Werewolf XCVIII - 24 Day Game Over - Post 2899 - Page 20

DaddyTorgo · 07-08-2009, 05:03 PM

leaving for home

Schmidty · 07-08-2009, 05:18 PM

Ok, I just caught up on the past 4 pages. From what read, I'm going to agree with (path I think) in that when PB was threatened, there was a really suspicious run to get those votes off of him. At this point, I'm going with:

Vote PurdueBad

Barkeep49 · 07-08-2009, 05:26 PM

Forewarning that there will be likely coverage gap sometime after 5:30.

Poli · 07-08-2009, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Forewarning that there will be likely coverage gap sometime after 5:30.

Beep, beep, beep...

The Jackal · 07-08-2009, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana

so work exploded about 10 minutes before i had to leave the office, and i havent really had time to catch up past mid afternoon, so apologies if missed something important.

i am going to vote for the sake of making sure i am on the record with soemthing....i voted for jackal yesterday for the sake of having someone to vote for, but i didnt really like the way he responded to that...i thought he was overly defensive, yeah the reason i voted him was dumb, but it was day one and i thought he was a little over angry.

vote the jackal

I mean, I thought your vote was silly, and I got kind of angry because it turned into a run on me.. I think it was justified. I didn't blow my top or anything.

The Jackal · 07-08-2009, 05:37 PM

I don't want to add another candidate to the mix, or I might give saldana another look. If I'm choosing between PB and clap, I think it's more likely clap is just being weird.

VOTE PB

Autumn · 07-08-2009, 05:38 PM

I'm out for dinner and dishes and putting kids to bed. I'll be back in sometime this evening.

Danny · 07-08-2009, 05:43 PM

Happy Anniversary Alan!

Danny · 07-08-2009, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingfc22

I'm not getting any good reads on anyone at the moment, but just to see what happens...

I'm going to Vote NFG22

FYI - I'll be pretty quiet today due to a death in my fiancee's family. I have to bring her to the airport a little later.

Expect to see more of me tomorrow for sure.

Sorry for you and your fiancee's loss.

Danny · 07-08-2009, 05:45 PM

Dp we have a vote count?

I need to leave for class in about 15 minutes, so will reevaluate my vote now and won;t be on again until probably after lynch.

Barkeep49 · 07-08-2009, 05:49 PM

Chief Rum: Danny (652, 8:18 PM) EagleFan (924, 3:23 PM) Telle (950, 3:53 PM)
Passacaglia: Clap (754, 8:15 AM)
Claphamsa: Pass (775, 8:57 AM) nfg (781, 9:21 AM) DT (923, 3:23 PM) Alan T (935, 3:31) Autumn (948, 3:46)
Purdue: path (867, 1:55) Schmidty (956 4:18 pm) Jackal (960, 4:37 pm)
Telle: BrianD (881, 2:23 PM)
nfg22: king (949, 3:51 PM)
The Jackal: Saldana (947, 3:44 PM)

Danny · 07-08-2009, 05:55 PM

Unvote Chief Rum
Vote PurdueBrad

I may revisit the CR vote later, but I think out of the two day 1 vote getters it is more likely PB is a wolf then NTN. Clap is not a bad vote either, but I don't want a runaway here.

PurdueBrad · 07-08-2009, 05:58 PM

Self-defense for now.

vote Claphamsa

hoopsguy · 07-08-2009, 06:41 PM

Well, I'm not sure how big a deal it is with no moderators around the thread - starting now - when there haven't been any posts in the last 40 minutes.

BK will probably be back here in the next 60-90 minutes if there are any questions to answer. I'll be back here (for more than a minute or two at a time) in a little less than three hours.

Chief Rum · 07-08-2009, 07:01 PM

Hmm, I would love to parse this whole PB-clap thing, but fact is, I still feel a little too under pressure, and this is my general short check in before skipping out for the afternoon. As such, I think I'm going to need to put in a self-preservation vote, since I won't be around to address things before a likely lynch.

I will be back tonight to catch up and see what goes down.

VOTE CLAPHAMSA

claphamsa · 07-08-2009, 07:19 PM

well llooks like im gonna get lynched..... here the pm i sent to DT

Im some far programmer... and I have special privelages with other programmers, but I dont know who they are......so fi someone tells you they are one of the programmers its good for me to know (maybe) probably wont matter

nothing vaguely wolfy..... im dead so whatever.... just stop letting someone who knows little more than you lead you around by your noses. and thanks for reminding me why i stopped playing WW in the first place.

