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Old 12-14-2004, 10:36 AM   #51
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Remember that this is just the first round predicting, there's still a second round predictions round and a big knock-out phase prediction round coming up to turn the standings all upside down.
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Old 12-17-2004, 10:16 AM   #52
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Second round predictions
Eight matchups, eight teams will advance. Simply list your eight winners.

Real Madrid - Juventus
FC Porto - Internazionale
Barcelona - Chelsea
Werder Bremen - Olympique Lyon
Liverpool - Bayer Leverkusen
PSV Eindhoven - AS Monaco
Manchester United - Milan AC
Bayern München - Arsenal


My prediction
Real Madrid
Internazionale
Barcelona
Werder Bremen
Bayer Leverkusen
PSV Eindhoven
Manchester United
Arsenal
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Old 12-17-2004, 10:35 AM   #53
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Real Madrid - Juventus
FC Porto - Internazionale
Barcelona - Chelsea
Werder Bremen - Olympique Lyon
Liverpool - Bayer Leverkusen
PSV Eindhoven - AS Monaco
Manchester United - Milan AC
Bayern München - Arsenal

Three GREAT matches. Will be excellent viewing methinks.
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Old 12-17-2004, 10:44 AM   #54
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Real Madrid - Juventus
FC Porto - Internazionale
Barcelona - Chelsea
Werder Bremen - Olympique Lyon
Liverpool - Bayer Leverkusen
PSV Eindhoven - AS Monaco
Manchester United - Milan AC
Bayern München - Arsenal


My Prediction:

RM
Porto
Chelski
WB
BL
Monaco
Milan
Arsenal
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Old 12-17-2004, 10:48 AM   #55
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Juventus
Internazionale
Barcelona
Olympique Lyon
Bayer Leverkusen
AS Monaco
Manchester United
Arsenal

Some very good games in there...can't wait to see the result of the PSV-Monaco one...
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Old 12-17-2004, 12:13 PM   #56
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Juventus
Internazionale
Chelsea
Werder Bremen
Bayer Leverkusen
PSV Eindhoven
Milan AC
Bayern München
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Old 12-17-2004, 12:19 PM   #57
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Juve
Porto
Chelsea
Lyon
Liverpool
Monaco
Milan
Arsenal
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Old 12-17-2004, 05:20 PM   #58
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Three GREAT matches. Will be excellent viewing methinks.
I'd qualify Bayern vs Arsenal as a big matchup too.
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Old 12-17-2004, 06:09 PM   #59
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Juventus
Inter
Barcelona
Lyon
Leverkusen
Monaco
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Old 12-17-2004, 06:14 PM   #60
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Here are cartman's can't miss picks (as opposed to the first round, where you wanted to stay as far away as possible)

Juventus
Inter
Chelsea
Olympique Lyon
Liverpool
PSV Eindhoven
Milan
Arsenal
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Old 12-17-2004, 08:09 PM   #61
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Internazionale
Chelsea
Olympique Lyon
Liverpool
PSV Eindhoven
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Old 12-17-2004, 08:11 PM   #62
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Argh! I just noticed my picks are exactly the same as Cartman's. Great minds think alike, or something.
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Old 02-10-2005, 08:47 AM   #63
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A little bumpy for the last16 games being played in less than 2 weeks.
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Old 02-10-2005, 08:57 AM   #64
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UEFA Champions League Matches
Real Madrid - Juventus
Barcelona - Chelsea
Manchester United - Milan AC
Bayern München - Arsenal

Intertoto Matches
FC Porto - Internazionale
Werder Bremen - Olympique Lyon
Liverpool - Bayer Leverkusen
PSV Eindhoven - AS Monaco

My prediction
RM (you know, I live in Madrid).
Chelsea (Two great attacks, but Chelsea seems more solid for me)
Milan (Very even..... I think Italian defense is slightly better)
Bayern (Kahn is a friend for Henry)

Inter (No Mourinho, no good)
Lyon (err well does anybody cares?)
Liverpool (Benitez has a better team)
Monaco (Saviola??)
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Old 02-10-2005, 09:28 AM   #65
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Real Madrid - starting to find their stride, and can't pick against the talent

Inter - tough call, but I don't think porto is as good as last year

Chelsea - running through everyone at this point, great matchup though

Olympique Lyon - I got nothing

Bayer Leverkusen - different story if Morientes could play, but no Morientes, Cisse, pongolle, kewell = no goals for Liverpool

PSV Eindhoven - PSV can afford to focus on CL, love Demarcus, & Monaco can't do it again (edit - I was thinking they had a big lead on Ajax, didn't realize AZ was only 2 pts back)

Manchester United - Hate em, but the've looked pretty damn good lately as long as there are no goalkeeping gaffes.

