2005-06 College Hockey Thread

[Cards4ever]

Gophers up 4-3 after 2, all goals on the PP. No goals by Kessel.

[RPI-Fan]

RPI snagged a road win over a ranked BU team last night... hopefully we can keep things going to make this season a little more interesting.

[Wolfpack]

Heh. Didn't think the RPI in your name meant Rennselaer. I find it a little humorous because I've been doing research on college football rivalries as part of my attempt to recreate college football history over in the dynasty section. Rensselaer came up three times because of their trophy games against Union (the shoes), the Coast Guard (the shotglass), and WPI (the transit). Though Rennselaer isn't rated for pretty much all of the seasons I have, I was able to track down a site that had the histories of these series and am hoping to incorporate these series (and a lot of others, I've come to discover) into the replay because I can play single games based on the scores of those games historically.

Edit to add: Oop, for some reason I thought this was football-related...didn't read the thread title closely enough. Pardon the threadjack.

[Cards4ever]

Gophers hold on to win 4-3. They killed a 5 minute major with 7 minutes left to win.

[bronconick]

Niagara 3, WMU 2

0-2-0.

Automatically 0-4 with two games vs. Ohio State next week, so the search for the 1st win will be the 4th and 5th vs. LSSU.

[Sublime 2]

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

RPI snagged a road win over a ranked BU team last night... hopefully we can keep things going to make this season a little more interesting.

Yeah....I was quite unimpressed...BU DOMINATED and then RPI showed an unreal no-quit attitude and won. Congrats to them! But BU should have smoked them.

[RPI-Fan]

Originally Posted by Sublime 2

Yeah....I was quite unimpressed...BU DOMINATED and then RPI showed an unreal no-quit attitude and won. Congrats to them! But BU should have smoked them.

BU definitely was faster than us. But our rookie goaltender has looked very solid at times early on, and our #1 line is just as good as your's in the offensive zone, I think.

[Taco]

Go RPI!!!

[Sublime 2]

Originally Posted by RPI-Fan

BU definitely was faster than us. But our rookie goaltender has looked very solid at times early on, and our #1 line is just as good as your's in the offensive zone, I think.

Yeah your goalie was definetly on top of his game. The SOG was largely in our favor but it didn't matter at all, he made some very quality saves.

[RPI-Fan]

RPI with a nice home win tonight 7-5 over NU after trailing 4-0 in the first period. No penalties for either team in the 3rd -- good hockey game that was fun to watch and I'm glad the home team could get a positive result!

[st.cronin]

Wisconsin goaltender Brian Elliott has allowed just seven goals in his last six WCHA games.

[bronconick]

Originally Posted by bronconick

Niagara 3, WMU 2

0-2-0.

Automatically 0-4 with two games vs. Ohio State next week, so the search for the 1st win will be the 4th and 5th vs. LSSU.

I stand corrected

WMU 5, #4 Ohio State 1

[Cards4ever]

Gophers are headed for a split, Kessel has a shortie tonight.

[st.cronin]

Wisconsin goalie Brian Elliott has now given up eight goals in his last seven WCHA games. He has played every game this year and is 4-1-1, with a 1.40 gaa and a .940 save percentage.

[Cards4ever]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Wisconsin goalie Brian Elliott has now given up eight goals in his last seven WCHA games. He has played every game this year and is 4-1-1, with a 1.40 gaa and a .940 save percentage.

Woohoo, hang the banner already bucky, you just swept Alaska Anchorage(at home), tied and beat SCSU.

[bronconick]

Originally Posted by bronconick

I stand corrected

WMU 5, #4 Ohio State 1

I am teh suck at predictions.

Western 5, OSU 4

[BishopMVP]

UMass came out Friday night and outplayed an overrated UNH team, but couldn't finish and lost 4-1 after a couple late goals. Then Saturday we played Maine and were completely disgraceful. Worst display of hockey I've ever seen for two periods, and in the third Maine was probably just sitting back since they were up 3-0 already. At least the goalies look pretty good, but it's gonna be a long season with all the youngsters and the fact that no one can score on this team.

