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Old 07-26-2006, 10:50 AM   #51
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Actually NO, it doesn't. Knowing that one loss basically eliminates any Mountain East team from the NC because the conference is so weak negates the one-year flash-in-the-pan status WVU is carrying right now. And no matter how you try to slice and dice it, every day WVU wakes up in the BE and goes to bed dreaming that they had been picked for the ACC. The "murk" of the ACC is a few steps and a whole other staircase above the BE, so on the contrary, it is a very nice place to be.
WVU could go undefeated and not make the BCS championship game ( I know because that was what we nearly faced in '99...back when the Big East actually had a solid roster of teams). I'd much rather face a tougher schedule, but actually have our MNC fate in our hands than know that an undefeated season may not mean squat when it comes to the BCS title game.

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Old 07-26-2006, 10:51 AM   #52
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The offense should be one of the best in the nation, led by veteran QB John Beck.
Prodnosticators pencil us finishing 2nd in the Mountain West Conference...I'd say we win the conference title with a top 25 ranking :-)
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Old 07-26-2006, 11:53 AM   #53
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Wisconsin - my father's and fiance's alma mater, my Grandfather's first teaching post.

Stocco will lead us to greatness this year, the first under Bielema. I predict a Rose Bowl appearance.
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Old 07-26-2006, 01:48 PM   #54
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Syracuse...hoping for 3-5 wins, anything better would be a miracle even in the weak Big East.
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Old 07-26-2006, 01:59 PM   #55
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Buffs are gonna do pretty much what they've been doing of late.

Win 7-9 games and get into a mediocre Bowl.
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Old 07-26-2006, 02:46 PM   #56
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Notre Dame.

I was a fan as a young lad growing up, as my old man was. Went to the HS Gerry Faust came from. I didn't have the grades, money or athletic ability out of high school to go there, but that didn't make me change allegiances. I still support the DIII program I played for.

Johny93g hit the nail on the head. Offense-great. Defense-did I mention the offense was going to be great? I have no clue really, how they will end up. Sure, they could win the whole thing. They could lose 3 or 4. The schedule is tough.

Responding to the thread-I'll go on the record and say Drew Stanton is one hell of a QB and scares me more than any individual player on ND's schedule. And yes, that includes Calvin Johnson or anybody Michigan or USC will trot out this season. Remember, I said individual player-not team.
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Old 07-26-2006, 03:15 PM   #57
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Notre Dame, we'll lose one game.

Illinois, we've got the Zooker, that means we'll be 0-fer.

Memphis, we'll be 8-4 and go to a fair to middling bowl.
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Old 07-26-2006, 03:50 PM   #58
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Notre Dame, we'll lose one game.

Illinois, we've got the Zooker, that means we'll be 0-fer.

Memphis, we'll be 8-4 and go to a fair to middling bowl.

I am not one of those people who get all bent out of shape when a fan refers to their favorite team as "we", but can you do that for three different teams all competing in the same sport and league?
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Old 07-26-2006, 04:13 PM   #59
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Should have a strong QB with Brent Shaeffer, assuming he can complete his last JUCO course, doh. We have a good RB transfer from Indiana (Ben-Jarvis Green-Ellis)that will play this year. We have a first team all american at Linebacker. But then it kind of gets weak fast. If all of the other factors in the universe come together, we could hit a 7 win season and make a bowl. With Ed Ogeron's strong recruiting, we may be ready to compete with the big guys in the SEC next season.
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Old 07-26-2006, 04:21 PM   #60
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Should have a strong QB with Brent Shaeffer, assuming he can complete his last JUCO course, doh. We have a good RB transfer from Indiana (Ben-Jarvis Green-Ellis)that will play this year. We have a first team all american at Linebacker. But then it kind of gets weak fast. If all of the other factors in the universe come together, we could hit a 7 win season and make a bowl. With Ed Ogeron's strong recruiting, we may be ready to compete with the big guys in the SEC next season.

They should really change their nickname to the Faulkners.
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Old 07-26-2006, 04:30 PM   #61
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I am not one of those people who get all bent out of shape when a fan refers to their favorite team as "we", but can you do that for three different teams all competing in the same sport and league?

Theoretically he could have a degree from all three institutions, so it would make sense.

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Old 07-26-2006, 04:35 PM   #62
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Old 07-26-2006, 04:44 PM   #63
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I am not one of those people who get all bent out of shape when a fan refers to their favorite team as "we", but can you do that for three different teams all competing in the same sport and league?

Notre Dame is my first love. Illinois is the school I went to until I transferred to UofM due to my father's battle with cancer. Memphis is the school I graduated from, and the hometown school. I listed all three, but the order I pull for them. I follow all three fairly closely.
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Old 07-26-2006, 05:07 PM   #64
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If Rutgers (alma mater) can figure out how to beat WVU or Louisville, we could make a run at #2 or so in the Big East. Realistically, we always seem to lose a fringe game here and there (see USF last season) so we'll probably finish with 3-4 conference losses. Our out-of-conference games are rather uninspiring except a rematch of that hideous Illinois game.

