micah Richards is a double agent.

I get it too, but it's pretty awful. Especially with how strongly he came out about wanting to stay.

I wonder how much of it has to do with Benteke's exit. Delph sees the team's best attacking option leave, great time to jump ship.

bob · 07-18-2015, 05:57 PM

Ok, so Cuba just isn't very good. Defections or not.

RainMaker · 07-18-2015, 06:37 PM

Am I wrong in thinking Bradley isn't that good anymore?

miami_fan · 07-18-2015, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Am I wrong in thinking Bradley isn't that good anymore?

I don't follow USMNT as closely as I should but I was surprised to see him getting so far up the field. I always thought he was more of a deep lying playmaker role.

MrBug708 · 07-18-2015, 08:34 PM

Jurgy keeps playing him out of position. Bradley was too unselfish today. A few too many passes

kingfc22 · 07-19-2015, 10:08 PM

This Mexico/Costa Rica match has been really, really entertaining.

BishopMVP · 07-19-2015, 10:10 PM

Mexico/Costa Rica extra time going on... Go Costa Rica I guess? Nearly an insane finish by Joel Campbell, but still 0-0 and PK's looking likely.

Btw, I'm wondering if Mexican fans are equally upset as USWNT fans that Adidas went with neon green & black uniforms instead of the iconic tri-color scheme.

kingfc22 · 07-19-2015, 10:20 PM

You call that in minute 120+??? Wow. Come on.

PilotMan · 07-19-2015, 10:21 PM

That was heinous. Way to ruin the entire effort by CR.

PilotMan · 07-19-2015, 10:22 PM

Talk about a cheap win. I'd be pissed as hell too.

BishopMVP · 07-19-2015, 10:24 PM

Oh my god. I can only imagine the outrage if that happened in a WC or Euro knockout game.

Ref's lucky the game isn't in Costa Rica... <5% chance he'd make it out of the stadium alive.

RainMaker · 07-19-2015, 10:25 PM

CONCACAF needs ratings and ticket sales

Easy Mac · 07-19-2015, 10:25 PM

No way the US would ever get that call in CONCACAF.

kingfc22 · 07-19-2015, 10:26 PM

That is just brutal. Don't care that Mexico won, but come on. You can't end a game like that.

cartman · 07-19-2015, 10:27 PM

I think El Chapo got access to the ref's earpiece.

bhlloy · 07-19-2015, 10:28 PM

I'm not sure it wasn't the US linesman that called it, given that all the Costa Rican players wanted to kill him

BishopMVP · 07-19-2015, 10:33 PM

Good points by the studio - as bad as the specific call was, Peralta was the one who probably should've been given a Red Card 10 minutes earlier, and there's really no reason for that much extra time. Brutal.

bhlloy · 07-19-2015, 10:36 PM

Yeah, the extra two minutes is really hard to swallow. That never gets called in extra time unless somebody had a serious injury on the field.

ISiddiqui · 07-20-2015, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

I'm not sure it wasn't the US linesman that called it, given that all the Costa Rican players wanted to kill him

Yep, it was the US linesman it looks like. Another brick in the conspiracy theories (US and Mexico gets Concacaf more moolah).

HomerSimpson98 · 07-20-2015, 10:49 AM

Yikes. In their defense, I thought it was a blatant penalty when watching it live. I thought the defender yanked the Mexico player backwards when he went up for what looked like a cross he could have gotten too. Replays obviously proved me wrong.

Bobble · 07-20-2015, 11:22 AM

I wasn't watching it live. I only sought it out after you guys talked about it here. Has global soccer become so ... cheaty that the Mexican player would rather dive in the box than actually take a shot? Ugh! Something has to be done. Instant replay, post-match red cards, something.

ISiddiqui · 07-20-2015, 11:48 AM

I don't think it was a dive at all.. the Mexican player right leg obviously hits the Costa Rican player's shin as the Mexican player is going up for the ball, which throws the Mexican player off balance... but its not a penalty... but in real time I could imagine it'd be seen that way.

Grover · 07-21-2015, 06:56 AM

Steve Bruce is threatening to quit Hull if he's not given reassurances in the transfer policy about bringing in players to keep the club in contention to get promoted back to the Premier League.

I have to laugh at this because Bruce was allowed to spend a ridiculous amount of money over the last two years. Last year, after all ins and outs the 'net spend' for Hull City was £25M. Yeah, the tv money was rolling in, but that's still a significant amount of money for a team that was in the bottom quadrant the year before.

What does Steve Bruce expect? You spend 25M, get relegated and then have the gall to ask for millions more to try and get the club back up immediately? If I were Hull, I'd let him walk. He's never proven to be anything other than a 14-20th placed manager in the Prem.

