Paging all possible ZFL Expansion Teams! - Page 2

JeeberD · 06-01-2003, 03:04 PM

DOH!!!

Oh well. Back to rooting for Milwaukee and their sorry-ass corner...

illinifan999 · 06-01-2003, 03:08 PM

The Afoci you have a PM.

The Afoci · 06-01-2003, 04:42 PM

I feel the problem with expansion right now is that new players are just introduced. I feel that until the league is much bigger, and expansion draft within will rob current squads too much or not provide new squads nearly enough. Perhaps a Expansion pool of players could be made. It could give expansion squads a choice between talented old players (too old for nfl) and less talented young players (Not good enough for nfl, slipped thru ZFL cracks so far). Just my idea.

JAG · 06-01-2003, 09:38 PM

For what it's worth (which admittedly isn't much), I've never been a fan of expansion teams getting number 1 or 2 overall picks. I feel such an amazingly high premium pick should go to the team that 'earned' it during the season. That's the thing you look forward to when you have such a terrible team, the one thing that lets you wake up in the morning (so to speak) and say, "I have hope." Teams coming in should be happy enough to be in the league, which will get them through the misery of being pounded into the ground by established teams.

Anyway, good luck to the current ZFL teams and I'll hope for expansion sometime in the future. Even though I wasn't close to being voted for for expansion, I appreciate being able to put in a bid. Is there anything I might be able to do to help out or provide value in some way for the league? Just curious. Thanks.

korme · 06-01-2003, 10:11 PM

Thanks for the voties. To start it off it looked like there were no fans of the Cincinnati franchise, but the rally votes came in at the end. Too bad expansion is not what you guys would like to see.

I love challenges, and hell, woulda been in favor of picking last in the draft had that swayed people's opinions of expansion.. too bad.

Thanks guys.. I'll still keep reading.

sachmo71 · 06-01-2003, 10:20 PM

Rev, would you mind stating your case? Why you are disappointed, and apparently don't see a downside to expansion? If you think those that voted no made a mistake, maybe we could discuss why. Or, we can just let it rest.

Swaggs · 06-01-2003, 10:55 PM

Just back from vacation and just for the record.

Little Rock votes "No."

and for the following potential owners:
Shorty
John Galt
Jeeber D

tucker342 · 06-01-2003, 11:06 PM

What do you need Fargo???

tucker342 · 06-01-2003, 11:06 PM

PM me about your needs...

Craptacular · 06-01-2003, 11:26 PM

Good thing I didn't submit a bid... then again, I think I would have been last anyway.

revrew · 06-02-2003, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sachmo71
Rev, would you mind stating your case? Why you are disappointed, and apparently don't see a downside to expansion? If you think those that voted no made a mistake, maybe we could discuss why. Or, we can just let it rest.

First off, I think it best to just let it rest. Especially with Swaggs' vote in as a no, it's clear we just weren't ready for it yet. At this point, rather than bogging down in the why, etc., (after all, didn't I kind of violate my own rules by even making the above statement? whoops.:o ) let's just go on to season 3, and get the momentum back in swing.

The discussion did provide some valuable thoughts on how we might go about expanding after season 3. I've got some ideas from the discussion on some compromised solutions to "who drafts where," etc.

Whilst the draft is going on, I will fine-tune a proposal on how to bring Cincinatti and El Paso into the league. Until then, Fargo, may you settle on a pick, or take some desperate sap to the cleaners!

I will post the draft thread shortly, possibly even later today.

The Afoci · 06-02-2003, 08:43 AM

TO RECIEVE THE FIRST PICK THIS YEAR, YOU MUST:

1. Be willing to seperate with some young talent (under 26 and C or better min.)

2. Be willing to at least throw in your first round pick, and if it is later in the round, either more young talent or your third pick.

But I will listen to all offers on anyone. Really the only position I don't need is running back. Everything else is pretty much crap as you could tell by my 0-9 record!

illinifan999 · 06-02-2003, 10:19 AM

Well The Afoci, I sent you an offer. I think it's a pretty good one. In fact a damn good one. But that's in my eyes. So PM me back if decline.

revrew · 06-02-2003, 10:58 AM

You may want to check out the draft projections on the draft thread that's about to go up for some thoughts on trades, and some thoughts on who will be drafted where. Of course, this year was MUCH harder to project than last year.