We return the best rushing combo of the Big East (including one of NCAA's top FB) and an unproven Mike Teel without a Tres Moses to throw to. It's going to resemble a Buddy Ryan/Dan Reeves offense...run run pass, run run pass, run run run...
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Old 07-26-2006, 05:16 PM   #65
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Grew up in Seattle, my grandfather had season tickets to the Huskies (he was an alum) and took my dad and my bro, and then me when I was around 8. I'm also an alum, and my family has had the season tickets since the early '60's (even though both my parents went to WSU).

I think the Pac-10 is wide open in the bottom 6 spots or so. USC, Cal, ASU & perhaps Oregon should be near the top, though all those teams have flaws. The rest of the Pac has even greater potential flaws, and if everything breaks right, the Huskies could finish with a winning record and a minor bowl bid, which would be a major accomplishment given the past 2 years. On the other hand, a few injuries here and there and some bad breaks and this team could have another 1-win season.

Oh, and as if I needed another reason to not like Bubba, he's a Notre Dame fan...
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Old 07-26-2006, 05:19 PM   #66
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Oh, and as if I needed another reason to not like Bubba, he's a Notre Dame fan...

How is ol' Tyrone doing for ya up there in the land of rain and overpriced coffee? I still fondly remember the Sports Babe's moniker for Seattle...

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Old 07-26-2006, 05:23 PM   #67
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How is ol' Tyrone doing for ya up there in the land of rain and overpriced coffee?
Too early to draw a definitive conclusion. He landed in a shitty situation, so the 2-9 last season wasn't entirely his fault. One plus is that he replaced his OC at Stanford and Notre Dame (Bill Diedrich) with Tim Lappanno, a much better OC (he was a long-time assistant under Dennis Erickson).

That said, I wasn't a big fan of hiring him, and I'm skeptical he can return us to the level we enjoyed under Don James. He will keep the bad news stories to a minimum though, unlike Ricky Neuheisel.
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Old 07-26-2006, 10:56 PM   #68
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They should really change their nickname to the Faulkners.
The Sound and The Fury may work better. But hey, the Rebels works out fine.
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Old 07-26-2006, 11:19 PM   #69
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That is just...wrong.
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Old 07-26-2006, 11:22 PM   #70
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Actually NO, it doesn't. Knowing that one loss basically eliminates any Mountain East team from the NC because the conference is so weak negates the one-year flash-in-the-pan status WVU is carrying right now. And no matter how you try to slice and dice it, every day WVU wakes up in the BE and goes to bed dreaming that they had been picked for the ACC. The "murk" of the ACC is a few steps and a whole other staircase above the BE, so on the contrary, it is a very nice place to be.

Really? I didn't know the Mountain East was a BCS league, which virtually makes them inelligible for the National Championship to begin with.

I'll betcha anything Beamer was wishing he was still in the Big East last year, when Tech beat WVU, but wound up in the Gator Bowl because they were in the ACC. They would have probably went to the Sugar Bowl, and a bigger payout, if they had stayed in the Big East. Again, traitors deserve what they get, and Va Tech, Miami and especially Boston College are nothing but.
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Old 07-26-2006, 11:24 PM   #71
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UCLA and the team playing USC.

I believe UCLA will take a step back this year, because they are still too young on defense, and the offense is going to need to recover from losing sop many playmakers. We'll still be in the mix for a bowl and 8 wins or so, though, I think (my guess is 3rd to 6th, with 4th likely finish).

I think this year will be an improvement for the team playing USC. Last few years, this team has been one of the worst in the nation, winning only a couple times. But I see USC taking a step back (to having to fight to win the conference), so this team figures to improve.
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Old 07-26-2006, 11:35 PM   #72
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Old 07-27-2006, 08:52 AM   #73
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Really? I didn't know the Mountain East was a BCS league, which virtually makes them inelligible for the National Championship to begin with.

I'll betcha anything Beamer was wishing he was still in the Big East last year, when Tech beat WVU, but wound up in the Gator Bowl because they were in the ACC. They would have probably went to the Sugar Bowl, and a bigger payout, if they had stayed in the Big East. Again, traitors deserve what they get, and Va Tech, Miami and especially Boston College are nothing but.

Um, slick, your team *is in* the Mountain East. And they probably shouldn't be eligible for the BCS, which they won't be in a few years anyway.

The big payouts come from sharing revenue in a real conference where 8 teams go to bowl games. Not blowing $3 million on a stupid lawsuit...only to get back $1M. Nice mountaineer-math.

And VT could have romped through the MAC or Sun Belt or the Colonial just as easily as the Big East, so where is the thrill in that?

I'm pretty sure Frank Beamer is happy being in the ACC, as are I and 100% of VT fans and supporters. We'll enjoy the ACC, as I'm sure Miami and BC do. You can enjoy the JV league all you want.

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Old 07-27-2006, 09:07 AM   #74
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Old 07-27-2006, 09:20 AM   #75
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Um, slick, your team *is in* the Mountain East. And they probably shouldn't be eligible for the BCS, which they won't be in a few years anyway.

The big payouts come from sharing revenue in a real conference where 8 teams go to bowl games. Not blowing $3 million on a stupid lawsuit...only to get back $1M. Nice mountaineer-math.

