Where do we go from here? - Page 2

cthomer5000 · 01-09-2004, 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by cuervo72
Yes, I would imagine you would only include the box scores and game logs that you generated since the last sim. You could keep a repository somewhere, if folks missed some of them. I had thought the game files themselves zipped down pretty tidily, but maybe they grow faster than I'd thought.

yeah, i was thinking the exact same thing. It would be easy enough to have a directory set up with:

current league file
last weeks boxscores & logs
ALL past boxscores (per season)
ALL past game logs (per season)
up-to-date complete league file (everything)

Vince · 01-09-2004, 03:02 PM

So here are the issues it seems we need to figure out before we can get started...

1) Commissioner
2) League Setup/Constitution
3) Participation

Is it too early to ask for a vote on who will be commissioner? We have quite a few possibilities/applicants. The way I see it, we have cuervo72, cthomer5000, Dutch or Fido. I personally think any of them would be a great choice, and am not worried about Dutch or Fido losing interest. I think (perhaps I am too gratuitous with my feelings) that they would stick with it, so am not too worried about them ditching us.

As for current attendence/participation...Just in this thread alone, I count over half our owners posting.

Hell Atlantic
SkyDog
Celeval
cthomer5000
Samdari
Kodos
Fritz
FBPro
albionmoonlight
MIJB#19
cuervo72
Chief Rum
Alf
Vince
Subby
Buzzbee
mckerney

I'm certain that Jim's lack of appearance isn't because of lack of interest, nor is QuikSand's. Not sure what to make of Tobias, but I'm almost positive that once we 'call roll' that people will come out of the woodwork.

cuervo - Do you need/want any help in forming the constitution? What have you gotten done, what needs to be done, and are you waiting on anyone/thing to finish it?

I think that once we get some things moving, the league will pick up steam all on its own, and that's what I'm looking forward to.

cuervo72 · 01-09-2004, 03:09 PM

Vince, this is what I have so far: http://cuervo72.majecc.net/IHOF-Constitution.html

Obviously it isn't complete, and what's there is taken from the FOBL and amended. Eventually I was hoping to break this down into sections that can be discussed, and then we can make modifications. There's really no reason why we can't do that for some of the sections already there, I probably should have already. I'm hoping to continue with this soon. Anyone who wants to help out by proposing sections is welcome to of course.

Vince · 01-09-2004, 03:33 PM

So how's about this for a suggestion?

Board of Governers -
Commissioner: Dutch
AFC President: cthomer5000
NFC President: cuervo72

We can leave the majority of the decision making and process to the presidents, that way the people who are worried about a non-owner in charge will be slightly appeased, and we can let Dutch still have his authority and keep us moving in the right direction.

I think what you have there so far is fine, cuervo. It's the other parts of the constitution that I think we need to worry about. I think everyone has agreed upon organization, governance (although we still don't know who the governers are) and ownership. I'm going to go track down the FOBL website and see if there's anything I can add to the current Constitution.

MrIllini · 01-09-2004, 04:35 PM

so this thing isn't a 3 and out after all?

Vince · 01-09-2004, 05:31 PM

Well, cuervo is scrambling, cthomer just saved a sack and I've broken off my route to try to get open. HA is screaming from the sidelines...

The play is still going on, but it's starting to look better.

Buzzbee · 01-09-2004, 05:48 PM

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Originally posted by Vince
Well, cuervo is scrambling, cthomer just saved a sack and I've broken off my route to try to get open. HA is screaming from the sidelines...

The play is still going on, but it's starting to look better.

And Buzzbee is drifting out to the flats as a safety valve.

I hope to solidify some testing plans this weekend. At this point I am seriously considering doing all the testing myself and posting the scenarios/results. This way I can control the scenarios, and it will probably speed up testing since I won't have to wait for people to submit files.

I'm still interested in any suggestions as to what areas I need to test out, and any particular questions that we need answers to for league structure/policies purposes.

Example: Will it be feasible to do the staff hiring within the game or will we need to do it oustide the game. If outside, how will we make the changes in the game once staff hiring is done.

Example: What are the specific mechanics of making a trade, and will we need policies/procedures to execute those trades.

Some of this stuff may have already been answered by other leagues who have progressed further and we may be able to ride thier coattails. If anyone has seen juicy tidbits such as these in other leagues, feel free to post them.

Once I have a test plan outlined, I will start another thread to post the scenarios/results and to gather suggestions for additional scenarios.

Vince · 01-09-2004, 06:54 PM

Excellent work Buzzbee. If you do need help, I'll be glad to do what I can.

Anthony · 01-09-2004, 07:48 PM

yay. i'm a coach.

just warn me before you dump the Gatorade on me.

