Werewolf XXXIV: Tombstone (GAME OVER - Night 13) - Page 20

GoldenEagle · 10-11-2006, 09:21 AM

Is saldana the guy you really want to running the show? We have one lynch possibillity and that is the town mayor! Can we get ball rolling on a new sheriff?

Grammaticus · 10-11-2006, 09:24 AM

So, what happened? Saldana, Lathum, Swaggs and GE, can you fill us in on how you got out, were jailed, etc.? Saldana, why did you jail swaggs?

Grammaticus · 10-11-2006, 09:25 AM

dola, sorry posted that prior to seeing another page.

Barkeep49 · 10-11-2006, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenEagle

Is saldana the guy you really want to running the show? We have one lynch possibillity and that is the town mayor! Can we get ball rolling on a new sheriff?

So who would you rather have?

Also Anxiety, I am very unclear on what you are saying. Are you saying that someone attempted to kill you last night, but you were disugised and so the attempt failed?

saldana · 10-11-2006, 09:26 AM

here is what happened last night

i sent in conditional orders

if GE' let lathum out, i would have put two people in...swaggs and someone else

since GE let someone else out, i freed lathum and jailed swaggs.

assuming i am still sherrif tonight, i will be rearresting GE,

most likely i will also arrest deacon, unless he explains what he was doing out of his house at the same time i was away from the jail, and GE got out. (i saw him returning to his house while i was arresting swaggs)

Grammaticus · 10-11-2006, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Anxiety

I didn;t get a message saying that killers came for me but instead only found who I was disguised as, so I can't confirm that they swung at me and missed.

Maybe they were targeting Swaggs who was enjailed? Or maybe BG blocked or converted. Too much info to draw one easy conclusion.

Uh, Anxiety you are not showing as tired. That would mean you did not use your ability two days in a row???

Barkeep49 · 10-11-2006, 09:30 AM

I know, Gram, that's what's confusing me too. The story doesn't add up today.

GoldenEagle · 10-11-2006, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

So, what happened? Saldana, Lathum, Swaggs and GE, can you fill us in on how you got out, were jailed, etc.? Saldana, why did you jail swaggs?

Saldana let Lathum out and I let myself out. I explained to the deputy on duty that since I was an former sheriff and all, I do not think I should be in jail. He agreed and I was let out.

Swaggs came into jail while I was still there. I waved and thanked him on my way out.

GoldenEagle · 10-11-2006, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by saldana

assuming i am still sherrif tonight, i will be rearresting GE,

most likely i will also arrest deacon, unless he explains what he was doing out of his house at the same time i was away from the jail, and GE got out. (i saw him returning to his house while i was arresting swaggs)

So what you are saying is that I escaped while you were arresting Swaggs?

hoopsguy · 10-11-2006, 09:35 AM

I believe that Saldana could only jail one person since he was freeing Lathum. So that is why there is only one person in jail. But I'm still curious about Swaggs as the decision to arrest.

Saldana, do you think Swaggs is a Cowboy, or did you have another reason for putting him in jail?

Grammaticus · 10-11-2006, 09:36 AM

Saldana, I don't see the point in jailing Swaggs. Are you planning on protecting him by leaving him in the pokey for the whole game?

st.cronin · 10-11-2006, 09:37 AM

ntndeacon visited me last night. I didn't get a cowboy vibe from him, but it was pretty confusing, so who knows.

hoopsguy · 10-11-2006, 09:37 AM

NTN and Chubby are the only two players showing up as tired today. I agree with Saldana about wanting to hear more from NTN. Also, Anxiety had confidence in NTN yesterday - is that still the case this morning?

st.cronin · 10-11-2006, 09:38 AM

elect Barkeep

no lynch

spleen1015 · 10-11-2006, 09:38 AM

Swaggs did ask to be put in jail for reasons of protection. Maybe saldana granted that request?

Grammaticus · 10-11-2006, 09:38 AM

Saldana, in what part of town did you arrest Swaggs and see NTN deacon.

What part of town Racer, did you hear gunshots??

SnDvls · 10-11-2006, 09:39 AM

VOTE NO LYNCH

GoldenEagle · 10-11-2006, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Saldana, I don't see the point in jailing Swaggs. Are you planning on protecting him by leaving him in the pokey for the whole game?

