Survivor: Palau

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Suicane75

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. I like her belly.

You just like her Dumb and Dumber bangs.

[rkmsuf]

Originally Posted by Suicane75

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. I like her belly.

Somebody, anybody, make her some pants.

[Suicane75]

She's pretty. You're gettin me in a huff.

[TazFTW]

Originally Posted by hhiipp

He'll probably be gone the first or second time that tribe goes to council.. he's just getting pulled along now because his team doesn't lose immunity.

Yeah, but with the way things are going that won't be until the merge. I would think Tom would be the first to go after the merge as he has just dominated in almost all the challenges.

[Bo Jackson's Hip]

Bump

[Joe]

survivor is on tonight instead of thursday this week. hopefully angie gets the boot.

[Kodos]

I'll join the people who like Angie, although I'm not attracted to her. She seems spunky and has done well in challenges. The blond was hot but worthless. Glad they booted her.

[General Mike]

I hope Stephanie wins.

[sachmo71]

Originally Posted by Cap Ologist

I think he moved to Carrollton, TX.

Only cool people live in Carrollton, Texas!

[FrogMan]

Originally Posted by General Mike

I hope Stephanie wins.

I hope so too, she's got a drive I've rarely seen in the series, but I'd think she'll get voted off pretty quick after the merge, whenever the merge happens. She's too much of a physical threat, even to many of the men on these two tribes...

FM

[Bo Jackson's Hip]

Originally Posted by FrogMan

I hope so too, she's got a drive I've rarely seen in the series, but I'd think she'll get voted off pretty quick after the merge, whenever the merge happens. She's too much of a physical threat, even to many of the men on these two tribes...

FM

She'd kick most of the guys asses on there, James, Ian, Ibrahem, Coby. All of them. Agreed on her 'drive'. She is balls to the wall.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by sachmo71

Only cool people live in Carrollton, Texas!

UMM, I'm really confused...

[sachmo71]

Originally Posted by Lathum

UMM, I'm really confused...

Why? Aren't you cool?

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by sachmo71

Why? Aren't you cool?

I guess I must be. I didn't realize there were so many of us here from Carrollton. We should get a live poker game going...

[TazFTW]

That reward ruled. Go Ibraham immunity screwing Ulong's voting!

Angie can now go back to being fully clothed.

[Suicane75]

[EagleFan]

[Suicane75]

No Angie makes Suicane a sad panda.

[EagleFan]

dola: That was great. Giving immunity to the guy who was obviously gone made the losing team really have to rethink things. Glad that they realized that Angie was the one that needed to go.

Glad to see Willard go as well. He was not pulling his weight and was slowing that team down.

That one team could be almost extinct by the time the merge comes around. It's 8-4 right now but could be 9-4 if that was an immunity challenge today (I wonder how they would have worked out the no member can sit out back to back challenges rule if that had been the case). If they merge at 10, it could have been possible to be 9-1 going into the merge. I wonder what the provisions would have been for a 2 person tribal counsil in that case (the final one before the merge).

I think this has to easily go down as the worst tribe in Survivor history at this point.

[Suicane75]

Stephanie is DOA without a merge, if they go back to tribal council she's gone.

[FBPro]

Originally Posted by General Mike

I hope Stephanie wins.

Yep, same here....she's tough and not too bad on the eyes as well.

[kingfc22]

Originally Posted by General Mike

I hope Stephanie wins.

Yea. She has an awesome competitive drive that I just LOVE!!! She's also hot which isn't bad.

[General Mike]

James is so worthless, I'm glad he got voted off. Go home worthless.

[Raiders Army]

Well, I hope that Steph didn't screw herself tonight by voting for Ibreheim first. IMHO, either Tom, Ian, or she needs to win.

[gstelmack]

Originally Posted by Raiders Army

Well, I hope that Steph didn't screw herself tonight by voting for Ibreheim first. IMHO, either Tom, Ian, or she needs to win.

She can spin it by saying "I had to set up the tie first to make James think I was backed into a corner, and that allowed me to change the vote to what I committed to". Now we'll just see if she does spin, or if she just shot herself in the foot with Bobby Jon.

[Swaggs]

She looked hot with her hair down.

