WW IL - Do Werewolves Dream of Electric Sheep? Game Over, page 36 - Page 20

Telle · 07-19-2007, 01:32 PM

It's also possible that we sent the person who was scanned off to Mars...

st.cronin · 07-19-2007, 01:34 PM

You think bulletsponge was scanned?

Poli · 07-19-2007, 01:36 PM

Hadn't thought of that, Telle.

Path, in re: to the game, it was a couple of disks all together. I remember playing it in...'99 I believe.

Alan T · 07-19-2007, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Telle

It's also possible that we sent the person who was scanned off to Mars...

No, since we havent voted anyone off since the night scans, it means one of the following:

1) Only one blade runner is left alive and either Cronin or Telle are probably lying
2) Both Blade runners scanned the same person last night (But telle should have gotten 2 pms and not one)
3) Blade runners can only scan every other night on alternating turns
4) One of them scanned a wolf who is refusing to state he was scanned
5) Both cronin and Telle are lying and people don't get pms when scanned

LoneStarGirl · 07-19-2007, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Telle, I assume LSG is referring to the form of the pm, not the content.

Yes, he is correct. I have not lied in this game... Come to think of it, I dont think I ever lie in WW

LoneStarGirl · 07-19-2007, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

There's no reason to believe that the replicants didn't also get PMs. So what if it's the same form, it would be.

I have to admit I'm kind of disappointed with LSG's vote on Lathum, someone who is completely outside of the discussion we're having today. A complete throwaway vote.

How is it a throw away vote? Everybody is voting for AE, I am not... anything besides an AE vote should be considered throw away. I think voting for AE is very faulty and therefore voted for somebody who I hoped would get some attention from everybody else and be forced to talk instead of voting and running.

Telle · 07-19-2007, 01:40 PM

[quote=Alan T;1505876]No, since we havent voted anyone off since the night scans, it means one of the following:

There would have been scans on Night 1, and then we voted off Bullet on Day 2. I don't know if he was scanned.. but it is possible, and could explain why we're not seeing another person come forward.

Alan T · 07-19-2007, 01:44 PM

[quote=Telle;1505886]

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Originally Posted by Alan T

No, since we havent voted anyone off since the night scans, it means one of the following:

There would have been scans on Night 1, and then we voted off Bullet on Day 2. I don't know if he was scanned.. but it is possible, and could explain why we're not seeing another person come forward.

But that doesn't explain last night when theoretically two people should have been scanned unless one of the things I posted are true.

st.cronin · 07-19-2007, 01:46 PM

I believe we still haven't heard from Chief Rum or Lathum. Both of them would make sense as scan targets, in which case we would have 2 scans both nights.

Barkeep49 · 07-19-2007, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

How is it a throw away vote? Everybody is voting for AE, I am not... anything besides an AE vote should be considered throw away. I think voting for AE is very faulty and therefore voted for somebody who I hoped would get some attention from everybody else and be forced to talk instead of voting and running.

Why Lathum? I could understand votes against Swaggs, Telle, and cronin based on today and Render based on previous days but there's never been a solid lynch lathum movement and despite all this info you chose to cast your vote that way.

Telle · 07-19-2007, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

But that doesn't explain last night when theoretically two people should have been scanned unless one of the things I posted are true.

Not if you remember that in my theory KWhit/Holden attempted to kill AE last night after scanning him the first night. And I think it's reasonable to assume that a player can only take one action per night (kill or scan).

Barkeep49 · 07-19-2007, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

No, since we havent voted anyone off since the night scans, it means one of the following:

1) Only one blade runner is left alive and either Cronin or Telle are probably lying
2) Both Blade runners scanned the same person last night (But telle should have gotten 2 pms and not one)
3) Blade runners can only scan every other night on alternating turns
4) One of them scanned a wolf who is refusing to state he was scanned
5) Both cronin and Telle are lying and people don't get pms when scanned

Why couldn't someone have been scanned on night 1 (bullet) and sent to mars. And then someone was scanned last night who has not checked in yet or who is keeping that information to themselves, for whatever reason?

Barkeep49 · 07-19-2007, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Telle

Not if you remember that in my theory KWhit/Holden attempted to kill AE last night after scanning him the first night. And I think it's reasonable to assume that a player can only take one action per night (kill or scan).

We know that Kwhit isn't holden via cronin.

Telle · 07-19-2007, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

We know that Kwhit isn't holden via cronin.

Except that I think Cronin is a replicant!