ISiddiqui · 07-21-2015, 10:03 AM

Woot! Mike Ashley is actually, somewhat stunningly, spending money on Newcastle United. Like McLaren has some voodoo stuff going on. First Wijnaldum and now Mitrovic. This is what it feels like to have some hope...

Grover · 07-21-2015, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ISiddiqui

Woot! Mike Ashley is actually, somewhat stunningly, spending money on Newcastle United. Like McLaren has some voodoo stuff going on. First Wijnaldum and now Mitrovic. This is what it feels like to have some hope...

Not to knock you down, but he did do the same thing when Chunky first arrived

It's interesting in that Ashley will buy quality players, but then the rot starts to set in and he stops buying for a few years. It's a strange policy, if he kept the investment up for 3-4 years consistently, Newcastle would have a very strong squad.

ISiddiqui · 07-21-2015, 11:06 AM

Yeah, but Pardew had a few great seasons early on, so that's fun to look forward to

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miami_fan · 07-21-2015, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Grover

Not to knock you down, but he did do the same thing when Chunky first arrived

This was my initial reaction as well!

Maybe just maybe Ashley has gotten the message that the opportunity to have a mid-table season and a cup run or two is the least he can give the Toon army.

ISiddiqui · 07-21-2015, 01:33 PM

Well, he may have gotten somewhat afraid about the potential for relegation and the revenue loss that would have led to. Far better to be comfortably mid-table.

MrBug708 · 07-22-2015, 06:42 PM

RainMaker · 07-22-2015, 06:42 PM

Can someone get Tim Howard out of retirement?

MrBug708 · 07-22-2015, 06:50 PM

Neither goals were Guzan's fault. Well, giving up the free kick was.

Bradley, Beckerman, and Brooks have been atrocious

RainMaker · 07-22-2015, 06:53 PM

Giving up that free kick was a pretty big deal.

RainMaker · 07-22-2015, 07:11 PM

Boy they needed that

RainMaker · 07-22-2015, 07:57 PM

When does the transformation of US soccer under Klinnsmann begin?

Easy Mac · 07-22-2015, 07:58 PM

Needs to be fired. If Bradley for fired for losing in the finals of the Gold Cup, Klinnsmann needs to go now.

rowech · 07-22-2015, 07:59 PM

I've defended him but agree. Team is way too inconsistent and is flat out dreadful at times. Time for him to go with time until qualifying.

bob · 07-22-2015, 08:45 PM

US soccer - if our first touch wasn't bad, don't worry, our second one is coming up

cubboyroy1826 · 07-22-2015, 09:34 PM

Not sure if it is the players picked for the team, a lack of interest on the players or lack of any game plan from Klinsman. Almost looks like Klinsmann felt he just needed to roll the ball out there and let the boys recreate.

07-17-2015, 03:41 PM	#56
Grover Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Lisboa, ME	Fabian Delph really makes himself unlikeable with his sudden turn on Aston Villa. £8m for him seems criminally low, based on the prices English players go for in England, but that's Villa's own fault __________________ Come On You Irons! West Ham United \| Philadelphia Flyers \| Cincinnati Bengals \| Kansas City Royals FOFC Greatest Band Draft Runner Up FOFC Movie Remake Draft Winner FOFC Movie Comedy Draft Winner

07-17-2015, 05:24 PM	#57
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07-17-2015, 05:26 PM	#58
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Looks like Chicago Fire are in the lead if he comes to MLS. You'd really think a Chicago based MLS team could do better, but the management has really screwed things up for the Fire. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-19-2015, 10:08 PM	#68
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	This Mexico/Costa Rica match has been really, really entertaining. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

07-19-2015, 10:20 PM	#70
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	You call that in minute 120+??? Wow. Come on. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

07-17-2015, 12:37 PM	#55
bob College Starter Join Date: Oct 2004	The USMNT never plays in Atlanta, so I finally bought Gold Cup semifinal tickets. So now you know who to blame if they lose to Cuba.

07-18-2015, 10:34 AM	#61
cubboyroy1826 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2002	Hey Neuqua where abouts are your tickets?

07-18-2015, 05:57 PM	#64
bob College Starter Join Date: Oct 2004	Ok, so Cuba just isn't very good. Defections or not.

07-18-2015, 06:37 PM	#65
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Am I wrong in thinking Bradley isn't that good anymore?

07-18-2015, 08:34 PM	#67
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Jurgy keeps playing him out of position. Bradley was too unselfish today. A few too many passes

07-19-2015, 10:10 PM	#69
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	Mexico/Costa Rica extra time going on... Go Costa Rica I guess? Nearly an insane finish by Joel Campbell, but still 0-0 and PK's looking likely. Btw, I'm wondering if Mexican fans are equally upset as USWNT fans that Adidas went with neon green & black uniforms instead of the iconic tri-color scheme.

