10-27-2009, 08:14 PM | #1001 |
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I would rather have verification than a preservation of that power.
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The only reason I could conceive of a fake reveal there is if Lathum is the brutal so that they could take out PB and the real duke without threat of a BG block.
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10-27-2009, 08:17 PM | #1004 |
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10-27-2009, 08:19 PM | #1007 |
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And look, that might be a style of play. I realize that dukes can turn the game around with a good pick but more often than not we're taking out another villager. If Lathum felt that strongly about Hoops, I would've just have him prove it. But I do agree with the fake reveal posts, so I understand that as well. I'm asking for unnecessary verification, particularly when I have none, I understand that, but just prefer to be 110% sure.
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10-27-2009, 08:20 PM | #1008 |
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Heh...saw EagleFan was last post, and jumped back hoping to see results. Stupid long game the last time.
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10-27-2009, 08:22 PM | #1011 |
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Hehe, I would agree with you JAG.
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10-27-2009, 08:25 PM | #1012 | |
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I guess to play that out. Worst case 8-3-1 after tonight. Real duke to Lathum and he's brutal makes it 7-2-1. Night kill makes it 6-2-1. Doesn't seem to be the best play at all for a fake reveal there. |
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10-27-2009, 08:26 PM | #1014 |
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dola: I do agree with PB though, would have just felt better seeing the power being used (especially without an announcement prior to the deadline).
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"We must get our minds off of this right away, so that we can continue rooting out these fiends. Please, have some refreshments." No one really wants to eat at a time like this, but a little energy might be helpful, so grudgingly, you head to the snack table to discuss what to do and have some punch. After furious debate, someone speaks up and says, "Hi. I'm Daphne. I think you all know me. I really hope we get this right." Even though everyone really likes Daphne, you all still decide to make up your own minds. Your decision finally becomes clear - Johnny Lawrence must be a villain. Just as before, the police restrain Johnny Lawrence and place him in handcuffs. "You've all made a terrible mistake!!!", he says. But it's too late. His mask is yanked off, and you realize that you've made a mistake. This isn't a Monster, it's just hoopsguy. hoopsguy was a regular Party-goer.
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I waffled on whether or not I wanted proof of the power, but really JAG is right, if Lathum is lying he'll be duked tomorrow.
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Second part of this phase results is coming up. Might be a few, because I'm still distracted.
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Sorry hoops, that's pretty rotten luck about your last minute switch on D1.
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That stinks. I thought for sure he was a wolf.
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10-27-2009, 08:32 PM | #1023 |
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10-27-2009, 08:33 PM | #1024 |
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The question no is now to read the vote switches post reveal.
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Hoops would have made much more sense to kill on night one instead of Danny.
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I think there's more to glean from d1, d2, and pre-reveal d3 myself, unless Lathum turns up wolf after tomorrow's lynch. Assuming Lathum isn't a wolf making to me a very strange decision, then the wolves would know their vote wouldn't have meaning no matter where they were. Without seeing the NK yet or looking into the past three days with the added info, I have three main suspects I'm looking at going into d4. |
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Yup. Were it not for trying to save Lathuim's power, I would have stayed on ntndeacon. I was comfortable with my vote there over the other choice at that time (besides hoops) in JAG.
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After another disheartening result occurs, you are all in no mood to party, but Mr. Price, as usual, insists.
"Come along now my young friends. The mystery still isn't solved and this party isn't over. Our next game awaits!!" Mr. Price guides you a corner of the great hall you are in. Dangling from the immense ceiling is a huge paper mache' bat. It looks like it's time for a Halloween pinata!! One after another, everyone gets blind-folded and take a half-hearted swing, but even after almost a half hour, no one cracks it. Someone sits down and notices a note on a chair. It reads, "Now we have the nincompoop, Shaggy!!! Who's next?? Hahahahaha!!!". Looking around, you see that Stitch is gone. That must have been Shaggy. Ugh.
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It was only a matter of time, I suppose.
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At least I was proven as good.
