Werewolf XLVIII - The horror of sorcery hill (Game over) - Page 21

LoneStarGirl · 07-08-2007, 08:40 PM

So we have an hour and 20 minutes left and it looks like chief will have important vote, unless Render moves his off of me. No pressure Chief

LoneStarGirl · 07-08-2007, 08:41 PM

Pass, I would rather you go ahead and use the bonding potion now instead of waiting an hour. And if you have to use it on me, go ahead, but I would rather you use it on hoops or path because one of the two have to be a wolf. But if you have to use it on me that is fine, but you will waste your potion

hoopsguy · 07-08-2007, 08:45 PM

I obviously want us to make a good lynch here today. If Path isn't a wolf, I would expect them to tip it in his favor today and leave me around (again!) for conversation tomorrow. So with a 4-4 score right now if we are thinking at all about moving away from Path to another candidate I would like to see it starting sooner rather than later.

Going back to Ardent, do people think he is a better candidate than Path? If you are asking me to pick between RendeR, NTN, and him then AE is the one that I have as most suspicious at the moment. I think there is a pretty good chance that he and Path are both wolves - I think this is more likely than Path and LSG - so this would be the one that I would rotate over to without it being driven solely by self-preservation.

Chief Rum · 07-08-2007, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

So we have an hour and 20 minutes left and it looks like chief will have important vote, unless Render moves his off of me. No pressure Chief

I already voted LSG. As others have said, nothing is locked down until 10 p.m. EST, though.

hoopsguy · 07-08-2007, 08:51 PM

Everyone in the game has voted at this point, with a 4-4 tie and RendeR having the tie-breaker potentially.

Chief Rum · 07-08-2007, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I obviously want us to make a good lynch here today. If Path isn't a wolf, I would expect them to tip it in his favor today and leave me around (again!) for conversation tomorrow. So with a 4-4 score right now if we are thinking at all about moving away from Path to another candidate I would like to see it starting sooner rather than later.

Going back to Ardent, do people think he is a better candidate than Path? If you are asking me to pick between RendeR, NTN, and him then AE is the one that I have as most suspicious at the moment. I think there is a pretty good chance that he and Path are both wolves - I think this is more likely than Path and LSG - so this would be the one that I would rotate over to without it being driven solely by self-preservation.

I'm going to throw a wrench into things.

UNVOTE PATH

VOTE ARDENT

I don't like any of the top candidates right now.

Poli · 07-08-2007, 09:04 PM

??

I don't have time to argue, time to watch big brother and then the 4400 on the tivo. I'll be back after the results.

Poli · 07-08-2007, 09:05 PM

Err, obviously, after the results, I mean. I've got about 1.5 hours of tv ahead of me.

ntndeacon · 07-08-2007, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Vote count, as of Post #995:
Hoops - Path (842), LSG (925), Pass (941), Ardent (973)
Path - Hoops (911), NTN (967), Barkeep (980), Chief (986)
LSG - RendeR (940)

Hoops my vote is not on path, but on LSG.

LoneStarGirl · 07-08-2007, 09:05 PM

Sorry, I thought we had 9 members left

hoopsguy · 07-08-2007, 09:10 PM

Thanks for the correction, NTN.

Updated vote count, as of Post #1010:
Hoops - Path (842), LSG (925), Pass (941), Ardent (973)
Path - Hoops (911), Barkeep (980)
LSG - RendeR (940), NTN (967)
Ardent - Chief (1006)

RendeR · 07-08-2007, 09:11 PM

erg, do we have an accurate vote count? I can try double checking if need be.

RendeR · 07-08-2007, 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RendeR

erg, do we have an accurate vote count? I can try double checking if need be.

Nevermind

hoopsguy · 07-08-2007, 09:12 PM

I would encourage the people who think that I'm playing this as a villager to combine on a single candidate. I'm sitting at four right now, which is a bad spot to be in with nine people.

