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Bad-example · 12-16-2010, 10:16 AM

The previews look great. I have extremely high expectations for this. Can't...friggin'...wait.

Don't really like the casting for The Hound or Jon Snow.

MrBug708 · 12-22-2010, 04:57 PM

Watching Larry King sign off of his TV made me think that he'd play an excellent Walder Frey

Crapshoot · 12-31-2010, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flere-imsaho

Crapshoot: Yes. I enjoy both genres, but probably more SF than Fantasy. I get annoyed with Fantasy when it gets too contrived, trite and annoying, but this series isn't like that. If there's such as thing as "Hard" Fantasy (as there is "Hard" SF - i.e. straightforward plot and reality, though futurist, SF), this is probably it.

In fact, now that I think about it, I'd say there are a good few similarities between this and the work of Alastair Reynolds (Revelation Space, Chasm City), who I've read recently.

4 years later, but I just devoured the series. Goddamnit Martin - give me a Dance With Dragons!

Crapshoot · 12-31-2010, 04:14 PM

Dola, I read all 4 books over a week and a half period - Christmas break is helpful, as is being sick. Wow. So many thoughts, but here is some of what I think:

Spoiler

MrBug708 · 12-31-2010, 05:45 PM

Your fourth point was interesting as I am re-reading the fourth book. Kevan Lannister flat out told Cersei that she wasn't her father and that he was going him. She never thought he would actually turn down her offer of the King's Hand. She slowly learned that all of her "power" stemmed from being the daughter of Tywin, the mother of the "King's Children" and somewhat of Jaime's sister. People did things solely for that, not of any respect of who she actually was.

TargetPractice6 · 12-31-2010, 08:16 PM

I don't think I ever saw Cersei as a master manipulator in the first place. She pretty much had Sansa fall into her lap and confess all of her father's plans in AGoT. She was also botching things up enough that Tywin had to send Tyrion to reign her and Joffrey in. I don't think her character changed so much as we got to see more of her once she became a pointer of view character in AFfC.

ISiddiqui · 01-01-2011, 02:00 AM

She was just someone who thought she was a master manipulator, but nothing really stood out to me either.

3ric · 01-01-2011, 01:31 PM

Yes, Cersei is truly someone who believes she's smarter than she really is. It just became more obvious in her POV chapters.

Crapshoot · 01-01-2011, 01:33 PM

Right, I'm saying that in AGOT, that wasn't obvious at all but once we saw her POV, we saw that wasn't capable of playing with the big boys (aka, her Father). At this point, Prince Dorne / Littlefinger / Varys seem like the most "manipulative" characters.

Honolulu_Blue · 01-10-2011, 09:22 AM

HBO has announced that "Game of Thrones" will start on Sunday April 17.

They also released a bunch of new stills:

HBO - Making Game of Thrones

MrBug708 · 01-10-2011, 09:28 AM

Woot!

Honolulu_Blue · 01-17-2011, 10:45 AM

Here is a link to the latest trailer for the HBO show. (Sorry, I can't seem to embed video. I've tried many times.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ5p18wIQEI

It looks super sweet.

cougarfreak · 01-17-2011, 12:26 PM

Any idea how many episodes it will be?

Honolulu_Blue · 01-17-2011, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cougarfreak

Any idea how many episodes it will be?

I think 10.

Edward64 · 02-19-2011, 09:46 AM

Been seeing the GOT trailers ... really excited about this one, ready for Apr to see if its any good (it has to be!). Will have to get the blu-ray verison for Christmas.

Been checking GRRM's website now and then, no real news on the next book that I've found ... anyone have an update?

MrBug708 · 02-19-2011, 10:31 AM

Honolulu_Blue · 02-19-2011, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edward64

Been seeing the GOT trailers ... really excited about this one, ready for Apr to see if its any good (it has to be!). Will have to get the blu-ray verison for Christmas.

Been checking GRRM's website now and then, no real news on the next book that I've found ... anyone have an update?

No, there's nothing out there. The most you get is Martin commenting on finishing some chapter or re-writing some other chapter or something like that.

kurtism · 03-03-2011, 09:04 AM

A Dance with Dragons Comes Out on July 12th, 2011 - Topless Robot

Honolulu_Blue · 03-03-2011, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurtism

A Dance with Dragons Comes Out on July 12th, 2011 - Topless Robot

SWEET!!

MrBug708 · 03-03-2011, 10:03 AM

Awesome. I hope it's HBO pressure

wade moore · 03-03-2011, 10:26 AM

Argh, not on Amazon pre-order yet

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Chief Rum · 03-03-2011, 10:27 AM

Am I paranoid when I say that I'll believe it when the living tome is in my hands?

