2013 SI's FOFC Alternate Rules Football; Set your lineups! - Page 2

Chief Rum · 08-13-2013, 12:21 PM

I'm not sure if anyone else commented, but I am okay with fractional points.

Julio Riddols · 08-13-2013, 02:51 PM

I can dig number 4, solid slot.

Butter · 08-16-2013, 12:17 PM

So, in looking at the positional splits for 2012 scoring out of the top 100 offensive players, they break down like this:

25 QB
22 RB
43 WR
10 TE

Not a great year for tight ends, but many of the big names dealt with injuries last season.

SI mentions that he likes to keep the splits around 20/20/45/15. I think that tight ends will naturally bounce back a bit, so I am not going to add fractional points or make any other scoring changes this year.

My only concern was actually that WR seemed a bit high-powered last year, but the stats don't bear that out.

Comey · 08-16-2013, 12:26 PM

Are there any resources that would help me with this kind of league? I will do my own research, but if there's anything else that you guys recommend, I'm all eyes.

Chief Rum · 08-16-2013, 01:30 PM

Should I start drafting?

Butter · 08-16-2013, 01:45 PM

As the scoring is now settled, and the draft is scheduled to begin on Monday at 8 AM, I am actually going to open the floor now.

No one will be held to any time limits over the weekend, so whatever we get through, we get through. But starting on Monday, we will have 2 hour time limits per pick.

Reminders:

1. If you could post your picks in a format like this "1.1 QB Warren Moon, HOU", it would be greatly appreciated. The bold helps it stand out from the random other chatter. Also, the position and team name make it easier for me to enter it into and find the right player. There used to be two WR Steve Smiths in the league, for instance, and this helps out with putting the right names into Yahoo.

2. PM the person after you! This is extremely important this season with the quick schedule. Personally, I don't have thread subscriptions turned on so I don't see every time someone posts in the thread, but I do get an email every time I get a PM so that is helpful.

3. Yes, I'm the commish but I always am thankful for help. I'll be able to check multiple times per day but I won't be on every hour on the hour. If it's been more than the allotted time (2 hours this week, 1 hour next week), make the pick so the next person can go. It's nothing personal, we're not being mean, but we need to keep it moving. If someone posts in the thread "I'm here", be nice and let them make the pick (within reason- I mean if the posted it like 3 hours ago, well, you know...). But if you're late with the pick and you post "I'm here", make the pick in the next few minutes.

4. We've never had issues with table talk during the draft: it's meant to be a nice, friendly league and we all have access to the same information. So if I say "You know, I had a hard time deciding between Morten Anderson and Tony Zendejas but I went with Morten", don't get mad because Zendejas was your big sleeper and he gets picked right before you: if he was that big of a sleeper, you should have picked him last round. Heck, use table talk to your advantage: maybe I really don't like Zendejas and want someone else to pick him because I'm really hoping Chip Lohmiller falls to me. Just don't be an ass and it's up to my discretion who's being an ass. This is meant to be a nice, friendly league.

5. We're using Yahoo for the draft and I'll try to keep that up to date as often as I can. I'll also try to keep up with the draft in post #5. However, there's a quirk in Yahoo with regards to players remaining in the pool. If you go to the "Players" tab in Yahoo, it will take the drafted players out of the pool and you'll only see who is left. However, if you search on a name- it will give you all players with that name, available or not. So, if Warren Moon was picked 1.1 and I'm at 1.2, I won't see him in the available players. However, if I search on "Moon", he will show up even tho he's been picked.

TRO · 08-16-2013, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Should I start drafting?

Yes. Take Aaron Hernandez. Do it.

Butter · 08-16-2013, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comey

Are there any resources that would help me with this kind of league? I will do my own research, but if there's anything else that you guys recommend, I'm all eyes.

I typically do some googling of draft guides for PPR leagues, but if you do that I would definitely check their recommendations between regular and PPR... some just pay it lip-service, some actually do the number crunching.

