Lost Season 6 - The Final Season - Page 2

Alan T · 02-03-2010, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Toddzilla

I'm pissed off that they've introduced yet *another* society living on that damn island that no one ever saw before or knew about.

Weak plot crutch IMO

That wasn't another society though was it? Those were simply more "Others" part of the same group as Richard and them. The firecracker they set off was to I assume alert the other "Others" around the island. The stewardess from the original flight and the two kids both were there, so I assume that is just one of the places the Others live.

In fact when the troops were coming to the island a few seasons below, Ben had Richard take everyone back to the temple to be protected anyways. So this wasn't a new society, it just was finally showing us what was inside since we had never seen it before.

Honolulu_Blue · 02-03-2010, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Toddzilla

I'm pissed off that they've introduced yet *another* society living on that damn island that no one ever saw before or knew about.

Weak plot crutch IMO

I sort of thought that the group of people living in the temple are "The Others" and the temple is their "homebase". At least that's how I understood it. I could be wrong here.

Kodos · 02-03-2010, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

Other odd things afoot:

Hurley is now lucky instead of unlucky
Jack's little cut/bruise

Here's a whole list: Differences between flashsideways timeline and original timeline - Lostpedia - The Lost Encyclopedia

Charlie's hair was different too. Shorter.

Chubby · 02-03-2010, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

If that is all that there is to it for Sayid, why was it so important that he stay alive? Why did they say they were all in big trouble if he died? That seems to build it up to be far more than simply another Richard type role.

Certainly possible just as it's possible Jacob used Sayid's body to come back and Sayid was the actual "candidate"

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 02-03-2010, 11:10 AM

It's an interesting thought Chubby but wasn't Lapidus mentioned as a candidate before Ilana/Bram had any knowledge that Jacob was in danger? Or was this all somehow foretold to some extent?

Alan T · 02-03-2010, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

It's an interesting thought Chubby but wasn't Lapidus mentioned as a candidate before Ilana/Bram had any knowledge that Jacob was in danger? Or was this all somehow foretold to some extent?

I'm guessing this will eventually go back to the very start of the season 5 finale episode where Jacob said the line that went something like "It ends only once, everything else is just progress". Meaning that Jacob guessed that his rival would find the loophole and he prepared for it and this season will eventually unveil the entire chess puzzle of moves that led up to this scenerio.

Chubby · 02-03-2010, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

It's an interesting thought Chubby but wasn't Lapidus mentioned as a candidate before Ilana/Bram had any knowledge that Jacob was in danger? Or was this all somehow foretold to some extent?

I'm guessing that Jacob's "favor" of Illana was to bring the dead body of Locke to Jacob and that he told her he would need a new body at some point.

Chubby · 02-03-2010, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

I'm guessing this will eventually go back to the very start of the season 5 finale episode where Jacob said the line that went something like "It ends only once, everything else is just progress". Meaning that Jacob guessed that his rival would find the loophole and he prepared for it and this season will eventually unveil the entire chess puzzle of moves that led up to this scenerio.

Agreed 100%. I think this is why Jacob let Ben kill him and basically goaded him into it.. "What about you?"

I think Jacob touching the losties and the guitar case (with the ankh and note) is evidence of Jacob seeing what was coming and preparing for it.

I really don't get Miles' purpose at this point if Hurley can see costs and talk with them, Miles' ability came into play once (with Daniel if I remember) but Hurley can do the same thing but better...

Alan T · 02-03-2010, 11:20 AM

But Hurley has to wait for the dead people to visit him. Miles can evidently go to the dead people. So while similar abilities both seem to have some purpose. Miles does seem a bit out of place now however considering he's still around, but I guess we will see what happens with him.

Chubby · 02-03-2010, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

But Hurley has to wait for the dead people to visit him. Miles can evidently go to the dead people. So while similar abilities both seem to have some purpose. Miles does seem a bit out of place now however considering he's still around, but I guess we will see what happens with him.

True. I predict death, now whether it's sacrificing himself to save someone else who knows. It's not like he's particulary attached to anyone at this point...