JAG · 03-03-2011, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Am I paranoid when I say that I'll believe it when the living tome is in my hands?

I think it means you're a long-time follower of this series.

Chief Rum · 03-03-2011, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

I think it means you're a long-time follower of this series.

By my thinking, we get one book per President. Storm of Swords (or whatever Book 3 was, I get the titles of 2 and 3 confused after this long) came out during the Clinton administration, A Feast For Crows came out during Bush, and now Dance of the Dragons during Obama.

Just one more reason to vote against Obama in the next election.

Schmidty · 03-03-2011, 12:09 PM

I honestly don't believe it unless I see it from the source.

Honolulu_Blue · 03-03-2011, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty

I honestly don't believe it unless I see it from the source.

Seek and ye shall find, Sparty.

Not A Blog

Update - A Song of Ice and Fire - George R. R. Martin's Official Website

ISiddiqui · 03-03-2011, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JAG

I think it means you're a long-time follower of this series.

Indeed. Fool me once...

Schmidty · 03-03-2011, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Seek and ye shall find, Sparty.

Not A Blog

Update - A Song of Ice and Fire - George R. R. Martin's Official Website

I still refuse to believe it until I feel it in my hands.

And the new cover sucks.

ISiddiqui · 03-03-2011, 12:27 PM

From his "Update":

Quote:

No. Sorry. Not done yet.

I'm close, though. Watch this space. When the book is done, you will read it here.

Meanwhile... there is news. Big news. The end is in sight, at long long last, and we're close enough so that my editors and publishers at Bantam Spectra have set an actual publication date.

He just wants me to be sad.

sachmo71 · 03-03-2011, 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBug708

Awesome. I hope it's HBO pressure

No question. If he were to miss this date and not take advantage of the initial groundswell of popularity, he would miss out on some serious hardcover sales.

Arles · 03-03-2011, 01:57 PM

I'm looking forward to this on HBO. Have any of you guys checked out Camelot on 101/Encore? I DVRed it and watched it last night. It was pretty solid.

bronconick · 03-03-2011, 02:40 PM

Huh. Probably getting it from the library. Whenever it actually comes out, which like everyone else, I'll believe it when it's sitting on a shelf.

Peregrine · 03-03-2011, 08:37 PM

New trailer as well.

Autumn · 03-06-2011, 08:34 AM

Okay, I just realized something which probably was obvious to everyone, but for some reason never occurred to me until re-reading the first book. Thoughts for those who have read all the books in the spoiler.

Spoiler

terpkristin · 03-06-2011, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

Okay, I just realized something which probably was obvious to everyone, but for some reason never occurred to me until re-reading the first book. Thoughts for those who have read all the books in the spoiler.

Spoiler

/tk

GrantDawg · 03-06-2011, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terpkristin

Spoiler

/tk

Yup. With the one who held her.

kurtism · 03-06-2011, 06:42 PM

Amazon.com: A Dance with Dragons (Song of Ice and Fire) (9780553801477): George R.R. Martin: Books

TargetPractice6 · 03-06-2011, 07:01 PM

1008 pages!

Honolulu_Blue · 03-06-2011, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn

Okay, I just realized something which probably was obvious to everyone, but for some reason never occurred to me until re-reading the first book. Thoughts for those who have read all the books in the spoiler.

Spoiler

3ric · 03-09-2011, 09:45 AM

Oh, cool - Amazon.co.uk just sent me an update concerning my "Dance of Dragons" pre-order I've had since October 2009. Good to know it's still in the system.

Chief Rum · 03-09-2011, 09:57 AM

Not sure if anyone else has this, but right around holiday shopping, I found a A Song of Ice and Fire series 2011 calendar, with artistic renderings of 12 of the different castles in the series. Pretty cool. January was Winterfell and February was Storm's End. This month is my favorite so far, The Aerie. It looks bad ass. I am actually avoiding looking ahead so I can enjoy each new one each month.

Honolulu_Blue · 03-09-2011, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Not sure if anyone else has this, but right around holiday shopping, I found a A Song of Ice and Fire series 2011 calendar, with artistic renderings of 12 of the different castles in the series. Pretty cool. January was Winterfell and February was Storm's End. This month is my favorite so far, The Aerie. It looks bad ass. I am actually avoiding looking ahead so I can enjoy each new one each month.

It's a pretty sweet calendar. I have it. I still lament the travesty that was the 2010 calendar. It looked like it really had some excellent art work.

MrBug708 · 03-14-2011, 02:46 PM

MrBug708 · 03-14-2011, 02:51 PM

cougarfreak · 03-14-2011, 04:22 PM

The more I see these, the more I think I'll be ordering HBO just to watch it.