Chief Rum · 08-16-2013, 04:56 PM

With the first pick of the Alternate Rules draft, Chief's Savages select...

1.1 Drew Brees, QB

Butter is up next. PMing him now.

Chief Rum · 08-16-2013, 04:58 PM

First overall picks are sometimes extremely difficult. Given that we run with 2 QBs, this position has a lot more scarcity here than in other drafts and QBs are more consistent producers, too.

Under our unchanged rules, Brees was the #2 scorer last year, and that was without Payton. So I am counting on even better performance.

Danny · 08-17-2013, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

First overall picks are sometimes extremely difficult. Given that we run with 2 QBs, this position has a lot more scarcity here than in other drafts and QBs are more consistent producers, too.

Under our unchanged rules, Brees was the #2 scorer last year, and that was without Payton. So I am counting on even better performance.

I like your pick because now a better player will fall to me!

Comey · 08-17-2013, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

I typically do some googling of draft guides for PPR leagues, but if you do that I would definitely check their recommendations between regular and PPR... some just pay it lip-service, some actually do the number crunching.

Danke. I typically go back and forth anyway to get a general consensus. Just seemed like I needed more for this. I think I'm set then.

Danny · 08-17-2013, 02:00 PM

Just for fair disclosure. I went over the basics of FF with my wife and printed her a draft list and gave her some general advise, but from here on out she is deciding herself who to pick.

Butter · 08-18-2013, 10:10 PM

Shit, sorry guys. I had all kinds of stuff going on this weekend, I should've been here earlier.

Anyway, thought between 3 different guys, but in the end I am going with:

1.2 RB Adrian Peterson, MIN

I don't disagree with CR's choice at all, but I can't leave him on the board, even if all the elite QBs might be gone by the time I pick again.

I PM'd TRO, as Royal Apes are up 3rd.

TRO · 08-19-2013, 07:59 AM

1.3 RB Arian Foster, Hou

Subby · 08-19-2013, 11:51 AM

Fantasy football: Officially concerned about Arian Foster - Fantasy Football - ESPN

Julio Riddols · 08-19-2013, 11:55 AM

1.4 LeSean McCoy, PHI

Julio Riddols · 08-19-2013, 11:55 AM

I think Shady is going to blow up this year. I'll get a PM out to the next in line.

Julio Riddols · 08-19-2013, 11:57 AM

Sorry about taking some time there, I just woke up.

britrock88 · 08-19-2013, 12:04 PM

1.5 Calvin Johnson, WR, DET

PPR + 8 yards/point = win.

Julio Riddols · 08-19-2013, 12:06 PM

I dig it, was also considering him, but I have no idea what to make of the Lions offense.

Butter · 08-19-2013, 12:13 PM

Calvin is a solid choice... I was definitely considering him at #2, but my RBs were such a disaster last year, I am HOPING that AP can have another great season.

TRO · 08-19-2013, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subby

Fantasy football: Officially concerned about Arian Foster - Fantasy Football - ESPN

Ooof, I guess I need to pay more attention. Can I take a mulligan from the players left?

Danny · 08-19-2013, 01:12 PM

1.6 RB Doug Martin

My wife is at work, but next on her list is

1.7 Jamal Charles

Butter · 08-19-2013, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRO

Ooof, I guess I need to pay more attention. Can I take a mulligan from the players left?

I don't think I feel good about that. This is intended to be a nice, friendly league though, so if more people disagree with me than agree, I can be persuaded.

I will have to add this as a rule going forward though, you need to research your picks before taking a person. If they have injury questions, you assume the risk.

I think this Foster case is different than someone that you didn't know had just blown out an ACL and is out for the season. Foster dropped to 8th on that ESPN wonk's board from above, so you are not way off the reservation with that pick.

Thoughts?

Subby · 08-19-2013, 01:36 PM

I would say no. Sorry. If we were doing this live you would not be able to go back and re-pick.

Butter · 08-19-2013, 01:59 PM

Thanks for checking in, Subby... and then not picking.