Buccaneer · 01-09-2004, 09:13 PM

I check here everyday but I have been busy playing (and extremely enjoying) Gothic II.

cthomer5000 · 01-10-2004, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Vince
So how's about this for a suggestion?

Board of Governers -
Commissioner: Dutch
AFC President: cthomer5000
NFC President: cuervo72

Works for me. Cuervo or I is there to jump in if needed, and we have a strong leadership group right off the bat.

SackAttack · 01-11-2004, 01:30 AM

I'm still around. Just waiting for this thing to get up off the ground.

Anthony · 01-11-2004, 02:10 AM

i like this set-up too. i think you'll have a hard time finding anyone who'll object to those 3 in charge. we should make it official.

Anthony · 01-11-2004, 02:13 AM

when the hell am i gonna get a nice title under my name like most people have around here? i was thinking "FOFC Legend" or "Dean Houston Fan Club President".

or "He With The Schlong Like A Python".

Ben E Lou · 01-11-2004, 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hell Atlantic

when the hell am i gonna get a nice title under my name like most people have around here? i was thinking "FOFC Legend" or "Dean Houston Fan Club President".

or "He With The Schlong Like A Python".

So let it be written. So let it be done.

Senator · 01-17-2004, 10:00 AM

Dear Fan Club President Hell,

Why did Dean slap that little boy?

signed,

Joey

Dean Houston · 01-17-2004, 08:36 PM

You don't hurt me when you smear this filth on my good name.

All you do is rip the heart of of every little Johnny and Jane in the USA who's ever had a dream for greatness, who's ever followed their idol's conquests on the playing field. You take that away from them.

What kind of country will we turn out to be when we take away our children's role models? Shame on you.

Celeval · 01-19-2004, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Houston

Dean Houston
Mascot

So who's team has DH as a mascot, anyhow?

Chubby · 01-19-2004, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Houston

You don't hurt me when you smear this filth on my good name.

All you do is rip the heart of of every little Johnny and Jane in the USA who's ever had a dream for greatness, who's ever followed their idol's conquests on the playing field. You take that away from them.

What kind of country will we turn out to be when we take away our children's role models? Shame on you.

What a bum, took 3 1/2 years to get his 1st post...

Dean Houston · 01-20-2004, 01:04 AM

My words of wisdom from the other message baords were not carried over.

I'd watch myself if I were you, Chubby, while I may be retired from the game I'm never too old to strap on the ole helmet and pads and serve you some hard-learned lessons Cleveland Browns style. Don't let the flecks of gray mislead you.

You don't get your own wing in the Hall Of Fame for being some prissy td-throwing prima donna. I've knocked the blocks off my share of defenders on the rare occasion I threw an INT. I've stopped an INT from being returned for a td more than once - I was the last line of defense. My career was one of performing all facets of the game.

So let a retired legend of the game be.

FargoFreez aka fof playa · 01-20-2004, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Houston

You don't get your own wing in the Hall Of Fame for being some prissy td-throwing prima donna.

Wing? Dean, have you been mixing your drinking problems with Zoloft again?

Chubby · 01-20-2004, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dean Houston

I'd watch myself if I were you, Chubby, while I may be retired from the game I'm never too old to strap on the ole helmet and pads and serve you some hard-learned lessons Cleveland Browns style. Don't let the flecks of gray mislead you.

You mean by pissing away playoff games at the last moment every time? Oh no don't hurt me

01-09-2004, 03:02 PM	#52
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	So here are the issues it seems we need to figure out before we can get started... 1) Commissioner 2) League Setup/Constitution 3) Participation Is it too early to ask for a vote on who will be commissioner? We have quite a few possibilities/applicants. The way I see it, we have cuervo72, cthomer5000, Dutch or Fido. I personally think any of them would be a great choice, and am not worried about Dutch or Fido losing interest. I think (perhaps I am too gratuitous with my feelings) that they would stick with it, so am not too worried about them ditching us. As for current attendence/participation...Just in this thread alone, I count over half our owners posting. Hell Atlantic SkyDog Celeval cthomer5000 Samdari Kodos Fritz FBPro albionmoonlight MIJB#19 cuervo72 Chief Rum Alf Vince Subby Buzzbee mckerney I'm certain that Jim's lack of appearance isn't because of lack of interest, nor is QuikSand's. Not sure what to make of Tobias, but I'm almost positive that once we 'call roll' that people will come out of the woodwork. cuervo - Do you need/want any help in forming the constitution? What have you gotten done, what needs to be done, and are you waiting on anyone/thing to finish it? I think that once we get some things moving, the league will pick up steam all on its own, and that's what I'm looking forward to. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

