NFL Week 4 Discussion Thread: McNabb returns to Philly.. - Page 2

RainMaker · 09-29-2010, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal

/rant on

You mean someone else wanted him besides Jacksonville? The overall talent of QB's in the NFL right now might be the weakest its ever been. And my god if they have to play 2 extra games? I wonder how many original starters will still have their job by the end of the season due to injury or general suckiness?

I mean my beloved Cards, after stupidly giving up on Matt Leinart, may how have an undrafted rookie starting for them soon since "heir apparant" Derek Anderson, you know the guy who was one of the worse QB's in the NFL last year? still sucks this year. Leinart could be a lot closer to starting if he had waited to sign than a "I have to hope he gets injured or I won't get to play a down this
year" Matt Schaub. Injuries and poor performances were always going to happen the first three weeks of the season-I mean the Steelers were down to their 4th QB!, and he's pretty well off I think from that rookie 1st round QB contract he signed.

/rant off

Now watch Max Hall through for 400 yards in his first start the Cards.

Are Quarterbacks getting hurt much these days? It seems a lot of the rules to protect them have actually worked. There is a bad injury here and there, but it seems for the most part that most of them stay healthy.

I'm more worried about other positions. I don't know how a RB holds up over an 18 game season. Or a 300+ pound lineman. The 18-game season is a really bad idea and it's another case of the NFL not understanding that they essentially have perfection right now.

The only scenario I have that would make me want to see this is if we contracted 2-4 teams and thus had less dilution of talent.

M GO BLUE!!! · 09-29-2010, 03:28 PM

The Saints released Adrian Arrington to make room for a kicker. They are very deep at WR, so it makes sense... Arrington looked really good before getting hurt last year. Minnesota needs to bring him in for a look NOW.

Honolulu_Blue · 09-29-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by M GO BLUE!!!

The Saints released Adrian Arrington to make room for a kicker. They are very deep at WR, so it makes sense... Arrington looked really good before getting hurt last year. Minnesota needs to bring him in for a look NOW.

I was wondering where Adrian Arrington was at. Last I heard he was with the Cardinals, I think. I thought he was out of the league. I always thought he was a pretty good receiver.

MikeVic · 09-29-2010, 03:56 PM

In other Jacksonville news...

Kassim Osgood of Jacksonville Jaguars jumps out window to avoid attack - ESPN

Crazy story. He jumps out the window while his girlfriend and her ex-boyfriend are shooting at each other. Geez.

miami_fan · 09-29-2010, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

Does anyone remember Dez Bryant causing a ruckus because he wouldn't participate in the rookie tradition at the beginning of camp? Williams had to get him back somehow, Bryant deserves it.

And molson is right. These guys live in a different world. I'm guessing a recognizable Dallas Cowboy gets a ton of free shit in Dallas. You can't compare them with us normal people.

But we compare them with us normal people all the time. Since when do they live in a different world?

Vince, Pt. II · 09-29-2010, 06:59 PM

Quote from Brent Jones about the Niner game last Sunday: "It was embarrassing, with an M."

(Singletary had a noteworthy and quotable press conference a while back where he said his team was going to by "physical, with an F.")

Lathum · 09-29-2010, 11:53 PM

Giants -4 against the Bears, talk about a lack of respect.

Mustang · 09-29-2010, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

talk about a lack of respect.

What do you think it should be, Giants -7 1/2?

k0ruptr · 09-30-2010, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

Giants -4 against the Bears, talk about a lack of respect.

wow. The G-Men have looked pretty awful too.

Bigsmooth · 09-30-2010, 12:23 AM

Monday night winner (in a huge Division game) going on the road I guess. Still, if the Giants can't run the ball or block Peppers better then the Packers did, they are fucked. I really don't think Eli will be as patient as Rodgers was while picking apart that Cover 2. I also doubt the Giants will commit 18 penalties, so....who the crap knows.

BishopMVP · 09-30-2010, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVic

In other Jacksonville news...

Kassim Osgood of Jacksonville Jaguars jumps out window to avoid attack - ESPN

Crazy story. He jumps out the window while his girlfriend and her ex-boyfriend are shooting at each other. Geez.

And they say chivalry is dead...

Thomkal · 09-30-2010, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MacroGuru

All Max ever knew how to do was win...UNLESS it was a big game...LOL. I think he will do just fine as the QB.

