Alright boyz, here we go!!! Fallout 3 first impressions thread! - Page 2

SackAttack · 10-27-2008, 11:43 PM

So I just discovered what the mystery package is that arrived in California on Friday. 'Tis from Bethesda.

Josh has to wait a few days for Fallout 3.

Sad Josh is sad.

JetsIn06 · 10-27-2008, 11:48 PM

Still torn on whether to get this for 360 or PC.

Big Fo · 10-27-2008, 11:51 PM

I'm thinking about just getting the console version now, play it on the big screen, and then if mod tools are released down the road and some cool mods come out I can sell it/trade it in and then pick up the PC version which should be less than full price at that point.

pjstp20 · 10-28-2008, 12:03 AM

Here's a review with a note on the various platform options at the end. The author (self admittedly) only has extensive experience with the PC version. Take it for what it's worth I guess.

http://www.shacknews.com/featuredarticle.x?id=1037

pjstp20 · 10-28-2008, 12:06 AM

This game is getting pretty good reviews out of the gate. Here's IGN's:

IGN: Fallout 3 Review

DeToxRox · 10-28-2008, 01:38 AM

Played about an hour. I was exploring a lot of stuff in the vault, but even without that it takes some time. I am not sure if I liked how it begins. It's not a bad way to get you used to the controls but it seemed excessive. I won't spoil much but you see yourself through different ages.

The first "mission" is getting out of the vault. This is where I spent a lot of time because there are some side things you can do, one of which I fucked up on, not that it mattered. I killed someone when I didn't mean to, but she had it coming.

The fighting system is interesting. It is kind of turn based but it isn't. You can throw blows at people, or shoot them or whatever, but if you hit R2 on the PS3 you can focus on a certain body part and do damage. I was destroying guys a baton, and the graphics when you do it are brutal. Loved it.

The graphics are nice. A lot of detail. I'd caution that you should look all over, be it lockers or whatever, and search bodies you see because you can collect some sweet stuff.

Anyway, that is about it so far.

I got Fable 2 last week and Fallout will see a lot of my time. It seems like a lot of fun. I plan on playing a lot more tomorrow when I wake up.

DeToxRox · 10-28-2008, 01:42 AM

I won't lie, I also take great joy in being a dick to people in game. It's a blast.

MizzouRah · 10-28-2008, 09:20 AM

Yeah... this is going to be fun!

Mustang · 10-28-2008, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JetsIn06

Still torn on whether to get this for 360 or PC.

PC PC PC PC

I made the mistake of getting Oblivion for the 360, but ultimately got it for the PC later on just because of the modding community. I anticipate the same for fallout and won't make the same mistake twice.

JetsIn06 · 10-28-2008, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mustang

PC PC PC PC

I made the mistake of getting Oblivion for the 360, but ultimately got it for the PC later on just because of the modding community. I anticipate the same for fallout and won't make the same mistake twice.

I'm worried about my system specs. I have an Nvidia 8600 GTS which is only 256 mb. They suggest 512.

Atocep · 10-28-2008, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mustang

PC PC PC PC

I made the mistake of getting Oblivion for the 360, but ultimately got it for the PC later on just because of the modding community. I anticipate the same for fallout and won't make the same mistake twice.

Fear of the ESRB is keeping them from releasing the modding tools at launch, though. They requested that Bethesda rate Oblivion "M" when it was released based on a user mod that retextured some of the women in the game topless.

Big Fo · 10-28-2008, 10:46 AM

Can You RUN It?

Go here, some program on this website will analyze your computer and tell you whether you meet the min. specs, how close you are to recommeded specs, what part is holding you back the most, etc. They added Fallout 3 a few days ago.

JetsIn06 · 10-28-2008, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Fo

Can You RUN It?

Go here, some program on this website will analyze your computer and tell you whether you meet the min. specs, how close you are to recommeded specs, what part is holding you back the most, etc. They added Fallout 3 a few days ago.

Sounds cool, checking it out now.

JetsIn06 · 10-28-2008, 10:55 AM

Video RAM: Required - 512 MB , You have - 1008 MB

Haha...no I don't.

JetsIn06 · 10-28-2008, 10:57 AM

Okay, we'll figure it out. If I need to get a new video card, so be it.

Downloading on D2D right now. Would go get it at the store but there is a fucking monsoon outside.

hawk4669 · 10-28-2008, 12:21 PM

Mine is on a FedEx truck...somewhere....roaming the city while I wait anxiously.

Cheers!

