What I Hate Most about FOF2004 - Page 2

SnowMan · 11-18-2003, 10:16 PM

I have a tendency to forget where I put my mouse...give me a few minutes to find it, so I can click "send reply"......

Dutch · 11-18-2003, 10:53 PM

??? Bucc, did you name your computer? And did you name it "Clark"?

Edit, disregard.......I was thinking about Win95 or something...profiles...I remember now.

cuervo72 · 11-19-2003, 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SkyDog
That was the desktop of the desktop.

Here's the laptop:

Buc, you may not believe it, but I know where every single icon is, so I can get to everything I need, without any visual searching, in one click.

Where have the Teletubbies gone?

(Bucc's reminds me I still haven't played Imperialism II! It's just sitting there...)

Maple Leafs · 11-19-2003, 08:15 AM

Now that this has turned into a "post a pitcure of your desktop" thread, is anyone else waiting for the inevitable moment when someone posts one and forgets to delete the "shortcut to goatporn.org" icon?

Bee · 11-19-2003, 08:23 AM

SkyDog.

There seems to be a problem. I keep clicking on that shortcut to the tpf.exe file, but nothing happens. You should report that to Arlie.

Buccaneer · 11-19-2003, 08:24 AM

I wasn't thinking (or responding) too well last night so I missed the most obvious reason of all: TCY. In that game, there are only two windows, email and conference. Everything else is accessible through tabbed controls or toolbar icons. Since each screen is modal, it is the only one you can have open at any time (i.e., you must close it before you open another. These would be screens like roster, almanac-like, depth charts, records, etc. To me that worked great and I don't recall hearing many complaints about it here. I understand the reason for not doing it that way in FOF (MFC bugs and too many choices) but still, I guess I got in the habit of operating FOF just like I do TCY.

Bonegavel · 11-19-2003, 08:30 AM

Regardless of need, every time I open the game i click on the toolbar icons for all the menus, and then pain-stakingly place them around the screen. I don't care if I don't use them, I feel naked without them all open. However, I use every dialog box each week.

I look at the roster the most.

I edit global options week to week.

I set game plans and depth chart between games.

I look at the standings in my conference weekly.

I look at email between games.

I look at stats after the game.

That is every dialog box and I use them between each game. If I had open and close them every time I would go insane.

Butter · 11-19-2003, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cuervo72
Where have the Teletubbies gone?

Just to let you know that your constant children show references crack at least one person here up.

Ben E Lou · 11-19-2003, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Buccaneer
To me that worked great and I don't recall hearing many complaints about it here.

I'm not complaining about TCY. Heck, I logged many more hours on that than I did on FOF4 (but I'm guessing that FOF2K4 is gonna trump TCY). My only point is that the FOF4/2K4 interfaces work better for me than TCY. Everything is two clicks away in TCY. Everything is one click away with the two latest pro games, when the windows are open.

Buccaneer · 11-19-2003, 08:35 AM

I understand.

Bonegavel · 11-19-2003, 08:46 AM

I think Cla..., I mean, Bucc is talking about 2 different things. Every window that opens from the main dialog boxes (the ones accesible from the toolbar and not the choices in those boxes) is modal. IOW, you can't have the roster open, and a depth chart screen open or any combo thereof.

We are talking about the toolbar button boxes that open and give you the myriad of choices. Those need to be sticky.

Bonegavel · 11-19-2003, 08:54 AM

dola,

here is what I mean.

This is what you get by default:

This is what I have to do every time I open the game.

If you understood this part, I apologize. However, your one post above didn't seem to jive with this.

cuervo72 · 11-19-2003, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Butter_of_69
Just to let you know that your constant children show references crack at least one person here up.

Buccaneer · 11-19-2003, 09:01 AM

Compare that with TCY (many of the same choices are there) and you can see the difference (or my personal preference). I do understand however but I tend to be more simplistic and single-tracked in my approach (hence the reason I showed my desktop). I wouldn't want (or need) all of these windows open at the same time but I do understand how other might. I just don't have a problem with the way Jim did it personally. Nothing more to it than that.

cuervo72 · 11-19-2003, 09:05 AM

Oh, and this is one of the reasons I liked the roster/depth charts in 1 window; I don't use all of the depth chart info every week, so it's ok if they are in a window where I have to scroll. Not having the separate window saves space for the e-mail field, which is just in the way as it stands now, overlapping 3 other windows. I know there was a lobby to break up the windows, but I prefer how it was in FOF4 (initially, anyway).

Bonegavel · 11-19-2003, 09:05 AM

Understood Bucc. I am more of a scatter brain and, as a result, I am always clicking on something like a bird pecking at bread crumbs in Trafalgar Square.

Bonegavel · 11-19-2003, 09:12 AM

Found a pic to show what I meant.

Bonegavel · 11-19-2003, 09:22 AM

Subby · 11-19-2003, 09:46 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHA.

Thanks, BG

Bonegavel · 11-19-2003, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Subby
HAHAHAHAHAHA.

Thanks, BG

Anytime. Hope Bucc sees this and, unlike Luke, does the right thing.

WSUCougar · 11-19-2003, 03:31 PM

Get The Bonenator the ball, he's hot.

CubsFan915 · 11-19-2003, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Flasch186
Let me ask you this:

Is Jim going to slap passwords on the teams so that owners cant cheat by changing other peoples gameplans and uploading them to the Commish? If not it almost renders any competitve league unusable.

Commish
USFL

Or make it so that the draft doesn't have to be run in one fell swoop for MP?

Bonegavel · 11-19-2003, 04:48 PM

This is what I imagine Bucc's dream version to look like (minus darth vader, of course)

airitallout · 11-20-2003, 08:46 PM

My question is this: Will we be able to offer Jeff George a contract?