Oh great that gives me lots of confidence in him now, LOL Thanks a lot Macro

Scoobz0202 · 10-01-2010, 01:50 PM

Bill Simmon's piece on Michael Vick

Bill Simmons: Michael Vick's redemption - ESPN

JediKooter · 10-01-2010, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BishopMVP

And they say chivalry is dead...

Hey, he's not a Special Teams Pro Bowler for nothing.

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 10-01-2010, 01:59 PM

from the bgn skins blog:

jbergey22 · 10-01-2010, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NorvTurnerOverdrive

yeah, the 'people want more football!' argument stinks. you could stretch the current season by adding another bye week. you could jockey games around and add more thurs games. etc.etc.

this isn't about 'the people' it's about revenue.

after the marlins thing my faith in sports ownership is at an all time low.

The argument may stink to you but there are people like me that will take all the extra football games they can get. Its the one sport I cant get enough of.

If people are willing to pay for it why wouldnt they try to bring in the extra revenue?

NorvTurnerOverdrive · 10-01-2010, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

The argument may stink to you but there are people like me that will take all the extra football games they can get. Its the one sport I cant get enough of.

If people are willing to pay for it why wouldnt they try to bring in the extra revenue?

well, let's socratically equate this shit.

the fundamental question: is this good for football? is this good for the core product that you enjoy so much?

molson · 10-01-2010, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

The argument may stink to you but there are people like me that will take all the extra football games they can get. Its the one sport I cant get enough of.

If people are willing to pay for it why wouldnt they try to bring in the extra revenue?

There's no way you watch all the football available to you now. No human could.

And an 18-game schedule seriously risks making the games that you do watch much worse (more injured players not participating, more meaingless games, every game would be necessarily somewhat less important).

k0ruptr · 10-01-2010, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoobz0202

Bill Simmon's piece on Michael Vick

Bill Simmons: Michael Vick's redemption - ESPN

Was just going to post this, and this sums up exactly how I feel about Vick since the whole thing, Great piece imo.

EagleFan · 10-01-2010, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by k0ruptr

Was just going to post this, and this sums up exactly how I feel about Vick since the whole thing, Great piece imo.

I am very torn about the Vick thing. He is an exciting runner but I am still not sold on him as a QB. He has made several horrible decisions and throws that were luckily not picked off as they should have been. If the defenders hang on to those passes the talk would all be about how the Eagles should have kept McNabb. McNabb would get ripped apart for his bad throws because they would hit the ground, I would take bad throws being grounded over bad throws into the arms of defenders any day. One leads to an incomplete pass and you move to the next play, the other leads to the drive over and the other team with the ball.

I also think that Kolb is getting a very raw deal. He is getting ripped apart for the first half of game one but I blame very little of that on him. The gameplan for that half was awful. There is no way that he coul even get anything close to the flow of the game going when he kept being taken out for Vick every other play.

With that said, the way the offensive line looks I think they have a better chance of not carrying their QB out in a body bag with Vick in there.

DaddyTorgo · 10-01-2010, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoobz0202

Bill Simmon's piece on Michael Vick

Bill Simmons: Michael Vick's redemption - ESPN

Thus ends any reading I used to do of Simmons.

molson · 10-02-2010, 03:28 PM

This is my 2nd consecutive TMZ post, but I think it's worth it:

Gisele's Face Time ... Kissing With Another Man | TMZ.com

I love 'ya Tom, but karma is a bitch sometimes.

I wonder if this will move the line at all

Passacaglia · 10-02-2010, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Thus ends any reading I used to do of Simmons.

Didn't the reading you used to do end a long time ago, when you stopped doing it?

Lathum · 10-03-2010, 09:42 AM

Just watched the Mora Jr- Vick interview on NFL Network and all I was hoping the whole time was for the room to have a gas leak and explode.

Dr. Sak · 10-03-2010, 09:49 AM

Part of me would be happy if McNabb beat the Eagles.

kingfc22 · 10-03-2010, 12:14 PM

Burning a timeout on the third play of the game...looks like same ol' same ol' for the niners.

Vince, Pt. II · 10-03-2010, 12:34 PM

Holy fucking shit, that was awesome.