PurdueBrad · 10-28-2008, 12:30 PM

Mine is sitting in the car waiting for the school day to end. I never buy the strategy guides but for this one, I picked it up. The book is enormous.

DeToxRox · 10-28-2008, 01:10 PM

Jesus. I've been playing two hours today and haven't done anything it feels like. I went to the School in the Wasteland. I stockpiled on items there, but be forewarned, don't go in if you're not ready for a lot of battles. I just got to Megaton and there is so much to do.

Amazing stuff.

Atocep · 10-28-2008, 01:22 PM

I've been playing about an hour so far and I'm amazed. Character creation is incredibly well done and kind of flows with the tutorial part of the game. It looks like there will be a lot of replay value just based on the potential for different playstyles. Voice acting and dialog are very polished and seem more natural than your typical RPG.

I was worried about combat since Oblivion/Morrowind weren't exactly known for their robust combat engines, but I have to say they nailed combat in this game. The combination of on the fly shooting like a typical FPS and the VATS system is impressive.

DeToxRox · 10-28-2008, 02:28 PM

I need some help if anyone can assist:

Spoiler

hukarez · 10-28-2008, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

I killed someone when I didn't mean to, but she had it coming.

I like the way you think...!

So the PS3 defaults to 720p during play of Fallout 3? No 1080i option at the least?

hawk4669 · 10-28-2008, 04:28 PM

Just got ours....finally. But now it is time to pick up the kids from school, soccer practice, etc.

Did get to watch my wife play partially through character creation though.

Impressions will have to wait until tonight.

Looks beautiful btw.

Cheers!

Big Fo · 10-28-2008, 05:24 PM

I just made it outside of the vault, I probably took far longer than I should have but it was fun messing around with VATS (which is pretty cool) and looking for items. Now time to see what's going down in Megaton.

BYU 14 · 10-28-2008, 10:32 PM

Just curious as to how many are using VATS and how many are going with real time combat?

Axxon · 10-28-2008, 10:38 PM

It's installing now. I really wanted to hold off on this one until I'd finished Kings Bounty but I went to lunch with a coworker and when the restaurant was right next to a gamestop I knew I was doomed. *SIGH*

Oh well, tonight is gonna be real fun.

ISiddiqui · 10-28-2008, 11:05 PM

From what I've read, it seems I'll be able to run it on Medium on my PC, which is basically on par with X360 graphics, but I do prefer mouse/keyboard and potential mods, so I'm going to try the PC. And if its too slow... well, I guess it isn't too long until some good deals on graphic cards hit for the Christmas season.

Tasan · 10-28-2008, 11:30 PM

Ugh. I can't wait to play this. Good thing I just got a check today.

Atocep · 10-28-2008, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BYU 14

Just curious as to how many are using VATS and how many are going with real time combat?

I use probably a 50/50 mix.

fantom1979 · 10-29-2008, 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Fo

Can You RUN It?

Go here, some program on this website will analyze your computer and tell you whether you meet the min. specs, how close you are to recommeded specs, what part is holding you back the most, etc. They added Fallout 3 a few days ago.

Great web site, thanks for posting it

Qwikshot · 10-29-2008, 06:26 AM

Played a little last night, I went through the character process twice and didn't feel bored. Just wandered through a very macabre school, but then I wander first before getting around to any main story.

I do love it; however, I miss a feature that was in Dead Space that I think would be quite useful. On the Xbox 360 you can press the right thumbstick down and it gives a line towards your objective, I think that would have been sweet in this game, because once you leave the vault, it's just a sprawl.

spleen1015 · 10-29-2008, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qwikshot

Played a little last night, I went through the character process twice and didn't feel bored. Just wandered through a very macabre school, but then I wander first before getting around to any main story.

I do love it; however, I miss a feature that was in Dead Space that I think would be quite useful. On the Xbox 360 you can press the right thumbstick down and it gives a line towards your objective, I think that would have been sweet in this game, because once you leave the vault, it's just a sprawl.

I believe there are arrows on your compass in the bottom right corner that tells you where your mission objective is.

Fidatelo · 10-29-2008, 08:10 AM

I just picked up Fallout 1 from GOG to eventually work my way up to Fallout 3. I'll check back on this thread in 2010.

Shkspr · 10-29-2008, 08:21 AM

These aren't really spoilers unless you didn't know that war never changes:

As a quick note, the opening movie begins focused on the tubes inside an old radio and slowly zooms out to reveal that the radio is sitting inside a bombed out bus. Having grown up in the DC area, I immediately got a sense of nostalgia in recognizing the distinctive interior layout of a Metrobus. I'm really looking forward to seeing if I recognize anything else (besides the obvious) from my childhood. Of course, Bethesda Softworks had reasonably close access to the source material, I'm guessing.

