College Football Week 1 discussion

[Lathum]

cougin it early on!

[tarcone]

Originally Posted by PilotMan

North Dakota State in Ames is Bugging Andy | whotv.com

This video is well done and has goaded enough NDSU fans into becoming stark raving lunatics. It's all clearly tongue in cheek and funny as hell.

Great video. I laughed through the whole thing. Being from Iowa and hating the Cyclowns, I enjoyed it tremendously.

[RomaGoth]

Originally Posted by cartman

Well, the Boise State QB has only had two passes hit the dirt. 14/19 and 3 INTs

Hedrick has no business as a starting QB playing like this. Same terrible decision making as last year. BSU hung in for a while, but this was inevitable.

People need to realize that the Broncos were overachieving with Peterson and last year was just a prelude to what will probably become more common with this program outside of the MWC.

[General Mike]

R-U Rah Rah!

[ISiddiqui]

I am surprised that Rutgers answered right back after the WSU scored. Very unlike teams of the past few years! Me likey!

[ISiddiqui]

Oh, I spoke too soon... it's just no defense on either side time.

[Lonnie]

No A&M love? Kevin Hill was a bad ass today. Gig'em!

[dawgfan]

And just because their last game was several months ago, the Cougs decided to remind folks why the term "Coug'n it" was created. There's nothing like seeing one of your main rivals blow a game, especially when they do it playing in their rivals home town.

Go Huskies!

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by Lonnie

No A&M love? Kevin Hill was a bad ass today. Gig'em!

I know it's early, but you might want to learn his name. It's Kenny Hill.

[CU Tiger]

Kevin Sumlin is the bad ass and folks are starting to figure it out.
On a related note, the fill ins on Mike and Mike just discussed how SC wasnt overrated, but A&M were under rated..."since they play in the SEC they bring in new players every year" (what does that even mean?) and that they think SC should "probably be ranked around 12th while A&M moves up to 9th"

[Butter]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Kevin Sumlin is the bad ass and folks are starting to figure it out.
On a related note, the fill ins on Mike and Mike just discussed how SC wasnt overrated, but A&M were under rated..."since they play in the SEC they bring in new players every year" (what does that even mean?) and that they think SC should "probably be ranked around 12th while A&M moves up to 9th"

Yes, but you knew that was going to happen.

Despite the fact that anyone who pays attention to South Carolina football knew that them being in the top 10 was a joke, let alone them being named as a good candidate for the playoff.

They are really going to feel the loss of Connor Shaw and Clowney this year. Even though Clowney struggled last year, he still ate up two blockers every play.

Plus, SCAR is going through transition to a new defensive coordinator, and we all see how THAT worked out last night.

That said, I was really impressed with TAMU. But being so early, it's hard to know how much of that was no defense on the SCAR side, and how much was quality play on the TAMU side. That's why these preseason rankings are a joke. Give them a couple of games to play, then we can start to see where everyone shakes out.

[BillJasper]

Does Boise State return to obscurity now?

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

That's why these preseason rankings are a joke. Give them a couple of games to play, then we can start to see where everyone shakes out.

Agreed..but ESPN has a vested interest in certain teams and will try to write the story instead of report it...

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by dawgfan

And just because their last game was several months ago, the Cougs decided to remind folks why the term "Coug'n it" was created. There's nothing like seeing one of your main rivals blow a game, especially when they do it playing in their rivals home town.

Go Huskies!

+1000

As a lifelong Rutgers fan, my Dad wen there and I grew up 20 minutes from campus, and a Washington alum, last night couldn't have gone better.

Really wish I still lived in Seattle, would have loved to go to that game. Dad and I already have plans to come out for the Rutgers- UW game in a couple years.

[MrBug708]

Cant believe the Cougs lost that game

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Cant believe the Cougs lost that game

How can any PAC 12 fan be surprised by anything the Cougs do?

[Lonnie]

Originally Posted by Matthean

I know it's early, but you might want to learn his name. It's Kenny Hill.

I might have had a few beers before that post and morphed Sumlin and Hill together into a mega beast.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Agreed..but ESPN has a vested interest in certain teams and will try to write the story instead of report it...

In fariness to ESPN, preseason rankings have been around far longer than they have ... and people would get those wrong too.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Yes, but you knew that was going to happen.

Despite the fact that anyone who pays attention to South Carolina football knew that them being in the top 10 was a joke, let alone them being named as a good candidate for the playoff.

They are really going to feel the loss of Connor Shaw and Clowney this year. Even though Clowney struggled last year, he still ate up two blockers every play.

Plus, SCAR is going through transition to a new defensive coordinator, and we all see how THAT worked out last night.

That said, I was really impressed with TAMU. But being so early, it's hard to know how much of that was no defense on the SCAR side, and how much was quality play on the TAMU side. That's why these preseason rankings are a joke. Give them a couple of games to play, then we can start to see where everyone shakes out.

To be fair, SC had very few seniors on last year's team and were returning a bunch of players. Replacing QBs is always a tricky thing though. Hell, Sims somehow has won out at 'Bama so far, and I have yet to see anything that gives me confidence in the guy.