Pyser · 02-03-2010, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chubby

Certainly possible just as it's possible Jacob used Sayid's body to come back and Sayid was the actual "candidate"

thats what i thought too. though using jacks body wouldve made more sense, since its always been jack vs locke, but whatever

Chubby · 02-03-2010, 12:51 PM

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thats what i thought too. though using jacks body wouldve made more sense, since its always been jack vs locke, but whatever

In an interview somewhere Damon/Carlton said they weren't killing Sayid off (Jack too I think) so once he died I figured he wasn't really dead...

Samdari · 02-03-2010, 01:38 PM

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In an interview somewhere Damon/Carlton said they weren't killing Sayid off (Jack too I think) so once he died I figured he wasn't really dead...

They also said in an interview/podcast that they would never use alternate timelines/realities, so don't take their promises for the future to be sacrosanct.

sabotai · 02-03-2010, 02:38 PM

I completely missed Jin and Sun not being married in the alternate timeline (according to what was linked to earlier). I wonder why she felt the need to hide her knowledge of English? Or maybe she doesn't know English in this timeline, but it looked like she did.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 02-03-2010, 02:41 PM

Wow, that was really subtle. I agree that she definitely seemed to understand the customs agent.

BishopMVP · 02-03-2010, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sabotai

I completely missed Jin and Sun not being married in the alternate timeline (according to what was linked to earlier). I wonder why she felt the need to hide her knowledge of English?

Because she learned English without Jin's knowledge (from the guy she slept with). She hid it S1 on the island too.

sabotai · 02-03-2010, 10:02 PM

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Because she learned English without Jin's knowledge (from the guy she slept with). She hid it S1 on the island too.

Right, but the reason she hid it was so Jin wouldn't know. If they're not married in the alternate timeline, it wouldn't matter if Jin knows or not so there's no reason to hide it (if she does know English in the alternate timeline)

DanGarion · 02-03-2010, 10:35 PM

I read this on another site.

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There are no chicken sandwiches in the parking lot. There are only dreamers. Sure, one could make the case that you can't make linoleum a religious symbol, and even if you could, why would oranges go to Buffalo? I sit here with my shoes and my can opener and I wonder about President Taft. There are rules for gasoline, and maybe - just maybe - the omelets will fly.

Julio Riddols · 02-04-2010, 04:23 AM

That appears to be a finished Mad Lib.

Pyser · 02-10-2010, 01:15 AM

15 episodes left and we get that piece of crap?

bob · 02-10-2010, 06:03 AM

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15 episodes left and we get that piece of crap?

Agreed - I think that was one of worst three episodes of the show ever, especially given how close we are to the end. I guess we will have no more questions, as the promos say, because nothing happens during the episode.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 02-10-2010, 06:05 AM

I still enjoyed it (like I said, I'm a shill) but thank god it's the last Kate episode ever. Or at least I assume.

Definitely a letdown to some degree, though. Next week looks to pick it back up.

Samdari · 02-10-2010, 07:14 AM

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Next week looks to pick it back up.

The promos made this week look pretty interesting. Instead, this just keeps getting worse.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 02-10-2010, 07:23 AM

DarkUFO polled his spoiler sources before the year for the best episodes (or scripts), and this one was below all of the others, far below all but one other. The next one got a better rating than the premier, so I've got high hopes.

For those interested, link is spoilered below. Only spoilers are episode titles and consensus review.

Spoiler

Chubby · 02-10-2010, 08:54 AM

The episode was kinda blah but I'm not that surprised when it was a character centered episode. Kinda dumb we got no shots of where smokie took Richard. I'm assuming Sayid has the same thing that Rousseau's crew had...

Swaggs · 02-10-2010, 10:11 AM

I didn't think it was great, but it wasn't too bad for me. I didn't mind the Kate backstory and thought the last 10 or 15-minutes with the Jack/Sayid pill thing and then reminding us that Claire is still on the island was pretty good.

For me, I just think they're overdoing it with Sawyer mourning -- I think they've hammered the point in a little too far, particularly since the previous seasons had went to great lenghts to establish the fact that Sawyer had been hardened over the years (w/ his parents and then his previous relationship and child).

Swaggs · 02-10-2010, 10:12 AM

Dola.

I'm not so much opposed to the fact that Sawyer is grieving, but more that they spent such a considerable amount of time in these first episodes of the season to continue to hammer at it, rather than spending the time showing something a little more interesting.

