Obama versus McCain (versus the rest)

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Greyroofoo

Wow, McCain seems quick with the concession speech

It's because it is 3 hours past his bedtime

[BYU 14]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

classy speech by McCain here I gotta say. kudos

Agreed, extremely classy, I definitely respect him, just couldn't give him my vote.

[Noop]

I see he gave Palin the rub.

[mauchow]

+3 million pop vote now.

[DaddyTorgo]

classy republicans booing

[fantom1979]

Great speech McCain. Nice work.... the people in the crowd on the other hand.... very disappointing.

[JonInMiddleGA]

Okay, I'd say it's as official as it gets until January so I'll sum it up.

Without question, it's the darkest day in our nation's history, no pun particularly intended. The lowest point we ever descended to, and perhaps the first time I've truly been ashamed to be an American. We have no one to blame but ourselves for it ultimately, decades upon decades of mistakes & missteps all leading to this moment.

While I believe a good bit of the blame rightfully rests at the feet of those who came before us, I can't deny that this ultimately happened on our watch. We allowed the utterly clueless to put the equally clueless in charge and barring a miracle, or even a series of miracles, we'll never reach or even approach greatness again. Mediocrity, or much much worse, is officially the new standard and that isn't something that's easily overcome because the reality is that mediocre regenerates faster than greatness.

It's sad, but it is what it is. Defeated and without any reasonable degree of hope, all that's left is to fight to the end & deny the enemy as much of the spoils as possible. Maybe there's at least enough backbone left to do a decent job of that.

That's about all the emotion you're likely to get out of me tonight, subpar rant though it may be, I'm simply too sad to do rage very well. And I'm not planning to deny myself whatever pleasure I might find in playing with the numbers, screwing around with the hypotheticals, and fantasizing about the scenarios in which we might manage to survive this disaster but (to the disappointment of my liberal friends I'm sure) I definitely won't be holding my breath for them to take place. I'll just get what good I can get from it & leave the rest.

[Flasch186]

me too, Arles, me too.

[MrDNA]

This crowd really is pretty crappy.

[sabotai]

Originally Posted by Noop

I see he gave Palin the rub.

I bet he did!!!! Ba-ZING!

[Karlifornia]

McCain did pretty well, considering the Chevy Yugo he had to try and sell.

[lordscarlet]

OK, Wade and I were just discussing this. The Virginia Republican party made a huge mistake when they chose to have a nominating convention to choose their Senatorial candidate rather than a primary. Tom Davis would have been a far superior candidate over Jim Gilmore.

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

I like McCain. I feel bad for him.

A friend and I were talking about this on AIM. We just feel bad for him. He had such awful handlers and a bad running mate. He deserved a better fate.

SI

[Cringer]

You can tell it's a small group of idiots who are booing. It is not everyone there. Still idiots though.

[Tigercat]

Obama making a comeback in North Carolina, down only by a few thousand. He still leads in Indiana, but only by less than 2k. The quest for 360-370ish?

Howard Dean is a genius.

[MrDNA]

Jon, is that you booing on my TV?

"the darkest day in our nation's history" Get a grip, man.

[BishopMVP]

The Crimson Tide song? Fucking fantastic.

[mauchow]

Will we hear of Palin anymore?

[Groundhog]

Yeah, I may be glad Obama got in, but that was a pretty nice speech. Certainly raised my respect levels for the man.

[Karlifornia]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Okay, I'd say it's as official as it gets until January so I'll sum it up.

Without question, it's the darkest day in our nation's history, no pun particularly intended. The lowest point we ever descended to, and perhaps the first time I've truly been ashamed to be an American. We have no one to blame but ourselves for it ultimately, decades upon decades of mistakes & missteps all leading to this moment.

While I believe a good bit of the blame rightfully rests at the feet of those who came before us, I can't deny that this ultimately happened on our watch. We allowed the utterly clueless to put the equally clueless in charge and barring a miracle, or even a series of miracles, we'll never reach or even approach greatness again. Mediocrity, or much much worse, is officially the new standard and that isn't something that's easily overcome because the reality is that mediocre regenerates faster than greatness.

It's sad, but it is what it is. Defeated and without any reasonable degree of hope, all that's left is to fight to the end & deny the enemy as much of the spoils as possible. Maybe there's at least enough backbone left to do a decent job of that.

That's about all the emotion you're likely to get out of me tonight, subpar rant though it may be, I'm simply too sad to do rage very well. And I'm not planning to deny myself whatever pleasure I might find in playing with the numbers, screwing around with the hypotheticals, and fantasizing about the scenarios in which we might manage to survive this disaster but (to the disappointment of my liberal friends I'm sure) I definitely won't be holding my breath for them to take place. I'll just get what good I can get from it & leave the rest.

[TheOhioStateUniversity]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Without question, it's the darkest day in our nation's history, no pun particularly intended.

...wow

[sterlingice]

Oh, and Bartlett Pears! Bartlett Pears! Bartlett Pears! (Colbert Report joke for those who don't get it)

SI

[Groundhog]

JiMGA, you are exaggerating beyond belief. You may not be happy with who got the presidency, but I'm willing to bet that your life will not nearly be so adversely affected by it as you seem to think.