[LloydLungs]

Originally Posted by gstelmack

She can spin it by saying "I had to set up the tie first to make James think I was backed into a corner, and that allowed me to change the vote to what I committed to". Now we'll just see if she does spin, or if she just shot herself in the foot with Bobby Jon.

But who cares what James thinks? He's not going to be a juror. Seems to me it was just bizarre and not-very-bright voting strategy. Steph is one of the greatest female competitors ever on Survivor, but she does not appear to be the greatest strategist.

Ulong needs to find some way to send Koror to another tribal council before the merge to make Koror's voting alliances get exposed a little more. If that happens maybe Steph can make some political hay out of that (even though Janu appears to be dying and might be an easy unanimous mercy boot). Otherwise, Koror has no reason not to pick off remaining Ulongs before turning on themselves, and Steph/Bobby Jon/Ibrehem have no chance.

Also, anybody amused at how much Probst is verbally mauling Ulong every episode? Really, Ulong's pathetic but I don't think it's been bad strategy that's done them in -- they just can't get it done in challenges for whatever reason, even though they look okay on paper. They've done things by the book voting-wise. The only non-quitting strong person they voted out was Jolanda. Otherwise they've been dutifully removing the weaker tribe members (although James lasted one week longer than he should have). There've been several worse tribes than Ulong, from a strategy standpoint, in Survivor history. Those tribes simply got saved by twists/shakeups before they had a chance to implode.

[TazFTW]

Well, Steph is dumb. Heck, if it weren't for lying to Bobby Jon, I would just vote her off because she has done exceptionally well in all the challenges.

I would have like that reward challenge. I hate jellyfish stings and then urinating on it to inactivate the chemicals.

Cool that Tom gets a shark next week.

[Suicane75]

Angie wouldnt have been that dumb.

[rkmsuf]

Steph is stupid for changing her vote like that. Why change at that point? That made zero sense to me.

[rkmsuf]

Originally Posted by Suicane75

Angie wouldnt have been that dumb.

Her armpit hair would have steered her on the right path.

[Maple Leafs]

See, I thought Steph's move was perfect.

Think about it: She had an alliance with James. Bobby John has an alliance with Ibrahem, but has told her that he would break that alliance and team with her. He could be lying, but trusting him is probably Steph's best option at this point since James was dead weight.

So the plan was to vote James off this time, then take out Ibrahem next time. So far so good. But that plan only works smoothly if Ibrahem doesn't figure it out first. He has to think he's safe with Bobby John -- if he sees the backstab coming, he becomes a wildcard (not to mention they could merge any time now and they don't want Ibrahem to know they were plotting against him).

If the vote comes in 3-1 to get rid of James, Ibrahem has to figure out that the Steph/James alliance wasn't as strong as it looked and he probably pieces it together. So instead, Steph votes with her alliance the first time, knowing she'll switch after the tie. Now she looks like she made an impulse decision to get rid of James and avoid another tie.

So right now, Ibrahem probably figures that the vote went perfectly. He thinks he's safely allied with Bobby John, and Steph is next to go. If Steph and Bobby John really do team up, Ibrahem won't see it coming because of her misdirection vote.

[rkmsuf]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

See, I thought Steph's move was perfect.

Think about it: She had an alliance with James. Bobby John has an alliance with Ibrahem, but has told her that he would break that alliance and team with her. He could be lying, but trusting him is probably Steph's best option at this point since James was dead weight.

So the plan was to vote James off this time, then take out Ibrahem next time. So far so good. But that plan only works smoothly if Ibrahem doesn't figure it out first. He has to think he's safe with Bobby John -- if he sees the backstab coming, he becomes a wildcard (not to mention they could merge any time now and they don't want Ibrahem to know they were plotting against him).

If the vote comes in 3-1 to get rid of James, Ibrahem has to figure out that the Steph/James alliance wasn't as strong as it looked and he probably pieces it together. So instead, Steph votes with her alliance the first time, knowing she'll switch after the tie. Now she looks like she made an impulse decision to get rid of James and avoid another tie.

So right now, Ibrahem probably figures that the vote went perfectly. He thinks he's safely allied with Bobby John, and Steph is next to go. If Steph and Bobby John really do team up, Ibrahem won't see it coming because of her misdirection vote.

With only the 3 of them left that strategy is pointless.