Bayern München - Arsenal have looked whipped lately (barring last weekend) and they always collapse in the CL ... eventually.

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Old 02-18-2005, 04:13 PM   #66
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The prediction game continues and lists of eight winners posted before February 22nd 2:45 pm EST will be accepted. I'll probably make a bump or two in the next few days as well.
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Old 02-18-2005, 10:41 PM   #67
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Porto
Chelsea
Werder Bremen
Bayer Leverkusen
PSV Eindhoven
Milan
Arsenal
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Old 02-19-2005, 08:06 AM   #68
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Werder Bremen
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Old 02-21-2005, 04:52 AM   #69
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Special bump for rufusjonz and Aadik so they can defend their 3rd places overall a bit better. Others are free to enter as well, though.
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Old 02-21-2005, 05:11 AM   #70
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Real Madrid - Juventus
FC Porto - Internazionale
Barcelona
- Chelsea
Werder Bremen - Olympique Lyon
Liverpool - Bayer Leverkusen
PSV Eindhoven - AS Monaco
Manchester United - Milan AC
Bayern München - Arsenal
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Old 02-21-2005, 11:32 AM   #71
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Juventus
Inter
Barcelona

Lyon
Liverpool
Monaco
Milan
Arsenal
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Old 02-21-2005, 11:38 AM   #72
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Real Madrid in a canter over a Juventus team
Barcelona to come through over Chelsea - especially without Robben
Milan- though this is as much about wishing as predicting
Arsenal - Perhaps generous, but when free-flowing, this is the best team in Europe

FC Porto - Internazionale (Inter - no doubt)
Werder Bremen - Olympique Lyon (Lyon are too good to lose to a weak Werder Bremen side)
Liverpool - Bayer Leverkusen (My heart says Liverpool, and my head is inclined to agree - Liverpool is gold)
PSV Eindhoven - AS Monaco (Monaco - Saviola to come through).

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Old 02-22-2005, 05:48 AM   #73
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Final bump, you've got 8 hours left to make your list of predictions.
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Old 02-22-2005, 12:52 PM   #74
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Too bad that Sheva is out of the Man U. matchup.
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Old 02-22-2005, 12:58 PM   #75
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Too bad Gol TV doesn't have Champions League.

(Gol TV finally turned up on DirecTV at 6am this morning, I watched a Spanish paid advertisement for a diet pill this morning before coming to work.)
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Old 02-22-2005, 01:14 PM   #76
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actually gol tv in my area is showing the chelsea vs barcelona game(as per the 12 commericals i saw for it last night)
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Old 02-22-2005, 01:25 PM   #77
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Too bad Gol TV doesn't have Champions League.

(Gol TV finally turned up on DirecTV at 6am this morning, I watched a Spanish paid advertisement for a diet pill this morning before coming to work.)

The Man-Milan game is on ESPN2 tomorrow afternoon.
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Old 02-22-2005, 02:17 PM   #78
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I wish I had FSW or something that carries these games. When is the second set of matchups?

How does the Champions League and UEFA Cup work, in qualifying and playing out? Any websites that explain this?

I didn't realize Israel was included in the Europe.
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Old 02-22-2005, 02:18 PM   #79
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The Man-Milan game is on ESPN2 tomorrow afternoon.

What time?

Is it just me, or is soccer from Europe, or in general, starting to grow here?
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Old 02-22-2005, 02:48 PM   #80
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Old 02-22-2005, 03:49 PM   #81
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When is the second set of matchups?
They are playing today and tomorrow, in fact the first games have just finished.

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How does the Champions League and UEFA Cup work, in qualifying and playing out? Any websites that explain this?
You should find all the info you want on www.uefa.com the official website of the european footaball association.

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I didn't realize Israel was included in the Europe.
Well, there was a time when nobody in the Asian Federation would play them, so they were admitted in Europe.
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Old 02-22-2005, 03:57 PM   #82
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btw, the prediction was for the entire tie right - not just the first leg ?
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Old 02-22-2005, 08:47 PM   #83
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With hockey out and the NBA boring as hell (plus not much of a pro hoops fan), I'll watch the game tomarrow. One postive thing of the lockout is that soccer is getting more attention from me, and its pretty cool.

Have they ever considered doing a best-of-three, orwhatever series? What is the logic behind the two game series?

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Old 02-22-2005, 10:10 PM   #84
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Have they ever considered doing a best-of-three, orwhatever series? What is the logic behind the two game series?

