FOOL-Historical OOTP X Alternate History League Signup Thread (FOOL-H) - Page 2

cgould43 · 07-13-2009, 12:09 PM

Well I didn't hate the Yankees until I was born...so up until then I think it's fair game.

ekcut · 07-13-2009, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by fairly

All you Yankee haters: can I expect that you will never draft a Yankee?

They will have to take part in a deyankification program, but they can play on my team.

ekcut · 07-13-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

I can promise you that Derek Jeter and A-Rod will never be on my team. Lou Gehrig on the other hand... he wasn't evil.

And Mickey has character...you can't hate him!

gstelmack · 07-13-2009, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fairly

All you Yankee haters: can I expect that you will never draft a Yankee?

Does Babe Ruth count as a Yankee or as a Red Sox? Johnny Damon? Wade Boggs?

Of course, given that the second two were definitely modern-era traitors, I'm not sure if I'll be drafting them or not...

Alan T · 07-13-2009, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

Does Babe Ruth count as a Yankee or as a Red Sox?

Since he retired as a Boston Brave, that obviously is the answer

fairly · 07-13-2009, 12:56 PM

Hey! How about this: start in 1901, but the initial draft is players who debuted after 1999. Then bring on the rookies backwards: 1999 in 1902 1998 in 1903 etc.

ekcut · 07-13-2009, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fairly

Hey! How about this: start in 1901, but the initial draft is players who debuted after 1999. Then bring on the rookies backwards: 1999 in 1902 1998 in 1903 etc.

Or a random draft year...that way we dont know when the superstars are coming!
But if put to a vote, I'd go cronological...I still want to realive history...I just think the 1st 20 years are going to be some slim pickings talent wise.

ekcut · 07-13-2009, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ekcut

Or a random draft year...that way we dont know when the superstars are coming!
But if put to a vote, I'd go cronological...I still want to realive history...I just think the 1st 20 years are going to be some slim pickings talent wise.

Maybe in FOOL-R we'll go in reverse

spleen1015 · 07-13-2009, 01:34 PM

There was a version of the normalized Lahman database that had random debut years for all of the players. It was cool to play with the first time when you didn't know when the players were coming.

cgould43 · 07-13-2009, 01:45 PM

i'm actually playing a little random debut right now

Young Drachma · 07-14-2009, 12:45 PM

Lahman doesn't have Negro Leaguers. So we need to stick with GamboDB.

As for the start year, we can fudge that if we want. No biggie. Like 1920 instead of 1900.

We should be able to start next week, as I think we have enough owners to get going with it.

gstelmack · 07-14-2009, 12:51 PM

I thought 1901 was a nice round number to start with. It will only be four months before we hit 1920 anyway...

Young Drachma · 07-14-2009, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by gstelmack

I thought 1901 was a nice round number to start with. It will only be four months before we hit 1920 anyway...

I think that makes sense too. And from my testing, there's no talent distribution problems in the early years. All of the teams have enough players. The names aren't as familiar, but we'll be there before we know it anyway.

Alan T · 07-14-2009, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

I think that makes sense too. And from my testing, there's no talent distribution problems in the early years. All of the teams have enough players. The names aren't as familiar, but we'll be there before we know it anyway.

I think there are plenty of familiar names in the time period between 1901 - 1920. Some people just may not realize it until they start to play it!

Larry Doyle, Tris Speaker, Ty Cobb, Walter Johnson, Cy Young, Honus Wagner, Nap Lajoie, etc.

spleen1015 · 07-14-2009, 01:07 PM

1901 gets my vote if it matters.

gstelmack · 07-14-2009, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T

I think there are plenty of familiar names in the time period between 1901 - 1920. Some people just may not realize it until they start to play it!

Larry Doyle, Tris Speaker, Ty Cobb, Walter Johnson, Cy Young, Honus Wagner, Nap Lajoie, etc.

I recognize Cobb and Young!

ekcut · 07-14-2009, 01:28 PM

I've already broken out the Ken Burn's series to get me in the mood!

