Werewolf Xtreme III --- Game Over (Result in Post 434)

[The Jackal]

I feel like day 1 vote movement, albeit rife with randomness, is particularly interesting in small games. There's a pretty solid chance that at least 1 wolf will be involved in the voting at some point today if not both

[timmae]

That's my thought exactly... check-in and then showing up late tonight isn't gonna do it for me.

[Coffee Warlord]

Should probably mention - my kids go to bed right around voting deadline. If I'm not around then, that's why.

[JAG]

Voting as of post 53:

3 Telle - Coffee Warlord (25), timmae (35), CrimsonFox (37)
1 Coffee Warlord - Telle (29)
1 The Jackal - Autumn (41)
1 RendeR - The Jackal (48)

[Telle]

Originally Posted by timmae

The only credit I'll give is for unrest in the Telle/Render household this week! Ha!! Wait, unless they are both wolves. How fun would that be!

Nah, the only time I get pissed at him for WW stuff is when he can't keep his mouth shut about the game. Would be interesting to both be wolves sometime. Although since the moderator is generally supposed to be included in PMs, I'm not sure how we'd invite him into any pillow chat...

[Telle]

The awesomeness that is my database-driven werewolf website can currently produce this kind of report:

Day 1
Coffee Warlord voted for Telle in post 25
Telle voted for Coffee Warlord in post 29
timmae voted for Telle in post 35
CrimsonFox voted for Telle in post 37
Autumn voted for The Jackal in post 41
The Jackal voted for RendeR in post 48

This evening's task will be making it give me a per-player vote count for anyone that currently has a vote on them.

[Coffee Warlord]

Think we need a mau and a brit.

[timmae]

Nice work Telle! A few days out this will be fun assessing where votes have shifted. We'll need our seer and priest to survive a bit and get us some intel to be able to piece some things together.

[timmae]

unvote

vote render

Awake from your nap wolfie!

[Telle]

Originally Posted by timmae

unvote

vote render

Awake from your nap wolfie!

Shit, I forgot I still have to finish the unvote feature in my system! I started adding that in last night but eventually decided I should quit geeking out and get my butt to bed.

[Coffee Warlord]

Crickets.

[Autumn]

Timmae turns it from a 3-1-1-1 to a 2-2-1-1. I think that's a fairly villager move. And the only point of interest so far ;-) Evening things out this early is good. Though picking Render and therefore keeping it between our WW couple maybe takes advantage of an existing "rivalry" in a way that can be counterproductive.

[RendeR]

i'M NOT INACTIVE!

[RendeR]

I work nights is all and my sleep schedule is screwy =)

[Telle]

Day 1
Coffee Warlord voted for Telle in post 25
Telle voted for Coffee Warlord in post 29
timmae voted for Telle in post 35
CrimsonFox voted for Telle in post 37
Autumn voted for The Jackal in post 41
The Jackal voted for RendeR in post 48
timmae UNVOTED in post 59
timmae voted for RendeR in post 59

[RendeR]

I'll be around a bit. I go to work at 9 so I'll def be around for deadline. I am withholding my vote for self preservation if needed.

I have nothing to go on to vote for any of you cretins yet, so I will bide my time.

[Coffee Warlord]

So you're saying ... you do your work ... at night ... when the moon is out?

HUH.

[RendeR]

Currently tied, but telle has the oldest vote, so she wins* the tie break

* if getting lynched is a win....I guess...

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

So you're saying ... you do your work ... at night ... when the moon is out?

HUH.

I Do! but I only work indoors. The moon is irrelevant.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Autumn

Timmae turns it from a 3-1-1-1 to a 2-2-1-1. I think that's a fairly villager move. And the only point of interest so far ;-) Evening things out this early is good. Though picking Render and therefore keeping it between our WW couple maybe takes advantage of an existing "rivalry" in a way that can be counterproductive.

How is that a fairly villager move?? Thats a classic *I voted for my wolf partner to throw off suspicion and am now moving to vote a villager off* move.

Timmae earns a suspicion point.

[Coffee Warlord]

Tell me, do you often find yourself going to the window, looking up, and, perhaps, howling?

On a more game-related note ... looks like we're still missing brit and mau. Everyone else has at least said something.

[Telle]

Originally Posted by RendeR

I Do! but I only work indoors. The moon is irrelevant.

More like a vampire.. shunning any sign of daylight

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Telle

More like a vampire.. shunning any sign of daylight

Turth.....I DID actually watch Twilight last night....

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Tell me, do you often find yourself going to the window, looking up, and, perhaps, howling?

On a more game-related note ... looks like we're still missing brit and mau. Everyone else has at least said something.

Britrock was very hit or miss in our last game due to work related issues.

[JAG]

Voting as of post 74:

2 Telle - Coffee Warlord (25), CrimsonFox (37)
2 RendeR - The Jackal (48), timmae (59)
1 Coffee Warlord - Telle (29)
1 The Jackal - Autumn (41)

[The Jackal]

I'm always torn with people who say nothing on d1. They're asking for attention, but on the other hand, what if they're genuinely busy and have an important role?

[timmae]

I will say it again... inactives screwed us last game. I have no problem voting off someone inactive. Having said that, I think my Render vote may be ok. He pushed me hard last time he was a baddie and hasn't done any active hunting or investigation today.

[Telle]

So who among us has played one of these kinds of games before? Any insights that'll help?

With no reveal upon death we'll have no way of knowing how the votes went until the Seer or Priest out themselves. And we have to hope we don't accidentally vote either one and that they both survive night kills.

