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Old 12-02-2008, 04:03 PM   #51
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So even though you don't know the success rate (except for the handful of quashed terrorist plots that have been revealed, and the fact that there have zero terrorist attacks in the most hated country on earth in the last 7 years while terrorism has increased everywhere else), you want to cut all Homeland Security & Defense spending?

We have no choice but to trust the president and others in the know. Do you trust Obama and his team? I feel like if Obama comes out and has the exact same policy stances on terrorism (publicly) as Bush, people will support it, and that's not a bad thing.

If the success rate is so wonderful, why aren't we hearing more about it? How many law enforcement groups have you known to downplay their successes? What about politicians declining photo ops?

I would think for all the money they've spent, they'd have a little something more than a guy with explodable shoes, a group that was going to infiltrate a military base dressed as pizza guys, a group that was going to defy physics to set a gas pipe on fire and the UK guys who were going to make a bomb in an airplane lavoratory. I understand the secrecy required for some of this but is that it? Really?

If that's all they've got (and I'm not saying it is mind you, only what I've heard/read about that comes to mind) then fuck yeah I want to slash their budget as it's not accomplishing a GD thing other than making $$$ for security vendors.

As far as trusting the Government (Bush or Obama) you've got to be out of your GD mind. All they do is lie, cheat and steal and you say we've got no choice but to trust them?

The only allocation of resources the government does is to ask how much, and then how much more. That's true for all facets of government, not just security. And maybe if enough people bitch about it, maybe, possibly some positive change can happen. I'm not holding my breath.

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Old 12-02-2008, 04:19 PM   #52
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The motivation for the attacks is clear. It was revenge for India reneging on their agreement to the UIR to stop the US forces from entering the Persian Gulf. India had chosen to ally itself with the UIR but backed out after the terrorist attack against the US and a very stern warning from the President.

WTF? Where do you come up with this?
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Old 12-02-2008, 04:25 PM   #53
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Old 12-05-2008, 02:51 PM   #54
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And today 18 are dead as a blast rips through Peshawar:

At Least 18 Dead in Pakistan Blast - NYTimes.com
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Old 12-13-2008, 07:02 PM   #55
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Captured terrorist asking for Pakistani legal help. Wonder how come no one is complaining about the torture in India?

Mumbai suspect requests legal aid from Pakistan - CNN.com

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NEW DELHI, India (CNN) -- The only surviving suspect in last month's attacks in Mumbai has written a letter to the Pakistan High Commission, or embassy, seeking legal aid, CNN's sister network in India reported Saturday, quoting a Mumbai police official.

Investigators said that Mohammad Ajmal Kasab is from Faridkot village in the Okara district of Pakistan's Punjab province and that the other nine attackers also are from Pakistan. Pakistani officials have denied that assertion, blaming instead "stateless actors."

Rakesh Maria, Mumbai's joint police commissioner of crime, said Saturday that Kasab's three-page letter was written in Urdu. In the letter, Kasab confesses his role in the attacks, CNN-IBN said.
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Old 12-13-2008, 07:06 PM   #56
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Probably depends on whether it was Pakistani-sponsored or somebody who stands to gain from setting Pakistan and India at one another's throats. If it's the latter, writing the letter would just serve as a link for the Indian government to seize on.

A little too overt to take seriously...unless you're looking for a scapegoat.
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