Telle · 07-19-2007, 01:53 PM

Here's my theory, once more...
Day 1 - Kwhit performs the test on AE, and discovers he's a wolf.
Day 2 - Kwhit attempts to kill AE but misses because he's Holden and not that good. The wolves then kill Kwhit that night.
Day 3 - St. Cronin, AE's fellow replicant, comes out claiming he was scanned last night by Holden knowing full well that Holden is dead and can't dispute him

And go reread Swaggs' post #731 regarding the KWhit/AE connection.

Alan T · 07-19-2007, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Why couldn't someone have been scanned on night 1 (bullet) and sent to mars. And then someone was scanned last night who has not checked in yet or who is keeping that information to themselves, for whatever reason?

If this is the case, then the scenerios I outlined obviously arent true as its only if they don't report being scanned

LoneStarGirl · 07-19-2007, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Why Lathum? I could understand votes against Swaggs, Telle, and cronin based on today and Render based on previous days but there's never been a solid lynch lathum movement and despite all this info you chose to cast your vote that way.

Well I can change it and come back to him tomorrow... I just dont think that Cronin and Telle are wolves, and Render is not playing like he did last game at all, when he was a wolf...and I am having a hard time believing Swaggs is a wolf right now.

So why not try to get y'all to take the focus off of AE and put it on somebody I deem more wolfish?

Poli · 07-19-2007, 01:58 PM

Right, the I voted for him and he voted for me so clearly I'm the bad guy idea.

LoneStarGirl · 07-19-2007, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Telle

Except that I think Cronin is a replicant!

Why do you feel so strongly about this? I believe in the theory that one night Holden scans somebody and the next Deckard scans somebody. And since Holden is newer at this he can sometimes slip up and reveal himself. And since Cronin has a name who could verify he is telling the truth, I tend to believe him for now. I would hate for Cronin to let out who Holden was just to get you off his back.

LoneStarGirl · 07-19-2007, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Right, the I voted for him and he voted for me so clearly I'm the bad guy idea.

Who are you talking to or about?

LoneStarGirl · 07-19-2007, 02:02 PM

Lathum is here to clear his name, so I am ready to switch my vote if need be.

path12 · 07-19-2007, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T

No, since we havent voted anyone off since the night scans, it means one of the following:

1) Only one blade runner is left alive and either Cronin or Telle are probably lying
2) Both Blade runners scanned the same person last night (But telle should have gotten 2 pms and not one)
3) Blade runners can only scan every other night on alternating turns
4) One of them scanned a wolf who is refusing to state he was scanned
5) Both cronin and Telle are lying and people don't get pms when scanned

1, 3 and 4 look the most likely to me.

Poli · 07-19-2007, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

Who are you talking to or about?

Telle, with her "check out what swaggs said about the kwhit/ae". I didn't actually look, but I can only assume it was something like that.

Telle · 07-19-2007, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

Why do you feel so strongly about this? I believe in the theory that one night Holden scans somebody and the next Deckard scans somebody. And since Holden is newer at this he can sometimes slip up and reveal himself. And since Cronin has a name who could verify he is telling the truth, I tend to believe him for now. I would hate for Cronin to let out who Holden was just to get you off his back.

Because I was scanned last night, and what he said about being scanned doesn't match up with my experience. He said he found out both the player name and the character name.. my PM did not have the character name. Thus I believe he's fabricating the whole thing in order to become trusted ("I was scanned.. I'm human guys.. you can trust me!"). And then that theory lines up well with Swaggs' theory about KWhit and AE.. because if Holden got killed off last night then St. Chronin can claim anything he wants about Holden and not worry about it.

st.cronin · 07-19-2007, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Telle

Here's my theory, once more...
Day 1 - Kwhit performs the test on AE, and discovers he's a wolf.
Day 2 - Kwhit attempts to kill AE but misses because he's Holden and not that good. The wolves then kill Kwhit that night.
Day 3 - St. Cronin, AE's fellow replicant, comes out claiming he was scanned last night by Holden knowing full well that Holden is dead and can't dispute him

And go reread Swaggs' post #731 regarding the KWhit/AE connection.

The problem with this, is how would I know KWhit was Holden and not Deckard?

Telle · 07-19-2007, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

The problem with this, is how would I know KWhit was Holden and not Deckard?

Because, according to my theory, he tried to kill AE and missed. The rules state that Holden isn't "as handy with a pistol" or something along those lines.

Poli · 07-19-2007, 02:15 PM

I giggle a little and shake my head every time I see you talk about that theory, telle. I'm sorry, but it's a little humorous to me at this point. I know I'm as good as gone, I know you're wrong. I'm starting to come to terms with the first part, and enjoying the second.

Poli · 07-19-2007, 02:18 PM

FWIW, I've completely caught myself up on the rules and posts and I'm still clueless as to what's going on.