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Day Three votes:
(774) Lathum votes hoopsguy (hoops 1) (777) hoopsguy votes Coffee Warlord (hoops 1 CW 1) (778) lerriuqs votes ntndeacon (hoops 1 CW 1 ntn 1) (801) Raiders Army votes hoopsguy (hoops 2 CW 1 ntn 1) (826) JAG votes hoopsguy (hoops 3 CW 1 ntn 1) (841) Coffee Warlord votes ntndeacon (hoops 3 ntn 2 CW 1) (849) ntndeacon votes Coffee Warlord (hoops 3 ntn 2 CW 2) (852) PurdueBrad votes JAG (hoops 3 ntn 2 CW 2 JAG 1) (857) Chief Rum votes Coffee Warlord (hoops 3 CW 3 ntn 2 JAG 1) (875) MartinD votes ntndeacon (hoops 3 CW 3 ntn 3 JAG 1) (892) Raiders Army unvotes hoopsguy, votes ntndeacon (ntn 4 CW 3 hoops 2 JAG 1) (903) KWhit votes JAG (ntn 4 CW 3 hoops 2 JAG 2) (904) The Jackal votes JAG (ntn 4 CW 3 JAG 3 hoops 2) (906) EagleFan votes hoopsguy (ntn 4 CW 3 JAG 3 hoops 3) (931) JAG unvotes hoopsguy, votes Coffee Warlord (ntn 4 CW 4 JAG 3 hoops 2) (942) Chief Rum unvotes Coffee Warlord, votes ntndeacon (ntn 5 CW 3 JAG 3 hoops 2) (944) GoldenEagle votes ntndeacon (ntn 6 CW 3 JAG 3 hoops 2) (954) JAG unvotes Coffee Warlord, votes hoopsguy (ntn 6 JAG 3 hoops 3 CW 2) (956) GoldenEagle unvotes ntndeacon, votes hoopsguy (ntn 5 hoops 4 JAG 3 CW 2) (970) PurdueBrad unvotes JAG, votes ntndeacon (ntn 6 hoops 4 JAG 2 CW 2) (971) The Jackal unvotes JAG, votes hoopsguy (ntn 6 hoops 5 CW 2 JAG 1) (972) Chief Rum unvotes ntndeacon, votes hoopsguy (hoops 6 ntn 5 CW 2 JAG 1) |
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Thanks, EF. One recommendation; stick the post when Lathum made his reveal in there somewhere, like with PB on Day One.
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Day 2 Voting History:
(536) Lathum votes Abe Sargent (AS 1) (538) ntndeacon votes Abe Sargent (AS 2) (541) EagleFan votes ntndeacon * invalid vote (568) lerriuqs votes Abe Sargent (AS 3) (569) Raiders Army votes ntndeacon (AS 3 ntn 1) (622) Chief Rum votes ntndeacon (AS 3 ntn 2) (628) Abe Sargent votes ntndeacon (AS 3 ntn 3) (631) Coffee Warlord votes ntndeacon (ntn 4 AS 3) (633) KWhit votes Coffee Warlord (ntn 4 AS 3 CW 1) (639) hoopsguy votes Abe Sargent (ntn 4 AS 4 CW 1) (650) MartinD votes Abe Sargent (AS 5 ntn 4 CW 1) (651) The Jackal votes Abe Sargent (AS 6 ntn 4 CW 1) (663) PurdueBrad votes ntndeacon (AS 6 ntn 5 CW 1) (665) EagleFan votes Abe Sargent (AS 7 ntn 5 CW 1) (666) J23 votes ntndeacon (AS 7 ntn 6 CW 1) (677) JAG votes Abe Sargent (AS 8 ntn 6 CW 1) (684) GoldenEagle votes ntndeacon (AS 8 ntn 7 CW 1) (694) PurdueBrad unvotes ntndeacon, votes Abe Sargent (AS 9 ntn 6 CW 1) Final vote: Abe Sargent 9 - Lathum (536), ntndeacon (538), lerriuqs (568), hoopsguy (639), MartunD (650), The Jackal (651), EagleFan (665), JAG (677), PurdueBrad (694) ntndeacon 6 - Raiders Army (569), Chief Rum (622), Abe Sargent (628), Coffee Warlord (631), J23 (666), GoldenEagle (684) Coffee Warlord 1 - KWhit (633) |
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Day One:
(73) Lathum votes Chief Rum (CR 1) (79) Lathum unvotes Chief Rum, votes EagleFan (EF 1) * invalid vote (87) Lathum unvoted EagleFan, votes Chief Rum (CR 1) (88) EagleFan votes Raiders Army (CR 1, RA 1) (96) Abe Sargent votes Lathum (CR 1, RA 1, Lathum 1) (99) Abe Sargent unvotes Lathum (CR 1, RA 1) (100) Abe Sargent votes Lathum (CR 1, RA, 1, Lathum 1) (121) hoopsguy votes Abe Sargent (CR 1, RA 1, Lathum 1, AS 1) (128) Abe Sargent unvotes Lathum, votes hoopsguy (CR 1, RA 1, AS 1, hoops 1) (136) Coffee Warlord votes KWhit (CR 1, RA 1, AS 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1) (140) JAG votes PurdueBrad (CR 1, RA 1, AS 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, PB 1) (141) PurdueBrad votes Abe Sargent (AS 2, CR 1, RA 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, PB 1) (153) Chief Rum votes GoldenEagle (AS 2, CR 1, RA 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, PB 1, GE 1) (157) MartinD votes PurdueBrad (AS 2, PB 2, CR 1, RA 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, GE 1) (158) ntndeacon votes Raiders Army (AS 2, PB 2, RA 2, CR 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, GE 1) (159) Raiders Army votes ntndeacon (AS 2, PB 2, RA 2, CR 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, GE 1, ntn 1) (162) J23 votes PurdueBrad (PB 3, AS 2, RA 2, CR 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, GE 1, ntn 1) (163) The Jackal votes Abe Sargent (PB 3, AS 3, RA 2, CR 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, GE 1, ntn 1) (164) lerriuqs votes Raiders Army (PB 3, AS 3, RA 3, CR 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, GE 1, ntn 1) (170) Chief Rum unvotes GoldenEagle, votes Abe Sargent (AS 4, PB 3, RA 3, CR 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, ntn 1) (185) Danny votes PurdueBrad (AS 4, PB 4, RA 3, CR 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, ntn 1) (192) Telle votes PurdueBrad (PB 5, AS 4, RA 3, CR 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, ntn 1) (195) ntndeacon unvotes Raiders Army, votes PurdueBrad (PB 6, AS 4, RA 2, CR 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, ntn 1) (198) Lathum unvotes Chief Rum, votes Abe Sargent (PB 6, AS 5, RA 2, hoops 1, KWhit 1, ntn 1) (199) lerriuqs unvotes Raiders Army, votes Abe Sargent (PB 6, AS 6, RA 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, ntn 1) (203) PurdueBrad unvotes Abe Sargent (PB 6, AS 5, RA 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, ntn 1) (210) GoldenEagle votes Abe Sargent (PB 6, AS 6, RA 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, ntn 1) (224) PurdueBrad votes Danny (PB 6, AS 6, RA 1, hoops 1, KWhit 1, ntn 1, Danny 1) (229) Abe Sargent unvotes hoopsguy, votes Danny (PB 6, AS 6, Danny 2, RA 1, KWhit 1, ntn 1) (233) Lathum unvotes Abe Sargent, votes Danny (PB 6, AS 5, Danny 3, RA 1, KWhit 1, ntn 1) (256) Coffee Warlord unvotes KWhit, votes Abe Sargent (PB 6, AS 6, Danny 3, RA 1, ntn 1) (282) KWhit votes PurdueBrad (PB 7, AS 6, Danny 3, RA 1, ntn 1) (286) Raiders Army unvotes ntndeacon, votes PurdueBrad (PB 8, AS 6, Danny 3, RA 1) (288) PurdueBrad reveals as Shaggy (290) Danny unvotes PurdueBrad (PB 7, AS 6, Danny 3, RA 1) (292) Danny votes Abe Sargent (PB 7, AS 7, Danny 3, RA 1) (306) Raiders Army unvotes PurdueBrad (AS 7, PB 6, Danny 3, RA 1) (307) ntndeacon unvotes PurdueBrad (AS 7, PB 5, Danny 3, RA 1) (318) Raiders Army votes Abe Sargent (AS 8, PB 5, Danny 3, RA 1) (324) J23 unvotes PurdueBrad (AS 8, PB 4, Danny 3, RA 1) (344) PurdueBrad unvotes Danny (AS 8, PB 4, Danny 2, RA 1) (346) PurdueBrad votes Telle (AS 8, PB 4, Danny 2, RA 1, Telle 1) (354) ntndeacon votes KWhit (AS 8, PB 4, Danny 