Montreal_GM · 07-14-2009, 01:31 PM

I'm in favor of '01 as well.

ekcut · 07-14-2009, 01:34 PM

I am in favor of a 1920 start, but 01 is TOTALLY cool with me too!

fairly · 07-14-2009, 02:43 PM

I like 1901, too. Why lop off 20% of history in a historical sim?

hyde4us11 · 07-14-2009, 05:01 PM

My thought was since we are playing with modern finances and such might as well set the stage as today. I've always wanted to play historical players in today's game. I'm totally fine with 1901 as well, but just was sharing my thought.

Tasan · 07-14-2009, 05:05 PM

'01 here.

Young Drachma · 07-14-2009, 05:31 PM

1901 it is. No contest, really. I agree with the logic of, why lop off 20% of the historical sim, because presumably, this league has an egg timer to it.

Sweet.

cmldude · 07-15-2009, 10:12 AM

Team:Pirates
City: Pittsburgh
Stadium: random

Im in if there is room, i'm at work and cant see the stadium list so i will take whatever is given

Molholt · 07-15-2009, 12:34 PM

Team: Braves
City: Atlanta
Stadium: Turner Field

Alan T · 07-15-2009, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molholt

Team: Braves
City: Atlanta
Stadium: Turner Field

I kind of had picked the Beaneaters with the idea in mind of changing their names to the Braves in the year that it actually happened historically. I guess I won't be a stick in the mud on this one, but I had hoped to follow the Braves history somewhat!

Young Drachma · 07-15-2009, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molholt

Team: Braves
City: Atlanta
Stadium: Turner Field

Atlanta is too small in 1901 to have a major league team. If you wanna stay south, Louisville has a historical claim to a major league club and had over 200k people in 1901. Here's a list of the largest cities each 20 years in the 20th century.

Montreal_GM · 07-17-2009, 11:59 AM

Are we doing an inaugural draft or random disbursement? I'd almost be in favor of a random start based on how long it would take to do a draft, but that's just me. If it is an inaugural draft do you have an idea of how we'll conduct it?

Thanks.

ekcut · 07-17-2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Montreal_GM

Are we doing an inaugural draft or random disbursement? I'd almost be in favor of a random start based on how long it would take to do a draft, but that's just me. If it is an inaugural draft do you have an idea of how we'll conduct it?

Thanks.

All other leagues have had a random draft to start. I would think it's the same.

Montreal_GM · 07-17-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ekcut

All other leagues have had a random draft to start. I would think it's the same.

True, but I recall some talk of a draft in another thread or early on in this thread, but I can't find the post.

Young Drachma · 07-17-2009, 01:14 PM

It'll be like FOOL's initial dispersal. Random draft to start, so you'll inherit your team as-is. OOTP doesn't have inaugural draft lists.

Montreal_GM · 07-17-2009, 01:18 PM

I'm pretty sure you can do an initial draft with historical leagues. Not that it matters, just saying.

Ah, draft list. Nevermind. It would be hard to conduct the draft without a list.

Alan T · 07-17-2009, 01:19 PM

I'm cool with doing the initial player allotment the same way we've always done. Within 2 months, most of those players will be gone anyways.

Young Drachma · 07-17-2009, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Montreal_GM

I'm pretty sure you can do an initial draft with historical leagues. Not that it matters, just saying.

No, it'll be a draft. It just won't be a draft where people will get to make lists, because the game doesn't support it. So I'll run the draft and then the teams will be what they are.

jimbow37 · 07-19-2009, 07:05 PM

any teams left i know yankees were a few days ago

had trouble signing up on the forums

cmldude · 07-19-2009, 09:09 PM

So do we get to start this on tuesday then? cant wait to see history come alive

fairly · 07-20-2009, 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbow37

any teams left i know yankees were a few days ago

had trouble signing up on the forums

The Yankees are still available. Are you signing up? You need to tell DC:

city (New York)
team (Yankees)
stadium (pick one)

hyde4us11 · 07-24-2009, 10:10 AM

We still a go here? Just wondering since I havent heard anything in a few days.

Alan T · 07-24-2009, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by hyde4us11

We still a go here? Just wondering since I havent heard anything in a few days.

DC hasn't been around for a little bit. I dropped him a PM to make sure everything is ok.

Young Drachma · 07-26-2009, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Sorry for the disappearance. It wasn't intentional, but my day job has been busy and I teach some weekends, so it's just been busy and I haven't allowed myself to get sucked in over here.

In any case, I should be good now...

Here is the initial league file for FOOL-H.