[Mustang]

Originally Posted by Arles

Yeah, this is a nice moment for the country. I think Obama is a good person and will try to be a good leader. I hope he succeeds.

Hopefully the expectations aren't ridiculously out of line. Lots of things to work on so, hopefully people dont' expect everything to change overnight. (Or the flip side that he feels pressure to do everything overnight and does things too fast or haphazardly)

[Lathum]

put me in the camp of classy speech from McCain with a few morons sprinkled in

[wade moore]

Whatever your political stance is you have to recognize that this is a big moment in US history. I hope it will help us to move to the point where race (or sex for that matter) can take a back seat in future elections.

[Swaggs]

Well, the bar seems to be set pretty low for Obama among the JiMGs of the world, so it shouldn't be too hard for Obama to win him over by 2012.

[Noop]

Originally Posted by wade moore

Whatever your political stance is you have to recognize that this is a big moment in US history. I hope it will help us to move to the point where race (or sex for that matter) can take a back seat in future elections.

+1

[lordscarlet]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Okay, I'd say it's as official as it gets until January so I'll sum it up.

Without question, it's the darkest day in our nation's history, no pun particularly intended. The lowest point we ever descended to, and perhaps the first time I've truly been ashamed to be an American. We have no one to blame but ourselves for it ultimately, decades upon decades of mistakes & missteps all leading to this moment.

While I believe a good bit of the blame rightfully rests at the feet of those who came before us, I can't deny that this ultimately happened on our watch. We allowed the utterly clueless to put the equally clueless in charge and barring a miracle, or even a series of miracles, we'll never reach or even approach greatness again. Mediocrity, or much much worse, is officially the new standard and that isn't something that's easily overcome because the reality is that mediocre regenerates faster than greatness.

It's sad, but it is what it is. Defeated and without any reasonable degree of hope, all that's left is to fight to the end & deny the enemy as much of the spoils as possible. Maybe there's at least enough backbone left to do a decent job of that.

That's about all the emotion you're likely to get out of me tonight, subpar rant though it may be, I'm simply too sad to do rage very well. And I'm not planning to deny myself whatever pleasure I might find in playing with the numbers, screwing around with the hypotheticals, and fantasizing about the scenarios in which we might manage to survive this disaster but (to the disappointment of my liberal friends I'm sure) I definitely won't be holding my breath for them to take place. I'll just get what good I can get from it & leave the rest.

Sounds similar to how Democrats felt in 2000 and 2004; and that's pretty much what happened.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Without question, it's the darkest day in our nation's history

dude...get a grip. 9/11? Pearl Harbor? There's plenty of better candidates for the darkest day.

if you want to say it's the darkest day in the history of the republican party you could MAYBE make an argument for that i suppose, but darkest day in our nation's history is pure hyperbole and grandstanding for attention and a response

[Greyroofoo]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Okay, I'd say it's as official as it gets until January so I'll sum it up.

Without question, it's the darkest day in our nation's history, no pun particularly intended. The lowest point we ever descended to, and perhaps the first time I've truly been ashamed to be an American. We have no one to blame but ourselves for it ultimately, decades upon decades of mistakes & missteps all leading to this moment.

While I believe a good bit of the blame rightfully rests at the feet of those who came before us, I can't deny that this ultimately happened on our watch. We allowed the utterly clueless to put the equally clueless in charge and barring a miracle, or even a series of miracles, we'll never reach or even approach greatness again. Mediocrity, or much much worse, is officially the new standard and that isn't something that's easily overcome because the reality is that mediocre regenerates faster than greatness.

It's sad, but it is what it is. Defeated and without any reasonable degree of hope, all that's left is to fight to the end & deny the enemy as much of the spoils as possible. Maybe there's at least enough backbone left to do a decent job of that.

That's about all the emotion you're likely to get out of me tonight, subpar rant though it may be, I'm simply too sad to do rage very well. And I'm not planning to deny myself whatever pleasure I might find in playing with the numbers, screwing around with the hypotheticals, and fantasizing about the scenarios in which we might manage to survive this disaster but (to the disappointment of my liberal friends I'm sure) I definitely won't be holding my breath for them to take place. I'll just get what good I can get from it & leave the rest.

Amazing, I had the same thoughts in 2000/2004

edit: Damn you lordscarlet!

[JonInMiddleGA]

Originally Posted by lordscarlet

What the hell is wrong with these people?

Umm ... they don't particularly like the worthless SOB that McCain just referred to? Seems to me that would be pretty obvious, not sure why that is bewildering.

[mauchow]

no chance for filibuster proof now, right?

[Noop]

Jon you can always move to another country like France for instance. Or some other European country that doesn't have a 'dark' leader.

[cartman]

Darkest day is US History?

[DeToxRox]

Jon don't you have a Militia that needs to kick it into gear?

[SirFozzie]

Now I just have to hope and pray 8 goes down

[Groundhog]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Umm ... they don't particularly like the worthless SOB that McCain just referred to? Seems to me that would be pretty obvious, not sure why that is bewildering.

