WW XCIX: Seville High, Book Two: The Janitor Lives!!! Game Over - Blakekin Win!!!!

[lerriuqs]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

yes it does... except you only pick up roles from people in game, right?

the roll hat can only vote every other day isnt here... so how did you pick it up?

From page 1

Drug Abuser – Each even numbered night, has a 50% chance to gain a villager role until the end of the next even numbered chapter. So, for example, could randomly become a Sleuth for a chapter, or a Martyr, or a Diseased, etc. Does not work every night, and you will know who you become, if it works. This can give you a role not in the game.

[lerriuqs]

Ok I'm out. Probably not back on here till Sunday. I'm out of town and not sure how much access to this site I'll get.

[JetsIn06]

I'll be around for most of the time between now and the deadline, but for now:

VOTE THENORM

PB seems as trustworthy as anyone and his reasoning sounds pretty solid.

[TheNorm]

Okay everyone, so what's your plan after you find out I'm not a wolf? Schmidty next? The Jackal? We got lucky one day and all we've done is peg off innocents ever since. All voting for me does is to get the blakekins one step closer to victory.

Doesn't really matter what I say at this point since most of you are following Schmidty's ill reasoned and weak hard on for me. Since I won't be around the rest of the night let this be my 'I told you so' when you all find out just how wrong you are.

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by lerriuqs

From page 1

well all right! thanks

[ntndeacon]

thanks lerriuqs, I was about to answer, but now don't have to. As far as I know none of the roles I have so far gotten are in the game. They might be...well except Concientious objector. That seems to not be in the game. However we have no way of knowing whether either Paranoid or the other role I have gotten are neccesarily in the game. We might suspect that is the case, for one or the other. But that is all we know.

[EagleFan]

[claphamsa]

ur gonna be mass bored!

[claphamsa]

do we have a vote count?

[claphamsa]

hellooooooooo

[Abe Sargent]

hello

[Abe Sargent]

time check

[Abe Sargent]

That is time

[claphamsa]

unvote hoops
vote heinze!

[claphamsa]

oh shit. too late

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by claphamsa

unvote hoops
vote heinze!

i was talking to heinze earlier today, im pretty sure he's pulling the strings here

[claphamsa]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

i was talking to heinze earlier today, im pretty sure he's pulling the strings here

you admit you were PM ing with a wolf!


we got one boys!!!!!

[Abe Sargent]

Another day arrives, and you have been less than successful over the last few days. Today you decide to try Caitlyn O'Conner, the school newspaper writer and cause celebre.

She immediately fights you off, she's stronger than you would have thought. Still, it is only a matter of time. Half of you cover the exit, and she yells out "You guys are idiots, you know? Idiots!"

You corner her and tackle her as a group, and with great difficutly manage to throw her into the fire. Her screams follow you the entire way, until life leaves her.

You quickly dash to her locker and break in. You find some epilepsy medication, but nothing else.


Caitlyn O'Conner (TheNorm) was a High Schooler.


Chapter 9 has ended. Chapter 10 ends at 10 pm Sunday night.

If everyone with an action submits them and tells me to run it early, I will whenever everybody is together.

[claphamsa]

lame

[The Jackal]

Does that mean nfg is a wolf? I really still don't think a wolf would've voted Danny first. I mean we've seen wolves with first votes on other wolves day 1, but they usually are communicating it so they know not to act crazy and draw pressure - and Danny did the latter, so I'm thinking its very possible the wolves avoided Danny altogether. But that's just a read on the vote, I guess there's a chance.

Lots of things to think about over the weekend.

[JetsIn06]

Oh my.

This is not going well.

[nfg22]

HORRIBLE...I guess im the number one suspect. Also, Martin, what do you think of me since you didnt add me into your little list. Am I that UTR? I try to contribute, im just not very smart.

[Schmidty]

I blow. I'll take this debacle as my own. No more belief in hoops.

VOTE HOOPS

[The Jackal]

I doubt votes are going to count until after the night phase runs, Schmidty

[nfg22]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

I blow. I'll take this debacle as my own. No more belief in hoops.

VOTE HOOPS

I cant say I argue since I have voted hoops 3 times now.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

I doubt votes are going to count until after the night phase runs, Schmidty

I know. I do this every day.

I'll just copy and paste it if he's still alive!!!!