DaddyTorgo · 04-27-2011, 01:18 PM

News today.

DWD just might be done.

GRRM posted a dead King Kong (which apparently is his metaphor for the book) on his blog earlier.

Chief Rum · 04-27-2011, 01:58 PM

Awesome! Hoping that's for real.

terpkristin · 04-27-2011, 02:16 PM

Not A Blog - twas beauty...

Yes, it IS done. Really. « Suvudu - Science Fiction and Fantasy Books, Movies, Comics, and Games

/tk

cschex · 04-27-2011, 02:41 PM

As much as I've enjoyed the TV show, nothing is going to compare to having DWD in my hands in mid-July. Awesome news!

JAG · 04-27-2011, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

Awesome! Hoping that's for real.

Again summing up my thoughts nicely. Looking forward to savoring Book 5.

12-31-2010, 04:14 PM	#954
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Dola, I read all 4 books over a week and a half period - Christmas break is helpful, as is being sick. Wow. So many thoughts, but here is some of what I think: Spoiler - It seems clear to me that Pate is Jaqen D'har. For what purpose? Is magic rising again in Westeros? - Arya Stark is not blind - its part of the Faceless Men training - Sansa / Alayne is ... growing on me. Is she Littlefinger's protege? - Cersei turned into a complete fool - in book 1 I thought her a master manipulator, and here I think her a complete cartoonish idiot surrounded by sycophants. Is Martin suggesting that none of these people are as smart as they think they are? - Catelyn Stark should have stayed dead - The Prince of Dorne fascinates me - here, I see an interesting character. Last edited by Crapshoot : 12-31-2010 at 04:14 PM.

01-01-2011, 02:00 AM	#957
ISiddiqui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Decatur, GA	She was just someone who thought she was a master manipulator, but nothing really stood out to me either. __________________ "A prayer for the wild at heart, kept in cages" -Tennessee Williams

01-01-2011, 01:31 PM	#958
3ric College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Sweden	Yes, Cersei is truly someone who believes she's smarter than she really is. It just became more obvious in her POV chapters. __________________ San Diego Chargers (HFL) - Lappland Reindeers (WOOF) - Gothenburg Giants (IHOF) Indiana: A TCY VC - year 2044 - the longest running dynasty ever on FOFC!

01-10-2011, 09:22 AM	#960
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	HBO has announced that "Game of Thrones" will start on Sunday April 17. They also released a bunch of new stills: HBO - Making Game of Thrones __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

01-17-2011, 10:45 AM	#962
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	Here is a link to the latest trailer for the HBO show. (Sorry, I can't seem to embed video. I've tried many times.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ5p18wIQEI It looks super sweet. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

12-16-2010, 10:16 AM	#951
Bad-example College Starter Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: san jose CA	The previews look great. I have extremely high expectations for this. Can't...friggin'...wait. Don't really like the casting for The Hound or Jon Snow.

12-22-2010, 04:57 PM	#952
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Watching Larry King sign off of his TV made me think that he'd play an excellent Walder Frey

12-31-2010, 05:45 PM	#955
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Your fourth point was interesting as I am re-reading the fourth book. Kevan Lannister flat out told Cersei that she wasn't her father and that he was going him. She never thought he would actually turn down her offer of the King's Hand. She slowly learned that all of her "power" stemmed from being the daughter of Tywin, the mother of the "King's Children" and somewhat of Jaime's sister. People did things solely for that, not of any respect of who she actually was.

12-31-2010, 08:16 PM	#956
TargetPractice6 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lexington, KY	I don't think I ever saw Cersei as a master manipulator in the first place. She pretty much had Sansa fall into her lap and confess all of her father's plans in AGoT. She was also botching things up enough that Tywin had to send Tyrion to reign her and Joffrey in. I don't think her character changed so much as we got to see more of her once she became a pointer of view character in AFfC.

01-01-2011, 01:33 PM	#959
Crapshoot Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Dec 2003	Right, I'm saying that in AGOT, that wasn't obvious at all but once we saw her POV, we saw that wasn't capable of playing with the big boys (aka, her Father). At this point, Prince Dorne / Littlefinger / Varys seem like the most "manipulative" characters.

01-10-2011, 09:28 AM	#961
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Woot!

01-17-2011, 12:26 PM	#963
cougarfreak College Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Out of Grad School Hell :)	Any idea how many episodes it will be? __________________ “I don’t like the Cubs,” Joey Votto said. “And I’m not going to pat anybody with a Cubs uniform on the back."

02-19-2011, 09:46 AM	#965
Edward64 Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2005	Been seeing the GOT trailers ... really excited about this one, ready for Apr to see if its any good (it has to be!). Will have to get the blu-ray verison for Christmas. Been checking GRRM's website now and then, no real news on the next book that I've found ... anyone have an update? Last edited by Edward64 : 02-19-2011 at 09:46 AM.

