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The Passing system is very innovative and hopefully works decently. If it does than yea these guys could teach Madden a thing or two. Then again, any 7 year old midget/pop warner player could probably teach Madden a thing or two as well :/
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05-15-2010, 05:38 PM | #52 |
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I guess for me, it'll boil down to a couple of things...
1. How much do I want real players? 2. What type of long term modes are there for backbreaker. Is there a season mode, a franchise mode, or something similar? |
05-15-2010, 05:38 PM | #53 |
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I also think it was very smart for them to get this game out two months before Madden...especially if it starts getting good reviews.
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05-15-2010, 05:52 PM | #54 | |
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#2 is the most important issue for me. Depending upon how well their "career mode" is implemented will be the deciding factor if I get this or not. I agree that coming out 2 months before Madden and a month before NCAA is smart. |
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05-16-2010, 10:00 AM | #55 |
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As much as I love a good career mode, I think it is a secondary concern for me in this game. If this actually plays a good game of football, I'd be happy with something approximating a season mode.
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05-16-2010, 11:35 PM | #56 |
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The physics in this game are so impressive. To play a football game and actually have the action on the field look uniquely like football every play--that may be worth $35 alone. Looks like this game gets a lot of the visceral elements right at least as far as play on the field is concerned.
The career mode only matters to me in that it stitches individual matches together in a semi-meaningful way. |
05-20-2010, 01:21 AM | #57 |
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This look and sounds a lot like Blitz The League I and II
Any connections? Of course something tells me that this game will not have Lawrence Taylor on the cover. BTW.... You can pick up Blitz the League II for $7.99 Blitz: The League II (PLAYSTATION3 NEW): N02-009216 iNetVideo.com - HD DVD, DVD, Blu-ray, Video Games, CDs
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Some info concerning what's available in the upcoming demo.........
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05-20-2010, 02:05 PM | #59 |
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Maybe this is exagerating, but the guys behind that seem to really put their heart and soul into this game, kind of reminds me of a fantasy author creating a world to write about in how they really create an alternate football universe with alternate gameplay and new control system. Even if the game doesn´t keep up, it´s hard to not give them an A+ for effort from the info we´ve been given.
Then again, as the new guys in town they have to give a better effort than Madden to stand any chance of establishing themselves. |
05-20-2010, 05:29 PM | #60 |
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Dates for the demo:
"Xbox Live Gold - Friday 21st 9am PST Xbox Live Silver - Friday 28th 9am PST PSN - "incoming", we expect it on Tuesday." Looks like I'll be busy tomorrow afternoon... |
05-20-2010, 07:10 PM | #61 |
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Looking forward to trying the demo tomorrow night.
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05-21-2010, 11:11 AM | #62 |
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So... anyone play the demo yet?
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05-21-2010, 11:34 AM | #63 |
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I tried it briefly today.. lots of things to do in the demo, game menus are well done.
Actual gameplay is "ok" for me so far with limited time playing. I don't like the default camera, although I know they are simulating the limited view a player has on the field. I also don't like all the times I have to hit A to get past the replays and such. Will spend more time with it later. |
05-21-2010, 06:56 PM | #64 |
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Wow.. no more impressions?
I'm going to play some more tonight. |
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I'm downloading it now.. but it will need to be very good to keep me from switching to RDR in a bit. |
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05-21-2010, 07:52 PM | #66 |
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Only played the training camp and 1 exhibition "game", which is actually locked at a half that has 2 2 minute quarters. I picked the pro mode which I assume is a simulation mode since the other mode is "arcade." I played on the medium difficulty level (easy, medium, and hard are the three choices.) I played as Indianapolis vs Columbia. We had vastly better ratings. I felt the skill of their star OLB as he sacked my QB twice, but otherwise I was able to move the ball at will and the QB threw 3 picks right at my guys in that short period. As a result, I won easily 35-0. Not that encouraging. I'm going to move up to hard difficulty and see if the QB makes better choices. The other issue I had is that both teams had too many fumbles and too many big hits. I saw 4 fumbles between us in 2 2 minute quarters.
The positives are the physics which generally look good, although not all of the time as backs seem to be able to change their direction a bit too quickly and drastically at full speed in my opinion. Overall, not that impressed, but intrigued enough to give it another few tries before RDR sucks me in again..