Three botched votes ends the game in favor of the wolves, and each botched vote increases the odds that we hit the See or Priest with the next one. Should the Priest and Seer stay quiet until Day 3 and then reveal all they know? Or should the Priest come out Day 2 and the Seer Day 3? I'm leaning towards the latter because I want to know more sooner and not cross my fingers that we don't fuck up Day 3 but I'm not sure if that's the smart move or not. Thoughts?

[Telle]

So who among us has played one of these kinds of games before? Any insights that'll help?

With no reveal upon death we'll have no way of knowing how the votes went until the Seer or Priest out themselves. And we have to hope we don't accidentally vote either one and that they both survive night kills.

Three botched votes ends the game in favor of the wolves, and each botched vote increases the odds that we hit the See or Priest with the next one. Should the Priest and Seer stay quiet until Day 3 and then reveal all they know? Or should the Priest come out Day 2 and the Seer Day 3? I'm leaning towards the latter because I want to know more sooner and not cross my fingers that we don't fuck up Day 3 but I'm not sure if that's the smart move or not. Thoughts?

[Telle]

Originally Posted by timmae

I will say it again... inactives screwed us last game. I have no problem voting off someone inactive. Having said that, I think my Render vote may be ok. He pushed me hard last time he was a baddie and hasn't done any active hunting or investigation today.

There is also a defined mechanism that replaces anyone inactive for 36 hours. So if we don't vote off the inactive people today then they'll be replaced tomorrow. Also more likely that the inactive players are not wolves since if they are then their fellow wolf is going to be PM'ing them like mad to make them realize the game is happening; a regular villager just got their original PM and if they missed that then nobody's going to sending more messages trying to get their attention.

[Telle]

Ok, not real sure how the double-post happened. Regardless, I'm stepping away for a bit to get my walk done before it's dark.

[Telle]

Hmmm...awfully quiet an hour before deadline. Don't exactly like that when my neck is on the chopping block!

[timmae]

I am thinking priest coming out D2 and Seer D3 makes sense. Need to maximize our knowledge.

I get what you are saying about inactives on D1 but it is just as easy to not do anything and try to skate by. Then D2 they pull the whoops card and buy another day. I am ok with letting them sit today but tomorrow they would need to show up big time or be gone.

For what it is worth I am reading telle and jackal as good this game.

My axis of evil is render, crimson and coffee. I could easily go for a coffee train.

Neutral on autumn and nothing on brit or mau.

[timmae]

Having said all of that they are just mainly gut reads right now. Lets hope we hit a wolf.

[Telle]

Well thanks for your gut-led vote of confidence, timmae. Of course if you're a wolf then you know I'm a villager, so you could just be blowing smoke to get in my good graces.

My problem is that I'm the very first vote-getter, so I lose any ties unless Coffee decides to go elsewhere. I can self-defense vote for Render, but then he'll do the same and I die. I need more movement to survive.

[JAG]

30 minutes to deadline.

[Telle]

UNVOTE

VOTE RendeR

[RendeR]

Pure self defense... My wife is an asshole, she was hoping I'd forget to come back LOL.....


VOTE TELLE

Again, I know nothing, this is day 1 and its my neck on the line here.

[Telle]

It's been a good marriage thus far, I was willing to risk being an ass

[timmae]

The lack of anciety with these votes makes me think we got this all wrong. Brit and mau better have a good excuse.

[Telle]

Anybody else care to chime in here? I really prefer not dying! I'm just a vanilla villager though so at least we won't take out one of the roled villagers. This still sucks though

[timmae]

So... lets go brit or mau, eh?

[Telle]

Originally Posted by timmae

The lack of anciety with these votes makes me think we got this all wrong. Brit and mau better have a good excuse.

Oh there's anxiety all right.. I was just really hoping that people would get more talkative and I could swing some votes. But talking to myself doesn't do shit.

[RendeR]

Originally Posted by Telle

So who among us has played one of these kinds of games before? Any insights that'll help?

With no reveal upon death we'll have no way of knowing how the votes went until the Seer or Priest out themselves. And we have to hope we don't accidentally vote either one and that they both survive night kills.

Three botched votes ends the game in favor of the wolves, and each botched vote increases the odds that we hit the See or Priest with the next one. Should the Priest and Seer stay quiet until Day 3 and then reveal all they know? Or should the Priest come out Day 2 and the Seer Day 3? I'm leaning towards the latter because I want to know more sooner and not cross my fingers that we don't fuck up Day 3 but I'm not sure if that's the smart move or not. Thoughts?

If we get lucky and nab a wolf day 1, I would suggest they come out and let us know who they are because we then have a distinct advantage and it narrows down the hunted group right away.

If we fuck up then they have to stay quiet because we're a;ready at a huge disadvantage.

[timmae]

Well, VV is better than risking a special. Darn inactives.

[The Jackal]

quiet deadlines usually aren't a great sign, I would expect a more impassioned defense from a wolf in a very small game, a fake reveal, whatever it might be. not hearing from half nearly the group in 5+ hours or at all today is a bummer as well

[Telle]

Originally Posted by timmae

Well, VV is better than risking a special. Darn inactives.

I'm happy to vote for anyone that leads to my neck coming off the chopping block. However I don't know that there's enough people in the thread right now to swing things.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by timmae

So... lets go brit or mau, eh?

there are enough of us here to do so if we wanted to, seems like

[RendeR]

I'm certainly willing to shift if others do, I have nothing against anyone, so moving to an inactive is no big deal but we have to do so soon and as my neck is on the line I won't be the first one moving...

[Telle]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

there are enough of us here to do so if we wanted to, seems like

Then pick one. I'm running out of time.