JeeberD · 04-08-2004, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonegavel

This is what you get by default:

This is what I have to do every time I open the game.

BG-

How To Set FOF2K4 Windows Permanently

It ain't difficult to do. Here's how my FOF window is now permanently set...

If you want I can post the coordinates that I use to get that...

GoldenEagle · 04-08-2004, 01:59 AM

Hey! El Paso is in front of Fargo!

mckerney · 04-08-2004, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Hey! El Paso is in front of Fargo!

Teams must have been ranked by someone other than Delbert Lonergan.

JeeberD · 04-08-2004, 02:03 AM

El Paso will be the showcase franchise of the league in a few short years...

mckerney · 04-08-2004, 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeeberD

El Paso will be the showcase franchise of the league in a few short years...

Find any takes for the pick yet?

JeeberD · 04-08-2004, 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mckerney

Teams must have been ranked by someone other than Delbert Lonergan.

Eh, Lonergan is a mediocre tight end at best. And who would want anyone named Delbert on their team anyways...

JeeberD · 04-08-2004, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mckerney

Find any takes for the pick yet?

I think I have something worked out. Just need confirmation....

11-18-2003, 10:53 PM	#52
Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	??? Bucc, did you name your computer? And did you name it "Clark"? Edit, disregard.......I was thinking about Win95 or something...profiles...I remember now. Last edited by Dutch : 11-18-2003 at 10:54 PM.

11-19-2003, 08:30 AM	#57
Bonegavel Awaiting Further Instructions... Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Macungie, PA	Regardless of need, every time I open the game i click on the toolbar icons for all the menus, and then pain-stakingly place them around the screen. I don't care if I don't use them, I feel naked without them all open. However, I use every dialog box each week. I look at the roster the most. I edit global options week to week. I set game plans and depth chart between games. I look at the standings in my conference weekly. I look at email between games. I look at stats after the game. That is every dialog box and I use them between each game. If I had open and close them every time I would go insane. __________________

11-19-2003, 08:46 AM	#61
Bonegavel Awaiting Further Instructions... Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Macungie, PA	I think Cla..., I mean, Bucc is talking about 2 different things. Every window that opens from the main dialog boxes (the ones accesible from the toolbar and not the choices in those boxes) is modal. IOW, you can't have the roster open, and a depth chart screen open or any combo thereof. We are talking about the toolbar button boxes that open and give you the myriad of choices. Those need to be sticky. __________________

11-19-2003, 09:01 AM	#64
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	Compare that with TCY (many of the same choices are there) and you can see the difference (or my personal preference). I do understand however but I tend to be more simplistic and single-tracked in my approach (hence the reason I showed my desktop). I wouldn't want (or need) all of these windows open at the same time but I do understand how other might. I just don't have a problem with the way Jim did it personally. Nothing more to it than that. Last edited by Buccaneer : 11-19-2003 at 09:02 AM.

11-19-2003, 09:05 AM	#65
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Oh, and this is one of the reasons I liked the roster/depth charts in 1 window; I don't use all of the depth chart info every week, so it's ok if they are in a window where I have to scroll. Not having the separate window saves space for the e-mail field, which is just in the way as it stands now, overlapping 3 other windows. I know there was a lobby to break up the windows, but I prefer how it was in FOF4 (initially, anyway). __________________ null

11-19-2003, 08:15 AM	#54
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Now that this has turned into a "post a pitcure of your desktop" thread, is anyone else waiting for the inevitable moment when someone posts one and forgets to delete the "shortcut to goatporn.org" icon?

11-19-2003, 08:23 AM	#55
Bee Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA	SkyDog. There seems to be a problem. I keep clicking on that shortcut to the tpf.exe file, but nothing happens. You should report that to Arlie.

11-19-2003, 08:24 AM	#56
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	I wasn't thinking (or responding) too well last night so I missed the most obvious reason of all: TCY. In that game, there are only two windows, email and conference. Everything else is accessible through tabbed controls or toolbar icons. Since each screen is modal, it is the only one you can have open at any time (i.e., you must close it before you open another. These would be screens like roster, almanac-like, depth charts, records, etc. To me that worked great and I don't recall hearing many complaints about it here. I understand the reason for not doing it that way in FOF (MFC bugs and too many choices) but still, I guess I got in the habit of operating FOF just like I do TCY.

11-19-2003, 08:35 AM	#60
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	I understand.

11-19-2003, 08:54 AM	#62
Bonegavel Awaiting Further Instructions... Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Macungie, PA	dola, here is what I mean. This is what you get by default: This is what I have to do every time I open the game. If you understood this part, I apologize. However, your one post above didn't seem to jive with this.

11-19-2003, 09:12 AM	#67
Bonegavel Awaiting Further Instructions... Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Macungie, PA	Found a pic to show what I meant.

11-19-2003, 09:22 AM	#68
Bonegavel Awaiting Further Instructions... Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Macungie, PA

11-19-2003, 09:46 AM	#69
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	HAHAHAHAHAHA. Thanks, BG __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com

11-19-2003, 03:31 PM	#71
WSUCougar Rider Of Rohan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Port Angeles, WA or Helm's Deep	Get The Bonenator the ball, he's hot. __________________ It's not the years...it's the mileage.

11-19-2003, 04:48 PM	#73
Bonegavel Awaiting Further Instructions... Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Macungie, PA	This is what I imagine Bucc's dream version to look like (minus darth vader, of course)

11-20-2003, 08:46 PM	#74
airitallout n00b Join Date: Nov 2003	My question is this: Will we be able to offer Jeff George a contract?

04-08-2004, 01:59 AM	#76
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	Hey! El Paso is in front of Fargo!

04-08-2004, 02:03 AM	#78
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	El Paso will be the showcase franchise of the league in a few short years... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

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