UNVOTE PATH
VOTE ARDENT ENTHUSIAST

ntndeacon · 07-08-2007, 09:19 PM

Unvote LSG
Vote Ardent Enthusiast
Still think LSG is wolvish but am not completely sold on AEs goodness either.

Chief Rum · 07-08-2007, 09:19 PM

I'm going to go get some din. I'll be back before deadline.

ntndeacon · 07-08-2007, 09:21 PM

I will be back before deadline too, wanna watch a little Ice Road Truckers

LoneStarGirl · 07-08-2007, 09:22 PM

Why does this seem weird to me? 3 quick votes to AE all of a sudden? I won't be taking my vote off of Hoops

hoopsguy · 07-08-2007, 09:22 PM

Pass, you could make this very interesting if you swing your vote here. I still think you are making a mistake with Path, but we need to get a wolf today so I'm willing to go after my second candidate.

As it sits right now, you aren't even putting the wolves in a position to make hard decisions.

hoopsguy · 07-08-2007, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

Why does this seem weird to me? 3 quick votes to AE all of a sudden? I won't be taking my vote off of Hoops

Shocker.

Passacaglia · 07-08-2007, 09:24 PM

Scary run here.

Passacaglia · 07-08-2007, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Pass, you could make this very interesting if you swing your vote here. I still think you are making a mistake with Path, but we need to get a wolf today so I'm willing to go after my second candidate.

As it sits right now, you aren't even putting the wolves in a position to make hard decisions.

What do you mean, I'm not putting the wolves in a position to make hard decisions?

hoopsguy · 07-08-2007, 09:30 PM

I posted it before NTN had changed, but the vote was 4-2 at the time. Suffice it to say that I don't think that Path and AE (both of who I suspect) or LSG are moving, so I'm talking with the one person who is in the room who has a chance to do the right thing on this vote.

As it sits now, Barkeep or RendeR can jump on as well and we'll be back to 4-4.

One of these times we are going to have a lynch where there is a wolf in the mix. I want us to be able to take something from voting patterns at some point, since we don't have a seer or a bodyguard.

Barkeep49 · 07-08-2007, 09:31 PM

This run on AE is disturbing.

hoopsguy · 07-08-2007, 09:33 PM

To be more direct, here is the scenario I was going after.

Prior to NTN voting, if you had moved off me to AE it would have been 3-3. If he is a wolf, they would have to make hard decisions on how openly to save him and go after me. If I'm going down I at least want it to be a dogfight where you guys have some kind of meaningful takeaway.

You aren't willing to go down that avenue with Path - OK, I'll see if I can help take it that direction with another candidate. But I'm flat screwed if two villagers are going to vote for me. So I'm trying hard to move one of the few guys I feel pretty confident in as a villager who has his vote on me.

RendeR · 07-08-2007, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Pass, you could make this very interesting if you swing your vote here. I still think you are making a mistake with Path, but we need to get a wolf today so I'm willing to go after my second candidate.

As it sits right now, you aren't even putting the wolves in a position to make hard decisions.

Ok THIS post just reeks of a wolf scared out of his heavy woolen cloak. You've been on my list as well hoops and this sudden cheering for people to vote for 1 person and then pushing pass to swing his vote elsewhere is just too suspisiouc to me.

UNVOTE LSG

VOTE HOOPSGUY

hoopsguy · 07-08-2007, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

This run on AE is disturbing.

I wanted Path, as I still think he is the mostly likely wolf in the room. Maybe my words on this will carry more weight a few minutes after deadline, but they haven't been enough to carry today.

Like I said, I'm going to keep pushing until deadline to try and help us avoid lynching a villager. Hopefully in the process not pushing us towards another one, but I only know about myself for 100%.

Passacaglia · 07-08-2007, 09:39 PM

So what happens when we get a tie?

hoopsguy · 07-08-2007, 09:40 PM

RendeR, we haven't gotten a wolf yet. You guys are about to lynch another villager. How should I handle this? Sit back and let it happen? Not my style. I knew going into today that it was going to be a longshot to convince the masses to not lynch me, but I've given it my all.