MrDNA · 02-10-2010, 10:28 AM

It occurs to me that I remember very little about last night's episode, except that Mac from Always Sunny in Philly was playing a dramatic role. I'm pretty sure that broke my brain.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 02-10-2010, 10:30 AM

For me, the big question out of that episode is Sayid and "the sickness". Is this sickness related to the Man In Black, and perhaps to Sayid's dark past? Can the Man In Black only take over "bad people" and opposed to the famous "good people" throughout the show?

Samdari · 02-10-2010, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

For me, the big question out of that episode is Sayid and "the sickness". Is this sickness related to the Man In Black, and perhaps to Sayid's dark past? Can the Man In Black only take over "bad people" and opposed to the famous "good people" throughout the show?

I see this all the time and it drives me nuts.

The smoke monster does not 'take over' or 'possess' people or bodies, it assumes the form of dead people on the island - notice John Locke's body in the box while Fake Locke was fooling everyone.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 02-10-2010, 10:39 AM

Well I'm not convinced it's quite that easy. Where did Christian's body go after the crash? Where did Yemi's body go?

Samdari · 02-10-2010, 10:49 AM

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Well I'm not convinced it's quite that easy. Where did Christian's body go after the crash? Where did Yemi's body go?

Christian's body is problematic. Yemi's is not missing though - you could just assume that its still on the little plane.

The one case where it is clear cut, the smoke moster takes the form of Locke, but does not animate his body. I am assuming that is how it always works. Other theories could be drawn, but everything else is conjecture, the Locke thing is cut and dried.

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 02-10-2010, 10:53 AM

No, Eko went back to find Yemi's body and it was no longer there.

I agree that the Locke one certainly points heavily in the "take the form" direction. I'm just not sure they've completely thought it through, or that both possibilities don't exist.

I think the "new Claire" might also be a part of this conversation at some point. Before she disappeared Miles certainly seemed to be hinting that she was actually dead.

JetsIn06 · 02-10-2010, 11:02 AM

I liked the episode a lot.

spleen1015 · 02-10-2010, 11:04 AM

I think the sickness is perhaps MIB resurrecting people, thus tainting them in some way. This would explain Miles thinking Claire was dead.

MIB takes the form of some dead people. I don't think he uses their bodies.

Toddzilla · 02-10-2010, 12:58 PM

He clearly doesn't use their bodies - we saw him as Locke walk past Locke's dead body juts last week.

sabotai · 02-10-2010, 01:11 PM

Son of a diddly! I knew I forgot to watch something last night! Time to spend the next 45 minutes on Hulu.

Thomkal · 02-10-2010, 02:42 PM

I'm just glad they remembered Claire existed. Other than that, this episode was pretty meh to me.

Draft Dodger · 02-10-2010, 08:06 PM

I think I'm about done with the alternate timeline thing

panerd · 02-10-2010, 08:48 PM

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Ethan showing up as Claire's doctor was a shocker.

Yeah that one was a bit unusual. So Ethan was in another section of the plane that crashed, correct? How was he on duty as a doctor only an hour or so after the plane landed?

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 02-10-2010, 09:06 PM

Ethan was born on the island. He was with the Dharma Initiative.

DanGarion · 02-10-2010, 09:52 PM

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Ethan showing up as Claire's doctor was a shocker.

And the fact that the guy at the auto shop was someone from the others wasn't?

DeToxRox · 02-10-2010, 09:54 PM

I decided tonight to start rewatching Lost from season one. I figure it'll take a month or two to finish but it's a nice supplement between new episodes.

I will say this though, re-watching season 1, I am not angry Michael is gone.

DanGarion · 02-10-2010, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

I decided tonight to start rewatching Lost from season one. I figure it'll take a month or two to finish but it's a nice supplement between new episodes.

I will say this though, re-watching season 1, I am not angry Michael is gone.

WALT!

Alan T · 02-10-2010, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

I decided tonight to start rewatching Lost from season one. I figure it'll take a month or two to finish but it's a nice supplement between new episodes.

I will say this though, re-watching season 1, I am not angry Michael is gone.

I did that over my Christmas break and part of January. Was fun going back through some of the old episodes.