I also note with some amusement that Vault 101 is located more or less right below my childhood home, if the map is to be trusted.

spleen1015 · 10-29-2008, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shkspr

These aren't really spoilers unless you didn't know that war never changes:

As a quick note, the opening movie begins focused on the tubes inside an old radio and slowly zooms out to reveal that the radio is sitting inside a bombed out bus. Having grown up in the DC area, I immediately got a sense of nostalgia in recognizing the distinctive interior layout of a Metrobus. I'm really looking forward to seeing if I recognize anything else (besides the obvious) from my childhood. Of course, Bethesda Softworks had reasonably close access to the source material, I'm guessing.

I also note with some amusement that Vault 101 is located more or less right below my childhood home, if the map is to be trusted.

I lived in DC from when I was 7 until I was 14. I am interested in seeing what is in the spot where my Junior High School is.

BYU 14 · 10-29-2008, 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shkspr

I also note with some amusement that Vault 101 is located more or less right below my childhood home, if the map is to be trusted.

At least you won't have far to travel to safety

Qwikshot · 10-29-2008, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015

I believe there are arrows on your compass in the bottom right corner that tells you where your mission objective is.

Yeah, but I guess I just like the visual of that Dead Space feature.

MizzouRah · 10-29-2008, 09:04 AM

Just played for a few hours last night.. but so far I'm really engrossed.

Hopefully get many hours tonight to play..

Big Fo · 10-29-2008, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BYU 14

Just curious as to how many are using VATS and how many are going with real time combat?

I prefer the VATS but have gotten some normal kills when I run out of action points. I real-time combat for melee weapons.

I need some more ammunition but the weapons shop in Megaton seems to be locked even in daytime. Weird.

KWhit · 10-29-2008, 09:46 AM

I'm loving it so far. I'm having a little trouble finding my way around Megaton - everything looks the same - gray, brown, and more gray and brown.

But it sure is fun.

PurdueBrad · 10-29-2008, 10:28 AM

I put in four hours of play time yesterday and it's pretty amazing. It addresses a lot of what I had trouble getting into with Oblivion (load times and I'm not big on the sword/magic thing). The outside world is incredibly daunting. One choice I made:

Spoiler

CamEdwards · 10-29-2008, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Fo

I prefer the VATS but have gotten some normal kills when I run out of action points. I real-time combat for melee weapons.

I need some more ammunition but the weapons shop in Megaton seems to be locked even in daytime. Weird.

I'm having a similar problem with Moriarty's saloon in Megaton. I've yet to be able to go inside, because it's locked day and night.

Atocep · 10-29-2008, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamEdwards

I'm having a similar problem with Moriarty's saloon in Megaton. I've yet to be able to go inside, because it's locked day and night.

There's a side door to the place that's locked and there's also a front door, which should always be open.

JetsIn06 · 10-29-2008, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

I put in four hours of play time yesterday and it's pretty amazing. It addresses a lot of what I had trouble getting into with Oblivion (load times and I'm not big on the sword/magic thing). The outside world is incredibly daunting. One choice I made:

Spoiler

spleen1015 · 10-29-2008, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

I put in four hours of play time yesterday and it's pretty amazing. It addresses a lot of what I had trouble getting into with Oblivion (load times and I'm not big on the sword/magic thing). The outside world is incredibly daunting. One choice I made:

Spoiler

PurdueBrad · 10-29-2008, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atocep

There's a side door to the place that's locked and there's also a front door, which should always be open.

I've noticed that the front door is sometimes lock at night and early morning. Since I started doing her missions though she has always been open I believe.

DeToxRox · 10-29-2008, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JetsIn06

Spoiler

Yep. I shived the shit out of that motherfucker.

Axxon · 10-29-2008, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Yep. I shived the shit out of that motherfucker.

I haven't killed him yet but the overseer is no more.

PurdueBrad · 10-29-2008, 02:10 PM

I don't think this is a spoiler. Was anyone able to get out of the vault WITH the girl? I too killed the overseer but I guess using VAT I could've disabled him and maybe that would've worked.

DeToxRox · 10-29-2008, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

I don't think this is a spoiler. Was anyone able to get out of the vault WITH the girl? I too killed the overseer but I guess using VAT I could've disabled him and maybe that would've worked.

I couldn't.

How far are you Brad?

