Official 2016 MLB season thread - Page 21

CrescentMoonie · 10-16-2016, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBug708

Uh, Joe? Baez didn't "let" it fall, it just fell in front. He thought he had AGon doubled up at second

I guess it wasnt high enough for the infield fly rule?

Baez knew exactly what he was doing and was the one pointing to get the runner between 2nd and 3rd. It was clearly on purpose and was a brilliant defensive play.

MrBug708 · 10-16-2016, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie

Baez knew exactly what he was doing and was the one pointing to get the runner between 2nd and 3rd. It was clearly on purpose and was a brilliant defensiveplay.

That was after he realized it wasn't a double play though.

Oh well, still should have been an IF fly rule for that very reason.

Pleased Kershaw made it through the 7th. Small victory that should go a long ways for confidence for him. It's his best game since he's been back from the DL

miami_fan · 10-16-2016, 10:52 PM

Dodger fans, what the hell is the fascination with the bunt? I am not just talking the Puig at bat. Every other batter is faking a bunt attempt. Is this normal for this team?

MrBug708 · 10-16-2016, 11:12 PM

Yesterday it was because Lester isn't good at it. Today it was to try to manufacture runs but it hasn't been a staple of this team this year. Roberts is innovating as he goes

stevew · 10-17-2016, 04:50 AM

What was the excuse this year for Jason Heyward not cracking double digit homers and posting a .631 OPS? Isn't he at the start of about a 150 million dollar deal?

Mantle2600 · 10-17-2016, 11:39 PM

Andrew frickin Miller! What a game!

Young Drachma · 10-17-2016, 11:47 PM

On the bright side, the Jays will finally fire Gibbons and whatever clown is masquerading as our hitting coach. Two squandered opportunities. Shapiro and company will dismantle the team and we'll suck for the next half decade. Should be great. But at least I got to experience post-season baseball as an adult. That was cool.

MrBug708 · 10-18-2016, 09:48 AM

Urias to start game 4, which will make him the youngest starter in MLB postseason history

Mizzou B-ball fan · 10-18-2016, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Young Drachma

On the bright side, the Jays will finally fire Gibbons and whatever clown is masquerading as our hitting coach. Two squandered opportunities. Shapiro and company will dismantle the team and we'll suck for the next half decade. Should be great. But at least I got to experience post-season baseball as an adult. That was cool.

The AL Central teams thank you for your team's implosions in post season play.

Arles · 10-18-2016, 02:16 PM

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/1...o-game-company

Oh Curt Schilling, you are giving Trump a run for his money. Schilling's new stance is essentially "You guys needs to elect Curt Schilling to the senate so that I can stop the government from lending money to guys like Curt Schilling"

Subby · 10-18-2016, 02:31 PM

pls fwd this to Curt Shilling he blocked me for some reason pic.twitter.com/E8FGS9buMl
— PFTCommenter (@PFTCommenter) October 18, 2016

MrBug708 · 10-18-2016, 09:41 PM

Need 2 more innings from hill but I'll take 1

RainMaker · 10-18-2016, 09:43 PM

Joe Maddon becomes a bad manager in the playoffs somehow.

Coffee Warlord · 10-18-2016, 09:53 PM

I'm not sure you can pin this on Maddon. They're just not hitting.

jbergey22 · 10-18-2016, 10:33 PM

What the heck has gotten into Rich Hill? Suddenly at the age of 36 he becomes an elite MLB pitcher.

RainMaker · 10-18-2016, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

I'm not sure you can pin this on Maddon. They're just not hitting.

Don't start 2 guys who can't hit curveballs (Soler and Russell) against a guy who only throws curveballs?

Coffee Warlord · 10-18-2016, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker

Don't start 2 guys who can't hit curveballs (Soler and Russell) against a guy who only throws curveballs?

Heyward can't hit anything (though I think I'd still start him over Soler, who hasn't been hitting for quite some time).

I suppose you could get weird, and but Baez at SS, Zobrist at 2B, and Contreras at LF, but hell, again. NOBODY is hitting.

RainMaker · 10-18-2016, 10:59 PM

Heyward struggles against velocity. Something Rich Hill does not have. Soler can't hit a curveball.

MrBug708 · 10-18-2016, 11:25 PM

Baez's AB against Jansen just wasn't fair.

jbergey22 · 10-18-2016, 11:29 PM

Ugh! Dodgers might be in the drivers seat now with another Kershaw start and 2 more at home. Cubs NEED to win tomorrow. Playoff baseball is so much different than the regular season.