If you (group, not you) go in the wrong direction then good luck the rest of the way, no hard feelings, but I think it is an extreme longshot to win the game with a bad lynch today. A good lynch today and I think this is still pretty salvageable.

hoopsguy · 07-08-2007, 09:41 PM

Votes as of Post #1029:

Hoops - Path (842), LSG (925), Pass (941), Ardent (973), RendeR (1026)
Path - Barkeep (980)
Ardent - Chief (1006), Hoops (1014), NTN (1015)

Chief Rum · 07-08-2007, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

So what happens when we get a tie?

My guess is nothing good. Probably nothing at all actually. Well, if you believe we're about to a villager, I suppose it's good.

Barkeep49 · 07-08-2007, 09:44 PM

Ok I'm not convinced that Ardent is a wolf, but if hoops is a wolf they're playing a very dangerous game of chicken.

Passacaglia · 07-08-2007, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

My guess is nothing good. Probably nothing at all actually. Well, if you believe we're about to a villager, I suppose it's good.

CR -- if you see a sudden vote switch at deadline to AE, would that scare you enough to vote hoops?

Alan T · 07-08-2007, 09:47 PM

Once again right during the middle of conversation, Passacaglia pulls out a potion and looks around the room, then chooses Lonestargirl to chuck it at. The potion smashes against her, and crashes open, with the fluid going all over here. All about her, she dissappears from sight in a pink cloud of smoke, and when it disappears you are shocked to see standing there........

Lonestargirl.. completely unchanged as far as you can tell.

Deadline is still in 14 minutes. I have a few PMs to send out and then will total up votes and try to be ready for the day results around 10pm EST

Passacaglia · 07-08-2007, 09:48 PM

Wish me luck guys.

LoneStarGirl · 07-08-2007, 09:48 PM

Thank you Pass... although I wish you would have used it on Hoops

LoneStarGirl · 07-08-2007, 09:49 PM

Not to throw accusations around or anything, but why do people think that Pass is cleared now that he threw that potion at me?

Poli · 07-08-2007, 09:51 PM

Finished big brother, can I get a quick cap of what's up?

Chief Rum · 07-08-2007, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

CR -- if you see a sudden vote switch at deadline to AE, would that scare you enough to vote hoops?

I'm not sure. If it happened, and AE was a villager, thouigh, I am pretty sure we would then know who some if not all of our wolves are.

LoneStarGirl · 07-08-2007, 09:52 PM

9 minutes left and 6 members watching... I am getting nervous

Poli · 07-08-2007, 09:52 PM

NM, WHAT THE HECK?

Chief Rum · 07-08-2007, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

Thank you Pass... although I wish you would have used it on Hoops

Then he might die with hoops. What good would that do?

Passacaglia · 07-08-2007, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum

I'm not sure. If it happened, and AE was a villager, thouigh, I am pretty sure we would then know who some if not all of our wolves are.

Well, please watch out for one. If there's a vote switch to AE at the last minute (I'm thinking from LSG), I'd appreciate if you switch yours to hoops.

Chief Rum · 07-08-2007, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

Not to throw accusations around or anything, but why do people think that Pass is cleared now that he threw that potion at me?

Umm, no one has proposed that theory. Why do you think that?

RendeR · 07-08-2007, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl

Not to throw accusations around or anything, but why do people think that Pass is cleared now that he threw that potion at me?

Honestly, I don't think it clears him at all. The only hold back on voting for pass in my opinion is that if he is truly a wolf then he's been playing the most unbelievably awesmoe game of wolf I've yet to read.

Barkeep49 · 07-08-2007, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

CR -- if you see a sudden vote switch at deadline to AE, would that scare you enough to vote hoops?

Pass you learned anything?

LSG: I also wish he'd thrown it at Hoops.

hoopsguy · 07-08-2007, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardent enthusiast

Finished big brother, can I get a quick cap of what's up?

You are trailing me 5-3 on the vote, so unless someone moves off of me onto you and Barkeep swings over to you from Path then we lose a villager. Recap over.