Subby · 08-19-2013, 02:02 PM

1.8 Ray Rice RB, BAL

Subby · 08-19-2013, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Thanks for checking in, Subby... and then not picking.

I WAS RESEARCHING.

TRO · 08-19-2013, 02:31 PM

It's ok, I was only mildly serious. I was kicking myself for picking from my phone this morning as I told myself "seriously, if Foster was hurt, you would have heard about it by now".

He's just going to run for 1,800 and 20 TDs now. Book it.

Danny · 08-19-2013, 02:52 PM

If you make sure to grab Tate you will still get RB1 numbers even if he is hurt.

Masked · 08-19-2013, 03:10 PM

1.9 Aaron Rodgers QB GB

I've been burned with over thinking the QB position in this league for the past few years.

Comey · 08-19-2013, 03:52 PM

1.10 CJ Spiller, RB, Buffalo

2.1 Trent Richardson, RB, Cleveland

Butter · 08-19-2013, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masked

1.9 Aaron Rodgers QB GB

I've been burned with over thinking the QB position in this league for the past few years.

I was thinking about him up at #2, so that is some good value.

Comey · 08-19-2013, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

I was thinking about him up at #2, so that is some good value.

He'd have gone with one of my two picks, easily.

Danny · 08-19-2013, 04:39 PM

Spiller is a studly pick.

Masked · 08-19-2013, 04:48 PM

2.2 Marshawn Lynch, RB, SEA

Masked · 08-19-2013, 04:51 PM

FYI - I'm traveling over the next few days and may not be online as much as usual - I'll send lists around as my next picks gets closer if I'm going to be off for an extended period.

Subby · 08-19-2013, 05:02 PM

2.3 Alfred Morris, RB, WAS

Danny · 08-19-2013, 05:18 PM

2.4 QB Peyton Manning (dont have a list from my wife, but Peyton is her favorite player and one of the few she knows, plus she said she was hoping to get him.

2.5 WR AJ Green

britrock88 · 08-19-2013, 05:46 PM

2.6 Jimmy Graham, TE, NO

Julio Riddols · 08-19-2013, 06:04 PM

Wow, we're moving. Doing some quick research.

Julio Riddols · 08-19-2013, 06:06 PM

2.7 Brandon Marshall, WR CHI

TRO · 08-19-2013, 06:16 PM

2.8 QB Matt Ryan, ATL

Butter · 08-19-2013, 08:37 PM

Getting ready to pick, sorry for the delay.

Butter · 08-19-2013, 08:43 PM

2.9 QB Tom Brady, NE

Butter · 08-19-2013, 08:47 PM

Draft summary in posts 5 and 6 are updated.

Butter · 08-20-2013, 10:19 AM

CR gets double-time to make his 2nd and 3rd round picks since he has 2 straight, but we are down to about a half hour... I'll probably let him eat into my time a bit since he is a West Coaster and it is still early out there.

Chief Rum · 08-20-2013, 10:51 AM

Sorry for the hold up guys. I am picking right now. Bad timing with my two jobs. These picks came up right at the start of my job last night.

Should we be counting sleeping hours while on the clock?

Chief Rum · 08-20-2013, 11:02 AM

2.10 QB Cam Newton, CAR

2.1 WR Dez Bryant, DAL

08-13-2013, 02:51 PM	#52
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	I can dig number 4, solid slot. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

08-16-2013, 12:17 PM	#53
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	So, in looking at the positional splits for 2012 scoring out of the top 100 offensive players, they break down like this: 25 QB 22 RB 43 WR 10 TE Not a great year for tight ends, but many of the big names dealt with injuries last season. SI mentions that he likes to keep the splits around 20/20/45/15. I think that tight ends will naturally bounce back a bit, so I am not going to add fractional points or make any other scoring changes this year. My only concern was actually that WR seemed a bit high-powered last year, but the stats don't bear that out. __________________ My listening habits