[MacroGuru]

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by Matthean

To be fair, SC had very few seniors on last year's team and were returning a bunch of players. Replacing QBs is always a tricky thing though. Hell, Sims somehow has won out at 'Bama so far, and I have yet to see anything that gives me confidence in the guy.

Wait...they lost 8 starters off last years team. and 16 off the 2 deep.
They lost the #1 overall draft pick. Plus 3 other NFL draft picks off the Defense.
Their best QB in school history and their most productive WR in school history.

And they were ranked 9th.

That was a joke...and most (I think) knew it going in.

[tarcone]

Welcome to the B1G, Rutgers. Keep beating the Pac.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Wait...they lost 8 starters off last years team. and 16 off the 2 deep.
They lost the #1 overall draft pick. Plus 3 other NFL draft picks off the Defense.
Their best QB in school history and their most productive WR in school history.

And they were ranked 9th.

That was a joke...and most (I think) knew it going in.

I had 'em 8th.

They lost a player that showed as little heart as any I've ever watched.

They replaced their best QB in history with a senior backup that had played major minutes in wins at UCF and at Missouri last year, in wins at Clemson and over Michigan in a bowl game two years ago

The WR was gone but a nearly 1,200 yard rusher returned, as did three receivers with significant experience, plenty of catches & yards & touchdowns between them.

Last night was an egg of epic proportions. Maybe that's the real SC but if so, it's not one that was easily foreseeable.

[Matthean]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Wait...they lost 8 starters off last years team. and 16 off the 2 deep.
They lost the #1 overall draft pick. Plus 3 other NFL draft picks off the Defense.
Their best QB in school history and their most productive WR in school history.

And they were ranked 9th.

That was a joke...and most (I think) knew it going in.

Returning 7 on a side is still decent and that's what they were doing on average. This was as good of a SC team they have had under Spurrier or at least that was the thinking. They also were as good of a pick to make the SEC title game as anybody in the East.

[Butter]

The SEC East is now what the SEC West was in the late 90s... A sad and much weaker division than the other side. I think we are going to learn similar things about Georgia on Saturday.

[panerd]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

The SEC East is now what the SEC West was in the late 90s... A sad and much weaker division than the other side. I think we are going to learn similar things about Georgia on Saturday.

Two of the top 5 teams in last year's final poll were in that division.

[panerd]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Agreed..but ESPN has a vested interest in certain teams and will try to write the story instead of report it...

I'm not going to argue since SCar is definitely overrated but assuming you are a Clemson fan I would probably not get too angry at a preseason treatment your school also enjoys every year while never really doing anything to deserve it. Plus haven't you lost like 6 in a row to them?

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

The SEC East is now what the SEC West was in the late 90s... A sad and much weaker division than the other side. I think we are going to learn similar things about Georgia on Saturday.

I'd love for you to be right but, honestly, I think this is the most dangerous Georgia team in a number of years.

If they don't outsmart themselves offensively (which they've done in the past) and if they finally have a DC that can get even 80% performance out of their athletes on defense, they could be downright scary.

And anybody who knows me knows how it disgusts me to say that.

[Lathum]

Sparty nation holding their breath right now. There QB took an ugly hit to the knee and was carried off.

[molson]

It was pretty disappointing to learn that DirecTV, which I, and probably many others, hold onto only for sports, does not have a deal with ESPN to let customers access the ESPN device apps. My internet provider gives me ESPN3 access on my desktop, but not on my roku or tablet. And the desktop live streaming version of ESPN3 has no DVR function, and won't even let me go full screen. So I'm watching Syracuse/Villanova on a tiny window on my desktop monitor.

I guess I shouldn't really complain, it's pretty crazy that I can watch this hugely obscure game across the country at all. But if I can't do it easily, it makes it much easier to cut the cord.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

I'd love for you to be right but, honestly, I think this is the most dangerous Georgia team in a number of years.

If they don't outsmart themselves offensively (which they've done in the past) and if they finally have a DC that can get even 80% performance out of their athletes on defense, they could be downright scary.

And anybody who knows me knows how it disgusts me to say that.

Gurley is a hell of a player, but they are missing some other key offensive players and have never been great shakes on defense. But we shall see tomorrow.... That's why they play the games.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by panerd

I'm not going to argue since SCar is definitely overrated but assuming you are a Clemson fan I would probably not get too angry at a preseason treatment your school also enjoys every year while never really doing anything to deserve it. Plus haven't you lost like 6 in a row to them?

Uh hh..what?!?

Three years in row Clemson has ended the season ranked 5+ positions higher than they started it.
And yes Clemson has list FIVE in a row to SC....but that is also my point. After out gaining SC almost 2:1 but losing on 6 turnovers. Clemson lost much less than SC, doesn't play the mighty SEC schedule and starts the season 8 positions below SC.

SC run the last few years was built on the brains and talent evaluations largely of Ellis Johnson, and the S&c genius of coach Fitz. We are now two years removed from both bolting ...