EagleFan · 07-08-2009, 07:32 PM

What is the case against clap? He isn't anyone that pinged my wolfdar, but it seems to be faulty lately anyway.

The Jackal · 07-08-2009, 07:33 PM

He went off on DT and then rest of us for following DT, that's pretty much it.

The Jackal · 07-08-2009, 07:36 PM

But honestly clap you only have yourself to blame, you could've been cordial about suggesting that following DT blindly wasn't a good idea (which none of us ever said it was.. it was just day 1..), but you weren't cordial, you pinged a bunch of people's radars, and even if you're just good and being clap (which I had suspected) you can't act like this came out of nowhere.

claphamsa · 07-08-2009, 07:40 PM

i dont think it came out of nowhere. i just think its foolish. for people to think that DT actually knows anything... is ridiculous. we know hes good... what else? thats it. who is to say mine or any other PM is accurate?

claphamsa · 07-08-2009, 07:41 PM

he might have more info.... but its probably LESS accurate than the info we have... and because of it well have 2 lynches and night killings (minimum) with no info gained from it.

The Jackal · 07-08-2009, 07:41 PM

No one is to say that it's accurate, but on day one, when we have nothing to go on, if he thought he found an inconsistency or something fishy in someone's PM, that sounds better to me than a lot of reasons for most day 1 votes.

The Jackal · 07-08-2009, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa

he might have more info.... but its probably LESS accurate than the info we have... and because of it well have 2 lynches and night killings (minimum) with no info gained from it.

I doubt that, it's not like KWhit was an early runaway. And this hasn't really been a runaway on you, there's plenty of room for vote analysis.

EagleFan · 07-08-2009, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal

He went off on DT and then rest of us for following DT, that's pretty much it.

That's not exactly a reason to lynch him though. Why would a wolf go off on DT about leading everyone to vote out a villager?

claphamsa · 07-08-2009, 07:44 PM

everyone will just fall back on, i was following jack!

The Jackal · 07-08-2009, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan

That's not exactly a reason to lynch him though. Why would a wolf go off on DT about leading everyone to vote out a villager?

I never said it was a reason to lynch him, and I'm not voting for him. So yeah, other people are welcome to answer that.

claphamsa · 07-08-2009, 07:45 PM

one thing to think of.... why would a wolf play the way i have?

The Jackal · 07-08-2009, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa

everyone will just fall back on, i was following jack!

Yes, that's a danger if you follow that route everyday. You can't let wolves hide in day after day of runaway votes - but we've had at least some movement going on here, I don't think all is lost. And you aren't lynched.. yet.

The Jackal · 07-08-2009, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa

one thing to think of.... why would a wolf play the way i have?

Probably wouldn't unless they have to trigger something by getting lynched.

Autumn · 07-08-2009, 07:49 PM

It's not just Clap's talk about DT that's getting him votes. It is the fact that DT has reason to suspect his role is a fake one. That's the main reason to vote him, as far as I can see, DT has said he is one of the two suspicious role reveals left. The fact that he therefore came out this morning against DT makes me suspicious that he realized he was under the gun and had to try to convince people not to listen to DT's gut. The fact that he did so in true clap fashion is just clap.

The Jackal · 07-08-2009, 07:50 PM

Oh, that's right, I forgot he was one of DT's two questionable PM people.

EagleFan · 07-08-2009, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa

one thing to think of.... why would a wolf play the way i have?

Ufortunately I've seen wolves say that very statement so that doesn't help much.

EagleFan · 07-08-2009, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Oh, that's right, I forgot he was one of DT's two questionable PM people.

True but we see where trusting that feeling got us yesterday. "Jack" really let us down yesterday.

claphamsa · 07-08-2009, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

It's not just Clap's talk about DT that's getting him votes. It is the fact that DT has reason to suspect his role is a fake one. That's the main reason to vote him, as far as I can see, DT has said he is one of the two suspicious role reveals left. The fact that he therefore came out this morning against DT makes me suspicious that he realized he was under the gun and had to try to convince people not to listen to DT's gut. The fact that he did so in true clap fashion is just clap.

DT has no reason to suspect anything.

The Jackal · 07-08-2009, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa

DT has no reason to suspect anything.