2, RA 1, Telle 1, KWhit 1) (361) Danny unvotes Abe Sargent, votes Telle (AS 7, PB 4, Danny 2, Telle 2, RA 1, KWhit 1) (364) Raiders Army unvotes Abe Sargent, votes Telle (AS 6, PB 4, Telle 3, Danny 2, RA 1, KWhit 1) (370) Abe Sargent unvotes Danny, votes Telle (AS 6, PB 4, Telle 4, Danny 1, RA 1, KWhit 1) (372) Raiders Army unvotes Telle, votes ntndeacon (AS 6, PB 4, Telle 3, Danny 1, RA 1, KWhit 1, ntn 1) (377) ntndeacon unvotes KWhit, votes Telle (AS 6, PB 4, Telle 4, Danny 1, RA 1, ntn 1) (382) Raiders Army unvotes ntndeacon, votes Telle (AS 6, Telle 5, PB 4, Danny 1, RA 1) (385) hoopsguy unvotes Abe Sargent, votes Telle (Telle 6, AS 5, PB 4, Danny 1, RA 1) (387) Coffee Warlord unvotes Abe Sargent, votes Telle * after actual 8:59 mark, not counted (389) deadline posted by Schmidty (390) J23 votes Telle * vote late, not counted Final vote count: Telle 6 - PurdueBrad (346), Danny(361), Abe (370), ntndeacon (377), Raiders Army (382), hoopsguy (385) Abe Sargent 5 - The Jackal (163), Chief Rum (170), Lerruiqs (199), GoldenEagle (210), Coffee Warlord (256) PurdueBrad 4 - JAG (140), MartinD (157), Telle (192), KWhit (282) Raiders Army 1 - EagleFan (88) Danny 1 - Lathum (233) |
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With that all spelled out, it really stands out to me that ntndeacon and RA are the only two unknowns in the Day One run to lynch Telle (and save Abe...).
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Well phooey! I had thought hoops might be a villager...(or at least hoped it) since he defended me early as a villager. It sucks that Freddy couldn't stop them taking Shaggy.
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I personally would count CW in that group as well since he thought his vote counted at the end of day 1 when he switched. And I agree, I can't see a reason I wouldn't vote for one of ntn / RA / CW today because I can't believe that a wolf besides Abe wouldn't have switched to Telle at the end of day 1. |
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Wait a sec...are you revealing?
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If we believe MartinD than we have JAG and KWhit as he only unknown on PB day one. With 4 wolves and 1 cultist (convert?) I would think that the majority of them would be either on Telle or on PB.
That means that of ntn, RA, JAG and KWhit I think we have the best chance of finding a wolf as there are probably at least 2 in there. |
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Hoops? Why Hoops?
Ugh. Frustrating. He put a vote on Abe on day two that tied him with ntn. Unless you were assuming ntn was a wolf too, that is not a wolf move. Anyway, that's water under the bridge now. For today, I think I'll be looking at ntn or JAG. |
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Between RA and NTN, I still lean toward RA having the more suspicious voting history, but there is plenty to back going for NTN, too. Plus, with NTN, we make more sense of the votes on Days Two and Three. So I'm going to go there for now.
Today is a two job day for me, so I'll be getting my vote in now, and check in occasionally while here at the "computer job", but after 7 p.m. EST, I'll be incognito until past deadline. VOTE NTNDEACON
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