And VT could have romped through the MAC or Sun Belt or the Colonial just as easily as the Big East, so where is the thrill in that?

I'm pretty sure Frank Beamer is happy being in the ACC, as are I and 100% of VT fans and supporters. We'll enjoy the ACC, as I'm sure Miami and BC do. You can enjoy the JV league all you want.

What a goof. If Va tech was still in the Big East, they would have beat up on 3 1-AA teams out of conference, ran up the score on the conference cellar dwellers, and then shit the bed when they played decent teams. The only years Va Tech wasn't a joke was when Mike Vick was at QB, and they got lucky Miami was on probation.
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Old 07-27-2006, 09:22 AM   #76
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I'll betcha anything Beamer was wishing he was still in the Big East last year, when Tech beat WVU, but wound up in the Gator Bowl because they were in the ACC. They would have probably went to the Sugar Bowl, and a bigger payout, if they had stayed in the Big East.
Actually, in the ACC we get the same bowl payout no matter if we go to a BCS bowl or go 0-12. The conference totals up all the money and splits it equally. You guys have a similar system in the Big East, so I hope you're not thinking that WVU got to keep it's Sugar Bowl check.

Of course, the ACC nowadays isn't like the Big East...you guys have to rely on bowl checks to provide a large percentage of your revenue since the Big East TV package is worthless. Our deal is worth $260 million...so we make more off of our cut from TV than we could ever make from the bowls.

I'm pretty sure Beamer (nor anyone else in Blacksburg) is missing the Big East.
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Old 07-27-2006, 09:25 AM   #77
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The only years Va Tech wasn't a joke was when Mike Vick was at QB, and they got lucky Miami was on probation.
Really? I could have sworn that we had more conference championships without Mike than we did with him. Yeah, I'm pretty sure of that. But then you wouldn't know that...as a Rutgers fan, you've haven't got the foggiest idea what the Big East Championship is, much less any idea of who's been winning them.

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Old 07-27-2006, 09:45 AM   #78
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I'm also a WVU fan. We're a preseason top 5 in every magazine, and coming off one of the biggest wins in school history over Georgia in the Sugar Bowl. Recruiting is off to a great start and we're getting good press all over the place, including a couple of ESPN writers picking us to win the national championship. It's a good time to be a Mountaineer.

So I don't care about Virginia Tech. I'm sure they'll stomp someone in the Gator Bowl. Literally.
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Old 07-27-2006, 09:51 AM   #79
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So I don't care about Virginia Tech. I'm sure they'll stomp someone in the Gator Bowl. Literally.
That is actually really damn funny.
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Old 07-27-2006, 12:59 PM   #80
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Virginia Tech was awarded 2 outright Big East titles 1995 and 1999, and shared the 1996 title with Miami and Syracuse. Miami actually had the same conference record as Virginia Tech in 1995. Virginia Tech was awarded the outright conference title because Miami was on probation.

The one "untied" title that Virginia Tech won in the Big East was with Vick in 1999. The two "tied" titles were without (1995 and 1996).

West Virginia won an untied Big East title in 1993 while both teams were in the same conference (as well as a "tied" title in 2003). Syracuse won untied titles in 1997 and 1998 (and was 1.5 games ahead in 1991 and a half game ahead in 1992, Miami was awarded the titles based on National Rankings) and a "tied" title in 1996.

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Old 07-27-2006, 06:55 PM   #81
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Stanford fan here. They probably won't be all that great, but they do havea senior QB in Trent Edwards, so that's a plus.

The team will be playing in a brand new stadium, which is smaller and sans track, so everyone will be closer to the action. Good times!
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Old 08-02-2006, 10:11 AM   #82
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UTEP, of course. We've got a killer offense as long as Jordan Palmer cuts down on his INTs, which he should since he's healthy now. Junior RB Marcus Thomas is a true stud and will have to make defenses stay honest, and we have a loaded WR corp. The offensive line is young and will be starting a couple of RS freshmen, but that may not be a bad thing when you look at the seniors who were playing there last season.

Our defense had tons of speed and depth. Our safeties are probably the best in CUSA, our d-line is strong, fast, and deep, and while our linebacking corp is a little inexperienced, they're fast as can be and led by one of the best 'backers in the conference, Jeremy Jones.

Special teams we should be set. Kicker Reagan Schneider is clutch as can be, and punter Ryan Hotchkiss is...steady.

Anything other than the CUSA West title will be a dissapointment for Miner fans, though the "experts" seem to be split between us and Tulsa (with a couple picking Houston as well).

The big games of the year are when Texas Blech comes to the Sun Bowl and when the Miners travel to Tulsa and Houston in back-to-back weeks in October (and I'll be able to go to BOTH of those games!).
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Old 08-02-2006, 02:27 PM   #83
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Bad news for OU fans. Reports that Bomar has been dismissed from the team.

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Looks like Texas should be the undisputed favorite in the Big 12 now,
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Old 08-02-2006, 02:41 PM   #84
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Playing ND & Ohio State early this year...QB Morelli is the big question mark, though he's got some great guys to throw to.
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Old 08-02-2006, 02:51 PM   #85
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