[Abe Sargent]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

I blow. I'll take this debacle as my own. No more belief in hoops.

VOTE HOOPS

You cannot vote yet.

[hoopsguy]

Sigh - Schmidty, I'm annoyed that you would pin this on me when I did not vote TheNorm, posted a trust list that said he was my 3rd candidate, and took time off from visiting my brother to come in and post that running off me vs. TheNorm was a logical fallacy.

The fact is that the group took a completely different tack than what I thought made sense. So be it - but don't blame this one on me. I tried to get us to vote The Jackal, argued that a second choice would be Clap, and even suggested that you run me off against one of them.

Fact is, the village got worked today. Which would be kind of amusing if I was the one pulling the strings. But it is damn frustrating when I'm not around to even try to argue my case for 90% of the day.

[The Jackal]

I just want to point out that though I've believed NTN's reveal is probably true, his gained roles have been awfully convenient. Paranoid when the seer is alive, conscentious objector so he doesn't have to place a vote today?

[Abe Sargent]

We haven't even hit 1000 posts yet. That does not feel like one of my games

[Schmidty]

Sorry hoops. I really am a sheep. I've looked at things and read people's analysis, and haven't really gone gut too much. Now I am. I think I'll stick with you for now. No offense of course. I just can't think of someone better right now, and my feelings say - HOOPSGUY.

[DaddyTorgo]

how'd you guys end up lynching your seer? *sighs*

[TheNorm]

Good luck, won't be coming around for awhile. Said it was a bad lynch.

[PurdueBrad]

Guys, sorry, I screwed this lynch up. I'm at a loss, so I am all for listening to each of your candidates.

[ntndeacon]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

I just want to point out that though I've believed NTN's reveal is probably true, his gained roles have been awfully convenient. Paranoid when the seer is alive, conscentious objector so he doesn't have to place a vote today?

Yea I wish they had been more convenient to me.

[MartinD]

Sorry, Norm - while there wasn't much in the way of solid evidence against you, I thought that the arguments towards you being a wolf were more plausible than the arguments for hoops.

Originally Posted by nfg22

Also, Martin, what do you think of me since you didnt add me into your little list. Am I that UTR? I try to contribute, im just not very smart.

There are some players I find that it's easy to get a read on, either because of their actions (votes (both placed and received), claimed roles, and so on), their status in the game (like PurdueBrad - our confirmed seer scanned him as good in a game with no cunning) or because they're very active posters (like hoopsguy and The Jackal in this game). There are also some players I find hard to get a read on, because they've not really done anything (or had anything done to them) to draw my attention - think that you've come under this category up to now. Now that you're the last of the people who voted for Danny back in Chapter 1 (with the caveats that it was the first vote for Danny, and there were good RP reasons for the vote), and all of the others have come back as on the side of the good guys, I need to take a good look at what contributions you've made - don't really have an opinion one way or the other about you at the moment, but there's enough there for some suspicion to be justified.

[Abe Sargent]

Night all

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by ntndeacon

And clap this does fit into my role that has been figured out. I am the drug addict.

Abe - can you answer this one directly? Does the Drug Addict role only have the opportunity to pick roles that are actively the game, or can he potentially pick up any of the roles listed on page #1? Live, dead, or never allocated to a player?

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Guys, sorry, I screwed this lynch up. I'm at a loss, so I am all for listening to each of your candidates.

I'm about to post the vote/unvote chart from yesterday. The easy argument from yesterday is that the wolves saved me from the lynch. But the correct argument would be that the wolves were never in any danger yesterday from the moment you made the total 3-1 on me back in post #310.

About the only good news I see right now is that with 10 players left we probably are not down to our final day on Monday. I'm working with the assumption that there are three remaining wolves. Thanks to the (presumed) BG block we probably have one more bad lynch left.

