Survivor: New Helsing Tribal Thread

[Lathum]

Great job guys!!!

I'll take Oz. I think whoever takes total wolves in the game should reveal last, that way whoever the wolf is can't make any adjustments

[Lathum]

I think we need to keep it to ourselves until we all discuss what to do. How great would it be if our tribe had no wolves. probably wishfull thinking

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Great job guys!!!

I'll take Oz. I think whoever takes total wolves in the game should reveal last, that way whoever the wolf is can't make any adjustments

ok so we have:

Lupus - Alan
Helsing - Pass
Oz - Lathum
Howard - ?
Total wolves - Sndvls
Random wolf question in secret - ?

If Gramm or Mr.W show up tonight, we should cover Howard first.. then worry about having a second double checker on the end I think.. so at least we cover all the tribes first.

[Lathum]

dola- can an idol be passed?

[Passacaglia]

Keep as tribe first. We can reveal to the others after most of us agree.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Alan T

ok so we have:

Lupus - Alan
Helsing - Pass
Oz - Lathum
Howard - ?
Total wolves - Sndvls
Random wolf question in secret - ?

I like this, there is a possibility we can maybe nail the wolf in our tribe.


BTW WE ROCK!!

[Passacaglia]

That random questioner seems powerful. How about Wednesday?

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

That random questioner seems powerful. How about Wednesday?

Well right now we dont even know if Gramm or Mr.W will be in before the question deadline tommorrow morning.

I think whichever shows up first needs to take team Howard

Then the second one if they show up can be the random questioner and not tell us which one of our questions they picked.

[Lathum]

I trust you all equaly so it doesn't matter to me who asks. My question was submited

[Lathum]

HEY GUYS, I THINK WE SHOULD ALL KEEP OUR ANSWERS TO OURSELVES SO WE CAN COME UP WITH THE BEST ORDER TO REVEAL

[Barkeep49]

Originally Posted by Lathum

dola- can an idol be passed?

Yes.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Lathum

HEY GUYS, I THINK WE SHOULD ALL KEEP OUR ANSWERS TO OURSELVES SO WE CAN COME UP WITH THE BEST ORDER TO REVEAL

Well we should reveal at some point to ourselves in the morning. I think the people like me, pass, you picking the individual tribes should go first, and sndvls with the total wolves should go after.

if Gramm and Mr.W show up and we get the rest filled out, I think the very last should be the one who asked a random backup question to one of us.. just for checks and balances.

I would like us to reveal in the morning though if possible at some point.. since fridays people usually disappear starting 2-3ish. we'll want to talk some about what we found out

[Alan T]

Looks like howard definitly bit some into our fake votes from the post path made. I'm not going to respond, because I dont see a huge need to rub it in that we were just messing with them right now. We all know our votes were done way early in the day so wasnt really affected by that.

[Lathum]

Looks like Blade is out

[Alan T]

yeah, and I am pretty sure he wasnt supposed to announce it. Seems like some sour grapes there.

[Lathum]

big time sour grapes. I can not wait to read their team thread

[Lathum]

dola- when the game is over

[Alan T]

Hey gramm, see you here now. Do you want to take howard for tonight's questions?

[Grammaticus]

I would like for Lathum to ask how many wolves are in Helsing.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

I would like for Lathum to ask how many wolves are in Helsing.

why?

[Grammaticus]

Because I have the highest level of trust for Lathum at this point.

[Grammaticus]

I don't care what question I ask, you guys tell me what you want me to ask.

[Lathum]

I already submiyed my question but may be able to change. I think if we have the last 2 reveal the total number and the secret question we should be good. A wold would be taking to big a risk to get caught

[Alan T]

I would prefer if you can ask about Howard gramm since its the only tribe not covered.

As for Lathum asking about Helsing, I dont mind that, however if he does we need someone to ask about Oz too. I think its more important to cover all 4 tribes and have sndvls as a catchall to see if someone(s) might be lying with the total wolf vote then to have everyone check our tribe.

[Alan T]

I agree with Lathum.. I am hoping Mr.W shows up in the thread tonight to get a question too..

As long as we have two catchalls hopefully we cover any wolf who might lie. Unless there are multiple wolves here, in which case they still have to be careful.

[Lathum]

the way we have it set up it is pretty hard for a wolf to try and pull a fast one, we have a couple of fail safes in place

[Lathum]

dola- thanks for the vote of confidence gramm!!!

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Lathum

the way we have it set up it is pretty hard for a wolf to try and pull a fast one, we have a couple of fail safes in place

Well I see if we have two wolves and 1 of the wolves is either Sndvls or mr.W it voids some of our failsaves some.. but I think any wolf who lies about it will put their neck on the line without knowing other ways people in the game can get info.

Right now I am leaning towards at some point tommorrow sharing the info with everyone depending on what we find out. That way if other people have ways of finding info from challenges we can double check with that too.


Bottom line if they want to lie about the results tommorrow, hopefully it will eventually bust them.

[Grammaticus]

Righ now, I think we are best served to work as a team regardless of whether somebody is a wolf or a villager. So I really trust you all in that respect.

Outside of that, personality wise AlanT and Tyrith likely volunteered. So, I would like for someone other than them to not be the catchall. Tyrith is now SnDvls

[Grammaticus]

That should read, other than them to be the catchall

[Grammaticus]

Sorry guys, we are playing WW and I want to try and ensure we don't get railroaded.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Righ now, I think we are best served to work as a team regardless of whether somebody is a wolf or a villager. So I really trust you all in that respect.