I do not think that saldana is thinking with a logical head right now. I really have no clue what he was thinking by putting Swaggs in the slammer.

hoopsguy · 10-11-2006, 09:42 AM

GE, Saldana knows how to handle his business in WW games - I'm sure there is logic behind his play. But I would like him to share it with us - does he feel Swaggs is a good lynch candidate or is this a protection move?

spleen1015 · 10-11-2006, 09:44 AM

I'm sure my credibility is shot after all of the craziness I posted yesterday with all of my suspicions, but I don't like how saldana reacted to GE last night. I wanted to post this last night, but I felt like the situation surrounding the lynch over shadowed me for a bit and I didn't want to bring more attention onto myself.

Saldana's reaction just doesn't fit in with how I think he should have treated the situation if he was a good guy.

Racer · 10-11-2006, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Saldana, in what part of town did you arrest Swaggs and see NTN deacon.

What part of town Racer, did you hear gunshots??

I heard gunshots after night one. I was sleeping prior to hearing them, so I'm not sure where they came from. I didn't hear any gunshots last night nor did I receive a PM after night two.

Glengoyne · 10-11-2006, 09:50 AM

I am thinking that since Thomkal bought it in the SW corner of town that the folks that heard shots also live in that little corner of Tombstone.

st.cronin · 10-11-2006, 09:52 AM

Today might be a good day for some brave dude to challenge Chubby to a duel. I don't have a gun, so it won't be me.

Barkeep49 · 10-11-2006, 09:52 AM

Glengoyne I think that's likely true, as well, thought they might not be the only people who live in that part of the town if I read my night message from last night correctly.

hoopsguy · 10-11-2006, 09:53 AM

Agreed on the map aspect that a couple of people have brought up - not sure how we use the information at this stage in the game but that theory makes sense.

spleen1015 · 10-11-2006, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Today might be a good day for some brave dude to challenge Chubby to a duel. I don't have a gun, so it won't be me.

If I had a gun, I would.

Racer · 10-11-2006, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Agreed on the map aspect that a couple of people have brought up - not sure how we use the information at this stage in the game but that theory makes sense.

Perhaps we could use it to try to catch people lieing. For example, if people claimed to hear something in one part of town, and later it turns out who they were visiting that night or where they live is not in that part of town then it shows they are probably lieing.

Grammaticus · 10-11-2006, 09:59 AM

Anxiety, another thing you said yesterday is bothering me compared to what you said today.

Yesterday you said that you choose who to mimic, but today you said "I didn;t get a message saying that killers came for me but instead only found who I was disguised as, so I can't confirm that they swung at me and missed."

That implies that you don't know specifically who you will mimic. That along with you not being tired after mimicing two nights in a row, does not add up.

Glengoyne · 10-11-2006, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

elect Barkeep

no lynch

Cronin, Why Barkeep?

I may be totally off base, and completely hornswaggled, but I want new people jailed tonight. I don't like the Swaggs option, so I won't be voting to lynch tonight. I also have no damning evidence, or even not so damning evidence about the folks we have had in jail so far. So I definitely don't like the thought of re-arresting one of them.

Alan T · 10-11-2006, 10:08 AM

This was asked in PM, but probably an answer should go to everyone. I'm not giving out information to what part of town others live in as that should be found out in game. If you don't know exactly where you live and want to know, drop me a PM. (Many or most probably already do know however, or should know if they paid attention to their PMs! Just some havent received the information as of yet in a PM.)

st.cronin · 10-11-2006, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Anxiety, another thing you said yesterday is bothering me compared to what you said today.

Yesterday you said that you choose who to mimic, but today you said "I didn;t get a message saying that killers came for me but instead only found who I was disguised as, so I can't confirm that they swung at me and missed."

That implies that you don't know specifically who you will mimic. That along with you not being tired after mimicing two nights in a row, does not add up.

Not sure I agree with this. Remember, he did not go out that first night, so it may be that his mimicry doesn't even count as a night action, and instead he either has no night action, or some other night action that he hasn't told us about yet.

Abe Sargent · 10-11-2006, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

So who would you rather have?

Also Anxiety, I am very unclear on what you are saying. Are you saying that someone attempted to kill you last night, but you were disugised and so the attempt failed?

No, I'm saying that I didn't get any pm that said someone tried to kill me off but didn't because I was someone else. So it doesn't look like they came after me.