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05-21-2010, 08:19 PM | #67 |
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Looking forward to hearing some other people's impressions but I'm not that impressed right now. There are some great wow collisions, but also a lot of stupid football plays that I've seen in just the 2 demo games. For example, the computer loves to throw it the HB for a loss of 4 or 5 when it is getting pressured. All QB's love to throw Tebow like jump passes, particularly when pressured. QB's are being allowed to throw it far down the field when getting hit at times, although with an awkward animation playing and poor accuracy. Running seems too difficult while passing is a bit too easy so far. I've seen DB's collide with each other twice in 2 short games allowing the receiver to go untouched for a TD. Neither one of the plays was particularly bang-bang and it didn't look authentic. Also, there are too many sacks off blitzes. I played as the worse team this last time and still got 4 sacks off blitzes in 2 2 minute quarters. Maybe this is just a demo thing but it seems like all players may only have 4 ratings (maybe it is just 4 listed on the depth chart) - Focus, Speed, Strength, and Agility. Hopefully, that is just a demo depth chart thing.
On the plus side, some of the WR/DB hits look amazing. QB's are sometime inaccurate. A lot of the hits look very good. Anyway, I'll give it another try tomorrow, but this demo does not entice me to pay full price for this game, assuming it is 50-60 dollars (or even 39.99.) Edit: One other thing I do like is the camera angles which give a much more limited view of the field and make you feel more like you are playing whatever position you are at on the field at that time. That is done well at least for QB and LB, in my opinion.
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05-21-2010, 09:03 PM | #68 |
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I would agree somewhat.. I'm not impressed as much as I thought I would be, but to me, the camera angle leaves a lot to be desired.
There is no peripheral vision, which kind of makes the game a tad borning for me.. not being able to see what's going on besides your view doesn't do much for me, I still like to see all of the action. Stadiums are great.. maybe later on when it's not $50. |
05-22-2010, 01:01 PM | #69 |
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It's growing on me - the hitting alone makes the game worth putting some time into it.
I really like the running, but passing is damn tough and I feel like a lucky man when I complete one. If the camera was back just a bit further, I think I would really get the hang of it. Spins are hard for me to pull of, but the rest isn't too difficult. I love how your player starts gasping for air if you hold the aggressive button too long. Defense isn't too bad if I play safety.. but again, I would like the camera pulled back. I'm still on the fence and with NCAA 11 coming, I'm not sure I'll get it until it drops to $20-$30. Really impressed with all the tackling/hitting variations though, I've seen so many cool hits and tackles!!! Last edited by MizzouRah : 05-22-2010 at 01:02 PM. |
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I thought the game felt kind of alien to me, and I could rarely truly tell what I was doing when running the ball. There is no real ability to feel where defenders might be coming from, and that makes it kind of a wham bam, how many yards did I get? kind of thing unless you manage to break into the open field, where it seems there is at least a little time to survey the scene.
I also wish there were other camera options, as limiting to one camera view really sucks when it cant have been that hard to have multiple or even custom camera views. And watching replays.. Why show only from my player's P.O.V.? Why can't I see other angles of the action? Lame for when I want to really look at the game and see what happened on a given play from a better perspective. Not as enjoyable as I had hoped, can only hope they try again and refine the system based on feedback to give the game more realism and the player more options. What good are the impressive physics based animations if you only get one or two glimpses of a great tackle or block before you have to move on, when one could sit for a couple minutes and really enjoy the details of all the action taking place? I give it a 2/5, and this is from a guy who hasn't been able to enjoy a football game since Madden 07 for the original XBOX.
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05-22-2010, 08:16 PM | #71 |
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Sure the tackles are nice and all but does anyone else feel the models are um....awful looking? I keep expecting them to whip out a gun and shoot my QB in the face as they look like they are wearing body armour. Also whats with every freaking player looking like Randal McDaniel with the cool visor in his helmet?
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05-22-2010, 09:46 PM | #72 |
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Been playing some more and the camera angle is just killing it for me. I just don't feel connected to the rest of the game.
A pulled back camera would do wonders for me. |
06-01-2010, 08:00 PM | #73 |
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The game arrived in the mail today from Gamestop. I played a little bit and completed the tutorial (the only one I can't get is the lob pass).
The game seems very fun overall. I like how the running game and passing game are different from Madden and NCAA Football. I also like playing the defensive side of the ball...it seems much more like playing real football. The cons are the create-a-team. It's not very intuitive at all. I haven't played the online part of it yet and I'm not sure I will. Overall, it seems as if it's a solid effort, especially compared to Madden 07 (I think that was the first 360 version). |
06-01-2010, 08:05 PM | #74 |
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Too bad the CPU AI is horrible, the playbook is limited, and lots of goofy bugs from what I've read over at OS and a review from Game Informer.
They did announce a BB2, so I'm sure they will use this years feedback and improve on the AI and what not. |
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From a few reviews I've read it sounds like online is where the game really shines, outside of some lag issues. By all reports it's the AI's inability to not throw picks or run the ball that are the game's biggest issues.
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06-04-2010, 09:24 AM | #76 |
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Anyone wanting to pick it up cheaper: Backbreaker Football - Xbox 360 - QVC.com
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06-08-2010, 06:34 PM | #77 |
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Okay, I played online and I've played a little in the Road to Backbreaker.