Can someone who paid attention over the past 100-odd pages of this thread give me a quick rundown on what exactly JiMGA despises so much about Obama?

[mauchow]

Obama increases big lead in NC now. Wow.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Umm ... they don't particularly like the worthless SOB that McCain just referred to? Seems to me that would be pretty obvious, not sure why that is bewildering.

that would be the SOB who beat McCain - which makes him what...less than worthless?

[sterlingice]

Originally Posted by MrDNA

Jon, is that you booing on my TV?

"the darkest day in our nation's history" Get a grip, man.

You don't get it. Jon isn't one of those guys in the crowd booing. Read what he wrote- that's not what he's saying. I strongly disagree with his sentiments but it's not as if he's shallowly just dismissing this.

SI

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

no chance for filibuster proof now, right?

Depends on whether or not Franken beats Coleman in MN and Chambliss gets over 50% tonight (if not, there will be a highly contested run-off).

Alaska and Oregon also have somewhat contested races, but they will likely both break for the Dems.

[KWhit]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Okay, I'd say it's as official as it gets until January so I'll sum it up.

Without question, it's the darkest day in our nation's history, no pun particularly intended. The lowest point we ever descended to, and perhaps the first time I've truly been ashamed to be an American. We have no one to blame but ourselves for it ultimately, decades upon decades of mistakes & missteps all leading to this moment.

While I believe a good bit of the blame rightfully rests at the feet of those who came before us, I can't deny that this ultimately happened on our watch. We allowed the utterly clueless to put the equally clueless in charge and barring a miracle, or even a series of miracles, we'll never reach or even approach greatness again. Mediocrity, or much much worse, is officially the new standard and that isn't something that's easily overcome because the reality is that mediocre regenerates faster than greatness.

It's sad, but it is what it is. Defeated and without any reasonable degree of hope, all that's left is to fight to the end & deny the enemy as much of the spoils as possible. Maybe there's at least enough backbone left to do a decent job of that.

That's about all the emotion you're likely to get out of me tonight, subpar rant though it may be, I'm simply too sad to do rage very well. And I'm not planning to deny myself whatever pleasure I might find in playing with the numbers, screwing around with the hypotheticals, and fantasizing about the scenarios in which we might manage to survive this disaster but (to the disappointment of my liberal friends I'm sure) I definitely won't be holding my breath for them to take place. I'll just get what good I can get from it & leave the rest.

You've made some ridiculous posts over the years here, but I think this one may take the cake.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by DeToxRox

Jon don't you have a Militia that needs to kick it into gear?

i think it's pretty easy for them to cut eye-holes in white sheets

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Okay, I'd say it's as official as it gets until January so I'll sum it up.

Without question, it's the darkest day in our nation's history, no pun particularly intended. The lowest point we ever descended to, and perhaps the first time I've truly been ashamed to be an American. We have no one to blame but ourselves for it ultimately, decades upon decades of mistakes & missteps all leading to this moment.

While I believe a good bit of the blame rightfully rests at the feet of those who came before us, I can't deny that this ultimately happened on our watch. We allowed the utterly clueless to put the equally clueless in charge and barring a miracle, or even a series of miracles, we'll never reach or even approach greatness again. Mediocrity, or much much worse, is officially the new standard and that isn't something that's easily overcome because the reality is that mediocre regenerates faster than greatness.

It's sad, but it is what it is. Defeated and without any reasonable degree of hope, all that's left is to fight to the end & deny the enemy as much of the spoils as possible. Maybe there's at least enough backbone left to do a decent job of that.

That's about all the emotion you're likely to get out of me tonight, subpar rant though it may be, I'm simply too sad to do rage very well. And I'm not planning to deny myself whatever pleasure I might find in playing with the numbers, screwing around with the hypotheticals, and fantasizing about the scenarios in which we might manage to survive this disaster but (to the disappointment of my liberal friends I'm sure) I definitely won't be holding my breath for them to take place. I'll just get what good I can get from it & leave the rest.

CLiMGA.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Groundhog

Can someone who paid attention over the past 100-odd pages of this thread give me a quick rundown on what exactly JiMGA despises so much about Obama?

my guess is that he is black

[Swaggs]

MSNBC calls Nevada for Obama.

Up to 338 EVs now.

[lordscarlet]

Originally Posted by Cringer

You can tell it's a small group of idiots who are booing. It is not everyone there. Still idiots though.

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA

Umm ... they don't particularly like the worthless SOB that McCain just referred to? Seems to me that would be pretty obvious, not sure why that is bewildering.

For someone that I believe would feel that respect is an important virtue, continually booing someone you dislike like (I really am containing just throwing out vitriol at the "worthless SOB" comment, particularly with what the Republican party has given us for the last 8 years). I don't recall hearing this from Democrats in 2000 and 2004 and they thought Bush was worthless. There really are not enough 4 letter words to describe the type of person you have proven yourself to be throughout the latter days of this campaign.

[SirFozzie]

Guys, that's unworthy. For Jon's faults to me, I can't see him as a racist. Come on. Call him on what he does that's wrong, but let's not invent things.

[Groundhog]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

i think it's pretty easy for them to cut eye-holes in white sheets

LOL