PurdueBrad · 10-29-2008, 02:36 PM

Hey DeTox-

Not too far actually, I did a crapload of exploring early. I've reached Megaton, did what I said in the spoiler and went to the grocery store for Moira at the supply shop. I am either going to follow the path to find dad (paid 300 caps for that info, ugh!) or keep screwing around with Moira's missions. How about you?

10-28-2008, 12:03 AM	#54
pjstp20 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tallahassee, FL	Here's a review with a note on the various platform options at the end. The author (self admittedly) only has extensive experience with the PC version. Take it for what it's worth I guess. http://www.shacknews.com/featuredarticle.x?id=1037 Last edited by pjstp20 : 10-28-2008 at 12:03 AM.

10-28-2008, 12:21 PM	#66
hawk4669 High School JV Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Northern California	Mine is on a FedEx truck...somewhere....roaming the city while I wait anxiously. Cheers! __________________ Hawk4669 www.hbfire.org

10-28-2008, 02:28 PM	#70
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	I need some help if anyone can assist: Spoiler I am at the radio station having just killed that huge Monster. Inside it's being overrun and I keep dying. Outside I have more of a fighting chance but still am dying. Has anyone had this same problem? I need to talk to Three Dog but its becoming impossible to get to him.

10-28-2008, 04:28 PM	#72
hawk4669 High School JV Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Northern California	Just got ours....finally. But now it is time to pick up the kids from school, soccer practice, etc. Did get to watch my wife play partially through character creation though. Impressions will have to wait until tonight. Looks beautiful btw. Cheers! __________________ Hawk4669 www.hbfire.org

10-28-2008, 10:38 PM	#75
Axxon Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Phoenix, AZ	It's installing now. I really wanted to hold off on this one until I'd finished Kings Bounty but I went to lunch with a coworker and when the restaurant was right next to a gamestop I knew I was doomed. SIGH Oh well, tonight is gonna be real fun. __________________ There are no houris, alas, in our heaven.

10-27-2008, 11:48 PM	#52
JetsIn06 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rahway, NJ	Still torn on whether to get this for 360 or PC.

10-27-2008, 11:51 PM	#53
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	I'm thinking about just getting the console version now, play it on the big screen, and then if mod tools are released down the road and some cool mods come out I can sell it/trade it in and then pick up the PC version which should be less than full price at that point.

10-28-2008, 12:06 AM	#55
pjstp20 High School Varsity Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Tallahassee, FL	This game is getting pretty good reviews out of the gate. Here's IGN's: IGN: Fallout 3 Review

10-28-2008, 01:38 AM	#56
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Played about an hour. I was exploring a lot of stuff in the vault, but even without that it takes some time. I am not sure if I liked how it begins. It's not a bad way to get you used to the controls but it seemed excessive. I won't spoil much but you see yourself through different ages. The first "mission" is getting out of the vault. This is where I spent a lot of time because there are some side things you can do, one of which I fucked up on, not that it mattered. I killed someone when I didn't mean to, but she had it coming. The fighting system is interesting. It is kind of turn based but it isn't. You can throw blows at people, or shoot them or whatever, but if you hit R2 on the PS3 you can focus on a certain body part and do damage. I was destroying guys a baton, and the graphics when you do it are brutal. Loved it. The graphics are nice. A lot of detail. I'd caution that you should look all over, be it lockers or whatever, and search bodies you see because you can collect some sweet stuff. Anyway, that is about it so far. I got Fable 2 last week and Fallout will see a lot of my time. It seems like a lot of fun. I plan on playing a lot more tomorrow when I wake up.

10-28-2008, 01:42 AM	#57
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	I won't lie, I also take great joy in being a dick to people in game. It's a blast.

10-28-2008, 09:20 AM	#58
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Yeah... this is going to be fun!

10-28-2008, 10:46 AM	#62
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Can You RUN It? Go here, some program on this website will analyze your computer and tell you whether you meet the min. specs, how close you are to recommeded specs, what part is holding you back the most, etc. They added Fallout 3 a few days ago.

10-28-2008, 10:57 AM	#65
JetsIn06 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rahway, NJ	Okay, we'll figure it out. If I need to get a new video card, so be it. Downloading on D2D right now. Would go get it at the store but there is a fucking monsoon outside.

10-28-2008, 12:30 PM	#67
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Mine is sitting in the car waiting for the school day to end. I never buy the strategy guides but for this one, I picked it up. The book is enormous.

10-28-2008, 01:10 PM	#68
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	Jesus. I've been playing two hours today and haven't done anything it feels like. I went to the School in the Wasteland. I stockpiled on items there, but be forewarned, don't go in if you're not ready for a lot of battles. I just got to Megaton and there is so much to do. Amazing stuff.