Outside of that, personality wise AlanT and Tyrith likely volunteered. So, I would like for someone other than them to not be the catchall. Tyrith is now SnDvls

I am not allowed to say whether or not I did volunteer, but I think everyone here knows my personality pretty well and I would be a pretty easy read as far as that goes. I purposely chose not to check on our tribe or be a catch all just for accountability reasons (mainly if I drove this plan, I shouldnt have the most important roles in it).

I picked Lupus for this one.

[Grammaticus]

I like you taking Lupus, it's perfect.......

[Lathum]

do you guys think there is anyway we will all be online the same time tomorrow so we can all post our answers at once. Say noon EST?

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

I like you taking Lupus, it's perfect.......

I'm not sure how to take the trailing dots there...


My main reason for taking them is they have amused/interested me the most this game. That tribe has some funky stuff going on

[Grammaticus]

I would feel better if Lathum took Helsing or if he did the catchall.

I'll be happy to take howard as you suggested. Then SnDvls and Mr. W can split the difference.

How does that sound?

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Lathum

do you guys think there is anyway we will all be online the same time tomorrow so we can all post our answers at once. Say noon EST?

I can be here any time between 8am and 3pm most likely tommorrow as long as i know ahead of time.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

I would feel better if Lathum took Helsing or if he did the catchall.

I'll be happy to take howard as you suggested. Then SnDvls and Mr. W can split the difference.

How does that sound?

Problem is Mr.W might not come around tonight, and we don't know if Sndvls will be back or Pass (who currently has helsing) will be back tonight. They all might have gone to bed for the evening.

As much as I would love to have more people do catchalls, I think its as important to cover all four tribes.

[Lathum]

I agree with alan here but if Mr. Wed shows up and you want us to switch it is cool with me

[Grammaticus]

The trailing dots just means I think it fits just like a nice neat package. That is not bad, really. I also do not believe the volunteer thing made someone a wolf.

I agree the Lupus team has some weirdness to it. For what it is worth, I don't think there is a high chance Blade really would push the Idol(s) out of his team.

[Lathum]

FWIW it would be an extremly stupid move for a wolf to try and put one over us here. The risk vs. reward isn't there. We keep winning challenges so the wolf is safe, plus if we do go to tribal council it is a 1/6 shot, there really is no reason for a wolf to get cute at this point. I would think a novice player may try a move here but you are all WAY better players then that

[Lathum]

Blade may have known he was getting booted so he passed the idol

[Grammaticus]

I don't like giving helsing to anyone who asked for it. It's like volunteering to be the fox guarding the hen house. Just not good. Doesn't mean that person is bad, but still we shouldn't give them the job.

[Grammaticus]

Originally Posted by Lathum

FWIW it would be an extremly stupid move for a wolf to try and put one over us here. The risk vs. reward isn't there. We keep winning challenges so the wolf is safe, plus if we do go to tribal council it is a 1/6 shot, there really is no reason for a wolf to get cute at this point. I would think a novice player may try a move here but you are all WAY better players then that

I agree, but if there are Two wolves on our team or even Three, I would fully expect a wolf to say One, without worrying too much about getting caught later.

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

I don't like giving helsing to anyone who asked for it. It's like volunteering to be the fox guarding the hen house. Just not good. Doesn't mean that person is bad, but still we shouldn't give them the job.

Well one line of thought that I had is while this is true, the team furthest from finding the wolves on their team (if any) is us. We havent gone to any tribal councils or really had many places where one would have popped up.

So the place that would do least harm right now would be a wolf reporting about our team anyways theoretically. since we dont know if there are conversions, finding out today that there are 0 or 1 wolves doesnt mean there arent more in 3 days from now.

I think finding out info about tribes who have had multiple tribal councils might even be more risky right now (Lupus and Howard) since we could provide the information about the number of wolves and with their help perhaps put together the pieces on who they might be.

[Grammaticus]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Blade may have known he was getting booted so he passed the idol

I just don't see Blade doing that. Plus their thread title said votes were due at 10pm. That led me to believe the dead man did not know he was going until then. When did they give the Idols?

Actually, in real survivor, the Idol means you cannot get booted, so wouldn't he keep it in that case? If the Idol only protects you from wolves, and Blade thought he was gonna get wacked, he would keep the Idol so as to discourage his team from wacking him and sacraficing the Idol.

[Grammaticus]

Originally Posted by Alan T

Well one line of thought that I had is while this is true, the team furthest from finding the wolves on their team (if any) is us. We havent gone to any tribal councils or really had many places where one would have popped up.

So the place that would do least harm right now would be a wolf reporting about our team anyways theoretically. since we dont know if there are conversions, finding out today that there are 0 or 1 wolves doesnt mean there arent more in 3 days from now.

I think finding out info about tribes who have had multiple tribal councils might even be more risky right now (Lupus and Howard) since we could provide the information about the number of wolves and with their help perhaps put together the pieces on who they might be.

Eh, six of one half dozen of the other. Conversions or not, the number of wolves is likely not going down. Knowing where they are is good in general.

[Grammaticus]

So far, who said they sent their votes in?

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

Eh, six of one half dozen of the other. Conversions or not, the number of wolves is likely not going down. Knowing where they are is good in general.

I agree, just saying why I feel its needed to know the overall picture moreso than just focus on our tribe for this type of question I guess

[Alan T]

Originally Posted by Grammaticus

So far, who said they sent their votes in?

I think everyone except you and Mr.W.. We wernt sure if you two would make it tonight even.