(http://www.seojudo.com/baseball/FOOLH.lg.zip)

You'll want to load online file once you've installed this one into your saved_games folder, because the online file has the logos and such alike.

No photos, because 1) they take up space and 2) we can go online and see what the real life guys look like. I hope that doesn't kill the immersion for some of you, but it's just the sensible way to go with this.
Here's the league lineup:

AMERICAN LEAGUE
Baltimore Orioles (spleen1015)
Boston Red Sox (gstelmack)
Chicago Whales (JetsIn06)
Detroit Tigers (allpro10500)
Louisville Colonels (Molholt)
New York Yankees (jimbow37)
Philadelphia Athletics (cgould43)
Washington Senators (Tasan)

NATONAL LEAGUE
Boston Beaneaters (Alan T)
Brooklyn Robins (fairly)
Chicago Cubs (hyde4us11)
Cincinnati Redlegs (bz)
New York Giants (ekcut)
Philadelphia Phillies (Eddie K)
Pittsburgh Pirates (cmldude)
St. Louis Cardinals (Montreal GM)

Here's the schedule:

Quote:

All exports are due by 1am ET. Sims will be run at some point between 1am and 3am ET unless otherwise noted.

Monday/Tuesday: No sim/make up day for any cancelled sim.
Wednesday: Amateur Draft
Thursday: Free Agency Day 1
Friday: Free Agency Day 2/Spring Training
Saturday: Regular Season
Sunday: Playoffs

ekcut · 07-26-2009, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud

Here is the initial league file for FOOL-H.

(http://www.seojudo.com/baseball/FOOLX.lg.zip)

You'll want to load online file once you've installed this one into your saved_games folder, because the online file has the logos and such alike.

No photos, because 1) they take up space and 2) we can go online and see what the real life guys look like. I hope that doesn't kill the immersion for some of you, but it's just the sensible way to go with this.
Here's the league lineup:

AMERICAN LEAGUE
Baltimore Orioles (spleen1015)
Boston Red Sox (gstelmack)
Chicago Whales (JetsIn06)
Detroit Tigers (allpro10500)
Louisville Colonels (Molholt)
New York Yankees (jimbow37)
Philadelphia Athletics (cgould43)
Washington Senators (Tasan)

NATONAL LEAGUE
Boston Beaneaters (Alan T)
Brooklyn Robins (fairly)
Chicago Cubs (hyde4us11)
Cincinnati Redlegs (bz)
New York Giants (ekcut)
Philadelphia Phillies (Eddie K)
Pittsburgh Pirates (cmldude)
St. Louis Cardinals (Montreal GM)

Here's the schedule:

Sweeeeet....sim on Saturday and Sunday...i came THIS CLOSE to having to get a life!

ekcut · 07-26-2009, 03:30 PM

Hmmm...I d/l the file and it was FOOL-X.

Alan T · 07-26-2009, 03:44 PM

Outstanding DC! Glad to see this going!

The correct file to download looks like:

http://www.seojudo.com/baseball/FOOLH.lg.tar.gz

Edit: And no big deal about the photos for me. Would prefer smaller files without them myself.

One thing we need though DC is for you to provide us the league download information to enter in our FTP options (if we are downloading via HTTP as I assume?) That is not included in the league file if you are downloading via HTTP.

We just need the following settings:

League File name
League File URL

Montreal_GM · 07-26-2009, 03:56 PM

I've got a Nap, Chick, Dummy, Heinie, and Socks on my team.

Young Drachma · 07-26-2009, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ekcut

Hmmm...I d/l the file and it was FOOL-X.

lol. my bad. I was trying to do a bunch of things at once. The link Alan gave you is right and I fixed the link to the .zip file

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T

Outstanding DC! Glad to see this going!

The correct file to download looks like:

http://www.seojudo.com/baseball/FOOLH.lg.tar.gz

Edit: And no big deal about the photos for me. Would prefer smaller files without them myself.

One thing we need though DC is for you to provide us the league download information to enter in our FTP options (if we are downloading via HTTP as I assume?) That is not included in the league file if you are downloading via HTTP.