10-28-2008, 01:22 PM	#69
Atocep Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Puyallup, WA	I've been playing about an hour so far and I'm amazed. Character creation is incredibly well done and kind of flows with the tutorial part of the game. It looks like there will be a lot of replay value just based on the potential for different playstyles. Voice acting and dialog are very polished and seem more natural than your typical RPG. I was worried about combat since Oblivion/Morrowind weren't exactly known for their robust combat engines, but I have to say they nailed combat in this game. The combination of on the fly shooting like a typical FPS and the VATS system is impressive.

10-28-2008, 05:24 PM	#73
Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	I just made it outside of the vault, I probably took far longer than I should have but it was fun messing around with VATS (which is pretty cool) and looking for items. Now time to see what's going down in Megaton.

10-28-2008, 10:32 PM	#74
BYU 14 Coordinator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The scorched Desert	Just curious as to how many are using VATS and how many are going with real time combat?

10-28-2008, 11:05 PM	#76
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	From what I've read, it seems I'll be able to run it on Medium on my PC, which is basically on par with X360 graphics, but I do prefer mouse/keyboard and potential mods, so I'm going to try the PC. And if its too slow... well, I guess it isn't too long until some good deals on graphic cards hit for the Christmas season. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

10-28-2008, 11:30 PM	#77
Tasan College Starter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houston, or there about	Ugh. I can't wait to play this. Good thing I just got a check today. __________________ 2011 Golden Scribes winner for best Interactive Dynasty

10-29-2008, 06:26 AM	#80
Qwikshot Pro Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ...down the gravity well	Played a little last night, I went through the character process twice and didn't feel bored. Just wandered through a very macabre school, but then I wander first before getting around to any main story. I do love it; however, I miss a feature that was in Dead Space that I think would be quite useful. On the Xbox 360 you can press the right thumbstick down and it gives a line towards your objective, I think that would have been sweet in this game, because once you leave the vault, it's just a sprawl. __________________ "General Woundwort's body was never found. It could be that he still lives his fierce life somewhere else, but from that day on, mother rabbits would tell their kittens that if they did not do as they were told, the General would get them. Such was Woundwort's monument, and perhaps it would not have displeased him." Watership Down, Richard Adams

10-29-2008, 08:10 AM	#82
Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	I just picked up Fallout 1 from GOG to eventually work my way up to Fallout 3. I'll check back on this thread in 2010. __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

10-29-2008, 08:21 AM	#83
Shkspr College Benchwarmer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Amarillo, TX	These aren't really spoilers unless you didn't know that war never changes: As a quick note, the opening movie begins focused on the tubes inside an old radio and slowly zooms out to reveal that the radio is sitting inside a bombed out bus. Having grown up in the DC area, I immediately got a sense of nostalgia in recognizing the distinctive interior layout of a Metrobus. I'm really looking forward to seeing if I recognize anything else (besides the obvious) from my childhood. Of course, Bethesda Softworks had reasonably close access to the source material, I'm guessing. I also note with some amusement that Vault 101 is located more or less right below my childhood home, if the map is to be trusted.

10-29-2008, 09:04 AM	#87
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Troy, Mo	Just played for a few hours last night.. but so far I'm really engrossed. Hopefully get many hours tonight to play..

10-29-2008, 09:46 AM	#89
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I'm loving it so far. I'm having a little trouble finding my way around Megaton - everything looks the same - gray, brown, and more gray and brown. But it sure is fun.

10-29-2008, 10:28 AM	#90
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	I put in four hours of play time yesterday and it's pretty amazing. It addresses a lot of what I had trouble getting into with Oblivion (load times and I'm not big on the sword/magic thing). The outside world is incredibly daunting. One choice I made: Spoiler I turned in Mr. Burke/Brooks to the Sheriff and when he went to arrest him, he drew a gun so I capped him. No reward but I can no longer blow up the town for a reward. I got karma points I believe.

10-29-2008, 02:10 PM	#98
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	I don't think this is a spoiler. Was anyone able to get out of the vault WITH the girl? I too killed the overseer but I guess using VAT I could've disabled him and maybe that would've worked.

10-29-2008, 02:36 PM	#100
PurdueBrad Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: DeKalb, IL	Hey DeTox- Not too far actually, I did a crapload of exploring early. I've reached Megaton, did what I said in the spoiler and went to the grocery store for Moira at the supply shop. I am either going to follow the path to find dad (paid 300 caps for that info, ugh!) or keep screwing around with Moira's missions. How about you?

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