Toddzilla · 02-11-2010, 09:21 AM

I found it very poignant that on the scene on the docks, where Sawyer is grieving over Juliet with Kate sitting there, Sawyer hammers home the point that it's over between he and Kate and he has no feelings for her at all anymore. "I'm sorry I followed you" she says. "Which time?" he replies. He tosses the ring and walks off, and Kate breaks down. Not because she sympathizes with Sawyer, but because she recognizes that he doesn't care for her anymore.

DanGarion · 02-11-2010, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Toddzilla

I found it very poignant that on the scene on the docks, where Sawyer is grieving over Juliet with Kate sitting there, Sawyer hammers home the point that it's over between he and Kate and he has no feelings for her at all anymore. "I'm sorry I followed you" she says. "Which time?" he replies. He tosses the ring and walks off, and Kate breaks down. Not because she sympathizes with Sawyer, but because she recognizes that he doesn't care for her anymore.

Let's just hope it stays that way.

Toddzilla · 02-11-2010, 11:48 AM

I want to apologize for my last post for sounding way too much like a bitch.

Pyser · 02-11-2010, 12:38 PM

heres how the rest of the season should go down.

every episode, someone should get to kill kate. then she should get brought back to life, so we can kill her again.

hell, lets do it in both timelines. then she can die 30 times!

Dodgerchick · 02-11-2010, 08:37 PM

So umm... I thought this was the season when questions were gonna be answered? So far, we're 3 episodes in and nothing. I swear, if this ends up being someone's dream I'm gonna be pretty pissed.

02-03-2010, 11:10 AM	#55
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	It's an interesting thought Chubby but wasn't Lapidus mentioned as a candidate before Ilana/Bram had any knowledge that Jacob was in danger? Or was this all somehow foretold to some extent? __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

02-03-2010, 11:20 AM	#59
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	But Hurley has to wait for the dead people to visit him. Miles can evidently go to the dead people. So while similar abilities both seem to have some purpose. Miles does seem a bit out of place now however considering he's still around, but I guess we will see what happens with him. __________________ Couch to ??k - From the couch to a Marathon in roughly 18 months.

02-03-2010, 02:41 PM	#65
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	Wow, that was really subtle. I agree that she definitely seemed to understand the customs agent. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

02-04-2010, 04:23 AM	#69
Julio Riddols College Prospect Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Bryson Shitty, NC	That appears to be a finished Mad Lib. __________________ Recklessly enthused, stubbornly amused. FUCK EA

02-10-2010, 06:05 AM	#72
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	I still enjoyed it (like I said, I'm a shill) but thank god it's the last Kate episode ever. Or at least I assume. Definitely a letdown to some degree, though. Next week looks to pick it back up. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think Last edited by Ronnie Dobbs2 : 02-10-2010 at 06:06 AM.

02-03-2010, 02:38 PM	#64
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	I completely missed Jin and Sun not being married in the alternate timeline (according to what was linked to earlier). I wonder why she felt the need to hide her knowledge of English? Or maybe she doesn't know English in this timeline, but it looked like she did.

02-10-2010, 01:15 AM	#70
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	15 episodes left and we get that piece of crap?

02-10-2010, 07:23 AM	#74
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	DarkUFO polled his spoiler sources before the year for the best episodes (or scripts), and this one was below all of the others, far below all but one other. The next one got a better rating than the premier, so I've got high hopes. For those interested, link is spoilered below. Only spoilers are episode titles and consensus review. Spoiler Lost Season 6 - Episode Scorecard \| Lost Season 6 __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think Last edited by Ronnie Dobbs2 : 02-10-2010 at 07:26 AM.

02-10-2010, 08:54 AM	#75
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	The episode was kinda blah but I'm not that surprised when it was a character centered episode. Kinda dumb we got no shots of where smokie took Richard. I'm assuming Sayid has the same thing that Rousseau's crew had...