07-19-2015, 10:21 PM	#71
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07-19-2015, 10:22 PM	#72
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Talk about a cheap win. I'd be pissed as hell too. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

07-19-2015, 10:24 PM	#73
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	Oh my god. I can only imagine the outrage if that happened in a WC or Euro knockout game. Ref's lucky the game isn't in Costa Rica... <5% chance he'd make it out of the stadium alive.

07-19-2015, 10:25 PM	#74
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	CONCACAF needs ratings and ticket sales

07-19-2015, 10:25 PM	#75
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	No way the US would ever get that call in CONCACAF.

07-19-2015, 10:26 PM	#76
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	That is just brutal. Don't care that Mexico won, but come on. You can't end a game like that. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

07-19-2015, 10:27 PM	#77
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	I think El Chapo got access to the ref's earpiece. __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

07-19-2015, 10:28 PM	#78
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	I'm not sure it wasn't the US linesman that called it, given that all the Costa Rican players wanted to kill him

07-19-2015, 10:33 PM	#79
BishopMVP Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Concord, MA/UMass	Good points by the studio - as bad as the specific call was, Peralta was the one who probably should've been given a Red Card 10 minutes earlier, and there's really no reason for that much extra time. Brutal.

07-19-2015, 10:36 PM	#80
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Yeah, the extra two minutes is really hard to swallow. That never gets called in extra time unless somebody had a serious injury on the field.

07-20-2015, 10:49 AM	#82
HomerSimpson98 High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Cowtown, TX	Yikes. In their defense, I thought it was a blatant penalty when watching it live. I thought the defender yanked the Mexico player backwards when he went up for what looked like a cross he could have gotten too. Replays obviously proved me wrong.

07-20-2015, 11:22 AM	#83
Bobble College Prospect Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: High and outside	I wasn't watching it live. I only sought it out after you guys talked about it here. Has global soccer become so ... cheaty that the Mexican player would rather dive in the box than actually take a shot? Ugh! Something has to be done. Instant replay, post-match red cards, something.

07-20-2015, 11:48 AM	#84
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	I don't think it was a dive at all.. the Mexican player right leg obviously hits the Costa Rican player's shin as the Mexican player is going up for the ball, which throws the Mexican player off balance... but its not a penalty... but in real time I could imagine it'd be seen that way. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-21-2015, 06:56 AM	#85
Grover Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Lisboa, ME	Steve Bruce is threatening to quit Hull if he's not given reassurances in the transfer policy about bringing in players to keep the club in contention to get promoted back to the Premier League. I have to laugh at this because Bruce was allowed to spend a ridiculous amount of money over the last two years. Last year, after all ins and outs the 'net spend' for Hull City was £25M. Yeah, the tv money was rolling in, but that's still a significant amount of money for a team that was in the bottom quadrant the year before. What does Steve Bruce expect? You spend 25M, get relegated and then have the gall to ask for millions more to try and get the club back up immediately? If I were Hull, I'd let him walk. He's never proven to be anything other than a 14-20th placed manager in the Prem. __________________ Come On You Irons! West Ham United \| Philadelphia Flyers \| Cincinnati Bengals \| Kansas City Royals FOFC Greatest Band Draft Runner Up FOFC Movie Remake Draft Winner FOFC Movie Comedy Draft Winner

07-21-2015, 10:03 AM	#86
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Woot! Mike Ashley is actually, somewhat stunningly, spending money on Newcastle United. Like McLaren has some voodoo stuff going on. First Wijnaldum and now Mitrovic. This is what it feels like to have some hope... __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-21-2015, 11:06 AM	#88
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Yeah, but Pardew had a few great seasons early on, so that's fun to look forward to . __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-21-2015, 01:33 PM	#90
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	Well, he may have gotten somewhat afraid about the potential for relegation and the revenue loss that would have led to. Far better to be comfortably mid-table. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

07-22-2015, 06:42 PM	#91
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Uggh

07-22-2015, 06:50 PM	#93
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Neither goals were Guzan's fault. Well, giving up the free kick was. Bradley, Beckerman, and Brooks have been atrocious

07-22-2015, 06:53 PM	#94
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Giving up that free kick was a pretty big deal.

07-22-2015, 07:11 PM	#95
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Boy they needed that

07-22-2015, 07:57 PM	#96
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	When does the transformation of US soccer under Klinnsmann begin?

07-22-2015, 07:58 PM	#97
Easy Mac Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Here	Needs to be fired. If Bradley for fired for losing in the finals of the Gold Cup, Klinnsmann needs to go now.

07-22-2015, 07:59 PM	#98
rowech Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2006	I've defended him but agree. Team is way too inconsistent and is flat out dreadful at times. Time for him to go with time until qualifying.