We just need the following settings:

League File name
League File URL

League File name: FOOLH.lg
League File URL: http://www.seojudo.com/baseball/FOOLH.lg

ekcut · 07-26-2009, 04:04 PM

The leaderboards have historical leaders on them....do we want to keep it like that or delete the historicals so it shows FOOL only? i would vote for FOOL only leaders.

Young Drachma · 07-26-2009, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ekcut

The leaderboards have historical leaders on them....do we want to keep it like that or delete the historicals so it shows FOOL only? i would vote for FOOL only leaders.

It's a vestige of the GamboDB, sadly. I don't know how to get rid of it, but one would suspect those records would be gone soon enough anyway. I think it's just one of the flaws of playing historically with a DB, but without Gambo, we don't get Negro Leaguers integrated in.

cgould43 · 07-26-2009, 04:14 PM

one question...how are we playing endurance wise. am I going to need a 4 or 5 man rotation or can I go with 3. Basically are we playing modern day settings?

ekcut · 07-26-2009, 04:20 PM

I entered the
League File name: FOOLH.lg
League File URL: http://www.seojudo.com/baseball/FOOLH.lg

But when I try to update league file I get
'Please ener a host name first. You'll find the options in the Game Setup screen'

cmldude · 07-26-2009, 05:13 PM

yep thats what i get also when i go to update the file

07-13-2009, 12:56 PM	#56
fairly n00b Join Date: Jul 2008	Hey! How about this: start in 1901, but the initial draft is players who debuted after 1999. Then bring on the rookies backwards: 1999 in 1902 1998 in 1903 etc. __________________ Fool-X -- Las Vegas Wildcats (2098-2121)

07-13-2009, 01:34 PM	#59
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	There was a version of the normalized Lahman database that had random debut years for all of the players. It was cool to play with the first time when you didn't know when the players were coming. __________________ Why choose failure when success is an option?

07-14-2009, 12:45 PM	#61
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Lahman doesn't have Negro Leaguers. So we need to stick with GamboDB. As for the start year, we can fudge that if we want. No biggie. Like 1920 instead of 1900. We should be able to start next week, as I think we have enough owners to get going with it. __________________ Current dynasty: OOTP25 Blitz: RTS meets Moneyball \| OOTP Mod: GM Excel Competitive Balance Tax/Revenue Sharing Calc \| FBCB Mods on Github Last edited by Young Drachma : 07-14-2009 at 12:47 PM.

07-14-2009, 12:51 PM	#62
gstelmack Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cary, NC	I thought 1901 was a nice round number to start with. It will only be four months before we hit 1920 anyway... __________________ -- Greg -- Author of various FOF utilities

07-14-2009, 01:07 PM	#65
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	1901 gets my vote if it matters. __________________ Why choose failure when success is an option?

07-13-2009, 01:45 PM	#60
cgould43 High School JV Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Mass	i'm actually playing a little random debut right now

07-14-2009, 01:28 PM	#67
ekcut College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberta	I've already broken out the Ken Burn's series to get me in the mood! __________________ FOOLX- Alberta Renegades FOOL- Leduc Bullets

07-14-2009, 01:31 PM	#68
Montreal_GM College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2009	I'm in favor of '01 as well. __________________ Kevin

07-14-2009, 01:34 PM	#69
ekcut College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberta	I am in favor of a 1920 start, but 01 is TOTALLY cool with me too! __________________ FOOLX- Alberta Renegades FOOL- Leduc Bullets

07-14-2009, 02:43 PM	#70
fairly n00b Join Date: Jul 2008	I like 1901, too. Why lop off 20% of history in a historical sim? __________________ Fool-X -- Las Vegas Wildcats (2098-2121)

07-14-2009, 05:01 PM	#71
hyde4us11 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2007	My thought was since we are playing with modern finances and such might as well set the stage as today. I've always wanted to play historical players in today's game. I'm totally fine with 1901 as well, but just was sharing my thought. __________________ http://www.foolleague.com/

07-14-2009, 05:05 PM	#72
Tasan College Starter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houston, or there about	'01 here. __________________ 2011 Golden Scribes winner for best Interactive Dynasty

07-14-2009, 05:31 PM	#73
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	1901 it is. No contest, really. I agree with the logic of, why lop off 20% of the historical sim, because presumably, this league has an egg timer to it. Sweet. __________________ Current dynasty: OOTP25 Blitz: RTS meets Moneyball \| OOTP Mod: GM Excel Competitive Balance Tax/Revenue Sharing Calc \| FBCB Mods on Github