Not to mention Brad Lawing who developed all those D linemen headed to Florida and took his probation causing bag with him.

They have also benefitted from the biggest simultaneous ineptitude of UF and UT in SEC history.

SC will win 7 games this year in my opinion....and less next year.

[CU Tiger]

Originally Posted by Butter_of_69

Gurley is a hell of a player, but they are missing some other key offensive players and have never been great shakes on defense. But we shall see tomorrow.... That's why they play the games.

Pruitt will do wonders with that defense, but not in week 1.
Have to think Chad Morris is licking his chops looking at that secondary, and having a more accurate and patient QB...

Plus arguably the best and inarguably the deepest dline in the nation...tomorrow night could be fun.

I'll be there either way. I'm not ready to predict a Clemson win, but when I got +10 three weeks ago I made a play...the line is now down to 7.5 and I think that is too high...but Vegas puts about 5.5 points on Athens...so 2 is probably fair

[panerd]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

Uh hh..what?!?

Three years in row Clemson has ended the season ranked 5+ positions higher than they started it.
And yes Clemson has list FIVE in a row to SC....but that is also my point. After out gaining SC almost 2:1 but losing on 6 turnovers. Clemson lost much less than SC, doesn't play the mighty SEC schedule and starts the season 8 positions below SC.

SC run the last few years was built on the brains and talent evaluations largely of Ellis Johnson, and the S&c genius of coach Fitz. We are now two years removed from both bolting ...

Not to mention Brad Lawing who developed all those D linemen headed to Florida and took his probation causing bag with him.

They have also benefitted from the biggest simultaneous ineptitude of UF and UT in SEC history.

SC will win 7 games this year in my opinion....and less next year.

I think you are mistaking my comments as either pro South Carolina or pro SEC. You made a comment that SC (and the entire SEC) are a product of ESPN hype. My response was to be careful because anyone outside the Clemson fan base will tell you that your school is national title hyped every year by the same network. You get the exact same overhype that you laugh at when SC gets it.

[Butter]

Originally Posted by panerd

Two of the top 5 teams in last year's final poll were in that division.

Yes, you are right about last year... I forgot Mizzou was over there. But this year, I predict that only 1 of the 7 teams on that side will finish in the top 25 (prior to bowl season).

[Butter]

Originally Posted by panerd

My response was to be careful because anyone outside the Clemson fan base will tell you that your school is national title hyped every year by the same network. You get the exact same overhype that you laugh at when SC gets it.

Really? The first time I can remember Clemson getting any national respect was after beating LSU in the 2012 Peach Bowl... then the following season (last year), they were talked about as a contender. Before that it was nothing but "Clemsoning"... let's see how Clemson can blow it this year!

But if you think being preseason ranked #16 and zero out of 23 ESPN predictors picking Clemson to make the 4 team playoff as being "national title hyped", then I don't know what to tell you.

[Butter]

Holy crap, UCF looks lost on offense without Blake Bortles. I think they have less than 50 yards of offense halfway through the third quarter.

[cartman]

That was an exciting end to the UCF-Penn State game. UCF scored a touchdown after converting a 4th and 10 with an incredible catch, and Penn State drives down and kicks the winning FG as time expires.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by CU Tiger

That was a joke...and most (I think) knew it going in.

Not so much necromancing this sub-topic as finally getting around to doing something I meant to do when I first saw this post

The totally not actual AP (etc) voters top 25s here at FOFC had SC in the following positions in the pre-season:

5, 12, 10, 8, 9, 7, 10, 9 ... for an aggregate of 9

That's exactly the same spot that 60 AP voters and 62 USA Today voters put them.

We may have all been wrong about them, but I'm pretty sure that's a sign that there was indeed a strong consensus belief about them.

[BillJasper]

UCLA having a tough time blocking the Virginia front four.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by BillJasper

UCLA having a tough time blocking the Virginia front four.

It's the blitzing they can't pick up, but they are missing four OL from last year so it'sbeen a rough going.

[BillJasper]

It's the UCLA defense that ends up breaking the game open.

[SirFozzie]

Three Defensive Touchdowns for UCLA... yeesh.

[MrBug708]

UCLA's D is pretty underrated nationally but should be one of the best in the PAC-12 and nation.

Our offense is looking terrible. This should end Hundley's Heisman campaign

[BillJasper]

Maybe I spoke too soon? Matt Johns looked great and gets the ball first in the second half.

[Noop]

I really like Hundley but he needs to tighten up a bit (granted his receivers dropping passes has to mess with his rhythm.

[Lathum]

this may be a rough start to the season for the BIG10. Iowa, Illinois, and tOSU all down or in close games right now.

[Butter]

Ohio State's offensive line is getting manhandled.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by Noop

I really like Hundley but he needs to tighten up a bit (granted his receivers dropping passes has to mess with his rhythm.

Passing vision is a big obstacle that he needs to overcome. Hasn't really improved in three years now

[Easy Mac]

Someone should tell nc state that Georgia southern isn't 1aa anymore.