02-10-2010, 10:11 AM	#76
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	I didn't think it was great, but it wasn't too bad for me. I didn't mind the Kate backstory and thought the last 10 or 15-minutes with the Jack/Sayid pill thing and then reminding us that Claire is still on the island was pretty good. For me, I just think they're overdoing it with Sawyer mourning -- I think they've hammered the point in a little too far, particularly since the previous seasons had went to great lenghts to establish the fact that Sawyer had been hardened over the years (w/ his parents and then his previous relationship and child). __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

02-10-2010, 10:12 AM	#77
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Dola. I'm not so much opposed to the fact that Sawyer is grieving, but more that they spent such a considerable amount of time in these first episodes of the season to continue to hammer at it, rather than spending the time showing something a little more interesting. __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

02-10-2010, 10:28 AM	#78
MrDNA High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2007	It occurs to me that I remember very little about last night's episode, except that Mac from Always Sunny in Philly was playing a dramatic role. I'm pretty sure that broke my brain. __________________ Norfolk Flame (Shiba) Jacksonville Bulls (UFL) R.I.P. *Ayr Bravehearts (FOFL)*

02-10-2010, 10:30 AM	#79
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	For me, the big question out of that episode is Sayid and "the sickness". Is this sickness related to the Man In Black, and perhaps to Sayid's dark past? Can the Man In Black only take over "bad people" and opposed to the famous "good people" throughout the show? __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

02-10-2010, 10:39 AM	#81
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	Well I'm not convinced it's quite that easy. Where did Christian's body go after the crash? Where did Yemi's body go? __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

02-10-2010, 10:53 AM	#83
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	No, Eko went back to find Yemi's body and it was no longer there. I agree that the Locke one certainly points heavily in the "take the form" direction. I'm just not sure they've completely thought it through, or that both possibilities don't exist. I think the "new Claire" might also be a part of this conversation at some point. Before she disappeared Miles certainly seemed to be hinting that she was actually dead. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think Last edited by Ronnie Dobbs2 : 02-10-2010 at 10:53 AM.

02-10-2010, 11:02 AM	#84
JetsIn06 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Rahway, NJ	I liked the episode a lot.

02-10-2010, 11:04 AM	#85
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	I think the sickness is perhaps MIB resurrecting people, thus tainting them in some way. This would explain Miles thinking Claire was dead. MIB takes the form of some dead people. I don't think he uses their bodies. __________________ Why choose failure when success is an option? Last edited by spleen1015 : 02-10-2010 at 11:06 AM.

02-10-2010, 12:58 PM	#86
Toddzilla Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burke, VA	He clearly doesn't use their bodies - we saw him as Locke walk past Locke's dead body juts last week.

02-10-2010, 01:11 PM	#87
sabotai General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Satellite of Love	Son of a diddly! I knew I forgot to watch something last night! Time to spend the next 45 minutes on Hulu.

02-10-2010, 02:42 PM	#88
Thomkal Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Surfside Beach,SC USA	I'm just glad they remembered Claire existed. Other than that, this episode was pretty meh to me.

02-10-2010, 08:06 PM	#89
Draft Dodger Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Keene, NH	I think I'm about done with the alternate timeline thing __________________ Mile High Hockey

02-10-2010, 09:06 PM	#91
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	Ethan was born on the island. He was with the Dharma Initiative. __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think

02-10-2010, 09:54 PM	#93
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	I decided tonight to start rewatching Lost from season one. I figure it'll take a month or two to finish but it's a nice supplement between new episodes. I will say this though, re-watching season 1, I am not angry Michael is gone.

02-11-2010, 09:21 AM	#96
Toddzilla Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burke, VA	I found it very poignant that on the scene on the docks, where Sawyer is grieving over Juliet with Kate sitting there, Sawyer hammers home the point that it's over between he and Kate and he has no feelings for her at all anymore. "I'm sorry I followed you" she says. "Which time?" he replies. He tosses the ring and walks off, and Kate breaks down. Not because she sympathizes with Sawyer, but because she recognizes that he doesn't care for her anymore.

02-11-2010, 11:48 AM	#98
Toddzilla Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Burke, VA	I want to apologize for my last post for sounding way too much like a bitch.

02-11-2010, 12:38 PM	#99
Pyser Pro Rookie Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Los Angeles	heres how the rest of the season should go down. every episode, someone should get to kill kate. then she should get brought back to life, so we can kill her again. hell, lets do it in both timelines. then she can die 30 times!

02-11-2010, 08:37 PM	#100
Dodgerchick College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Austin, TX	So umm... I thought this was the season when questions were gonna be answered? So far, we're 3 episodes in and nothing. I swear, if this ends up being someone's dream I'm gonna be pretty pissed. __________________ DON'T ITCH THAT NOSE! A Meditation Dynasty

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