02-19-2011, 10:31 AM	#966
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier

03-03-2011, 09:04 AM	#968
kurtism High School Varsity Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Noblesville	A Dance with Dragons Comes Out on July 12th, 2011 - Topless Robot

03-03-2011, 10:03 AM	#970
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Awesome. I hope it's HBO pressure

03-03-2011, 10:27 AM	#972
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Am I paranoid when I say that I'll believe it when the living tome is in my hands? __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

03-03-2011, 12:09 PM	#975
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	I honestly don't believe it unless I see it from the source. __________________ Just beat the devil out of it!!! - Bob Ross

03-03-2011, 01:57 PM	#981
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	I'm looking forward to this on HBO. Have any of you guys checked out Camelot on 101/Encore? I DVRed it and watched it last night. It was pretty solid. __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

03-03-2011, 02:40 PM	#982
bronconick College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI	Huh. Probably getting it from the library. Whenever it actually comes out, which like everyone else, I'll believe it when it's sitting on a shelf.

03-03-2011, 08:37 PM	#983
Peregrine Pro Starter Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Cary, NC	New trailer as well.

03-06-2011, 08:34 AM	#984
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Okay, I just realized something which probably was obvious to everyone, but for some reason never occurred to me until re-reading the first book. Thoughts for those who have read all the books in the spoiler. Spoiler So, a lot of the later books deal with Melisandre and her attempt to get Stannis to fulfill the prophecies of her Lord of Light. In particular she tells him that he must sacrifice the blood of a king in a fire in order to awake the stone dragons, or to forge the sword of fire, right? Something along those lines. It occurred to me now that her prophecies are exactly correct, she just doesn't realize it already happened. Daenerys has already fulfilled them, burning the body of Khal Drogo in a fire with her dragon eggs, which were seemingly turned to stone, and awakening the dragons. Her dragons are the prophesied sword of fire, and those prophecies were already fulfilled, to the letter really. Just dawned on me.

03-06-2011, 06:42 PM	#987
kurtism High School Varsity Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Noblesville	Amazon.com: A Dance with Dragons (Song of Ice and Fire) (9780553801477): George R.R. Martin: Books

03-06-2011, 07:01 PM	#988
TargetPractice6 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lexington, KY	1008 pages!

03-09-2011, 09:45 AM	#990
3ric College Starter Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Sweden	Oh, cool - Amazon.co.uk just sent me an update concerning my "Dance of Dragons" pre-order I've had since October 2009. Good to know it's still in the system. __________________ San Diego Chargers (HFL) - Lappland Reindeers (WOOF) - Gothenburg Giants (IHOF) Indiana: A TCY VC - year 2044 - the longest running dynasty ever on FOFC!

03-09-2011, 09:57 AM	#991
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Not sure if anyone else has this, but right around holiday shopping, I found a A Song of Ice and Fire series 2011 calendar, with artistic renderings of 12 of the different castles in the series. Pretty cool. January was Winterfell and February was Storm's End. This month is my favorite so far, The Aerie. It looks bad ass. I am actually avoiding looking ahead so I can enjoy each new one each month. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready. Last edited by Chief Rum : 03-09-2011 at 09:58 AM.

03-14-2011, 02:46 PM	#993
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier

03-14-2011, 02:51 PM	#994
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier

03-14-2011, 04:22 PM	#995
cougarfreak College Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Out of Grad School Hell :)	The more I see these, the more I think I'll be ordering HBO just to watch it. __________________ “I don’t like the Cubs,” Joey Votto said. “And I’m not going to pat anybody with a Cubs uniform on the back."

04-27-2011, 01:18 PM	#996
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	News today. DWD just might be done. GRRM posted a dead King Kong (which apparently is his metaphor for the book) on his blog earlier.

04-27-2011, 01:58 PM	#997
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	Awesome! Hoping that's for real. __________________ . . I would rather be wrong...Than live in the shadows of your song...My mind is open wide...And now I'm ready to start...You're not sure...You open the door...And step out into the dark...Now I'm ready.

04-27-2011, 02:16 PM	#998
terpkristin Grizzled Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ashburn, VA	Not A Blog - twas beauty... Yes, it IS done. Really. « Suvudu - Science Fiction and Fantasy Books, Movies, Comics, and Games /tk __________________ GO TERPS! https://www.flickr.com/photos/terpkristin https://twitter.com/terpkristin

04-27-2011, 02:41 PM	#999
cschex High School Varsity Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Austin, TX	As much as I've enjoyed the TV show, nothing is going to compare to having DWD in my hands in mid-July. Awesome news!

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