05-29-2009, 12:17 PM | #951 | |
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Clearing Danny odesn't clear dubb's scans. Only clearing dubb clears dubb's scans.
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05-29-2009, 12:25 PM | #952 |
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Believe saldana as Brutal
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05-29-2009, 12:27 PM | #953 |
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I also see no reason not to scan Dubb.
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05-29-2009, 12:29 PM | #954 | |
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Yeah I know I've been pretty quiet this game. I was home sick yesterday so I wasn't in the thread much. And the mechanics of this game confuse me a bit so I've just been kinda hanging back. |
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05-29-2009, 12:31 PM | #955 |
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i think the rules changed regarding the believed brutal wolf at some point...BK, can you confirm...it didnt say i had to be lynched in order to get a random kill before...
that said, if what i can do to serve the village is become the brutal wolf and then get lynched to take a real wolf with me, so be it...i have always said that i consider myself part of the win if i make a serious contribution to the village, even if i dont survive to the end...i am ok with being a 1:1 but, since i dont actually WANT to die. i am the vengeful wolf. |
05-29-2009, 12:32 PM | #956 |
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believe saldana as the vengeful wolf
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05-29-2009, 12:39 PM | #957 |
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Disbelieve saldana as brutal wolf.
Believe saldana as vengeful wolf. I like this idea better. |
05-29-2009, 12:48 PM | #958 | |
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And to be honest neither do I. I think PB should scan me tonight that way we can put to rest all the doubt.
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05-29-2009, 12:50 PM | #959 |
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05-29-2009, 12:52 PM | #960 | ||
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I don't care who scans me, I am the duke and the believed seer. I will show up villager unless the false seer gets a bs result.
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05-29-2009, 01:00 PM | #961 | |
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The issue with vengeful is that the vengeful wolf will still be able to kill you.
Maybe we go maniac and give him shot at making a kill tonight or we go with an unknown? I guess we could just go duke if we really wanted to. I'm really confused about what role to believe Saldana for now that I re-read the brutal role discription.
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05-29-2009, 01:00 PM | #962 | |
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I think giving him the maniac role has the biggest chance to change the game for better or worse. We have to make something happen.
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05-29-2009, 01:03 PM | #963 | ||
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I think that might be the one.
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05-29-2009, 01:06 PM | #964 | |
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05-29-2009, 01:08 PM | #965 |
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lol...i am going to start getting drunk in about 3 hours so can someone just let me know what i am supposed to be
i am the tough wolf i am the maniac |
05-29-2009, 01:16 PM | #966 | |
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Believe Saldana as tough wolf
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05-29-2009, 01:20 PM | #967 | |
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I'm at work and some asshole is using up all the bandwith downloading movies off of some p2p tracker. It is taking around 2 minutes to load the page everytime I hit refresh or click anywhere. I will be offline until he leaves for the night or decides to pack up his laptop.
If it is any indication I typed this up and replied as soon as the page got done loading from my Saldana believe post.
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05-29-2009, 01:25 PM | #968 |
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I don't see how believing Saldana as the vengeful wolf helps the villlage at all unless he's an important villager role.
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05-29-2009, 01:30 PM | #969 |
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05-29-2009, 01:33 PM | #970 | |
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i think it is a question of do we want to keep me alive or use me as a weapon...we can always disbelieve me if we need to give the protection to someone else also, what other "important villager role" are you looking for? we already have the duke and the seer, and we dont want the bodyguard to come out. |
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05-29-2009, 01:37 PM | #971 | |
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Basically, the only one role would be seer (if both a fake and real one exist). |
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05-29-2009, 01:41 PM | #972 | |
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We cannot disbelieve a role. Once the role is believed, it's yours until you die or the actual player with the role dies. |
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05-29-2009, 01:48 PM | #973 |
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Vote tyrith
don't have a whole lot to go on but voting record and I think we need to get some votes out there. Plus he has been very quite today which is a change from the past few days. |
05-29-2009, 01:51 PM | #974 |
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Disbelieve Saldana as Brutal Wolf
Believe Saldana as Vengeful Wolf I have to say too that I like that idea better than sacrificing Saldana right away. |
05-29-2009, 01:56 PM | #975 | |
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I honestly have a plan and as crazy as it may sound I think it could work. I've been thinking about it and I think we save the can't be night killed roles for the other seer when he reveals.
I say we make tonight a bloody weekend. We believe Saldana as maniac, coordinate seer scans and give Saldana AND the real maniac BOTH a list of players to choose from that are uncleared to take a stab at tonight(pun intended). If nothing else it gives us for all purposes two extra seer scans tonight, the only down side is those two extra scans come with dead bodies, but regardless we would get a whole hell of a lot of information, especially with two maniac kills coming from confirmed villagers.
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05-29-2009, 01:58 PM | #976 |
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Seer has already been claimed (Dubb) and false seer cannot be claimed (by rule).