PilotMan · 10-18-2016, 11:34 PM

Just breathe. All I can do right now. I'm happy tonight, but tomorrow is all that matters now. Don't give it back. Don't open the door. Don't lose faith that we can win this.

MrBug708 · 10-18-2016, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan

Just breathe. All I can do right now. I'm happy tonight, but tomorrow is all that matters now. Don't give it back. Don't open the door. Don't lose faith that we can win this.

I think we see a gem from Urias tomorrow. I also think Lackey brings it as well

RainMaker · 10-18-2016, 11:37 PM

Doesn't seem like it takes much to throw a gem against this Cubs lineup these days.

Mantle2600 · 10-19-2016, 06:32 PM

3. More. Outs.

cartman · 10-19-2016, 06:59 PM

Here's a shot from the Indians locker room:

Young Drachma · 10-19-2016, 07:25 PM

Go Cubs. Go Dodgers. That said, Cleveland earned it. Jays bats never showed up. Pitching was quite good by and large.

stevew · 10-19-2016, 07:45 PM

Andrew Miller has to join the list of amazing trade deadline acquisitions.

MrBug708 · 10-19-2016, 09:00 PM

Why have replay?

CrescentMoonie · 10-19-2016, 09:01 PM

Clearly safe. NY needs their eyes checked.

RainMaker · 10-19-2016, 09:07 PM

That was a bad call. He was clearly safe. Again, not sure what the point is of replay.

PilotMan · 10-19-2016, 09:31 PM

How the fuck can they miss that call at the plate with AGon? It wasn't even close.

RainMaker · 10-19-2016, 09:40 PM

I don't follow the AL much but don't the Indians have a bunch of really good players coming back next year from injury?

MrBug708 · 10-19-2016, 10:01 PM

Whelp

PilotMan · 10-19-2016, 10:21 PM

Fuck the Cubs.

MrBug708 · 10-19-2016, 10:39 PM

Toles throw cost the Dodgers a few runs

MrBug708 · 10-19-2016, 11:04 PM

This game got away from the Dodgers fast.

MrBug708 · 10-19-2016, 11:44 PM

All-around stinker. Probably the sloppiest game they have played all season. Four errors, and just not a very inspired performance. That being said, they are an incredibly resilient bunch. A great win like last night and a horrible loss like tonight only count as 1 in the tally. The sports media can start fawning over the Cubs again, playing right into the Dodgers' hands. The underdog role served them well in Game 5 of the NLDS. And also in taking a 2-1 lead in this series. After the win yesterday, Bovada made the Dodgers the new World Series favorites. And the media wrote off the Cubs. Now they will be back on their bandwagon, and the Dodgers can return to playing sound, fundamental baseball.

RainMaker · 10-20-2016, 12:55 AM

I know Roberts said Kershaw is not starting tomorrow but I still feel like there is a chance they use him. Would allow them to also use him in a Game 7 from the pen.

PilotMan · 10-20-2016, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker

I know Roberts said Kershaw is not starting tomorrow but I still feel like there is a chance they use him. Would allow them to also use him in a Game 7 from the pen.

Nah, they want Maeda for the last home game and Kershaw for game 6 since that's guaranteed now. He either pitches to clinch or pitches to keep LA in it. It becomes the big game now.

heybrad · 10-20-2016, 12:04 PM

I hope the Dodgers are watching ESPN right now. They're debating who should win the World Series right now. The Cubs or the Indians? Last I checked the Cubs aren't in the World Series yet.

MrBug708 · 10-20-2016, 08:41 PM

Can't believe we didn't send Kite, he could have walked to second base

MrBug708 · 10-20-2016, 11:47 PM

The Cubs are good, no mistake about it. But they have also been beyond fortunate. The Dodgers sloppy fielding and mental lapses have contributed greatly to their 3 losses.

Coffee Warlord · 10-20-2016, 11:53 PM

All of Chicago just held their breath when Baez came up hobbling.

jbergey22 · 10-21-2016, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by dawgfan

Let's review:

- You said: "I swear MLB uses different balls for post season."
- I reminded you that the ball doesn't travel as far in colder weather (and BTW, it was 62 degrees at first pitch last night - that's quite a bit cooler than a typical Summer game in NYC)
- While you acknowledge that temperature has an effect on how far the ball travels, you continue to insist that there's more to it than that and make claims about how much less offense there is in the post-season

You are making claims that are beyond standard, known factors that would drive down offense in the post-season (colder weather, more innings pitched by better pitchers), thus the burden of proof is on you. Let's see the numbers on how much less offense there is in the post-season. Let's review the average temperature drop from June-August vs. October.