I think she just made an illogical impulse vote to avoid a tie for no reason....for the second time.

[hhiipp]

I think she may have told Bobby Jon she was going to do that because she felt some sort of bond to James and she said she didn't want to be a liar.. so in effect she made herself feel better by at first voting Ib and then changing to James.

Did seem like an odd move, but I'm not too suprised by it.

[Maple Leafs]

Originally Posted by rkmsuf

With only the 3 of them left that strategy is pointless.

No it's not, for two reasons:

- If they merge, they want Ibrahem to think he's part of the team. If he knows they were ready to backstab him he'll sell his vote out to which ever sub-alliance from the other tribe makes him the best offer.

- Even if they don't merge (and assuming they lose another immunity), it's far easier to double-cross someone who doesn't know it's coming. If he figures it out, he has a chance to go to each one of them and try to talk them out of it, which will make for some very nervous times for Steph and Bobby John as they're left to hope he doesn't succeed.

[rkmsuf]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

No it's not, for two reasons:

- If they merge, they want Ibrahem to think he's part of the team. If he knows they were ready to backstab him he'll sell his vote out to which ever sub-alliance from the other tribe makes him the best offer.

- Even if they don't merge (and assuming they lose another immunity), it's far easier to double-cross someone who doesn't know it's coming. If he figures it out, he has a chance to go to each one of them and try to talk them out of it, which will make for some very nervous times for Steph and Bobby John as they're left to hope he doesn't succeed.

But she already voted for Ib. He has to know that.

Why vote for Ib at all if this is your strategy.

[Maple Leafs]

Originally Posted by rkmsuf

But she already voted for Ib. He has to know that.

Why vote for Ib at all if this is your strategy.

Because it's all about giving Ib a false sense of security. You want him to think Steph voted against him, because the re-enforces the idea that she's on the outside of his alliance with Bobby John. Now he figures that she targetted him, but it doesn't matter because he knows that he and Bobby John will be voting her out next. If she'd voted for James the first time, he'd be wondering what happened to the James/Steph alliance and might figure out what's coming.

[rkmsuf]

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Because it's all about giving Ib a false sense of security. You want him to think Steph voted against him, because the re-enforces the idea that she's on the outside of his alliance with Bobby John. Now he figures that she targetted him, but it doesn't matter because he knows that he and Bobby John will be voting her out next. If she'd voted for James the first time, he'd be wondering what happened to the James/Steph alliance and might figure out what's coming.

you really think the whole thing was that deep?

[paperstreetsoap]

IMO, the Top 5 Survivors Left:
1. Tom
2. Stephenie
3. Greg
4. Ian
5. Bobby Jon

Ian and Greg over Bobby Jon just because Koror is doing so well. Personally, I am rooting for Bobby Jon.

[SteelerFan448]

This far into the show, I still can't believe the domination displayed by Koror. What a great job they did when picking their team...what luck.

[FBPro]

I just think it would be so great to see Steph win it all after the dominate performance by Koror.

[hhiipp]

I think it will be very easy for the Ulong people to jump into a primarily Koror alliance at the merger. They've been together so long that you know some people are starting to grate on others nerves, once Koror faces some adversity it's all going to come crumbling down and I wouldn't be suprised if a Ulong person does win it all.

[FBPro]

Steph survived this week, kinda surprised but glad. Go Steph!!!

[Dutch]

I'm pulling for Stephanie and even Bobby John. Maybe the Kuror will crack when they merge.

[General Mike]

Originally Posted by hhiipp

I think it will be very easy for the Ulong people to jump into a primarily Koror alliance at the merger. They've been together so long that you know some people are starting to grate on others nerves, once Koror faces some adversity it's all going to come crumbling down and I wouldn't be suprised if a Ulong person does win it all.

I agree. Kinda like last season with the one guy cracking the all girl alliance.

[FBPro]

Well, only Steph remains for ulong.........

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by FBPro

Well, only Steph remains for ulong.........

I can't take her whiny voice much longer. She was one of the ones that I was pulling for but her voice has started to really grate on me.

[Swaggs]

She's hot.

[EagleFan]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

She's hot.

That's why she was initially on my want to win list. Just get her to stop talking.

[FBPro]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

She's hot.

O yeah, and can kick butt as well.