SnDvls · 10-11-2006, 10:11 AM

For the record I didn't hear gun shots on night one.

I'll PM Alan and find out what part of town I live in as I don't know yet and haven't gotten any PM since my role one.

st.cronin · 10-11-2006, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Glengoyne

Cronin, Why Barkeep?

I may be totally off base, and completely hornswaggled, but I want new people jailed tonight. I don't like the Swaggs option, so I won't be voting to lynch tonight. I also have no damning evidence, or even not so damning evidence about the folks we have had in jail so far. So I definitely don't like the thought of re-arresting one of them.

Barkeep is just who I trust the most right now, but if people think somebody else is more deserving, I will get behind that. I think we need a new sherriff and I think it should be either Barkeep, Lathum, ntndeacon, or Anxiety.

Abe Sargent · 10-11-2006, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Uh, Anxiety you are not showing as tired. That would mean you did not use your ability two days in a row???

My ability is un-penalized whatever that means. I beleive that to mean that putting on a disguise doesn't really take the same level of energy that seering or BGing or whatnot takes. So I don't get tired from it.

-Anxiety

Grammaticus · 10-11-2006, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

Not sure I agree with this. Remember, he did not go out that first night, so it may be that his mimicry doesn't even count as a night action, and instead he either has no night action, or some other night action that he hasn't told us about yet.

Sure, but I would think a valuable night action such as that would be something that has a check and balance. Being tired seems to be the logical conclusion.

Abe Sargent · 10-11-2006, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Anxiety, another thing you said yesterday is bothering me compared to what you said today.

Yesterday you said that you choose who to mimic, but today you said "I didn;t get a message saying that killers came for me but instead only found who I was disguised as, so I can't confirm that they swung at me and missed."

That implies that you don't know specifically who you will mimic. That along with you not being tired after mimicing two nights in a row, does not add up.

No, that implies that I am not telling you who I mimiced

I want to keep my island of solitude just in case I need to go there again.

path12 · 10-11-2006, 10:17 AM

I haven't received any PM's since the initial one, so haven't heard any gunshots either night. I'm also not sure where I live in the town as of yet.

SnDvls · 10-11-2006, 10:35 AM

I live in the NE part of town

GoldenEagle · 10-11-2006, 10:36 AM

saldana, if you want to just settle this dispute in the street, let me know. I will meet you at high noon.

Barkeep49 · 10-11-2006, 10:37 AM

I appreciate the sentiment cronin has expressed for me to be sheriff and would, if people wanted, be willing to step-up at this point. I could also, whole heartedly, get behind Lathum as a candidate. I've grown a little more uneasy with Anxiety today as I would have thought his using of his dress up would count to make him tired. Anxiety, without saying what it is, do you have another night ability? I still think he'd likely make a good candidate too. While I trust NTN, I'm not sure where he's at gamewise and would be more reluctant to trust that he'll use the powers well at this point.

All this is not to say that I'm ready to jump off of saldana. I really want to hear from him about his rationale for the night actions. He released Lathum, which I see as good. Swaggs seems like it needs some explanation, but I remain open minded.

st.cronin · 10-11-2006, 10:38 AM

I would like to hear some input on who should be sherriff.

ntndeacon · 10-11-2006, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

NTN and Chubby are the only two players showing up as tired today. I agree with Saldana about wanting to hear more from NTN. Also, Anxiety had confidence in NTN yesterday - is that still the case this morning?

Well I did go out and see St. Cronin as he stated. We had a nice talk. When iwas coming home I watched Swaggs get arrested. It was in the southeast section.

Barkeep49 · 10-11-2006, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin

I would like to hear some input on who should be sherriff.

I obviously agree

.

Barkeep49 · 10-11-2006, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon

Well I did go out and see St. Cronin as he stated. We had a nice talk. When iwas coming home I watched Swaggs get arrested. It was in the southeast section.

Aren't you just the social butterfly? Anxiety has basically vouched for you, but all of this talking, with what appears to be no discernable effect, and after the village made it clear that they'd view tired people suspiciously, has me a bit concerned. But Anxiety's vouching for you goes a long way.

st.cronin · 10-11-2006, 10:45 AM

By the way, ntn, is it possible that an outcome you expected did not happen? I think what you were trying to do did not work. At any rate, I'm pretty sure I know your role, and would be very comfortable with you as sherriff.

ntndeacon · 10-11-2006, 10:48 AM

dola
And while I thank you Cronin for an endorsement as sherriff. I am not sure that would be the best thing for me. I would rather be out doing my role. In terms of who could be a good Sherriff...I would trust either Anxiety or Lathum. If my thoughts about what Barkeep's job does is correct, it would not be a bad thing for him to be able to use his role.

ntndeacon · 10-11-2006, 10:57 AM

Cronin, No it did not work. I wouldn't say it was something expected, but rather something hoped for.