[hoopsguy]

Vote history from Day 5:
883 - NFG votes Hoops 1-0
886 - Hoops votes Jackal 1-1
887 - Clap votes Hoops 2-1 Hoops over Jackal
910 - PB votes for Hoops 3-1 Hoops over Jackal
911 - Jackal votes for Hoops 4-1 Hoops over Jackal
913 - TheNorm votes for Hoops 5-1 Hoops over Jackal
917 - PB unvotes Hoops, votes for TheNorm 4-1-1 Hoops over Jackal/TheNorm
918 - TheJackal unvotes Hoops, votes for TheNorm 3-2-1 Hoops over ThenOrm over Jackal
919 - Lerriuqs votes TheNorm 3-3-1 Hoops/TheNorm over Jackal
923 - Schmidty votes TheNorm 4-3-1 TheNorm over Hoops over Jackal
948 - MartinD votes TheNorm 5-3-1 TheNorm over Hoops over Jackal
953 - Jets votes TheNorm 6-3-1 TheNorm over Hoops over Jackal

[The Jackal]

Hoops:

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

Drug Abuser – Each even numbered night, has a 50% chance to gain a villager role until the end of the next even numbered chapter. So, for example, could randomly become a Sleuth for a chapter, or a Martyr, or a Diseased, etc. Does not work every night, and you will know who you become, if it works. This can give you a role not in the game.

[The Jackal]

It seems like we're split into three groups here to me.

The Cleared/Revealed:

PB - No doubt here.

NTN - Revealed as drug abuser, no counter-reveals, as I said earlier, every day he stays alive he becomes more suspicious.

The Day 1 Pass voters:

Me: I know I'm good, no one else can at this point unless NTN is being truthful and sneaky (doubtful since I imagine he wouldve revealed a scan by now if he had gotten a seer role at any point).

hoops: Involved in the thick of voting on a lot of days, was right to trust JAG and Norm apparently - but wolves know who the good guys are, so I take this lightly. Still not convinced he's the likeliest wolf but our pool is narrowing.

clap: Has been pretty much his normal self and hasn't said enough to give me much of a read. I have to look back at his votes/some of his posts before I would make any decision in terms of him vs hoops.

The Rest:

Schmidty: Poor voting record, wrong about Norm, suspicion meter is definitely blinking.

Lerriuqs: One of the enslutted - do we think the wolves have slutted any of their own by this point? Not getting a big wolf vibe from him but they have to be hiding somewhere.

nfg: Only alive, uncleared player left that was on Danny day 1 - I've posted my thoughts before about why I find it unlikely that makes him a wolf, but he's by no means clear at this point.

Jets: Playing an UTR game, like most of the guys in this "the rest" list. I genuinely have no read.

Martin: Pretty much the same as Jets - will have to take a look at their vote histories to make any decisions between them.

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So presumably we have at least one roled villager left in the game. This list was not comprehensive as I haven't compared voting histories (especially within that last group), but I wanted to get this out there for myself and for others if it helps them.

[hoopsguy]

OK, with that in mind I think NTN as a villager is an assumption that I'm going to be keeping for at least the next day or two.

[hoopsguy]

One point of clarification - I did extend some temporary trust to JAG on the day that he was lynched. I did not extent trust to TheNorm yesterday, but I did not think that he was the right candidate to test.

It is a somewhat minor point, but I'm pretty stingy with my trust for non-cleared folks.

My voting record is what it is - very bad miss on EF earlier in the game, no idea over the last two games until we see what you (The Jackal) are.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

OK, with that in mind I think NTN as a villager is an assumption that I'm going to be keeping for at least the next day or two.

It seems prudent to leave him out of the voting at this point, yes.

[The Jackal]

I just remember you saying he was 3rd on your trust list, or something to that effect, didn't mean to imply you were sure about him.

[The Jackal]

Well, I'm gonna go enjoy my Saturday. Will have more once we see what happens with the night phase and such.

[Abe Sargent]

Morni ng all

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

I just remember you saying he was 3rd on your trust list, or something to that effect, didn't mean to imply you were sure about him.

Actually, he was my 3rd voting choice - so was closer to bottom than top. But I didn't think that he made sense to have as an alternative candidate to me in terms of learning anything.

Another note, for those who are trying to figure out if I'm villager/wolf - why in the world would I have made that distinction yesterday? If I was in the running against a villager (we now know that TheNorm is one) then why would I have been picky about which villager people were pushing?

The answer is - I would not have been picky at all. As a wolf, the goal is to just survive and advance one more day. To always find one better candidate each day. There would have been zero upside, and potential risk to me, in trying to move it to another villager rather than just taking the bird in hand.

The fact that I was trying to drive us to make a lynch that would provide information beyond just one more dead body. The should be viewed as a very pro-village play. I would be interested in hearing any response to this from people who have voted me in past days and are right now leaning towards voting me on Monday.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Abe Sargent

Morni ng all

Morning, Abe.