Except in comparing your PMs to all the others he received, presumably.

claphamsa · 07-08-2009, 08:07 PM

i psoted my pm.... anything suspicious about it to anyone other than DT?

ntndeacon · 07-08-2009, 08:09 PM

I think some of the suspicion on clap has been his questioning of what DT knows. which is good to a degree, we should question what we believe. I am also a little less likely to vote for him since I was the thing he was railing agaist following. Thus if it is just clap vs pB we are talking about then
Vote Purduebrad

ntndeacon · 07-08-2009, 08:10 PM

I do not think I will be back before the lynch.

claphamsa · 07-08-2009, 08:14 PM

unvote pass the wolf
vote pb... just incase

The Jackal · 07-08-2009, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa

i psoted my pm.... anything suspicious about it to anyone other than DT?

Not really, but DT presumably knows a lot of people's roles and if no other programmers have made themselves apparent to them, maybe one of you is a wolf, I don't know exactly what the line of thinking is.

The Jackal · 07-08-2009, 08:15 PM

We have a vote count?

The Jackal · 07-08-2009, 08:15 PM

*apparent to him

claphamsa · 07-08-2009, 08:17 PM

i have 8 pb has 6

claphamsa · 07-08-2009, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Not really, but DT presumably knows a lot of people's roles and if no other programmers have made themselves apparent to them, maybe one of you is a wolf, I don't know exactly what the line of thinking is.

well per the rules.... there were maybe 30 ish roles? and 6 were programmers... so there HAS to be another programmer.....

hoopsguy · 07-08-2009, 08:18 PM

Chief Rum - EagleFan (924, 3:23 PM), Telle (950, 3:53 PM)
Claphamsa - Pass (775, 8:57 AM), nfg (781, 9:21 AM), DT (923, 3:23 PM), Alan T (935, 3:31), Autumn (948, 3:46), Purdue (967, 4:58 pm), Chief (969, 6:01 PM)

Purdue - path (867, 1:55), Schmidty (956 4:18 pm), Jackal (960, 4:37 pm), Danny (966 4:55 pm), NTN (991, 7:09 PM), Clap (993, 7:14 PM)

Telle - BrianD (881, 2:23 PM)

nfg22 - king (949, 3:51 PM)

The Jackal - Saldana (947, 3:44 PM)

Thomkal · 07-08-2009, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa

i psoted my pm.... anything suspicious about it to anyone other than DT?

There may not be anything suspicious in the pm itself Clap, its the fact that no one apparantly has told DT that they are a programmer as well, and apparantly nobody claiming to be a programmer has tried to contact you via one of our four free PM's either. Why if they are good, would a programmer hold that back from DT the only known good in the game?

Passacaglia · 07-08-2009, 08:22 PM

hoops -- when did today start?

hoopsguy · 07-08-2009, 08:23 PM

Pass, I believe it was 8:06 PM on 7/7. Will double-check that now.

claphamsa · 07-08-2009, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal

There may not be anything suspicious in the pm itself Clap, its the fact that no one apparantly has told DT that they are a programmer as well, and apparantly nobody claiming to be a programmer has tried to contact you via one of our four free PM's either. Why if they are good, would a programmer hold that back from DT the only known good in the game?

well i never said i was the programmer looking for other programmers till about an hour ago....

Passacaglia · 07-08-2009, 08:25 PM

UNVOTE CLAPHAMSA

07-08-2009, 05:03 PM	#951
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	leaving for home __________________ Get bent whoever hacked my pw and changed my signature.

07-08-2009, 05:18 PM	#952
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Ok, I just caught up on the past 4 pages. From what read, I'm going to agree with (path I think) in that when PB was threatened, there was a really suspicious run to get those votes off of him. At this point, I'm going with: Vote PurdueBad __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

07-08-2009, 07:01 PM	#965
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Hmm, I would love to parse this whole PB-clap thing, but fact is, I still feel a little too under pressure, and this is my general short check in before skipping out for the afternoon. As such, I think I'm going to need to put in a self-preservation vote, since I won't be around to address things before a likely lynch. I will be back tonight to catch up and see what goes down. VOTE CLAPHAMSA __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

07-08-2009, 07:19 PM	#966
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	well llooks like im gonna get lynched..... here the pm i sent to DT Im some far programmer... and I have special privelages with other programmers, but I dont know who they are......so fi someone tells you they are one of the programmers its good for me to know (maybe) probably wont matter nothing vaguely wolfy..... im dead so whatever.... just stop letting someone who knows little more than you lead you around by your noses. and thanks for reminding me why i stopped playing WW in the first place. __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

07-08-2009, 07:40 PM	#970
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	i dont think it came out of nowhere. i just think its foolish. for people to think that DT actually knows anything... is ridiculous. we know hes good... what else? thats it. who is to say mine or any other PM is accurate? __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

07-08-2009, 05:26 PM	#953
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Forewarning that there will be likely coverage gap sometime after 5:30.