Poli · 07-08-2007, 09:54 PM

Screw this. I'm not campaigning. I don't have time. Off to the 4400. Good luck.

LoneStarGirl · 07-08-2007, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Well, please watch out for one. If there's a vote switch to AE at the last minute (I'm thinking from LSG), I'd appreciate if you switch yours to hoops.

Why would I switch off of Hoops?!

Chief Rum · 07-08-2007, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Well, please watch out for one. If there's a vote switch to AE at the last minute (I'm thinking from LSG), I'd appreciate if you switch yours to hoops.

I'll keep it in mind.

Right now, I think we learn something whether hoops or dies or someone else does. Which is all I really wanted to do when I switched to AE anyway.

07-08-2007, 09:04 PM	#1007
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	?? I don't have time to argue, time to watch big brother and then the 4400 on the tivo. I'll be back after the results. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-08-2007, 09:05 PM	#1008
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Err, obviously, after the results, I mean. I've got about 1.5 hours of tv ahead of me. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-08-2007, 09:11 PM	#1012
RendeR Coordinator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Buffalo, NY	erg, do we have an accurate vote count? I can try double checking if need be. __________________ http://wotlabs.net/s...8/signature.png http://wotlabs.net/sig_dark/na/banichi18/signature.png

07-08-2007, 09:51 PM	#1038
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Finished big brother, can I get a quick cap of what's up? __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-08-2007, 09:52 PM	#1041
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	NM, WHAT THE HECK? __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

07-08-2007, 08:40 PM	#1001
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	So we have an hour and 20 minutes left and it looks like chief will have important vote, unless Render moves his off of me. No pressure Chief

07-08-2007, 08:41 PM	#1002
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	Pass, I would rather you go ahead and use the bonding potion now instead of waiting an hour. And if you have to use it on me, go ahead, but I would rather you use it on hoops or path because one of the two have to be a wolf. But if you have to use it on me that is fine, but you will waste your potion

07-08-2007, 08:45 PM	#1003
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I obviously want us to make a good lynch here today. If Path isn't a wolf, I would expect them to tip it in his favor today and leave me around (again!) for conversation tomorrow. So with a 4-4 score right now if we are thinking at all about moving away from Path to another candidate I would like to see it starting sooner rather than later. Going back to Ardent, do people think he is a better candidate than Path? If you are asking me to pick between RendeR, NTN, and him then AE is the one that I have as most suspicious at the moment. I think there is a pretty good chance that he and Path are both wolves - I think this is more likely than Path and LSG - so this would be the one that I would rotate over to without it being driven solely by self-preservation.

07-08-2007, 08:51 PM	#1005
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Everyone in the game has voted at this point, with a 4-4 tie and RendeR having the tie-breaker potentially.

07-08-2007, 09:05 PM	#1010
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	Sorry, I thought we had 9 members left

07-08-2007, 09:10 PM	#1011
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Thanks for the correction, NTN. Updated vote count, as of Post #1010: Hoops - Path (842), LSG (925), Pass (941), Ardent (973) Path - Hoops (911), Barkeep (980) LSG - RendeR (940), NTN (967) Ardent - Chief (1006)

07-08-2007, 09:12 PM	#1014
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I would encourage the people who think that I'm playing this as a villager to combine on a single candidate. I'm sitting at four right now, which is a bad spot to be in with nine people. UNVOTE PATH VOTE ARDENT ENTHUSIAST

07-08-2007, 09:19 PM	#1015
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	Unvote LSG Vote Ardent Enthusiast Still think LSG is wolvish but am not completely sold on AEs goodness either.

07-08-2007, 09:19 PM	#1016
Chief Rum Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Where Hip Hop lives	I'm going to go get some din. I'll be back before deadline.