JeeberD · 06-02-2003, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by revrew
Whilst the draft is going on, I will fine-tune a proposal on how to bring Cincinatti and El Paso into the league. Until then, Fargo, may you settle on a pick, or take some desperate sap to the cleaners!

So El Paso and Cincinatti are going to be the two new teams in the league when expansion does occur? There won't be another round of voting?

If so, thanks to all of you for voting for me (except for Sachmo, stuck up bastard that he is

). I won't let you down as an active owner once the franchise gets up and running...

sachmo71 · 06-02-2003, 03:01 PM

You are really asking for that sock in the nose, Jeeber!

JeeberD · 06-03-2003, 01:41 AM

You know I love ya, big guy...

revrew · 06-03-2003, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JeeberD
So El Paso and Cincinatti are going to be the two new teams in the league when expansion does occur? There won't be another round of voting?

I don't see any reason to go through the hassle of voting again. Season 3 will conclude in a couple of weeks, and what's going to change between now and then? Jeeber and Shorty aren't going to go away, and they both seem willing to hop into the fray no matter how much current owners want to screw them, so...

(even though I thought bertograce deserved it for his creativity and humor in writing up Denver...whoops, there I go violating my own rule again:o

)

I'm planning on introducing a plan sometime during season 3 to bring in Cincinatti and El Paso.

bertogarce · 06-04-2003, 12:03 PM

I appreciate all those owners who cast their votes for Ron Elway and the Colorado franchise. I look forward to following season 3 of the league and wish all owners the best of luck.

Ben E Lou · 07-06-2003, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by revrew
a megalomaniacal SkyDog of the ZFL

Megalomaniacal??? Et tu, revrew?

revrew · 07-07-2003, 09:33 AM

Aw, I didn't mean it, dog. I was just playin' off the common misperception and occasional resentment of the well-yielded authority you hold around here.

Ben E Lou · 07-07-2003, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by revrew
Aw, I didn't mean it, dog. I was just playin' off the common misperception and occasional resentment of the well-yielded authority you hold around here.

No biggie at all. Just pickin' at ya.

Swaggs · 07-07-2003, 10:16 AM

Skydog was obviously so offended that it took him a month to respondl

JeeberD · 11-09-2004, 05:37 PM

Bumped for JAG's perusal...

Coffee Warlord · 11-09-2004, 06:31 PM

I voted for John Galt?

What on earth was I smoking?

06-01-2003, 03:08 PM	#52
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	The Afoci you have a PM. __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

06-01-2003, 04:42 PM	#53
The Afoci Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Moorhead	I feel the problem with expansion right now is that new players are just introduced. I feel that until the league is much bigger, and expansion draft within will rob current squads too much or not provide new squads nearly enough. Perhaps a Expansion pool of players could be made. It could give expansion squads a choice between talented old players (too old for nfl) and less talented young players (Not good enough for nfl, slipped thru ZFL cracks so far). Just my idea. __________________ I had something.

06-01-2003, 10:11 PM	#55
korme Go Reds Join Date: May 2001 Location: Bloodbuzz Ohio	Thanks for the voties. To start it off it looked like there were no fans of the Cincinnati franchise, but the rally votes came in at the end. Too bad expansion is not what you guys would like to see. I love challenges, and hell, woulda been in favor of picking last in the draft had that swayed people's opinions of expansion.. too bad. Thanks guys.. I'll still keep reading. Last edited by korme : 06-01-2003 at 10:14 PM.

06-01-2003, 10:20 PM	#56
sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	Rev, would you mind stating your case? Why you are disappointed, and apparently don't see a downside to expansion? If you think those that voted no made a mistake, maybe we could discuss why. Or, we can just let it rest. Last edited by sachmo71 : 06-01-2003 at 10:22 PM.

