WW 100: Game over! - Page 21

dubb93 · 01-14-2010, 09:15 PM

Can I post again yet Danny?

Danny · 01-14-2010, 09:15 PM

Autumn has been killed, he was the vampire and a villager.

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 09:16 PM

Grrr.

path12 · 01-14-2010, 09:16 PM

That's not a surprise. See ya, Autumn.

Autumn · 01-14-2010, 09:17 PM

Render, nobody here has anything more to go on than you do, that doesn't mean anything.

And just becuase youre the survivor doesn't mean you're a villager. I'm not offended at all, but I would think you've played enough to know you're going to get lynched if you don't actually play.

dubb93 · 01-14-2010, 09:17 PM

I got put on ice today. That is the reason why I was around most of the day and yet unable to post in the thread or vote all day.

Lathum · 01-14-2010, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

it was half gut and half "he's picking on me! STOP IT!" reaction....as you see I'm apt to have on little sleep heheheh

Again, sorry for getting heated lathum. But everyone calling me a newbie and thus is doing everything wrong is getting to me.

No worries. I'm an original player here and I still do everything wrong.

CrimsonFox · 01-14-2010, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

Maybe. I'm more swayed by my initial thoughts of Jackal's wolfishness before henry's "reveal" so I'm assuming that henry may be doing the 2nd level trickery thing. Now that we have nabbed a wolf, we'll be able to go back and see how what posts/votes become more interesting and informative now.

Well what about Day 1 with the vote for DT. That was one of the things that made me suspect Henry all along. He was one of the 3. Who else was in there? j23? EF was too wasn't he?

Autumn · 01-14-2010, 09:18 PM

oops, see ya guys, I was expecting that.

CrimsonFox · 01-14-2010, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93

I got put on ice today. That is the reason why I was around most of the day and yet unable to post in the thread or vote all day.

Frozen dubb is better than no dubb at all.

Lathum · 01-14-2010, 09:20 PM

We need EF to post one of his vote histories

path12 · 01-14-2010, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum

We need EF to post one of his vote histories

hoops had one last page, didn't he?

path12 · 01-14-2010, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy

As of post #959:

(766) - Saldana votes PB (PB 1)
(780) - Saldana unvotes PB, votes CF (CF 1)
(789) - Path votes Saldana (CF 1, Saldana 1)
(793) - Lathum votes CF (CF 2, Saldana 1)
(799) - Path unvotes Saldana (CF 2)
(807) - Real Deal vote/unvote/vote KWhit
(814) - Real Deal killed by KWhit
(838) - DV votes Hoops (CF 2, Hoops 1)
(839) - KWhit votes The Jackal (CF 2, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1)
(845) - CF votes Saldana (CF 2, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1, Saldana 1)
(851) - The Jackal votes KWhit (CF 2, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1, Saldana 1, KWhit 1)
(855) - Autumn votes Schmidty (CF 2, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1, Saldana 1, KWhit 1, Schmidty 1)
(862) - RendeR votes Saldana (CF 2, Saldana 2, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1, KWhit 1, Schmidty 1)
(863) - J23 votes Schmidty (CF 2, Saldana 2, Schmidty 2, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1, KWhit 1)
(869) - Henry votes CF (CF 3, Saldana 2, Schmidty 2, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1, KWhit 1)
(870) - NTN votes CF (CF 4, Saldana 2, Schmidty 2, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1, KWhit 1)
(875) - Hoops votes DV (CF 4, Saldana 2, Schmidty 2, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1, KWhit 1, DV 1)
(879) - PB votes Saldana (CF 4, Saldana 3, Schmidty 2, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1, KWhit 1, DV 1)
(894) - PB unvotes Saldana (CF 4, Saldana 2, Schmidty 2, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1, KWhit 1, DV 1)
(895) - PB votes KWhit (CF 4, Saldana 2, Schmidty 2, KWhit 2, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1, DV 1)
(902) - PB unvotes KWhit (CF 4, Saldana 2, Schmidty 2, KWhit 1, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1, DV 1)
(905) - PB votes Saldana (CF 4, saldana 3, Schmidty 2, KWhit 1, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1, DV 1)
(917) - NTN unvotes CF (CF 3, Saldana 3, Schmidty 2, KWhit 1, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1, DV 1)
(927) - PB unvotes Saldana, votes Henry (CF 3, Saldana 2, Schmidty 2, KWhit 1, Hoops 1, The Jackal 1, DV 1, Henry 1)
(928) - KWhit unvotes The Jackal, votes Henry (CF 3, Saldana 2, Schmidty 2, Henry 2, KWhit 1, Hoops 1, DV 1)
(938) - Path votes Henry (CF 3, Saldana 3, Henry 3, Schmidty 2, KWhit 1, Hoops 1, DV 1)
(946) - CF unvotes Saldana, votes Henry (Henry 4, CF 3, Saldana 2, Schmidty 2, KWhit 1, Hoops 1, DV 1)
(951) - NTN votes Henry (Henry 5, CF 3, Saldana 2, Schmidty 2, KWhit 1, Hoops 1, DV 1)
(954) - Hoops unvotes DV, votes Henry (Henry 6, CF 3, Saldana 2, Schmidty 2, KWhit 1, Hoops 1)
(959) - Autumn unvotes Schmidty, votes Henry (Henry 7, CF 3, Saldana 2, Schmidty 1, KWhit 1, Hoops 1)

There ya go.

dubb93 · 01-14-2010, 09:21 PM

While I was on ice today I had alot of time to think why would someone put me on ice today and KWhit on ice yesterday?