Greyroofoo · 10-03-2010, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22

Burning a timeout on the third play of the game...looks like same ol' same ol' for the niners.

A blocked punt for a TD ain't bad though. That catch in the endzone would make most receivers envious.

tucker rocky · 10-03-2010, 12:52 PM

Titans DC just showed the #1 sign towards the officials, caught by TV cameras.
I see a fine forthcoming.

Vince, Pt. II · 10-03-2010, 01:21 PM

Damn it Alex.

M GO BLUE!!! · 10-03-2010, 01:35 PM

I like that during the halftime highlights, Terry Bradshaw called Vince Young "Vince Evans."

I thought Evans was still on the Raiders!

SackAttack · 10-03-2010, 01:36 PM

How to ensure I won't watch PHI/WAS. Tell me *before* the game that Joe Buck is calling that game.

donotwant.jpg

Scoobz0202 · 10-03-2010, 01:39 PM

Pretty nice that all games are at halftime and there isn't a single blowout. These are the times I wish I had Sunday Ticket.

stevew · 10-03-2010, 01:39 PM

At some point Willis Maghee needs to reconsider going out there vs the Steelers. He just got crushed(again)

Abe Sargent · 10-03-2010, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoobz0202

Pretty nice that all games are at halftime and there isn't a single blowout. These are the times I wish I had Sunday Ticket.

yeah, even the Lions are keeping it close

Abe Sargent · 10-03-2010, 01:43 PM

Well, nevermind

Scoobz0202 · 10-03-2010, 01:45 PM

stevew · 10-03-2010, 02:09 PM

Idiot kicker is killing us today. Sigh. They have been lucky vs the Ravens and are still losers.

kingfc22 · 10-03-2010, 02:09 PM

The Bengals suck.

Suburban Rhythm · 10-03-2010, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by stevew

Idiot kicker is killing us today. Sigh. They have been lucky vs the Ravens and are still losers.

I still have hope we'll pull this out. Ike caught the ball...this is a sign good things are happening today

stevew · 10-03-2010, 02:44 PM

Gay ftw.

Suburban Rhythm · 10-03-2010, 02:45 PM

Dola William gay just made more plays in one series, 2, then he did in a full season last year

kingfc22 · 10-03-2010, 02:49 PM

Clements. Just fall down you turd!

Pumpy Tudors · 10-03-2010, 02:50 PM

Josh McDaniels tries to be too cute for his own good. You're down 4 points, you're in the red zone, and you call a running play out of the shotgun on 3rd and 1? Get in the shotgun and throw or get into a power formation and run the ball. Hell, if you're gonna go shotgun, at least put Tebow in. I'm going to light myself on fire.

stevew · 10-03-2010, 02:54 PM

Fucking TJ Doush. Sigh.

DeToxRox · 10-03-2010, 02:56 PM

What the hell happened in the SF/ATL game? Clements had a pick and fumble?

GrantDawg · 10-03-2010, 02:56 PM

The Falcons are trying to kill me. I'm about to press charges.

Big Fo · 10-03-2010, 02:57 PM

Well played Ravens, hold on now.

Dutch · 10-03-2010, 02:57 PM

Haha, Charlie Batch For The Baltimore Win!!!

Big Fo · 10-03-2010, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DeToxRox

What the hell happened in the SF/ATL game? Clements had a pick and fumble?

Awful throw by Ryan, Clements picked it off, returned it about 30 yards before Roddy White knocked the ball out of his hands from behind.

09-30-2010, 12:23 AM	#60
Bigsmooth College Prospect Join Date: Dec 2006	Monday night winner (in a huge Division game) going on the road I guess. Still, if the Giants can't run the ball or block Peppers better then the Packers did, they are fucked. I really don't think Eli will be as patient as Rodgers was while picking apart that Cover 2. I also doubt the Giants will commit 18 penalties, so....who the crap knows. Last edited by Bigsmooth : 09-30-2010 at 12:24 AM.

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kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Burning a timeout on the third play of the game...looks like same ol' same ol' for the niners. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

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Abe Sargent Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Catonsville, MD	Well, nevermind __________________ Check out my two current weekly Magic columns! https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/?action=search&page=1&author[]=Abe%20Sargent

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Scoobz0202 Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio	Lol

10-03-2010, 02:09 PM	#89
kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	The Bengals suck. __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

09-29-2010, 03:28 PM	#52
M GO BLUE!!! Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005	The Saints released Adrian Arrington to make room for a kicker. They are very deep at WR, so it makes sense... Arrington looked really good before getting hurt last year. Minnesota needs to bring him in for a look NOW.