It's simply not a good game. The pluses: The tackling is amazing. Running the ball feels more organic than Madden. The minuses: Play selection is very limited. Create a team is very work intensive. It'd be better if they did it like NCAA Football. No NFL license. The NFL license thing isn't a dealbreaker, but it would greatly enhance the game. |
06-08-2010, 06:50 PM | #78 |
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I think the NFL license would make it too comparable to madden. THe idea behind this game should be to release a unique football game with features you can't find in Madden and a radically different approach to many aspects. I think using a multi-tiered league style of play is very cool and hope they come up with other unique twists to add to the picture in BB2.
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06-08-2010, 07:18 PM | #79 | |
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Somebody over at OS has NFL teams that you can import or something like that.. The game will be in the bargain bins at some point and I might pick it up then, especially if there is a patch. |
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08-02-2010, 02:39 PM | #80 | |
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Patch is due out soon and if it really does some of what they state, I might pick this one up instead of Madden 11.
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08-02-2010, 02:50 PM | #81 |
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Wow. Pretty awesome list.
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08-02-2010, 03:09 PM | #82 |
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They really do pay attention and listen to customers, that is interesting. How are they going to dominate the market and create a roster update every year with all this work they actually are trying to do? They will never top madden omgwtfbbq!
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Very nice. Definitely good to see.
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That one made me laugh. It is quite an impressive list of fixes and it seems to me they have been working hard since it's release quite some time ago. |
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Very nice to see.
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Aside from the refreshing lack of a beer tent, I didn't really find anything redeeming about the game. It would take another couple of bug fix lists of that length and depth to get it on a level that is both fun and playable. I haven't even made it through a game yet. It's hard to get into and while there are a few good graphics moves, the game really lacks something.
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Will definitely give the game another go, has huge potential and the concept has some intrigue definitely.
as for the import of NFL teams : http://forum.backbreakergame.com/showthread.php?t=8012&highlight=european haven´t tried it myself, link is for the 360. Just browse their customization-forum for more info.
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If this game is even moderately successful, EA will show up with bags of loot and devour it.....goodby competition
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From Dubious Quality:
Dubious Quality: Backbreaker (Greathouse #3) Impressions (360) Quote:
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I agree that it´s very fun now, rented it for 2 days post-patch and loved it. Won´t buy it just yet because i also love playing NCAA right now and there´s no time for another console game right now. But i´ll definitely pick it up at some point, propably in november or sth when the weather starts sucking consistently
The one thing that continues to bug me as that the game (on offense) feels slooooooow, mainly due to the very stiff animations (especially jukes are laughably stiff, but even running straight looks off) and the huge player models, but the QB play is extremely challenging (and rewarding) and playing defense is a blast. And yeah, the tackling is really like a million times better than anything EA ever produced.
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I picked this up yesterday thanks to a gift voucher, and man, I really struggle with the camera view, going to take some getting used to. I completed all the tutorials and then created a team and started a "career mode" (can't remember their term for it). First game, lost 33-0... And it really wasn't even that close.
I was surprised to find that on D I actually enjoyed controlling the CBs the most, which is something I never do in Madden. Biggest problem I have is focusing entirely on the WR lined up opposite me and not noticing that the QB in fact handed the ball off 4 seconds ago... On offense I completely suck balls. By the 4th Q I was starting to get the hang of controlling the QB and switching between the WRs, but I'm still woeful at running and didn't manage more than 3 yards on any rush, though few of my runs ended in positive yardage. All in all though, I got to say I dig the game's style. Once I adapt to the camera angle and controls I think I'll really enjoy it.
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I picked this up last weekend, installed the NFL patch, and have been loving it all week. The animations, the "role" playing aspect of playing a certain player throughout the entire play (or game), the camera angle (yes, it does take some getting used to), all add to the experience IMHO.
It's not perfect, but it beats Madden 11 hands down for my money. I tried playing Madden 11 the other night, and found it unplayable. The animations and gameplay seem so contrived, it's not even close for me. In all, I'm very happy with the purchase.
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WSR: Tell me more about this NFL patch.
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It's a patch that updates the uniforms, logos, etc. and the team rosters to mirror the NFL. The latest version if V15 (I believe). The main person behind this effort has his own website Backbreaker NFL 11 along with a Youtube video on how to transfer the files. (I'm playing the XBOX version, but I believe there is a version floating around for the PS3 as well.) Here is a link to a Youtube video that shows the final product: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM40S...layer_embedded
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Dammit...now I may have to look into finding a way to afford this...
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Hmm, I probably wasn't going to buy this, but the NFL patch might make me reconsider.
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Still no PC version?
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