You're asking for opinions, and it seems that most of the opinions expressed so far are that there's nothing going on in the post-season that requires an explanation of doctored/different baseballs.

Fangraphs came up with a couple small article on this subject. It’s No Coincidence Playoff Hitting Is Down | FanGraphs Baseball
Bullpen Usage Is Destroying Offense This Postseason | FanGraphs Baseball

The theory is better pitching it outperforming the better hitting without a mention of weather effects. And bullpen usage has decreased hitting. Postseason wOBA over the past 15 years is .278 compared to .318 for the regular season. Id like to see more research done on this topic as I feel there are numerous factors in play.

MrBug708 · 10-22-2016, 08:26 PM

Dodgers have been asolid all year and the bullpen and defense just gives out

FBPro · 10-22-2016, 09:46 PM

Liking how this is going to this point!!!!!

Coffee Warlord · 10-22-2016, 10:59 PM

Coffee Warlord · 10-22-2016, 11:00 PM

FUCK YES

EagleFan · 10-22-2016, 11:00 PM

Chapman brought in to "throw the last pitch of the season" and I hope they get their wish... just like Mitch Williams threw the last pitch of 1993...

Coffee Warlord · 10-22-2016, 11:03 PM

Oh he's gonna throw the last pitch of the season.

After four more wins.

10-16-2016, 10:52 PM	#1003
miami_fan Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Land O Lakes FL	Dodger fans, what the hell is the fascination with the bunt? I am not just talking the Puig at bat. Every other batter is faking a bunt attempt. Is this normal for this team? __________________ "The blind soldier fought for me in this war. The least I can do now is fight for him. I have eyes. He hasn’t. I have a voice on the radio, he hasn’t. I was born a white man. And until a colored man is a full citizen, like me, I haven’t the leisure to enjoy the freedom that colored man risked his life to maintain for me. I don’t own what I have until he owns an equal share of it. Until somebody beats me and blinds me, I am in his debt."- Orson Welles August 11, 1946

10-17-2016, 11:39 PM	#1006
Mantle2600 High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Dawg Pound	Andrew frickin Miller! What a game! __________________ Member of the Underground Browns. Cavs. Tribe. Buckeyes. Period.

10-17-2016, 11:47 PM	#1007
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	On the bright side, the Jays will finally fire Gibbons and whatever clown is masquerading as our hitting coach. Two squandered opportunities. Shapiro and company will dismantle the team and we'll suck for the next half decade. Should be great. But at least I got to experience post-season baseball as an adult. That was cool. __________________ Current dynasty: OOTP25 Blitz: RTS meets Moneyball \| OOTP Mod: GM Excel Competitive Balance Tax/Revenue Sharing Calc \| FBCB Mods on Github Last edited by Young Drachma : 10-17-2016 at 11:47 PM.

10-18-2016, 02:16 PM	#1010
Arles Grey Dog Software Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Phoenix, AZ by way of Belleville, IL	http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/1...o-game-company Oh Curt Schilling, you are giving Trump a run for his money. Schilling's new stance is essentially "You guys needs to elect Curt Schilling to the senate so that I can stop the government from lending money to guys like Curt Schilling" __________________ Developer of Bowl Bound College Football http://www.greydogsoftware.com

10-18-2016, 02:31 PM	#1011
Subby lolzcat Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: sans pants	pls fwd this to Curt Shilling he blocked me for some reason pic.twitter.com/E8FGS9buMl — PFTCommenter (@PFTCommenter) October 18, 2016 __________________ Superman was flying around and saw Wonder Woman getting a tan in the nude on her balcony. Superman said I going to hit that real fast. So he flys down toward Wonder Woman to hit it and their is a loud scream. The Invincible Man scream what just hit me in the ass!!!!! I do shit, I take pictures, I write about it: chrisshue.com

10-16-2016, 11:12 PM	#1004
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Yesterday it was because Lester isn't good at it. Today it was to try to manufacture runs but it hasn't been a staple of this team this year. Roberts is innovating as he goes

10-17-2016, 04:50 AM	#1005
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	What was the excuse this year for Jason Heyward not cracking double digit homers and posting a .631 OPS? Isn't he at the start of about a 150 million dollar deal?

10-18-2016, 09:48 AM	#1008
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Urias to start game 4, which will make him the youngest starter in MLB postseason history

10-18-2016, 09:41 PM	#1012
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Need 2 more innings from hill but I'll take 1

10-18-2016, 09:43 PM	#1013
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Joe Maddon becomes a bad manager in the playoffs somehow.

10-18-2016, 09:53 PM	#1014
Coffee Warlord Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Colorado Springs	I'm not sure you can pin this on Maddon. They're just not hitting.