One other note, I know most of you will disagree, but Thomas Pock was the best player in college hockey two years ago. In the two years since he's left it's become more and more apparent just how special he was.

[Sublime 2]

BU won last night against #6 Vermont, 4-2. Vermont really didn't look that good. They were huge...but didn't seem to be all that skilled. It could have just been a bad game because they have played 4 games in the past week but they certainly didn't look like a team that can hang with the big boys in Hockey East.

[st.cronin]

Badgers sweep North Dakota in Grand Forks, 4-2 and 4-1.

How'd the Gophers do again?

[sovereignstar]

Gophers on top of Alaska-Anchorage 7-0 after two. Kessel has five points (1 PP goal, 4 assists).

Final is 9-0. Wheeler added two goals and Stoa snapped in a wrister as well. Kellen Briggs with his UM record 9th shutout.

[DeToxRox]

Next weekend, Michigan has Minnesota and Wisconsin coming to town. Talk about some awesome hockey.

Johnson vs Kessel will be awesome.

[sovereignstar]

Originally Posted by DeToxRoxDVHStyle

Next weekend, Michigan has Minnesota and Wisconsin coming to town. Talk about some awesome hockey.

Johnson vs Kessel will be awesome.

Actually it's two weeks away.

[Cards4ever]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Badgers sweep North Dakota in Grand Forks, 4-2 and 4-1.

How'd the Gophers do again?

You go ahead and hang that November banner bucky. Briggs shut out AA tonight, I guess he's now the best goalie in the WCHA.

[st.cronin]

I heart Brian Elliott

[Cards4ever]

Gophers sweep the Championship Contender Alaska-Anchorage Seawolves.

[RPI-Fan]

Originally Posted by Sublime 2

BU won last night against #6 Vermont, 4-2. Vermont really didn't look that good. They were huge...but didn't seem to be all that skilled. It could have just been a bad game because they have played 4 games in the past week but they certainly didn't look like a team that can hang with the big boys in Hockey East.

When I saw Vermont last year, I wasn't really impressed.

Like you said, they have good speed and a couple of bigger guys, but just not that much skill. I have my doubts as to whether they'd even finish in the top half of the ECAC (who's having a down year as it is).

[Cards4ever]

Hmm, where's that post that reports the Worlds Greatest Goaltender held those WCHA superstars from Mankato to 1 goal, can you believe it folks? Brian Elliot held Mankato to 1 goal at home!!!!!

On the Maroon and Gold front, Gophers pull 3 points out of Denver this weekend and if Karim is reading this, Chucko broke a 17 game goalless streak with 2 in the third to complete the comeback tonight.

[st.cronin]

Goals Against Average:                                   Minutes    GA     GAA
  1 Matt Lundin                Maine             SO       239:00     3    0.75
  2 Brian Elliott (OTT)        Wisconsin         JR       670:32    15    1.34
  3 Jeff Zatkoff               Miami             FR       356:58     8    1.34
  4 Charlie Effinger           Miami             SO       244:51     6    1.47
  5 Matt Zaba (LAK)            Colorado College  JR       709:08    20    1.69
  6 Mark Dekanich              Colgate           SO       583:00    17    1.75
  7 Layne Sedevie              Bemidji State     JR       299:44     9    1.80
  8 Joe Fallon                 Vermont           SO       597:36    18    1.81
  9 Tony Quesada               Holy Cross        SR       363:32    11    1.82
 10 Dave Caruso                Ohio State        SR       578:58    18    1.87
 11 Ben Bishop (STL)           Maine             FR       480:01    15    1.87
 12 Bill Zaniboni              Northern Michigan SO       510:22    18    2.12
 13 Tyler Sims                 Providence        SO       604:01    22    2.19
 14 Kyle McNulty               Clarkson          JR       356:20    13    2.19
 15 Jason Smith (NJD)          Sacred Heart      JR       529:10    20    2.27
 16 Jeff Jakaitis              Lake Superior     JR       710:27    27    2.28
 17 Jordan Parise              North Dakota      JR       603:13    23    2.29
 18 Kellen Briggs              Minnesota         JR       463:09    18    2.33
 19 Jeff Pietrasiak (PHO)      New Hampshire     SR       359:22    14    2.34
 20 Billy Sauer                Michigan          FR       486:05    19    2.35
 21 Bobby Goepfert (PIT)       St. Cloud State   JR       610:37    24    2.36
 22 Mathias Lange              Rensselaer        FR       633:05    25    2.37
 23 Jon Quick (LAK)            Massachusetts     FR       298:55    12    2.41

[st.cronin]

Brian Elliott has gone 14 straight starts without giving up more than 2 goals.