Lathum · 07-19-2007, 02:23 PM

I can clear this Telle- St. Cronin thing up in a minute

path12 · 07-19-2007, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I can clear this Telle- St. Cronin thing up in a minute

Do tell.

path12 · 07-19-2007, 02:40 PM

KWhit's in thread. Maybe he can tell us who killed him.

Lathum · 07-19-2007, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

I was not scanned, and have had no pms from tanglewood other than my initial role given pm. I do think that we can build a cot around Cronin and Telle because Cronin came right out and told his dream and Telle was just too damned excited to not be believed. So I am going to vote for somebody who has been way to under the radar for his usual self and vote

vote lathum

she's kidding, right?

vote for me if you want but under the radar? Where was SHE yesterday or this morning at 5:00 AM when I said I'de be gone most of the day.

LoneStarGirl · 07-19-2007, 02:42 PM

Lathum I got to go in 20 minutes so speed read :-P

LoneStarGirl · 07-19-2007, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

she's kidding, right?

vote for me if you want but under the radar? Where was SHE yesterday or this morning at 5:00 AM when I said I'de be gone most of the day.

I was sleeping at 5 this morning

Poli · 07-19-2007, 02:44 PM

I remember lathum. I saw it.

KWhit · 07-19-2007, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

KWhit's in thread. Maybe he can tell us who killed him.

Sure thing.

Jonathan Ezarik · 07-19-2007, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telle

Here's my theory, once more...
Day 1 - Kwhit performs the test on AE, and discovers he's a wolf.
Day 2 - Kwhit attempts to kill AE but misses because he's Holden and not that good. The wolves then kill Kwhit that night.
Day 3 - St. Cronin, AE's fellow replicant, comes out claiming he was scanned last night by Holden knowing full well that Holden is dead and can't dispute him

And go reread Swaggs' post #731 regarding the KWhit/AE connection.

You are putting way too much faith in Swaggs. Remeber, there's a pretty good chance that he's a replicant.

Lathum · 07-19-2007, 02:53 PM

OK, sorry for the delay. I was catching up and eating.

I was scanned last night and learned the player who scanned me AND that the player was Holden as well.

Telle is lying unless it's possible for both Deckard and Holden to scan people and Deckard not to be found out.

I think it more likely she was either scanned last night by Deckard and not killed or Deckard attempted a kill on her.

2 scans a night seems high but considering the no role reveal there needs to be a balance somewhere and that may be it, as well as learning the scanners identity since that would make it easier to build a COT, even though it would have to be private.

I agree AE needs to go and probably swaggs but right now Telle should go first since she is lying and then we breach the AE/ Swaggs subject.

VOTE TELLE

Telle · 07-19-2007, 02:54 PM

What the hell??

Lathum · 07-19-2007, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

I'll probably be gone most of the day. If for some reason I am dead I saw something in Alan's later posts that lead me to believe he is good. FWIW.

for LSG.

and if you think I was under the radar yesterday I got nothing.

Telle · 07-19-2007, 02:55 PM

If Tangle just f'd up my PM and forgot to include the character name and this all stemmed from that then I'm going to be REALLY pissed off.

Poli · 07-19-2007, 02:55 PM

I'm willing to rally behind that if others will.

LoneStarGirl · 07-19-2007, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

OK, sorry for the delay. I was catching up and eating.

I was scanned last night and learned the player who scanned me AND that the player was Holden as well.

Telle is lying unless it's possible for both Deckard and Holden to scan people and Deckard not to be found out.

I think it more likely she was either scanned last night by Deckard and not killed or Deckard attempted a kill on her.

2 scans a night seems high but considering the no role reveal there needs to be a balance somewhere and that may be it, as well as learning the scanners identity since that would make it easier to build a COT, even though it would have to be private.

I agree AE needs to go and probably swaggs but right now Telle should go first since she is lying and then we breach the AE/ Swaggs subject.

VOTE TELLE

I really dont think Telle is lying. She was just way to giddy about it this morning. I would rather believe that Holden scanned you and cronin and deckard scanned her.... But maybe you and Cronin are teammates and dreamt this up in order for us to believe 2 vs 1

Telle · 07-19-2007, 02:56 PM

Do you really think I'm that stupid? I've been calling all day for anyone else who has been scanned to come out and tell us about it.

LoneStarGirl · 07-19-2007, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

for LSG.

and if you think I was under the radar yesterday I got nothing.

For lathum you were under the radar... for lsg, ntn, and JE, you weren't... sorry bud

LoneStarGirl · 07-19-2007, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Telle

If Tangle just f'd up my PM and forgot to include the character name and this all stemmed from that then I'm going to be REALLY pissed off.

Everytime something has gone awry y'all blame Tanglewood... Lets give him some credit now, I think he knows what he is doing.