10-18-2016, 10:33 PM	#1015
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	What the heck has gotten into Rich Hill? Suddenly at the age of 36 he becomes an elite MLB pitcher.

10-18-2016, 10:59 PM	#1018
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Heyward struggles against velocity. Something Rich Hill does not have. Soler can't hit a curveball.

10-18-2016, 11:25 PM	#1019
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Baez's AB against Jansen just wasn't fair.

10-18-2016, 11:29 PM	#1020
jbergey22 Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Minnesota	Ugh! Dodgers might be in the drivers seat now with another Kershaw start and 2 more at home. Cubs NEED to win tomorrow. Playoff baseball is so much different than the regular season. Last edited by jbergey22 : 10-18-2016 at 11:33 PM.

10-18-2016, 11:34 PM	#1021
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Just breathe. All I can do right now. I'm happy tonight, but tomorrow is all that matters now. Don't give it back. Don't open the door. Don't lose faith that we can win this. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

10-18-2016, 11:37 PM	#1023
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	Doesn't seem like it takes much to throw a gem against this Cubs lineup these days.

10-19-2016, 06:32 PM	#1024
Mantle2600 High School Varsity Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: The Dawg Pound	3. More. Outs. __________________ Member of the Underground Browns. Cavs. Tribe. Buckeyes. Period.

10-19-2016, 06:59 PM	#1025
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Here's a shot from the Indians locker room: __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

10-19-2016, 07:25 PM	#1026
Young Drachma Dark Cloud Join Date: Apr 2001	Go Cubs. Go Dodgers. That said, Cleveland earned it. Jays bats never showed up. Pitching was quite good by and large. __________________ Current dynasty: OOTP25 Blitz: RTS meets Moneyball \| OOTP Mod: GM Excel Competitive Balance Tax/Revenue Sharing Calc \| FBCB Mods on Github

10-19-2016, 07:45 PM	#1027
stevew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the yo'	Andrew Miller has to join the list of amazing trade deadline acquisitions.

10-19-2016, 09:00 PM	#1028
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Why have replay?

10-19-2016, 09:01 PM	#1029
CrescentMoonie College Starter Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Earth, the semi-final frontier.	Clearly safe. NY needs their eyes checked.

10-19-2016, 09:07 PM	#1030
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	That was a bad call. He was clearly safe. Again, not sure what the point is of replay.

10-19-2016, 09:31 PM	#1031
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	How the fuck can they miss that call at the plate with AGon? It wasn't even close. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

10-19-2016, 09:40 PM	#1032
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	I don't follow the AL much but don't the Indians have a bunch of really good players coming back next year from injury?

10-19-2016, 10:01 PM	#1033
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Whelp

10-19-2016, 10:21 PM	#1034
PilotMan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Seven miles up	Fuck the Cubs. __________________ He's just like if Snow White was competitive, horny, and capable of beating the shit out of anyone that called her Pops. Like Steam? Join the FOFC Steam group here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/FOFConSteam

10-19-2016, 10:39 PM	#1035
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Toles throw cost the Dodgers a few runs

10-19-2016, 11:04 PM	#1036
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	This game got away from the Dodgers fast.

10-19-2016, 11:44 PM	#1037
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	All-around stinker. Probably the sloppiest game they have played all season. Four errors, and just not a very inspired performance. That being said, they are an incredibly resilient bunch. A great win like last night and a horrible loss like tonight only count as 1 in the tally. The sports media can start fawning over the Cubs again, playing right into the Dodgers' hands. The underdog role served them well in Game 5 of the NLDS. And also in taking a 2-1 lead in this series. After the win yesterday, Bovada made the Dodgers the new World Series favorites. And the media wrote off the Cubs. Now they will be back on their bandwagon, and the Dodgers can return to playing sound, fundamental baseball.

10-20-2016, 12:55 AM	#1038
RainMaker Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	I know Roberts said Kershaw is not starting tomorrow but I still feel like there is a chance they use him. Would allow them to also use him in a Game 7 from the pen.

10-20-2016, 12:04 PM	#1040
heybrad Norm!!! Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Manassas, VA	I hope the Dodgers are watching ESPN right now. They're debating who should win the World Series right now. The Cubs or the Indians? Last I checked the Cubs aren't in the World Series yet.

10-20-2016, 08:41 PM	#1041
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	Can't believe we didn't send Kite, he could have walked to second base

10-20-2016, 11:47 PM	#1042
MrBug708 Head Coach Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Whittier	The Cubs are good, no mistake about it. But they have also been beyond fortunate. The Dodgers sloppy fielding and mental lapses have contributed greatly to their 3 losses.