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The chorus of calls for a major Xbox 360 price drop continues. This analyst notes that the PS3 is actually positioned better than the 360 for the first time in this generation. He also mentions that, outside of Gears of War 2, the Xbox 360 is devoid of any other must-have exclusives in the near-future. He states that the Netflix arrangement is much more beneficial to Netflix than Microsoft.
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I got a chuckle out of the subtitle for Dead Rising on Wii.
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Top 10 for all consoles/handhelds (except the PSP for some reason) :
July 2008 Overall Top 20 Video Game Titles 1. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (PS3) 2. Guitar Hero: On Tour (NDS) 3. Ninja Gaiden II (Xbox 360) 4. Wii Fit (Wii) 5. Wii Play w/ Remote (Wii) 6. Battlefield: Bad Company* (Xbox 360) 7. Mario Kart (Wii) 8. Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures (Wii) 9. Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures (NDS) 10. Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures (PS2) 11. Grand Theft Auto IV* (Xbox 360) 12. Rock Band* (Wii) 13. Super Smash Bros: Brawl (Wii) 14. Guitar Hero: Aerosmith* (Wii) 15. Mario and Sonic: Olympic Games (NDS) 16. Guitar Hero: Aerosmith* (Xbox 360) 17. Guitar Hero: Aerosmith* (PS2) 18. New Super Mario Bros (NDS) 19. Grand Theft Auto IV* (PS3) 20. Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures (Xbox 360) Top 10 Wii Titles 1. Wii Fit 2. Wii Play w/ Remote 3. Mario Kart 4. Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures 5. Rock Band 6. Super Smash Bros: Brawl 7. Guitar Hero: Aerosmith* 8. Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock 9. Game Party 10. Mario and Sonic: Olympic Games Top 10 Xbox 360 Titles 1. Ninja Gaiden II 2. Battlefield: Bad Company* 3. Grand Theft Auto IV* 4. Guitar Hero: Aerosmith* 5. Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures 6. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare* 7. Dragonball Z: Burst Limit 8. Grid 9. Rock Band* 10. Robert Ludlum's The Bourne Conspiracy Top 10 PS3 Titles 1. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots 2. Grand Theft Auto IV* 3. Battlefield: Bad Company* 4. Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures 5. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare* 6. Dragonball Z: Burst Limit 7. Guitar Hero: Aerosmith* 8. Grid 9. Robert Ludlum's The Bourne Conspiracy 10. Gran Turismo 5: Prologue Top 10 PS2 Titles 1. Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures 2. Guitar Hero: Aerosmith* 3. The Incredible Hulk 4. Rock Band* 5. Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock* 6. Kung Fu Panda 7. Iron Man 8. God of War II 9. Grand THeft Auto: San Andreas 10. NASCAR 09 Top 10 NDS Titles 1. Guitar Hero: On Tour 2. Lego Indiana Jones: The Original Adventures 3. Mario and Sonic: Olympic Games 4. New Super Mario Bros 5. Mario Kart 6. Kung Fu Panda 7. Brain Age 2: More Training in Minutes a Day 8. Final Fantasy Tactics A2: Grimoire of the Rift 9. Mario Party 10. Imagine: Babyz * Includes Collector's, Limited, Legendary, Bundled (Guitars) editions From the Academy of Interactive Arts and Sciences Look how similar the 360 and PS3 charts are. Last edited by Big Fo : 07-22-2008 at 07:55 PM. |
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Bioware denies internet rumors that the next two Mass Effect games will be Xbox 360 exclusives.
BioWare has 'never confirmed any plans' for Mass Effect 360 exclusivity - Joystiq Good news for Final Fantasy fans. The original build of FFVII is going to be released on the PSN and XBLA. In addition, either a remake of FFVII or a sequel of FFVII will be released for the PS3.......... The Final Fantasy Info [Rumor] « PlayStation LifeStyle Quote:
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Might want to hold off on buying a 360 until the new Jasper mobo 360 comes out in August. They're replacing the 90nm Graphics Chip found in all 360s with a 65nm Chip. The Falcon model had its old 90nm CPU chip replaced with the 65nm chip, along with the removal of the X-clamp, and it has drastically reduced failure rates. I would think that doing the same to the GPU would reduce heat and further stomp out failure rates on the Jasper 360s.
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I've given up on my plan of buying a console this generation. Just doesn't seem worth it to me. The way the industry is going isn't going to help change my mind either.
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Interesting new info from Surfer Girl from post-E3. First, it appears that Bungie is becoming increasingly frustrated with Microsoft over the pulled announcement at E3 and Don Matrick's comments afterwards............
Surfer Girl Strikes Back: Miss Independant And Sony is putting more pressure on Insomniac to produce final build quality gameplay in Resistance 2 since the release is only a few months away......... Surfer Girl Strikes Back: Insomniac feeling the heat |
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Interesting rumor that Xbox Live may start allowing Silver members to play online games for free:
Rumor: XBL Silver Now Allows Free Online Play? |
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Sony reportedly had to pull WipEoutHD because it ran the risk of causing potentially fatal responses to some people................