07-08-2007, 09:21 PM	#1017
ntndeacon Pro Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Alabama	I will be back before deadline too, wanna watch a little Ice Road Truckers

07-08-2007, 09:22 PM	#1018
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	Why does this seem weird to me? 3 quick votes to AE all of a sudden? I won't be taking my vote off of Hoops

07-08-2007, 09:22 PM	#1019
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Pass, you could make this very interesting if you swing your vote here. I still think you are making a mistake with Path, but we need to get a wolf today so I'm willing to go after my second candidate. As it sits right now, you aren't even putting the wolves in a position to make hard decisions.

07-08-2007, 09:24 PM	#1021
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Scary run here.

07-08-2007, 09:30 PM	#1023
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I posted it before NTN had changed, but the vote was 4-2 at the time. Suffice it to say that I don't think that Path and AE (both of who I suspect) or LSG are moving, so I'm talking with the one person who is in the room who has a chance to do the right thing on this vote. As it sits now, Barkeep or RendeR can jump on as well and we'll be back to 4-4. One of these times we are going to have a lynch where there is a wolf in the mix. I want us to be able to take something from voting patterns at some point, since we don't have a seer or a bodyguard.

07-08-2007, 09:31 PM	#1024
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	This run on AE is disturbing.

07-08-2007, 09:33 PM	#1025
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	To be more direct, here is the scenario I was going after. Prior to NTN voting, if you had moved off me to AE it would have been 3-3. If he is a wolf, they would have to make hard decisions on how openly to save him and go after me. If I'm going down I at least want it to be a dogfight where you guys have some kind of meaningful takeaway. You aren't willing to go down that avenue with Path - OK, I'll see if I can help take it that direction with another candidate. But I'm flat screwed if two villagers are going to vote for me. So I'm trying hard to move one of the few guys I feel pretty confident in as a villager who has his vote on me.

07-08-2007, 09:39 PM	#1028
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	So what happens when we get a tie?

07-08-2007, 09:40 PM	#1029
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	RendeR, we haven't gotten a wolf yet. You guys are about to lynch another villager. How should I handle this? Sit back and let it happen? Not my style. I knew going into today that it was going to be a longshot to convince the masses to not lynch me, but I've given it my all. If you (group, not you) go in the wrong direction then good luck the rest of the way, no hard feelings, but I think it is an extreme longshot to win the game with a bad lynch today. A good lynch today and I think this is still pretty salvageable.

07-08-2007, 09:41 PM	#1030
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Votes as of Post #1029: Hoops - Path (842), LSG (925), Pass (941), Ardent (973), RendeR (1026) Path - Barkeep (980) Ardent - Chief (1006), Hoops (1014), NTN (1015)

07-08-2007, 09:44 PM	#1032
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Ok I'm not convinced that Ardent is a wolf, but if hoops is a wolf they're playing a very dangerous game of chicken.

07-08-2007, 09:47 PM	#1034
Alan T Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mass.	Once again right during the middle of conversation, Passacaglia pulls out a potion and looks around the room, then chooses Lonestargirl to chuck it at. The potion smashes against her, and crashes open, with the fluid going all over here. All about her, she dissappears from sight in a pink cloud of smoke, and when it disappears you are shocked to see standing there........ Lonestargirl.. completely unchanged as far as you can tell. Deadline is still in 14 minutes. I have a few PMs to send out and then will total up votes and try to be ready for the day results around 10pm EST

07-08-2007, 09:48 PM	#1035
Passacaglia Coordinator Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Big Ten Country	Wish me luck guys.

07-08-2007, 09:48 PM	#1036
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	Thank you Pass... although I wish you would have used it on Hoops

07-08-2007, 09:49 PM	#1037
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	Not to throw accusations around or anything, but why do people think that Pass is cleared now that he threw that potion at me?

07-08-2007, 09:52 PM	#1040
LoneStarGirl College Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR	9 minutes left and 6 members watching... I am getting nervous

07-08-2007, 09:54 PM	#1048
Poli FOFC Survivor Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Wentzville, MO	Screw this. I'm not campaigning. I don't have time. Off to the 4400. Good luck. __________________ Cheer for a walk on quarterback! Ardent leads the Vols in the dynasty forum.

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