LoneStarGirl · 07-19-2007, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

I'm willing to rally behind that if others will.

Of course you will, you are trying to save your own ass.... I would rally behind it too

Lathum · 07-19-2007, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

For lathum you were under the radar... for lsg, ntn, and JE, you weren't... sorry bud

I am in awe you think that. Someone back me up here...

Telle · 07-19-2007, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

Everytime something has gone awry y'all blame Tanglewood... Lets give him some credit now, I think he knows what he is doing.

Well there could be some "master plan" reason as to why I wouldn't be told the character name when the others were.. but I dunno what it would be.

LoneStarGirl · 07-19-2007, 03:00 PM

Okay, I have to go... class got moved back from 3:30-5:30.
I won't be changing my vote, if class gets out early I might come back online and see what has happened but I probably won't be back on until after the game, 10 central

07-19-2007, 01:34 PM	#952
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	You think bulletsponge was scanned? __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-19-2007, 01:36 PM	#953
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Hadn't thought of that, Telle. Path, in re: to the game, it was a couple of disks all together. I remember playing it in...'99 I believe. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-19-2007, 01:46 PM	#959
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I believe we still haven't heard from Chief Rum or Lathum. Both of them would make sense as scan targets, in which case we would have 2 scans both nights. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-19-2007, 01:58 PM	#968
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Right, the I voted for him and he voted for me so clearly I'm the bad guy idea. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-19-2007, 02:15 PM	#977
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I giggle a little and shake my head every time I see you talk about that theory, telle. I'm sorry, but it's a little humorous to me at this point. I know I'm as good as gone, I know you're wrong. I'm starting to come to terms with the first part, and enjoying the second. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-19-2007, 01:32 PM	#951
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	It's also possible that we sent the person who was scanned off to Mars...

07-19-2007, 01:40 PM	#957
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	[quote=Alan T;1505876]No, since we havent voted anyone off since the night scans, it means one of the following: There would have been scans on Night 1, and then we voted off Bullet on Day 2. I don't know if he was scanned.. but it is possible, and could explain why we're not seeing another person come forward.

07-19-2007, 01:53 PM	#965
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	Here's my theory, once more... Day 1 - Kwhit performs the test on AE, and discovers he's a wolf. Day 2 - Kwhit attempts to kill AE but misses because he's Holden and not that good. The wolves then kill Kwhit that night. Day 3 - St. Cronin, AE's fellow replicant, comes out claiming he was scanned last night by Holden knowing full well that Holden is dead and can't dispute him And go reread Swaggs' post #731 regarding the KWhit/AE connection.

07-19-2007, 02:02 PM	#971
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	Lathum is here to clear his name, so I am ready to switch my vote if need be.

07-19-2007, 02:18 PM	#978
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	FWIW, I've completely caught myself up on the rules and posts and I'm still clueless as to what's going on. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-19-2007, 02:23 PM	#979
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I can clear this Telle- St. Cronin thing up in a minute

07-19-2007, 02:40 PM	#981
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	KWhit's in thread. Maybe he can tell us who killed him. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

07-19-2007, 02:42 PM	#983
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	Lathum I got to go in 20 minutes so speed read :-P

07-19-2007, 02:44 PM	#985
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I remember lathum. I saw it. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-19-2007, 02:53 PM	#988
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	OK, sorry for the delay. I was catching up and eating. I was scanned last night and learned the player who scanned me AND that the player was Holden as well. Telle is lying unless it's possible for both Deckard and Holden to scan people and Deckard not to be found out. I think it more likely she was either scanned last night by Deckard and not killed or Deckard attempted a kill on her. 2 scans a night seems high but considering the no role reveal there needs to be a balance somewhere and that may be it, as well as learning the scanners identity since that would make it easier to build a COT, even though it would have to be private. I agree AE needs to go and probably swaggs but right now Telle should go first since she is lying and then we breach the AE/ Swaggs subject. VOTE TELLE

07-19-2007, 02:54 PM	#989
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	What the hell??

07-19-2007, 02:55 PM	#991
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	If Tangle just f'd up my PM and forgot to include the character name and this all stemmed from that then I'm going to be REALLY pissed off.

07-19-2007, 02:55 PM	#992
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	I'm willing to rally behind that if others will. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-19-2007, 02:56 PM	#994
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	Do you really think I'm that stupid? I've been calling all day for anyone else who has been scanned to come out and tell us about it.

07-19-2007, 03:00 PM	#1000
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	Okay, I have to go... class got moved back from 3:30-5:30. I won't be changing my vote, if class gets out early I might come back online and see what has happened but I probably won't be back on until after the game, 10 central

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