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That stuff always amazes me. There's usually 2-3 games a year that fail that test, though you don't always hear about it. I've always wondered who the people were that would volunteer themselves for that kind of a test. "Whoops, looks like that game won't go out. Bill's having a seizure." |
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Sony financial numbers for Q1 2008 are out. Sales don't contain any surprises, but the bottom line certainly does. The gaming division is already making a profit. That's worthy of note because Sony didn't expect to make profit until Q2 2008 when the new chip sets were introduced.
Sony: Sony Shifts 1.5 Million PS3s, 3.7 Million PSPs In Q1 2008 |
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Boom Blox sells over 450,000 since launch, "continues to sell well."
shacknews.conm link EA didn't specify whether this was US only or worldwide but it is probably the latter. You may or may not remember but when this game sold only 60k in its first month (of which the game was on sale for only a week) it started up another wave of "third parties can't sell games on Nintendo platforms" articles all over the internet. It's not all about the first week/month of sales on the Wii and DS... I guess this also means that the MSRP won't be dropping anytime soon so I might as well stop waiting to get the game, pretty much everyone who has played it seems to like it. |
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Good 3rd party games will sell. 3rd parties need to stop shoveling crap at the Wii, though.
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Well even if third-parties do produce more good titles, there is always going to be shovelware. It's part of being the most popular console. The PS1 and PS2 had loads of craptastic games but it's no big deal, just buy the good ones. In addition to the Wii's popularity, Nintendo has no sort of quality control or anything like Sony and Microsoft do with their consoles. As long as the game runs relatively bug-free they'll approve it no matter how bad it is.
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Hey, I agree there will be shovelware. The problem is when it is nothing but shovelware.
My problem isn't with shovelware, really, anyway. My problem is with Rock Band releasing a crippled version for the Wii, EA Sports making even shittier (if that's even possible) versions of their games for the Wii, and countless developers taking the easy way out and porting ps2 games. Further, since the Wii isn't as graphically advanced as the other consoles, a lot of developers put basically no effort into the graphics component. There is so much laziness on the part of 3rd party developers for the Wii it is absolutely amazing to hear some of them turn around and bitch about how their stuff doesn't sell. It is good to see an actual good 3rd party game selling well. |
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Some amusing spin from the EA CEO as the NCAA franchise sees drops in pre-sales and overall sales for the third straight year. Evidently, pre-sales are a dinosaur out of the past now. Also, he claims that they are emphasizing quality and innovation in their games. Certainly an interesting assertion.........
EA Sports: With Preorders Down, EA Highlights Sports Innovation |
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After Sony was happy just to get into the black with their latest financial results, Nintendo has posted a $1.1 billion profit over the last quarter.
Reuters article Nintendo earnings release Some numbers from the release, taken from neoGAF: Wii HW Q1 - 5.17 million (an increase of 1.74 million from last year) (29.62 million total) DS HW Q1 - 6.94 million (a decrease of 0.04 million from last year) (77.54 million total) Wii SW Q1 - 40.41 million (an increase of 24.42 million from last year) DS SW Q1 - 36.59 million (an increase of 2.33 million from last year) Mario Kart Wii Q1 - 6.42 million Wii Fit Q1 - 3.42 million (5.27 million total) Cash and Deposits ~$6.6 billion (decrease mostly due to payment of dividends and income taxes) Total Assets ~$16.4 billion Yearly Net Profit Forecast ~$3 billion Nintendo Since 1998 has made roughly $10,737,000,000 Sony Since 1998 has made roughly $1,953,000,000 Microsoft since 2002 has made - $6,369,000,000 |
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Some interesting numbers were in the Nintendo release. Sales in Europe and North America were very strong. Somewhat surprising was the dramatic fall in demand for the Wii over in Japan. In Q1 2007, Nintendo sold over 900K units. In Q1 2008, that number plummeted to just over 500K units. The DS also saw some big drops in unit sales. Software sales are still relatively strong. Is Japan just a place where consoles will sit on shelves and collect dust?
Nintendo Q109 Results: DS, Wii Totally Cooling Off In Japan |
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This will be an interesting trend to watch. In EA's financial release for this quarter, they showed a heavy profit on their PS3 software, with profit on the Wii and 360 being substantially smaller. There must be a bigger profit margin on the PS3 units, as the installed base on the PS3 is not as big as the other two consoles. As we all know, EA runs for the profit margins. We'll have to see if this negative trend for the 360 and relatively stagnant numbers on the Wii will move more emphasis to the more profitable PS3 console.