07-15-2009, 10:12 AM	#74
cmldude Mascot Join Date: Jul 2009	Team:Pirates City: Pittsburgh Stadium: random Im in if there is room, i'm at work and cant see the stadium list so i will take whatever is given

07-15-2009, 12:34 PM	#75
Molholt n00b Join Date: Jul 2009	Team: Braves City: Atlanta Stadium: Turner Field

07-17-2009, 11:59 AM	#78
Montreal_GM College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2009	Are we doing an inaugural draft or random disbursement? I'd almost be in favor of a random start based on how long it would take to do a draft, but that's just me. If it is an inaugural draft do you have an idea of how we'll conduct it? Thanks. __________________ Kevin Last edited by Montreal_GM : 07-17-2009 at 11:59 AM.

07-17-2009, 01:14 PM	#81
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	It'll be like FOOL's initial dispersal. Random draft to start, so you'll inherit your team as-is. OOTP doesn't have inaugural draft lists. __________________ Current dynasty: OOTP25 Blitz: RTS meets Moneyball \| OOTP Mod: GM Excel Competitive Balance Tax/Revenue Sharing Calc \| FBCB Mods on Github Last edited by Young Drachma : 07-17-2009 at 01:15 PM.

07-17-2009, 01:18 PM	#82
Montreal_GM College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2009	I'm pretty sure you can do an initial draft with historical leagues. Not that it matters, just saying. Ah, draft list. Nevermind. It would be hard to conduct the draft without a list. __________________ Kevin Last edited by Montreal_GM : 07-17-2009 at 01:22 PM.

07-17-2009, 01:19 PM	#83
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	I'm cool with doing the initial player allotment the same way we've always done. Within 2 months, most of those players will be gone anyways. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

07-19-2009, 07:05 PM	#85
jimbow37 n00b Join Date: Jul 2009	well? any teams left i know yankees were a few days ago had trouble signing up on the forums

07-19-2009, 09:09 PM	#86
cmldude Mascot Join Date: Jul 2009	So do we get to start this on tuesday then? cant wait to see history come alive

07-24-2009, 10:10 AM	#88
hyde4us11 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2007	We still a go here? Just wondering since I havent heard anything in a few days. __________________ http://www.foolleague.com/

07-26-2009, 03:30 PM	#92
ekcut College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberta	Hmmm...I d/l the file and it was FOOL-X. __________________ FOOLX- Alberta Renegades FOOL- Leduc Bullets

07-26-2009, 03:44 PM	#93
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Outstanding DC! Glad to see this going! The correct file to download looks like: http://www.seojudo.com/baseball/FOOLH.lg.tar.gz Edit: And no big deal about the photos for me. Would prefer smaller files without them myself. One thing we need though DC is for you to provide us the league download information to enter in our FTP options (if we are downloading via HTTP as I assume?) That is not included in the league file if you are downloading via HTTP. We just need the following settings: League File name League File URL __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months. Last edited by Alan T : 07-26-2009 at 03:46 PM.

07-26-2009, 03:56 PM	#94
Montreal_GM College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2009	I've got a Nap, Chick, Dummy, Heinie, and Socks on my team. __________________ Kevin

07-26-2009, 04:04 PM	#96
ekcut College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberta	The leaderboards have historical leaders on them....do we want to keep it like that or delete the historicals so it shows FOOL only? i would vote for FOOL only leaders. __________________ FOOLX- Alberta Renegades FOOL- Leduc Bullets

07-26-2009, 04:14 PM	#98
cgould43 High School JV Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Mass	one question...how are we playing endurance wise. am I going to need a 4 or 5 man rotation or can I go with 3. Basically are we playing modern day settings?

07-26-2009, 04:20 PM	#99
ekcut College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Edmonton, Alberta	I entered the League File name: FOOLH.lg League File URL: http://www.seojudo.com/baseball/FOOLH.lg But when I try to update league file I get 'Please ener a host name first. You'll find the options in the Game Setup screen' __________________ FOOLX- Alberta Renegades FOOL- Leduc Bullets

07-26-2009, 05:13 PM	#100
cmldude Mascot Join Date: Jul 2009	yep thats what i get also when i go to update the file

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