09-29-2010, 03:56 PM	#54
MikeVic Head Coach Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hometown of Canada	In other Jacksonville news... Kassim Osgood of Jacksonville Jaguars jumps out window to avoid attack - ESPN Crazy story. He jumps out the window while his girlfriend and her ex-boyfriend are shooting at each other. Geez.

09-29-2010, 06:59 PM	#56
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	Quote from Brent Jones about the Niner game last Sunday: "It was embarrassing, with an M." (Singletary had a noteworthy and quotable press conference a while back where he said his team was going to by "physical, with an F.")

09-29-2010, 11:53 PM	#57
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Giants -4 against the Bears, talk about a lack of respect.

10-01-2010, 01:50 PM	#63
Scoobz0202 Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio	Bill Simmon's piece on Michael Vick Bill Simmons: Michael Vick's redemption - ESPN

10-01-2010, 01:59 PM	#65
NorvTurnerOverdrive College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jan 2008	from the bgn skins blog:

10-02-2010, 03:28 PM	#72
molson General Manager Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Mountains	This is my 2nd consecutive TMZ post, but I think it's worth it: Gisele's Face Time ... Kissing With Another Man \| TMZ.com I love 'ya Tom, but karma is a bitch sometimes. I wonder if this will move the line at all

10-03-2010, 09:42 AM	#74
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Just watched the Mora Jr- Vick interview on NFL Network and all I was hoping the whole time was for the room to have a gas leak and explode.

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Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Part of me would be happy if McNabb beat the Eagles.

10-03-2010, 12:34 PM	#77
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	Holy fucking shit, that was awesome.

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tucker rocky Pro Rookie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Of no particular interest	Titans DC just showed the #1 sign towards the officials, caught by TV cameras. I see a fine forthcoming.

10-03-2010, 01:21 PM	#80
Vince, Pt. II Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Somewhere More Familiar	Damn it Alex.

10-03-2010, 01:35 PM	#81
M GO BLUE!!! Pro Starter Join Date: Sep 2005	I like that during the halftime highlights, Terry Bradshaw called Vince Young "Vince Evans." I thought Evans was still on the Raiders!

10-03-2010, 01:36 PM	#82
SackAttack Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI	How to ensure I won't watch PHI/WAS. Tell me before the game that Joe Buck is calling that game. donotwant.jpg

10-03-2010, 01:39 PM	#83
Scoobz0202 Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio	Pretty nice that all games are at halftime and there isn't a single blowout. These are the times I wish I had Sunday Ticket.

10-03-2010, 01:39 PM	#84
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	At some point Willis Maghee needs to reconsider going out there vs the Steelers. He just got crushed(again)

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stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Gay ftw.

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Suburban Rhythm Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pittsburgh	Dola William gay just made more plays in one series, 2, then he did in a full season last year __________________ "Do you guys play fast tempos with odd time signatures?" "Yeah" "Cool!!"

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kingfc22 Head Coach Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Morgan Hill, CA	Clements. Just fall down you turd! __________________ Fan of SF Giants, 49ers, Sharks, Arsenal

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Pumpy Tudors Bounty Hunter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pittsburgh, PA	Josh McDaniels tries to be too cute for his own good. You're down 4 points, you're in the red zone, and you call a running play out of the shotgun on 3rd and 1? Get in the shotgun and throw or get into a power formation and run the ball. Hell, if you're gonna go shotgun, at least put Tebow in. I'm going to light myself on fire. __________________ No, I am not Batman, and I will not repair your food processor.

10-03-2010, 02:54 PM	#95
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Fucking TJ Doush. Sigh.

10-03-2010, 02:56 PM	#96
DeToxRox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Michigan	What the hell happened in the SF/ATL game? Clements had a pick and fumble?

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GrantDawg World Champion Mis-speller Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Covington, Ga.	The Falcons are trying to kill me. I'm about to press charges.

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Big Fo Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2005	Well played Ravens, hold on now.

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Dutch "Dutch" Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Tampa, FL	Haha, Charlie Batch For The Baltimore Win!!!

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