01-09-2004, 03:09 PM	#53
cuervo72 Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maryland	Vince, this is what I have so far: http://cuervo72.majecc.net/IHOF-Constitution.html Obviously it isn't complete, and what's there is taken from the FOBL and amended. Eventually I was hoping to break this down into sections that can be discussed, and then we can make modifications. There's really no reason why we can't do that for some of the sections already there, I probably should have already. I'm hoping to continue with this soon. Anyone who wants to help out by proposing sections is welcome to of course. __________________ null

01-09-2004, 03:33 PM	#54
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	So how's about this for a suggestion? Board of Governers - Commissioner: Dutch AFC President: cthomer5000 NFC President: cuervo72 We can leave the majority of the decision making and process to the presidents, that way the people who are worried about a non-owner in charge will be slightly appeased, and we can let Dutch still have his authority and keep us moving in the right direction. I think what you have there so far is fine, cuervo. It's the other parts of the constitution that I think we need to worry about. I think everyone has agreed upon organization, governance (although we still don't know who the governers are) and ownership. I'm going to go track down the FOBL website and see if there's anything I can add to the current Constitution. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

01-09-2004, 04:35 PM	#55
MrIllini High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where you live	so this thing isn't a 3 and out after all? __________________ if i said you had a beautiful body, would you hold it against me?

01-09-2004, 05:31 PM	#56
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	Well, cuervo is scrambling, cthomer just saved a sack and I've broken off my route to try to get open. HA is screaming from the sidelines... The play is still going on, but it's starting to look better. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

01-09-2004, 06:54 PM	#58
Vince Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Willow Glen, CA	Excellent work Buzzbee. If you do need help, I'll be glad to do what I can. __________________ Every time a Dodger scores a run, an angel has its wings ripped off by a demon, and is forced to tearfully beg the demon to cauterize the wounds.The demon will refuse, and the sobbing angel will lie in a puddle of angel blood and feathers for eternity, wondering why the Dodgers are allowed to score runs.That’s not me talking: that’s science. McCoveyChronicles.com.

01-09-2004, 07:48 PM	#59
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	yay. i'm a coach. just warn me before you dump the Gatorade on me.

01-09-2004, 09:13 PM	#60
Buccaneer Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Colorado	I check here everyday but I have been busy playing (and extremely enjoying) Gothic II.

01-11-2004, 01:30 AM	#62
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	I'm still around. Just waiting for this thing to get up off the ground.

01-11-2004, 02:10 AM	#63
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	i like this set-up too. i think you'll have a hard time finding anyone who'll object to those 3 in charge. we should make it official.

01-11-2004, 02:13 AM	#64
Anthony Banned Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Astoria, NY, USA	when the hell am i gonna get a nice title under my name like most people have around here? i was thinking "FOFC Legend" or "Dean Houston Fan Club President". or "He With The Schlong Like A Python".

01-17-2004, 10:00 AM	#66
Senator FOFC's Elected Representative Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The stars at night; are big and bright	Dear Fan Club President Hell, Why did Dean slap that little boy? signed, Joey __________________ "i have seen chris simms play 4-5 times in the pros and he's very clearly got it. he won't make a pro bowl this year, but it'll come. if you don't like me saying that, so be it, but its true. we'll just have to wait until then" imettrentgreen "looking at only ten games, and oddly using a median only, leaves me unmoved generally" - Quiksand

01-17-2004, 08:36 PM	#67
Dean Houston Child-Slapping Jerk Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cleveland, Ohio, USA	You don't hurt me when you smear this filth on my good name. All you do is rip the heart of of every little Johnny and Jane in the USA who's ever had a dream for greatness, who's ever followed their idol's conquests on the playing field. You take that away from them. What kind of country will we turn out to be when we take away our children's role models? Shame on you. __________________ I am America's favorite son. I am what legends and miracles are made of.

01-20-2004, 01:04 AM	#70
Dean Houston Child-Slapping Jerk Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Cleveland, Ohio, USA	My words of wisdom from the other message baords were not carried over. I'd watch myself if I were you, Chubby, while I may be retired from the game I'm never too old to strap on the ole helmet and pads and serve you some hard-learned lessons Cleveland Browns style. Don't let the flecks of gray mislead you. You don't get your own wing in the Hall Of Fame for being some prissy td-throwing prima donna. I've knocked the blocks off my share of defenders on the rare occasion I threw an INT. I've stopped an INT from being returned for a td more than once - I was the last line of defense. My career was one of performing all facets of the game. So let a retired legend of the game be. __________________ I am America's favorite son. I am what legends and miracles are made of.

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