07-08-2009, 05:37 PM	#956
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	I don't want to add another candidate to the mix, or I might give saldana another look. If I'm choosing between PB and clap, I think it's more likely clap is just being weird. VOTE PB

07-08-2009, 05:38 PM	#957
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	I'm out for dinner and dishes and putting kids to bed. I'll be back in sometime this evening.

07-08-2009, 05:43 PM	#958
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Happy Anniversary Alan!

07-08-2009, 05:45 PM	#960
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Dp we have a vote count? I need to leave for class in about 15 minutes, so will reevaluate my vote now and won;t be on again until probably after lynch.

07-08-2009, 05:55 PM	#962
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Unvote Chief Rum Vote PurdueBrad I may revisit the CR vote later, but I think out of the two day 1 vote getters it is more likely PB is a wolf then NTN. Clap is not a bad vote either, but I don't want a runaway here.

07-08-2009, 06:41 PM	#964
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Well, I'm not sure how big a deal it is with no moderators around the thread - starting now - when there haven't been any posts in the last 40 minutes. BK will probably be back here in the next 60-90 minutes if there are any questions to answer. I'll be back here (for more than a minute or two at a time) in a little less than three hours.

07-08-2009, 07:32 PM	#967
EagleFan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Mays Landing, NJ USA	What is the case against clap? He isn't anyone that pinged my wolfdar, but it seems to be faulty lately anyway.

07-08-2009, 07:33 PM	#968
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	He went off on DT and then rest of us for following DT, that's pretty much it.

07-08-2009, 07:36 PM	#969
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	But honestly clap you only have yourself to blame, you could've been cordial about suggesting that following DT blindly wasn't a good idea (which none of us ever said it was.. it was just day 1..), but you weren't cordial, you pinged a bunch of people's radars, and even if you're just good and being clap (which I had suspected) you can't act like this came out of nowhere.

07-08-2009, 07:41 PM	#971
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	he might have more info.... but its probably LESS accurate than the info we have... and because of it well have 2 lynches and night killings (minimum) with no info gained from it. __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

07-08-2009, 07:41 PM	#972
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	No one is to say that it's accurate, but on day one, when we have nothing to go on, if he thought he found an inconsistency or something fishy in someone's PM, that sounds better to me than a lot of reasons for most day 1 votes.

07-08-2009, 07:44 PM	#975
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	everyone will just fall back on, i was following jack! __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

07-08-2009, 07:45 PM	#977
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	one thing to think of.... why would a wolf play the way i have? __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

07-08-2009, 07:49 PM	#980
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	It's not just Clap's talk about DT that's getting him votes. It is the fact that DT has reason to suspect his role is a fake one. That's the main reason to vote him, as far as I can see, DT has said he is one of the two suspicious role reveals left. The fact that he therefore came out this morning against DT makes me suspicious that he realized he was under the gun and had to try to convince people not to listen to DT's gut. The fact that he did so in true clap fashion is just clap.

07-08-2009, 07:50 PM	#981
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	Oh, that's right, I forgot he was one of DT's two questionable PM people.

07-08-2009, 08:07 PM	#986
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	i psoted my pm.... anything suspicious about it to anyone other than DT? __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

07-08-2009, 08:09 PM	#987
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	I think some of the suspicion on clap has been his questioning of what DT knows. which is good to a degree, we should question what we believe. I am also a little less likely to vote for him since I was the thing he was railing agaist following. Thus if it is just clap vs pB we are talking about then Vote Purduebrad

07-08-2009, 08:10 PM	#988
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	I do not think I will be back before the lynch.

07-08-2009, 08:14 PM	#989
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	unvote pass the wolf vote pb... just incase __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

07-08-2009, 08:15 PM	#991
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	We have a vote count?

07-08-2009, 08:15 PM	#992
The Jackal Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Hampshire	*apparent to him

07-08-2009, 08:17 PM	#993
claphamsa Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: non white trash MD	i have 8 pb has 6 __________________ Dominating Warewolf for 0 games! GIT R DUN!!!

07-08-2009, 08:22 PM	#997
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	hoops -- when did today start?

07-08-2009, 08:23 PM	#998
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Pass, I believe it was 8:06 PM on 7/7. Will double-check that now.

07-08-2009, 08:25 PM	#1000
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	UNVOTE CLAPHAMSA

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