They go by aggregate goals; for instance Bayern beat Arsenal in Munich today 3-1. That means if Arsenal win the next match in London 2-1 Bayern go through because the total goals would be Bayern 4-3 Arsenal. If the goals are equal after both matches, they go by away goals, which makes Arsenal's late goal crucial. Now if they(Arsenal) win 2-0 they go through because they would have an away goal and Bayern wouldn't. If the away goals are equal, they go to extra time, followed by penalty kicks.
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Old 02-23-2005, 12:54 AM   #85
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The reason for two matches is that it removes the advantage of a home tie normally associated with knockout competitions. Whether that's good or not is open to debate
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Old 02-23-2005, 01:03 AM   #86
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The reason for two matches is that it removes the advantage of a home tie normally associated with knockout competitions. Whether that's good or not is open to debate

Yeah. I understand the reason, just seems kinda weird way.
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Old 02-23-2005, 06:33 AM   #87
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btw, the prediction was for the entire tie right - not just the first leg ?
Correct.
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Old 02-23-2005, 06:34 AM   #88
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Yeah. I understand the reason, just seems kinda weird way.
And to soccer fans a best of seven series between the Yankees and the team they will beat seems pointless.
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Old 02-23-2005, 07:36 AM   #89
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Too bad Gol TV doesn't have Champions League.

(Gol TV finally turned up on DirecTV at 6am this morning, I watched a Spanish paid advertisement for a diet pill this morning before coming to work.)

Yeah, I just noticed Gol TV today - didn't even know D* was getting it, but no complaints. I was watching FSC on 613 accidentally hit channel up and there's a Barcelona replay match on 614. Sweet.

Now if we could just get free eSPN deportes & soccer other than MLS in HD.
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Old 02-23-2005, 01:33 PM   #90
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Milan-United just beginning.

Soccer broadcasts have cool intros and kinda intitademing feel to them. I like that they focus solely on soccer.
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Old 02-23-2005, 02:40 PM   #91
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0-0 at the half.

Whats with the "UEFA Champions League" thing playing before everytime the game returns, and everytime it goes to a commerical?
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Old 02-23-2005, 03:10 PM   #92
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Just curious,

What is "offsides" exactly in soccer/football, and are the leagues differnet in terms of style?

I notice that AC Milan plays a very controlled, more techinal passing attack and the United play a more fitness, physical-skilled game? Do the big leagues play certain styles?
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Old 02-23-2005, 03:42 PM   #93
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Just curious,

What is "offsides" exactly in soccer/football, and are the leagues differnet in terms of style?

I notice that AC Milan plays a very controlled, more techinal passing attack and the United play a more fitness, physical-skilled game? Do the big leagues play certain styles?

I'm sure someone will come up with the technical definition, but you must have 2 or more opponent players between you and the goal/goaline you are attacking when the ball is played forward by one of your players. Otherwise you are offsides. Basically, you can't camp in front of the goal when the defenders move forward. There's a rule in some leagues about it being ok as long as you dont' affect the play, but that's the gist of it.

As far as the different leagues. You pretty much nailed it on the head. The English league (ManU) is typically characterized by fast paced but rugged, physical w/ hard tackling. The Spanish leagues and Italian leagues (Milan) are considered more technical - better passing, better ball skills, not as physical.

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Old 02-23-2005, 03:48 PM   #94
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Milan certainly schooled Man U in passing and ball skills today. What a blunder by Carroll.

As for the offsides, the easiest way to look at it is to know that any offensive player must be even with, or in front of, at least one defender (besides the goalie) when the ball is played towards him.

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Old 02-23-2005, 05:17 PM   #95
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Manchester United - Hate em, but the've looked pretty damn good lately as long as there are no goalkeeping gaffes .

Freakin Roy Carroll - good thing I caveated my prediction. Ah well, it won't break my heart to see Man U out next round. We'll see what they can do on the road.
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Old 02-23-2005, 08:06 PM   #96
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Glad to see Milan win. They just seem to make the United work for any chances they can get. Fortune missed a huge chance.

When is the second leg? How are these matchups determine, by a draw?
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Old 03-08-2005, 03:40 PM   #97
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Old 03-08-2005, 04:27 PM   #98
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Goddamn Chelsea ruining my perfect day...
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Old 03-08-2005, 04:38 PM   #99
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bump for MIJB...


No need to bump until after Inter-Porto, which is next week. due to some crazy rulings that two games can't be played at the same time on the same field...

Oh, I have the link to this thread in my signature so I don't forget to bump it when there's any need to.
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