Werewolf CXXV - Vegas, Baby - VILLAGERS WIN

[Chief Rum]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Vote what you believe, not what's popular.

If you're talking about me, I voted what I believe.

If you're talking about yourself (as an explanation for the JAG vote), I can get that under normal circumstances, but this is far from normal--you're on the block, he has a healthy amount of trust, he has no votes, and other more suspicious players do have votes. There are a ton of reasons to not even consider voting for JAG in your situation.

And on top of that, his vote wasn't even on you.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by JAG

Pretty funny since I've really been all over Saldana today, much more so than you, who I basically mentioned only in passing. D3 I didn't vote for you at all. I joined a late run on you N2, all the other targets we know now are villagers, so I don't see how that looks bad. Meanwhile on both days you avoided voters who were on you to vote me, who you claim as having a vendetta against you.

I don't have a lot doubt about you two, but we'll just have to see how things shake out.

I dunno - maybe your posts just stick out to me then.

[DaddyTorgo]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

It's been discussed. It was a whole fishy idea though, Lathum sacrificing himself. Real villagers should've seen through it.

Disagree.

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Disagree.

Just way too easy of a route to go on day one, man. That's handing people money on a platter. We didn't know much at that point, but still, far too easy of a move for a wolf on day one, especially not knowing that bets could be revealed. We're 1/1 so far on that front. I don't think we'll be 4/4 (who else is there, DT, mckerney, and zinto, anyone else?), but the chances of there being at least one more wolf is very high.

[Chief Rum]

Even if it hadn't been discussed prior to my post, I laid out a pretty logical argument for why there could be, even should be, another wolf in the Lathum bettors.

I agree with you that most of the Lathum voters, including possibly yourself, are villagers. We all see this logic; for some reason, you think we don't. It's the part of the logic you're not recognizing that is causing the difference.

Your behavior here today is markedly odd. You're a WW vet; you know how this stuff goes. Whether fair or not, you're on a list of players for which there is a fairly logical argument that there is a wolf among them. And you make yourself stand out from that list with things like odd votes for nearly cleared players with no votes and specious reasoning.

Odds actually say you're likely to be a villager. But we don't have an odds play right now that likely nabs us a wolf. So you and the other Lathum voters are the target until we learn more.

[Chief Rum]

Or someone proposes a better theory...

[The Jackal]

But you've thrown that Lathum argument to the wayside at the moment with that bizarre vote on JAG, to be honest.

[The Jackal]

So we have DT and mckerney in a 5-5 tie with Zinto, Jag, and Pass on outliers?

[The Jackal]

I'll say it's hard to read Zinto having not played with him and him having not posted all that much, but I wouldn't mind a push towards him in the coming days here.

[Autumn]

Vote count as of post #1008

Daddy Torgo (5) - ntndeacon 866, mckerney 929, cougarfreak 936, saldana 980, chief rum 990
mauboy1 (1) - passacaglia 880
saldana (2) - JAG 894, zinto 924
mckerney (5) - darth vilus 931, the jackal 937, mauboy1 939, tyketime 983, daddy torgo 996

[JAG]

Unvote Saldana
Vote DT

Too close for me to feel comfortable.

[The Jackal]

I'm curious to see both of these guys' allegiances, just can't decide which I feel is wolfier. The last hour or so has really made me lean towards DT, and I haven't been put off by any of mckerney's posts today.

[mauchow]

I will be changing my vote if it looks like a tie will occur so we don't have to worry about that. I hope my connection on the phone stays strong enough during that time.

[The Jackal]

If you don't I will, mau. Unless I'm eating dinner or some such. At this point it looks like DT is going down unless Zinto or Pass show up or some info comes to light.

[Zinto]

Alright I am in class and I am struggling posting on my phone

[The Jackal]

Oh look, they're both here! let's see what happens.

[The Jackal]

Zinto, it's DT with 6 and Mckerney with 5

[Zinto]

unvote sal
vote DT

[The Jackal]

Hm, try and bold that vote. Not sure if it will count.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by The Jackal

Just way too easy of a route to go on day one, man. That's handing people money on a platter. We didn't know much at that point, but still, far too easy of a move for a wolf on day one, especially not knowing that bets could be revealed. We're 1/1 so far on that front. I don't think we'll be 4/4 (who else is there, DT, mckerney, and zinto, anyone else?), but the chances of there being at least one more wolf is very high.

I was also a Lathum voter and better Day 1, so I'm proof that it won't be all wolves.

[Autumn]

I'll take it. his phone probably doesn't do bold ;-)

[Autumn]

Daddy Torgo (7) - ntndeacon 866, mckerney 929, cougarfreak 936, saldana 980, chief rum 990, JAG 1011, zinto 1018
mauboy1 (1) - passacaglia 880
mckerney (5) - darth vilus 931, the jackal 937, mauboy1 939, tyketime 983, daddy torgo 996

[The Jackal]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I was also a Lathum voter and better Day 1, so I'm proof that it won't be all wolves.