I agree that Tough Wolf and Maniac are the game changers. I'm thinking of splitting my believe votes between Saldana and Tyrith for these roles, since I trust PB just a bit more than Dubb at this point in the game and I'm not opposed to seeing what kind of movement may develop in a race between those two. For now, UNBELIEVE SALDANA AS BRUTAL WOLF BELIEVE SALDANA AS TOUGH WOLF BELIEVE TYRITH AS MANIAC |
05-29-2009, 01:58 PM | #977 |
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Hmm, bold. I sorta like it.
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05-29-2009, 02:02 PM | #978 |
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I'm willing to flip my choices for Saldana/Tyrith to get one of them believed.
Forgot to go blue earlier, so here is the re-post: UNBELIEVE SALDANA AS BRUTAL WOLF BELIEVE SALDANA AS TOUGH WOLF BELIEVE TYRITH AS MANIAC |
05-29-2009, 02:03 PM | #979 |
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Ok, all caught up. I'm not sure I like the switch to Tough Wolf instead of Brutal Wolf. Does the brutal wolf power only work when lynched or when a player is night killed?
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05-29-2009, 02:03 PM | #980 | |
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Disbelieve Saldana as Brutal wolf
Believe Saldana as maniac As an fyi Hoops you need to blue all that.
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05-29-2009, 02:04 PM | #981 |
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I am believing Saldana only as I trust Dubb's scans more than PB (50% chance)
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05-29-2009, 02:05 PM | #982 |
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I think my question is pretty important, does the brutal ability work if night killed?
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05-29-2009, 02:06 PM | #983 | |
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It only works on a lynch.. so we'd have to actively sacrifice saldana if we made him the brutal. This is why we're looking at other options. |
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05-29-2009, 02:06 PM | #984 |
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Ok
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05-29-2009, 02:22 PM | #985 |
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geez, so many choices, so few wolves to kill
unbeleive saldana as vengeful wolf beleive saldana as tough wolf |
05-29-2009, 02:24 PM | #986 |
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I am confused. What roles have people claimed today?
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05-29-2009, 02:25 PM | #987 |
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Mainly, has Saldana claimed any roles besides the brutal and vengeful wolf?
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05-29-2009, 02:26 PM | #988 | |
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I need to get a vote in since I am tired of fighting this stupid freakin internet that is having all of its bandwith hogged. I will most likely be back around again later but there is always a chance I may not be back since I am at work all night.
Vote Danny I am placing this vote due to his deadline crazyness he has pulled both days. I may change it if I get back on and the voting has shifted a different direction. I would also like to say once more I think electing Saldana as maniac is the way to go today. I think two seer scans and two maniac kills tonight will basically give us all the information we need to nail the wolves going forward. Best case scenerio we lynch a wolf today and hit two with the maniac kills. Worst case we have cleared 4 villagers, albeit two with dead bodies.
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05-29-2009, 02:26 PM | #989 |
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I think they decided to go with Saldana as the vengeful wolf or tough wolf.
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Yes, he also has claimed duke, maniac and tough wolf.
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05-29-2009, 02:27 PM | #991 | ||
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No, I really think maniac is the way to go here with Saldana. Read my prior posts on the subject.
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05-29-2009, 02:28 PM | #992 |
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Vengeful Wolf
Starting: If doing the nightly kill, will kill an unbelieved bodyguard, will be able to avoid a believed bodyguard's block, and be able to kill a Believed Vengeful Wolf. If Believed: The first time a player on the opposite team attempts to kill them, including by duking, that player will die instead. May still be lynched normally. Tough Wolf Starting: Normal wolf powers, except if performing the night attack the bodyguard will never learn if a block is successful. If Believed: The first time the Tough Wolf is lynched or killed the Tough Wolf will survive. If lynched or killed a second time, the Tough Wolf will die. I say we go with a tough wolf. According to this, if we believe Saldana as the vengeful wolf, the real vengeful wolf can still kill him. There doesn't look to be a way around the believed tough wolf for the wolves |
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Of course all of this assume a maniac is in the game, but I think that is another discussion I don't really have the time to discuss at the moment.
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05-29-2009, 02:29 PM | #994 | |
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I really don't want us to make another bad lynch. I am the maniac. And I am posting this with plenty of time for everyone to see and possibly counter reveal. |
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05-29-2009, 02:30 PM | #995 |
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05-29-2009, 02:31 PM | #996 | |
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I can only kill a believed player which means you or PB, I am not killing either at this point |
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05-29-2009, 02:33 PM | #997 |
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05-29-2009, 02:35 PM | #998 |
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Other than him stealing the ability that is rightfully mine , I am fine with it.
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05-29-2009, 02:35 PM | #999 | |
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Speaking on behalf of, well, myself, I would like to say that I appreciate this. |
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05-29-2009, 02:36 PM | #1000 |
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Now that it's out there, the reason I asked about Brutal Wolf working if night killed is I was planning on using my ability to night kill Saldana if he was the believed brutal wolf (sorry saldana)
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