Barkeep: I understand the extra scrutiny that is going to fall on me from being tired. I think it is worth the extra scrutiny in order to go out more than every other night.

Chubby · 10-11-2006, 11:21 AM

If someone kills me in a showdown, your an idiot.

Goldeneagle and Lathum both had guns when arrested.
Ntndeacon went to St Cronins house last night
St Cronin did most of the talking with NTNdeacon listening

Chubby · 10-11-2006, 11:26 AM

If someone kills me in a showdown, your an idiot.

Goldeneagle and Lathum both had guns when arrested.
Ntndeacon went to St Cronins house last night
St Cronin did most of the talking with NTNdeacon listening

10-11-2006, 09:21 AM	#951
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	Is saldana the guy you really want to running the show? We have one lynch possibillity and that is the town mayor! Can we get ball rolling on a new sheriff? __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

10-11-2006, 09:37 AM	#962
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	ntndeacon visited me last night. I didn't get a cowboy vibe from him, but it was pretty confusing, so who knows. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

10-11-2006, 09:38 AM	#964
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	elect Barkeep no lynch __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

10-11-2006, 09:52 AM	#973
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Today might be a good day for some brave dude to challenge Chubby to a duel. I don't have a gun, so it won't be me. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

10-11-2006, 10:17 AM	#988
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	I haven't received any PM's since the initial one, so haven't heard any gunshots either night. I'm also not sure where I live in the town as of yet. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

10-11-2006, 09:24 AM	#952
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	So, what happened? Saldana, Lathum, Swaggs and GE, can you fill us in on how you got out, were jailed, etc.? Saldana, why did you jail swaggs?

10-11-2006, 09:25 AM	#953
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	dola, sorry posted that prior to seeing another page.

10-11-2006, 09:26 AM	#955
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	here is what happened last night i sent in conditional orders if GE' let lathum out, i would have put two people in...swaggs and someone else since GE let someone else out, i freed lathum and jailed swaggs. assuming i am still sherrif tonight, i will be rearresting GE, most likely i will also arrest deacon, unless he explains what he was doing out of his house at the same time i was away from the jail, and GE got out. (i saw him returning to his house while i was arresting swaggs)

10-11-2006, 09:30 AM	#957
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I know, Gram, that's what's confusing me too. The story doesn't add up today.

10-11-2006, 09:35 AM	#960
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I believe that Saldana could only jail one person since he was freeing Lathum. So that is why there is only one person in jail. But I'm still curious about Swaggs as the decision to arrest. Saldana, do you think Swaggs is a Cowboy, or did you have another reason for putting him in jail?

10-11-2006, 09:36 AM	#961
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Saldana, I don't see the point in jailing Swaggs. Are you planning on protecting him by leaving him in the pokey for the whole game?

10-11-2006, 09:37 AM	#963
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	NTN and Chubby are the only two players showing up as tired today. I agree with Saldana about wanting to hear more from NTN. Also, Anxiety had confidence in NTN yesterday - is that still the case this morning?

10-11-2006, 09:38 AM	#965
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	Swaggs did ask to be put in jail for reasons of protection. Maybe saldana granted that request?

10-11-2006, 09:38 AM	#966
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Saldana, in what part of town did you arrest Swaggs and see NTN deacon. What part of town Racer, did you hear gunshots??

10-11-2006, 09:39 AM	#967
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	VOTE NO LYNCH

10-11-2006, 09:42 AM	#969
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	GE, Saldana knows how to handle his business in WW games - I'm sure there is logic behind his play. But I would like him to share it with us - does he feel Swaggs is a good lynch candidate or is this a protection move?

10-11-2006, 09:44 AM	#970
spleen1015 Coordinator Join Date: Sep 2003	I'm sure my credibility is shot after all of the craziness I posted yesterday with all of my suspicions, but I don't like how saldana reacted to GE last night. I wanted to post this last night, but I felt like the situation surrounding the lynch over shadowed me for a bit and I didn't want to bring more attention onto myself. Saldana's reaction just doesn't fit in with how I think he should have treated the situation if he was a good guy.