08-16-2013, 12:26 PM	#54
Comey College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CT via PA via CA via PA	Are there any resources that would help me with this kind of league? I will do my own research, but if there's anything else that you guys recommend, I'm all eyes. __________________

08-16-2013, 01:30 PM	#55
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Should I start drafting? __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

08-16-2013, 01:45 PM	#56
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	As the scoring is now settled, and the draft is scheduled to begin on Monday at 8 AM, I am actually going to open the floor now. No one will be held to any time limits over the weekend, so whatever we get through, we get through. But starting on Monday, we will have 2 hour time limits per pick. Reminders: 1. If you could post your picks in a format like this "1.1 QB Warren Moon, HOU", it would be greatly appreciated. The bold helps it stand out from the random other chatter. Also, the position and team name make it easier for me to enter it into and find the right player. There used to be two WR Steve Smiths in the league, for instance, and this helps out with putting the right names into Yahoo. 2. PM the person after you! This is extremely important this season with the quick schedule. Personally, I don't have thread subscriptions turned on so I don't see every time someone posts in the thread, but I do get an email every time I get a PM so that is helpful. 3. Yes, I'm the commish but I always am thankful for help. I'll be able to check multiple times per day but I won't be on every hour on the hour. If it's been more than the allotted time (2 hours this week, 1 hour next week), make the pick so the next person can go. It's nothing personal, we're not being mean, but we need to keep it moving. If someone posts in the thread "I'm here", be nice and let them make the pick (within reason- I mean if the posted it like 3 hours ago, well, you know...). But if you're late with the pick and you post "I'm here", make the pick in the next few minutes. 4. We've never had issues with table talk during the draft: it's meant to be a nice, friendly league and we all have access to the same information. So if I say "You know, I had a hard time deciding between Morten Anderson and Tony Zendejas but I went with Morten", don't get mad because Zendejas was your big sleeper and he gets picked right before you: if he was that big of a sleeper, you should have picked him last round. Heck, use table talk to your advantage: maybe I really don't like Zendejas and want someone else to pick him because I'm really hoping Chip Lohmiller falls to me. Just don't be an ass and it's up to my discretion who's being an ass. This is meant to be a nice, friendly league. 5. We're using Yahoo for the draft and I'll try to keep that up to date as often as I can. I'll also try to keep up with the draft in post #5. However, there's a quirk in Yahoo with regards to players remaining in the pool. If you go to the "Players" tab in Yahoo, it will take the drafted players out of the pool and you'll only see who is left. However, if you search on a name- it will give you all players with that name, available or not. So, if Warren Moon was picked 1.1 and I'm at 1.2, I won't see him in the available players. However, if I search on "Moon", he will show up even tho he's been picked. __________________ My listening habits

08-16-2013, 04:56 PM	#59
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	With the first pick of the Alternate Rules draft, Chief's Savages select... 1.1 Drew Brees, QB Butter is up next. PMing him now. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

08-16-2013, 04:58 PM	#60
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	First overall picks are sometimes extremely difficult. Given that we run with 2 QBs, this position has a lot more scarcity here than in other drafts and QBs are more consistent producers, too. Under our unchanged rules, Brees was the #2 scorer last year, and that was without Payton. So I am counting on even better performance. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

08-17-2013, 02:00 PM	#63
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Just for fair disclosure. I went over the basics of FF with my wife and printed her a draft list and gave her some general advise, but from here on out she is deciding herself who to pick.

08-18-2013, 10:10 PM	#64
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	Shit, sorry guys. I had all kinds of stuff going on this weekend, I should've been here earlier. Anyway, thought between 3 different guys, but in the end I am going with: 1.2 RB Adrian Peterson, MIN I don't disagree with CR's choice at all, but I can't leave him on the board, even if all the elite QBs might be gone by the time I pick again. I PM'd TRO, as Royal Apes are up 3rd. __________________ My listening habits Last edited by Butter : 08-18-2013 at 10:25 PM.