Oof, so there's 5. Definitely at least one wolf in there. Feeling best about you at this point, but you're on my radar!

[mauchow]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

I was also a Lathum voter and better Day 1, so I'm proof that it won't be all wolves.

And when were u cleared Mr has a vote on a supposedly cleared villager(me)

[Passacaglia]

UNVOTE MAUBOY1
VOTE DADDYTORGO

I'm trusting mckerney more, personally, since he put a key vote on Crimson Fox. He could still be a wolf from the other team, but on the other hand, DT could be a wolf from either team, really.

[Passacaglia]

Ah crap, I meant to post that at the last minute. Oh, well.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

And when were u cleared Mr has a vote on a supposedly cleared villager(me)

Uh, when Autumn sent me the PM saying I was a villager, Mr. doesn't know how werewolf is played apparently.

[saldana]

yeah for vicodin!

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by mauboy1

And when were u cleared Mr has a vote on a supposedly cleared villager(me)

But to answer your question seriously, hoops used a service to find out how much money I had at the end of Night 2. It was $1000, which I think makes a pretty good case for me -- I haven't spent money on anything, and haven't pooled my money with anyone, so I think it's a decently safe assumption that I'm not a wolf.

[cougarfreak]

Back from the exhibit.........looks like some other folks are thinking like me on DT.

[JAG]

hoops' guests are back.

[cougarfreak]

Do we know what a tie vote does, just out of curiosity?

[Passacaglia]

no

[Autumn]

Final Vote Count

Daddy Torgo (8) - ntndeacon 866, mckerney 929, cougarfreak 936, saldana 980, chief rum 990, JAG 1011, zinto 1018, passacaglia 1025
mckerney (5) - darth vilus 931, the jackal 937, mauboy1 939, tyketime 983, daddy torgo 996

[mauchow]

No we don't.

[Autumn]

The crowd in the city hall are more determined today. The opinion quickly settles down to two residents of Vegas, possible mafia members. Mckerney and DaddyTorgo make their cases, scoffing at the accusations but the crowd will not relent. Finally everyone has cast their vote and stand watching as the ballots are counted. Nobody is quite as certain about the process as they once were.

It appears that DaddyTorgo is the lead vote recipient. The cops come and handcuff him. He walks down the aisle with his head high, not resisting. The crowd has to sit anxiously waiting as he is taken away in the squad car.

Later reports come from the police station. Daddy Torgo was a member of the Lupino family, and a mobster through and through. He has been handed over to the feds and removed from the city!

[cougarfreak]

Yes!

[mckerney]

We got another one!

[mauchow]

Oh man oh man.. I can't help to feel pretty good about our position. It will make for an interesting day tomorrow if we keep going the route oflathum betters. Good job villagers.

[mauchow]

Meant to say if we continue the route of lathum betters or not.. hope we get a seer scan tonight that is a success for once.

[saldana]

yeah for vicodin (and for 2 wolves in a row, but more for the vicodin, atm)

[Autumn]

The going rate for services on Day 4 was:

Tank Wallace, Professional Bodyguard - $5
Mario Juarez, Private Investigator - $1,600
Cassie's Escort Agency - $800
Knuckles Cassini - $1,800
Destiny, Vegas Showgirl - $525
Speedeez Courier Service - $5
Kalustian Betting Parlor - $751
Lefty Fingers, Acquisitions - $1,550

Black Market Services -
Dante the Loan Shark - $0

[Passacaglia]

Nice!!!

[JAG]

lol Pass.

Hopefully a villager got the Escort Agency.

[saldana]

wow...i hope 1800 for knuckles is a villager...the mob still having that much money is not good.

did i mention yeah for vicodin

[Autumn]

Whoops made one mistake, this is corrected:

The going rate for services on Day 4 was:

Tank Wallace, Professional Bodyguard - $5
Mario Juarez, Private Investigator - $1,600
Cassie's Escort Agency - $800
Knuckles Cassini - $1,800
Destiny, Vegas Showgirl - $5
Speedeez Courier Service - $5
Kalustian Betting Parlor - $751
Lefty Fingers, Acquisitions - $1,550

Black Market Services -
Dante the Loan Shark - $0

[Autumn]

Betting is open. Please place your bets on tomorrow's lynch by 9 a.m. EST.

If you have won a night service, please place your orders by 9 a.m. also

[JAG]

Even funnier.

[JAG]

Well, I'll lay it out. I won the night kill. Should I take a swing at an unknown?

And to confirm, the killer does indeed win the cash the victim has on them.

[JAG]

Pass, if you can protect me with the BG, I (presumably) can't get slutted by whoever won the escort service, assuming it was an unfriendly.