10-11-2006, 09:50 AM	#972
Glengoyne Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Fresno, CA	I am thinking that since Thomkal bought it in the SW corner of town that the folks that heard shots also live in that little corner of Tombstone.

10-11-2006, 09:52 AM	#974
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Glengoyne I think that's likely true, as well, thought they might not be the only people who live in that part of the town if I read my night message from last night correctly.

10-11-2006, 09:53 AM	#975
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Agreed on the map aspect that a couple of people have brought up - not sure how we use the information at this stage in the game but that theory makes sense.

10-11-2006, 09:59 AM	#978
Grammaticus Pro Rookie Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Tennessee	Anxiety, another thing you said yesterday is bothering me compared to what you said today. Yesterday you said that you choose who to mimic, but today you said "I didn;t get a message saying that killers came for me but instead only found who I was disguised as, so I can't confirm that they swung at me and missed." That implies that you don't know specifically who you will mimic. That along with you not being tired after mimicing two nights in a row, does not add up.

10-11-2006, 10:08 AM	#980
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	This was asked in PM, but probably an answer should go to everyone. I'm not giving out information to what part of town others live in as that should be found out in game. If you don't know exactly where you live and want to know, drop me a PM. (Many or most probably already do know however, or should know if they paid attention to their PMs! Just some havent received the information as of yet in a PM.)

10-11-2006, 10:11 AM	#983
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	For the record I didn't hear gun shots on night one. I'll PM Alan and find out what part of town I live in as I don't know yet and haven't gotten any PM since my role one.

10-11-2006, 10:35 AM	#989
SnDvls Pro Starter Join Date: Jul 2001	I live in the NE part of town

10-11-2006, 10:36 AM	#990
GoldenEagle Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Little Rock, AR	saldana, if you want to just settle this dispute in the street, let me know. I will meet you at high noon. __________________ Xbox 360 Gamer Tag: GoldenEagle014

10-11-2006, 10:37 AM	#991
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	I appreciate the sentiment cronin has expressed for me to be sheriff and would, if people wanted, be willing to step-up at this point. I could also, whole heartedly, get behind Lathum as a candidate. I've grown a little more uneasy with Anxiety today as I would have thought his using of his dress up would count to make him tired. Anxiety, without saying what it is, do you have another night ability? I still think he'd likely make a good candidate too. While I trust NTN, I'm not sure where he's at gamewise and would be more reluctant to trust that he'll use the powers well at this point. All this is not to say that I'm ready to jump off of saldana. I really want to hear from him about his rationale for the night actions. He released Lathum, which I see as good. Swaggs seems like it needs some explanation, but I remain open minded.

10-11-2006, 10:38 AM	#992
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	I would like to hear some input on who should be sherriff. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

10-11-2006, 10:45 AM	#996
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	By the way, ntn, is it possible that an outcome you expected did not happen? I think what you were trying to do did not work. At any rate, I'm pretty sure I know your role, and would be very comfortable with you as sherriff. __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

10-11-2006, 10:48 AM	#997
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	dola And while I thank you Cronin for an endorsement as sherriff. I am not sure that would be the best thing for me. I would rather be out doing my role. In terms of who could be a good Sherriff...I would trust either Anxiety or Lathum. If my thoughts about what Barkeep's job does is correct, it would not be a bad thing for him to be able to use his role.

10-11-2006, 10:57 AM	#998
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	Cronin, No it did not work. I wouldn't say it was something expected, but rather something hoped for. Barkeep: I understand the extra scrutiny that is going to fall on me from being tired. I think it is worth the extra scrutiny in order to go out more than every other night.

10-11-2006, 11:21 AM	#999
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	If someone kills me in a showdown, your an idiot. Goldeneagle and Lathum both had guns when arrested. Ntndeacon went to St Cronins house last night St Cronin did most of the talking with NTNdeacon listening

10-11-2006, 11:26 AM	#1000
Chubby Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Syracuse, NY	If someone kills me in a showdown, your an idiot. Goldeneagle and Lathum both had guns when arrested. Ntndeacon went to St Cronins house last night St Cronin did most of the talking with NTNdeacon listening

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