08-19-2013, 07:59 AM	#65
TRO College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Louisburg, KS	1.3 RB Arian Foster, Hou __________________ TRA, the Royal Ape

08-19-2013, 11:51 AM	#66
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	Fantasy football: Officially concerned about Arian Foster - Fantasy Football - ESPN __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com

08-19-2013, 11:55 AM	#67
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	1.4 LeSean McCoy, PHI __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

08-19-2013, 11:57 AM	#69
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	Sorry about taking some time there, I just woke up. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

08-19-2013, 12:04 PM	#70
britrock88 Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Madison, WI	1.5 Calvin Johnson, WR, DET PPR + 8 yards/point = win.

08-19-2013, 12:06 PM	#71
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	I dig it, was also considering him, but I have no idea what to make of the Lions offense. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

08-19-2013, 12:13 PM	#72
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	Calvin is a solid choice... I was definitely considering him at #2, but my RBs were such a disaster last year, I am HOPING that AP can have another great season. __________________ My listening habits

08-19-2013, 01:12 PM	#74
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	1.6 RB Doug Martin My wife is at work, but next on her list is 1.7 Jamal Charles

08-19-2013, 01:36 PM	#76
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	I would say no. Sorry. If we were doing this live you would not be able to go back and re-pick. __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com

08-19-2013, 01:59 PM	#77
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	Thanks for checking in, Subby... and then not picking. __________________ My listening habits

08-19-2013, 02:02 PM	#78
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	1.8 Ray Rice RB, BAL __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com Last edited by Subby : 08-19-2013 at 02:03 PM.

08-19-2013, 02:31 PM	#80
TRO College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Louisburg, KS	It's ok, I was only mildly serious. I was kicking myself for picking from my phone this morning as I told myself "seriously, if Foster was hurt, you would have heard about it by now". He's just going to run for 1,800 and 20 TDs now. Book it. __________________ TRA, the Royal Ape Last edited by TRO : 08-19-2013 at 02:32 PM.

08-19-2013, 02:52 PM	#81
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	If you make sure to grab Tate you will still get RB1 numbers even if he is hurt.

08-19-2013, 03:10 PM	#82
Masked College Starter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bay Area	1.9 Aaron Rodgers QB GB I've been burned with over thinking the QB position in this league for the past few years.

08-19-2013, 03:52 PM	#83
Comey College Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: CT via PA via CA via PA	1.10 CJ Spiller, RB, Buffalo 2.1 Trent Richardson, RB, Cleveland __________________

08-19-2013, 04:39 PM	#86
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Spiller is a studly pick.

08-19-2013, 04:48 PM	#87
Masked College Starter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bay Area	2.2 Marshawn Lynch, RB, SEA

08-19-2013, 04:51 PM	#88
Masked College Starter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bay Area	FYI - I'm traveling over the next few days and may not be online as much as usual - I'll send lists around as my next picks gets closer if I'm going to be off for an extended period.

08-19-2013, 05:02 PM	#89
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	2.3 Alfred Morris, RB, WAS __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com

08-19-2013, 05:18 PM	#90
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	2.4 QB Peyton Manning (dont have a list from my wife, but Peyton is her favorite player and one of the few she knows, plus she said she was hoping to get him. 2.5 WR AJ Green

08-19-2013, 05:46 PM	#91
britrock88 Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Madison, WI	2.6 Jimmy Graham, TE, NO

08-19-2013, 06:04 PM	#92
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	Wow, we're moving. Doing some quick research. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

08-19-2013, 06:06 PM	#93
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	2.7 Brandon Marshall, WR CHI __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

08-19-2013, 06:16 PM	#94
TRO College Prospect Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Louisburg, KS	2.8 QB Matt Ryan, ATL __________________ TRA, the Royal Ape

08-19-2013, 08:37 PM	#95
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	Getting ready to pick, sorry for the delay. __________________ My listening habits

08-19-2013, 08:43 PM	#96
Butter Coordinator Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Dayton, OH	2.9 QB Tom Brady, NE __________________ My listening habits