[st.cronin]

Save Percentage:                                           Saves    GA   Save%
  1 Matt Lundin                Maine             SO           82     3    .965
  2 Brian Elliott (OTT)        Wisconsin         JR          268    15    .947
  3 Jeff Zatkoff               Miami             FR          134     8    .944
  4 Charlie Effinger           Miami             SO          100     6    .943
  5 Mark Dekanich              Colgate           SO          265    17    .940
  6 Tony Quesada               Holy Cross        SR          163    11    .937
  7 Jon Quick (LAK)            Massachusetts     FR          175    12    .936
  8 Layne Sedevie              Bemidji State     JR          131     9    .936
  9 Matt Zaba (LAK)            Colorado College  JR          291    20    .936
 10 Jordan Parise              North Dakota      JR          312    23    .931
 11 Jeff Pietrasiak (PHO)      New Hampshire     SR          181    14    .928
 12 Chad Johnson               Alaska Fairbanks  FR          139    11    .927
 13 Tyler Sims                 Providence        SO          272    22    .925
 14 Ben Bishop (STL)           Maine             FR          180    15    .923
 15 Bobby Goepfert (PIT)       St. Cloud State   JR          280    24    .921

[Blade6119]

I dont follow college hockey too much but how is miami doing...just by looking at their two goalies they shouldnt be doing too poorly...

[st.cronin]

Miami (OH) is 6-1-1, got a win and a tie against Notre Dame this weekend.

[st.cronin]

Just for you, Cards4ever, the WCHA standings:

                        Conference Only                    Overall
                    Pts  GP  Record  Win%  GF- GA   GP  Record  Win%  GF- GA
 1 Wisconsin         16   9  7- 0- 2 .889  31- 11   11  8- 1- 2 .818  35- 15
 2 Minnesota         14  10  6- 2- 2 .700  39- 24   12  6- 3- 3 .625  45- 31
 3 Colorado College  13   8  6- 1- 1 .812  29- 12   14 11- 2- 1 .821  50- 23
 4 Denver             8   8  3- 3- 2 .500  26- 24   12  5- 5- 2 .500  39- 38
   Minnesota Duluth   8   8  3- 3- 2 .500  25- 27   12  3- 7- 2 .333  30- 45
   North Dakota       8   8  4- 4- 0 .500  25- 28   14  8- 5- 1 .607  42- 37
 7 St. Cloud State    7  10  3- 6- 1 .350  25- 25   12  4- 7- 1 .375  28- 30
 8 Minnesota State    6   9  2- 5- 2 .333  23- 29   11  2- 7- 2 .273  29- 40
 9 Alaska Anchorage   3   8  1- 6- 1 .188  13- 35   12  3- 8- 1 .292  22- 43
   Michigan Tech      3   8  1- 6- 1 .188  13- 34   14  2-11- 1 .179  27- 57

[Cards4ever]

So, when do you get that banner for being the National Champs of November Bucky? Just who has Elliott beat in those 14 games? Has Wisconsin ever sent all 5 of their players across the red line?

[st.cronin]

I actually made a typo; it's FIFTEEN straight starts with 2 goals or less. He is also now 3-0-1 with a 1.25 gaa against teams in last year's Frozen Four.

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I actually made a typo; it's FIFTEEN straight starts with 2 goals or less. He is also now 3-0-1 with a 1.25 gaa against teams in last year's Frozen Four.

Yeah, but somehow he sucks. I don't get it.

