The Biden Presidency - 2020

[bronconick]

Originally Posted by cartman

This administration did not divert money from the FEMA relief funds to use on immigrants. But there was another administration that did.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/imm...order-n1046691

Every accusation is a confession.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

They did go on record. There's plenty of quotes out there from House GOPers saying they won't increase FEMA funding. Funding bills start in the House and the President doesn't have the power to just make them vote on everything he wants.

He didn't formally propose it. He didn't declare it as emergency spending. He didn't spend months promoting it to the media and taking an hour in prime time to sell it to the publc. He didn't offer up Trump's immigration bill in return for its passage. He did do that with the foreign aid bill.

It's not all his fault but he did choose which spending was more important. It's fair to question why he cared more about bombing an orphanage halfway around the globe as opposed to making sure there was enough disaster relief and kids could eat in this country.

[JPhillips]

How exactly does that all work during the summer? Biden is willing to shut down the government over FEMA funds when there aren't any major disasters? He calls a prime time address to discuss FEMA funding when maybe 1% of the country gives a shit about it?

[RainMaker]

If no one cares about FEMA funds, there is nothing to be upset about. I'm just saying that when you prioritize spending for foreign countries over your own, don't be upset if people get mad about it.

[RainMaker]

There was some other stuff in the plan like money for child care, substance abuse programs, and access to the internet for low income families. Sure it's not as important as drone striking the World Central Kitchen, but I think would have been worth putting some effort into.

[JPhillips]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

If no one cares about FEMA funds, there is nothing to be upset about. I'm just saying that when you prioritize spending for foreign countries over your own, don't be upset if people get mad about it.

It's always the same disingenuous nonsense.

If only something had happened between summer and now that would make FEMA funds more important and more politically expedient.

[Dutch]

Blinken announces USA will send $156 million to Lebanon for their disaster of a state that allows Hezbollah to shoot thousands of rockets at Israeli farmers, women and kids because Hezbollah’s allies down south started a war by targeting, raping and killing thousands of Jewish kids.

Meanwhile, OUR allies literally wouldn’t mind if we transferred that money to FEMA instead since Mayokras said his agency is broke.

I know what you’re going to say already. Let me give it a go. ABC News will report that this money will save many lives in Beirut and they will gush over Blinken for looking out for Lebanese families in need. CBS News will say the move is ‘heroic’ though they will acknowledged they’re not sure why, exactly, NBC News will blast Trump for not sending that money 6 years ago, and MSNBC will say something about how helping people in North Carolina is a threat to democracy.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by JPhillips

It's always the same disingenuous nonsense.

If only something had happened between summer and now that would make FEMA funds more important and more politically expedient.

Who could have predicted a hurricane hitting the United States?

[cuervo72]

Well, that’s it then I guess. No money for anything until every last house is rebuilt!

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by Dutch

Blinken announces USA will send $156 million to Lebanon for their disaster of a state that allows Hezbollah to shoot thousands of rockets at Israeli farmers, women and kids because Hezbollah’s allies down south started a war by targeting, raping and killing thousands of Jewish kids.

The people targeting, raping, and killing kids aren't Hezbollah. And by farmers, you mean illegal settlers (which is where they are lobbing missiles at).

I wonder why Lebanon is such a disaster. It's almost like an ethnostate to the South keeps invading them every decade. Should really look into that.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Should really look into that.

Can you please give a short biased report on that? I'm sure we're all looking forward to that.

[cuervo72]

It’s an oversimplification, but there were about thirty years where Syria occupied half the country, and 20 years where Israel occupied another half of the country. So yeah, Lebanon hasn’t exactly had an easy time of things.

[RainMaker]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Can you please give a short biased report on that? I'm sure we're all looking forward to that.

Israel has invaded Lebanon like 4 or 5 times in the past 50 years. It even occupied a chunk of its land for like 20 years. They created a doctrine where they intentionally target civilians (Dahiya doctrine, look it up). Even Reagan thought what they were doing was too fucked up to support.

All stuff you can look up to confirm.

[Edward64]

Originally Posted by RainMaker

Israel has invaded Lebanon like 4 or 5 times in the past 50 years. It even occupied a chunk of its land for like 20 years. They created a doctrine where they intentionally target civilians (Dahiya doctrine, look it up). Even Reagan thought what they were doing was too fucked up to support.

All stuff you can look up to confirm.

Specific to Dahiya, see below wiki

In other words, it intentionally targets civilian infrastructure and not civilians. And it does that because Israel believes the baddies are hiding themselves/weapons in/under/near the civilian infrastructures.

If Hamas/Hezbollah is so worried about it, the answer is for them stop using civilian infrastructures to hide, keep hostages, launch attacks etc.

Dahiya doctrine - Wikipedia

The Dahiya doctrine, or Dahya doctrine,[1] is an Israeli military strategy involving the large-scale destruction of civilian infrastructure, or domicide, to pressure hostile governments.[2] The doctrine was outlined by former Israel Defense Forces (IDF) Chief of General Staff Gadi Eizenkot. Israel colonel Gabi Siboni wrote that Israel "should target economic interests and the centers of civilian power that support the organization".[3] The logic is to harm the civilian population so much that they will then turn against the militants, forcing the enemy to sue for peace.[3][4]

A little more context

What happened in the Dahieh quarter of Beirut in 2006 will happen in every village from which shots will be fired in the direction of Israel. We will wield disproportionate power and cause immense damage and destruction. From our perspective, these are military bases. [...] This isn't a suggestion. It's a plan that has already been authorized. [...] Every one of the Shiite villages is a military site, with headquarters, an intelligence center, and a communications center. Dozens of rockets are buried in houses, basements, attics, and the village is run by Hezbollah men. In each village, according to its size, there are dozens of active members, the local residents, and alongside them fighters from outside, and everything is prepared and planned both for a defensive battle and for firing missiles at Israel.