06-01-2003, 10:55 PM	#57
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Just back from vacation and just for the record. Little Rock votes "No." and for the following potential owners: Shorty John Galt Jeeber D __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

06-01-2003, 09:38 PM	#54
JAG Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: St. Paul, MN	For what it's worth (which admittedly isn't much), I've never been a fan of expansion teams getting number 1 or 2 overall picks. I feel such an amazingly high premium pick should go to the team that 'earned' it during the season. That's the thing you look forward to when you have such a terrible team, the one thing that lets you wake up in the morning (so to speak) and say, "I have hope." Teams coming in should be happy enough to be in the league, which will get them through the misery of being pounded into the ground by established teams. Anyway, good luck to the current ZFL teams and I'll hope for expansion sometime in the future. Even though I wasn't close to being voted for for expansion, I appreciate being able to put in a bid. Is there anything I might be able to do to help out or provide value in some way for the league? Just curious. Thanks.

06-01-2003, 11:06 PM	#58
tucker342 Pro Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Iowa City, IA	What do you need Fargo???

06-01-2003, 11:26 PM	#60
Craptacular College Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Mad City, WI	Good thing I didn't submit a bid... then again, I think I would have been last anyway.

06-02-2003, 08:43 AM	#62
The Afoci Pro Rookie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Moorhead	TO RECIEVE THE FIRST PICK THIS YEAR, YOU MUST: 1. Be willing to seperate with some young talent (under 26 and C or better min.) 2. Be willing to at least throw in your first round pick, and if it is later in the round, either more young talent or your third pick. But I will listen to all offers on anyone. Really the only position I don't need is running back. Everything else is pretty much crap as you could tell by my 0-9 record! __________________ I had something.

06-02-2003, 10:19 AM	#63
illinifan999 Pro Rookie Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: VA	Well The Afoci, I sent you an offer. I think it's a pretty good one. In fact a damn good one. But that's in my eyes. So PM me back if decline. __________________ Chicago Eagles 2 time ZFL champions We're "rebuilding"

06-02-2003, 10:58 AM	#64
revrew Team Chaplain Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Just outside Des Moines, IA	You may want to check out the draft projections on the draft thread that's about to go up for some thoughts on trades, and some thoughts on who will be drafted where. Of course, this year was MUCH harder to project than last year. __________________ Winner of 6 FOFC Scribe Awards, including 3 Gold Scribes Founder of the ZFL, 2004 Golden Scribe Dynasty of the Year Now bringing The Des Moines Dragons back to life, and the joke's on YOU, NFL! I came to the Crossroad. I took it. And that has made all the difference.

06-02-2003, 03:01 PM	#66
sachmo71 The boy who cried Trout Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: TX	You are really asking for that sock in the nose, Jeeber!

06-03-2003, 01:41 AM	#67
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	You know I love ya, big guy... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

06-04-2003, 12:03 PM	#69
bertogarce Mascot Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Boulder	I appreciate all those owners who cast their votes for Ron Elway and the Colorado franchise. I look forward to following season 3 of the league and wish all owners the best of luck.

07-07-2003, 09:33 AM	#71
revrew Team Chaplain Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Just outside Des Moines, IA	Aw, I didn't mean it, dog. I was just playin' off the common misperception and occasional resentment of the well-yielded authority you hold around here. __________________ Winner of 6 FOFC Scribe Awards, including 3 Gold Scribes Founder of the ZFL, 2004 Golden Scribe Dynasty of the Year Now bringing The Des Moines Dragons back to life, and the joke's on YOU, NFL! I came to the Crossroad. I took it. And that has made all the difference.

07-07-2003, 10:16 AM	#73
Swaggs Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000	Skydog was obviously so offended that it took him a month to respondl __________________ DOWN WITH HATTRICK!!! The RWBL Are you reading In The Bleachers?

11-09-2004, 05:37 PM	#74
JeeberD General Manager Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Town of Flower Mound	Bumped for JAG's perusal... __________________ UTEP Miners!!! I solemnly swear to never cheer for TO

11-09-2004, 06:31 PM	#75
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	I voted for John Galt? What on earth was I smoking?

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