I don't care if they aren't crossing the blue line at all and are plyaing pre schoolers, the guy is doing something right.

[Cards4ever]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I actually made a typo; it's FIFTEEN straight starts with 2 goals or less. He is also now 3-0-1 with a 1.25 gaa against teams in last year's Frozen Four.

So, CC and UND brought back the players that Graduated or left and they played against Wisco this year? Amazing!!!!


Troy, as for what you said, are you telling me a guy that hits .350 for the Rockies is exactly the same as a guy hitting .350 at Petco?

[DeToxRox]

Listen, I am a former goalie, and no matter your team, when you're going 15 games without giving more then 2 goals thats fucking impressive.

We'll see this weekend though as the Nations top team Michigan takes on both Minnesota and Wisconsin.

[Cards4ever]

So, the people that I know that happen to scout know nothing? He's a decent goalie that puts up good numbers because of the system. St Cronin comes on here and proclaims he's some kind of superstar. He's on a run, but like I keep saying, they don't hand out banners in November. Lets see how these teams look in March.

[DeToxRox]

Originally Posted by Cards4ever

So, the people that I know that happen to scout know nothing? He's a decent goalie that puts up good numbers because of the system. St Cronin comes on here and proclaims he's some kind of superstar. He's on a run, but like I keep saying, they don't hand out banners in November. Lets see how these teams look in March.

JS Gigure is the same way. At some point though you have to give credit to the kid and not the system because you can't just plug someone into the system.

[Cards4ever]

As I said, he's a decent goalie. The team is on a run, just as Minnesota was last year, UND the year before, Michigan the year before that, did ANY of those teams win the title? The Gophers just took 3 points in Denver, do you see me pounding my chest proclaiming how great the Gophers are because they just took 3 from the Defending National Champs? Hell no, look at all the points and experience Denver lost, they are no where near the team they were last April and they are probably not the same team they will be next April. In other words, it's a long season, settle down Bucky, see how it shakes out. If Wisco is in the Frozen 4, talk all you want about how great they are.

[st.cronin]

People say the the same shit about Marty Brodeur that Cards4Ever says about Elliott and he's won all sorts of titles. I think Elliott is better than Bruckler ever was, and he was widely considered the best goalie in the WCHA. At the beginning of this thread, I said the Gophers should be favored to win it all - but the Badgers will be good, too. I think it's funny how he insisted Gopher fans don't care about the Badgers, and then for the next few weeks all he does is mock the Badgers. I have never trashed the Gophers, here, or anywhere; they are a solid team that I enjoy rooting against.

[Cards4ever]

I always mock fans that hang November Banners, SCSU fans that I've worked with in the past can attest to that!


Comparing Elliott to Brodeur is a good one, can't wait to pass that on to some people I know, they'll love it!

[st.cronin]

After yesterday Elliot now has 16 consecutive games allowing 2 goals or less.

Also, anybody inferring that I compared Brian Elliott to Marty Brodeur has reading skills such that they probably could not attend ANY college, much less Minnesota.

I was comparing what you say about Elliott to what NY Ranger fans bitterly complain about Brodeur every time he shuts them out ... "It's the system, wah, they don't play fair, we need a trapezoid behind the net..."

[Cards4ever]

Ah yes, the insult my intelligence to deflect from the hockey issue, good job!

Just to put this to rest, if you honestly believe that Elliott would be this good in a wide open system, fine. We will just have to agree to disagree. I just hope that if Elliott takes some beatings, you come on and report on those like you do when he beats all of these cupcakes.


BTW, I still want to know how many trips to Grand Forks you made to see Parise play when he was at UND.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Cards4ever

Ah yes, the insult my intelligence to deflect from the hockey issue, good job!

Just to put this to rest, if you honestly believe that Elliott would be this good in a wide open system, fine. We will just have to agree to disagree. I just hope that if Elliott takes some beatings, you come on and report on those like you do when he beats all of these cupcakes.


BTW, I still want to know how many trips to Grand Forks you made to see Parise play when he was at UND.

Only two.