Ea: PS3 Now EA's Single Biggest Bread-Winner In other news, Netflix is rolling out early testing of the price bump on HD movie rental service......... http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssC...43889620080725 Last edited by Mizzou B-ball fan : 07-30-2008 at 07:20 AM. |
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I'm assuming since your a Wii fan that this is in response to my post concerning the slower Wii sales. It's certainly a relevant point. Wii sales in that region are way down and PS3 sales are selling 1/3 of the Wii's numbers. The 360 is all but gone. There's certainly something amiss in the hardware market over in Japan. Nintendo and Sony have both voiced concern over the slow market in Japan. The slow market in Japan is a big reason why Europe has become THE battleground in this generation of consoles. |
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Sorry, I stooped to your level. Apologies. I'm sure you enjoyed the 2008 Cotton Bowl as much as I did. We'll resumed the regularly scheduled console discussions. Last edited by Mizzou B-ball fan : 07-30-2008 at 10:21 AM. |
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Yeah Japan is the Wii's weakest region. This is also true for the 360 and PS3. Still, in a typical week (ignoring the Metal Gear bump basically) about three times as many Wiis are sold as the HD twins combined. People just love the handhelds over there it seems.
As far as the declining DS sales over there, over 20 million people already own one and it has passed the PS2 as the best selling console or handheld in Japan's history. How many more people are really out there that want a DS but haven't bought one in the last four years? One-sixth of the population already has one, compared with about one-fourteeth here in the US. |
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I do not think the Wii needs a price cut.
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I don't pretend to understand what kind of number massaging is going on with EA's financials, but somebody over at Kotaku posted this link: hxxp://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12187261&postcount=129 Which link purports to explain how exactly EA is booking the revenue. As best I can tell the difference isn't in actual retail game sales but in how and when they book the microtransaction revenue. Put another way, all of the Xbox 360 revenue for the quarter is being booked identically in both GAAP and Non-GAAP forms. The PS3 revenue has around a $50 million difference. I know that GAAP stands for "Generally Accepted Accounting Principles," but I'm at a loss for how exactly those result in $50 million worth of revenue difference depending on how you book the revenue. |
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Could also simply be the earlier "develop on 360 first" mentality, which means the PS3 is cheaper to make since the hard work was done on the 360, and the PS3 was just the port. Would be interesting to see if this flips after the switch to "develop on PS3 first".
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I don't think it's that, because the discussion there is one of revenue for the quarter, not profitability on the games. The GAAP numbers are asserting that the PS3 made $50m more in revenue than the 360 for the quarter, but the Non-GAAP numbers (the ones I guess they have to be more careful with for auditing reasons) show it as $81m to $68m. Closer to parity than they were in the past, but still with a slight edge on 360 because of some EA-owned properties that were (and may still be) exclusive to the 360. |
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Nah, Japan gets enough to meet demand. But some analysts have speculated that consoles meant for North America are being shifted to Europe because of the weaker dollar, which could explain why North America is the only territory to still have shortages.
I forgot to mention it when I posted the numbers up the page but it's nice to see Mario Kart outselling Wii Fit, it's such a good game. 6.4 million copies in three months and change is pretty solid and it will probably keep selling for some time. |
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If I have someone to "ignore," and you guys keep quoting him, it sort of defeats the purpose of the ignore, eh?
Seriously, one anonymous person has posted like 15 times in this thread. I'm sure it's all insightful thoughts... |
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Here's a cool video on IGN showing possible applications for WiiMotion Plus and some development tools for motion recognition.
AiLive Shows Off WiiMotion Plus Give me some kind of medieval battlefield action game with swordfighting and IR bow and arrow shooting ASAP. |
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New indications from Activision as far as console sales in North America for 2008........
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New info from the developer of 'Rage'. If things don't change, the developer says that the PS3 version of the game will be better graphically than the 360 version. Microsoft currently charges some of its licensing fees on a per-disc basis. The Rage developer states that unless Microsoft drops some of the licensing fees to allow for 3 discs on the game, the development group will be forced to used compressed data on 2 discs.
This will be an interesting story to watch to see if Microsoft gives in and rescinds some of their licensing fees as it's becoming apparant that more and more advance games will require multiple discs on the Xbox 360. http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/53976 |
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XBox 360 to see an across the board price drop in September?
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I have no desire to get a 360 anymore, but would get a PS3 if the price dropped more. As long as I get a new TV before that.
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There is some pressure on Sony from the other Blu-Ray manufacturers to not drop the price of the PS3, as they are saying it will hurt their already weak player sales.
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It's been a stupid game that both Sony and the BR player manufacturers have played. Neither want to drop the price because they both want a higher profit margin while selling players. At some point, something's gotta give. BR players are expected to drop significantly in price after the holidays (they're expected to be around $300 at the low end by the holidays). I'm guessing similar PS3 drops will come after the new year. |
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They need much more than a $50 drop to spark sales. Both the PS3 and 360 need a $100 price drop to see any noticable bump. They also need more good games in the fall, which is somewhat surprising to say given that the 360 library has been the stronger one up to now. Sony has the stronger upcoming lineup at this point. |
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