[Cards4ever]

"I saw a lot of him at NoDak. He's a very unique player, and I think you're lucky to have him. I expect him to be quite good, maybe something like Holik in his good years."

I saw a lot of him is 2 trips to GF and the 2 trips to Madison?

[TroyF]

Originally Posted by Cards4ever

So, CC and UND brought back the players that Graduated or left and they played against Wisco this year? Amazing!!!!


Troy, as for what you said, are you telling me a guy that hits .350 for the Rockies is exactly the same as a guy hitting .350 at Petco?

Not the same, but I wouldn't assume the Rockies hitter sucks either. (take a look at how many Rockies hitters have actually hit .350 and you'll be surprised at the list)

A few things:

1) It's not just the goals against. Look at the save percentage. The stats I found said he had the #1 save percentage in college hockey. So it isn't that he's facing fewer shots. Maybe fewer wide open breakaways, but not fewer shots. His record is impressive no matter how I try to slice it up.

2) I don't really care where we are in the year. He's been impressive and he's on a hell of a run. I'm not proclaiming him to be the best goalie of all time, nor have I seen anyone here do so.

3) What scouts think he'd do in an open system is irrelevant. It also doesn't matter if he's projected to be a pro goalie or not. He's playing college hockey, not professional hockey. And he's in a slow it down system, something that isn't going to change. (unless st. cronin can tell me that Wisconsin is planning on running and gunning soon, which I don't think likely) Tommie Frazier couldn't operate a west coast offense and he was never going to the NFL. He won a couple of national titles.

4) You keep saying "Wait until the season ends. . ." Who cares? We all have brains enough here to understand that the performence now means nothing until the playoffs start. But we can appreciate solid performences until then. I guess you're saying if a Gopher were lighting things up through 20 games, you wouldn't speak highly of him because, well, ya know, he hasn't proven anything yet. BS.

[Cards4ever]

Originally Posted by TroyF

Not the same, but I wouldn't assume the Rockies hitter sucks either. (take a look at how many Rockies hitters have actually hit .350 and you'll be surprised at the list)

A few things:

1) It's not just the goals against. Look at the save percentage. The stats I found said he had the #1 save percentage in college hockey. So it isn't that he's facing fewer shots. Maybe fewer wide open breakaways, but not fewer shots. His record is impressive no matter how I try to slice it up.

2) I don't really care where we are in the year. He's been impressive and he's on a hell of a run. I'm not proclaiming him to be the best goalie of all time, nor have I seen anyone here do so.

3) What scouts think he'd do in an open system is irrelevant. It also doesn't matter if he's projected to be a pro goalie or not. He's playing college hockey, not professional hockey. And he's in a slow it down system, something that isn't going to change. (unless st. cronin can tell me that Wisconsin is planning on running and gunning soon, which I don't think likely) Tommie Frazier couldn't operate a west coast offense and he was never going to the NFL. He won a couple of national titles.

4) You keep saying "Wait until the season ends. . ." Who cares? We all have brains enough here to understand that the performence now means nothing until the playoffs start. But we can appreciate solid performences until then. I guess you're saying if a Gopher were lighting things up through 20 games, you wouldn't speak highly of him because, well, ya know, he hasn't proven anything yet. BS.

1-They are on a roll, see #4

2-See post #29 in this thread

3-If he had something behind him that said that, I would agree, this is first year as a starter however.

4-Guess you don't know me that well, look through the thread, the Gophers were the #1 team preseason, did I pound my chest about that? Again, it's a long season, I've seen it happen several times in a row now, it's about who's hot in the last part of the year and it's about getting a good seed in the NCAA's, that's all it's about. Until then I just like to watch hockey and cheer for the Gophers, but don't mistake me just for a homer, I've seen quite a few of these kids play before they have went off to the different WCHA schools, including a captain at Wisco that I know very well from the Bloomington system. My dislike is for UND, Wisco is just a minor irritant.

[st.cronin]

Actually, it's not just this year. Elliott, as the backup, had as many shutouts as Bruckler last year (3 apiece), and vastly better stats (granted he generally didn't start against Minnesota or CC or Denver).