Why put KWhit on ice the day after he is almost lynched? Sounds to me like someone wanted to see him lynched while not putting up a fight, yet the lack of votes he drew yesterday was surprising.

Why put me on ice today? I have been gunning for Saldana since the game started. Did they want me off his ass to buy him another day knowing he has to be lynched twice to kill him?

Again I don't know, but what I do know is that to me it seems like the mobster is being played by a wolf not a villager. I just can't see a villager icing KWhit the day after he was almost lynched and then icing me today.

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93

While I was on ice today I had alot of time to think why would someone put me on ice today and KWhit on ice yesterday?

Why put KWhit on ice the day after he is almost lynched? Sounds to me like someone wanted to see him lynched while not putting up a fight, yet the lack of votes he drew yesterday was surprising.

Why put me on ice today? I have been gunning for Saldana since the game started. Did they want me off his ass to buy him another day knowing he has to be lynched twice to kill him?

Again I don't know, but what I do know is that to me it seems like the mobster is being played by a wolf not a villager. I just can't see a villager icing KWhit the day after he was almost lynched and then icing me today.

Yep. That was my thinking on it as well.

CrimsonFox · 01-14-2010, 09:25 PM

dubb, i absoluytely agree. I think the mobster is a wolf. Making a suspect look MORE guilty and thus try to get him lynched.

CrimsonFox · 01-14-2010, 09:29 PM

I'm kinda weirded out by DV's voting patterns too. Just out of nowhere for no reason. Not sure.

saldana · 01-14-2010, 09:31 PM

so going off of what dubb just said, who hasnt claimed any role?

with the seer and the BG already dead, who has anything left to hide except for the people that are using their powers for ill gotten gains

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 09:36 PM

Here are the people who haven't revealed.

Hoopsguy*
Schmidty*
Darth Vilus
Jackal*
Ntndeacon*
J23*

And here are the roles left:

Schizophrenic (known to be good)
Mobster
Aware
Ballot-Box Stuffer
Distractor
Soothsayer

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 09:37 PM

Weird. Those asterisks are not meaningful at all. I just pasted that from OneNote and it did that itself for some reason.

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 09:37 PM

Here are the people who haven't revealed.

Hoopsguy
Schmidty
Darth Vilus
Jackal
Ntndeacon
J23

And here are the roles left:

Schizophrenic (known to be good)
Mobster
Aware
Ballot-Box Stuffer
Distractor
Soothsayer

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 09:38 PM

There we go. I dunno why it did that in the first post. I was just cutting and pasting people's names from the main list of sign ups.

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 09:42 PM

Ah. I figured out what the asterisks were. for some reason there were spaces after each of the players' names (except DV) and it changed them to asterisks when I pasted for some reason.

Oh Microsoft, you silly beast.

Just wanted to make sure nobody thought that was my personal suspicion list or something.

ntndeacon · 01-14-2010, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana

so going off of what dubb just said, who hasnt claimed any role?

with the seer and the BG already dead, who has anything left to hide except for the people that are using their powers for ill gotten gains

I haven't but then again I hadn't had any use out of my role either.I am Aware. However no one has used an action against me.

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonFox

Well what about Day 1 with the vote for DT. That was one of the things that made me suspect Henry all along. He was one of the 3. Who else was in there? j23? EF was too wasn't he?

Me and Henry were the only uncleared people that voted for Dt on day one. That's why I was pretty sure he was a wolf. I knew I was a villager, and I figured one person from that list was likely a wolf.

Day 1 votes:
2 Darth Vilus - path12 (128) Crimson fox (132)
1 Path12 - Hoopsguy (133)
1 Crimson Fox - Darth Vilus (140)
4 Hoopsguy - Abe Sargent (147), RealDeal (150), RendeR (163), PurdueBrad (169)
1 PurdueBrad - Jackal (149)
5 DaddyTorgo - Autumn (151), henry296 (159), EagleFan (162), Kwhit (168), 1 Lathum (173)
2 Dubb - Saldana (156), Schmidty (158)
No vote: ntn, J23, DaddyTorgo, dubb93

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 09:46 PM

After ntndeacon's reveal:

Here are the people who haven't revealed.

Hoopsguy
Schmidty
Darth Vilus
Jackal
J23

And here are the roles left:

Schizophrenic (known to be good)
Mobster
Ballot-Box Stuffer
Distractor
Soothsayer

CrimsonFox · 01-14-2010, 09:48 PM

Funny thing is a lot of roles also let the person know it's being used on them. Although now I know that slut is not always one of them. I could slut you up if you like

hoopsguy · 01-14-2010, 09:50 PM

I'm more than willing to give out my role, but it does narrow things on everyone else. But if people want it, I'll give it and indicate what I've done (or not done) with it.

It is a neutral role and does not, in and of itself, prove my goodness.

RendeR · 01-14-2010, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

Huh?

Not voting "path" but the proverbial "going down that path in his thinking"

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

I'm more than willing to give out my role, but it does narrow things on everyone else. But if people want it, I'll give it and indicate what I've done (or not done) with it.

It is a neutral role and does not, in and of itself, prove my goodness.

I'm not advocating whether anyone should reveal one way or the other. I was just posting info. I will ask... Are you the mobster? If so, please explain your decisions.

hoopsguy · 01-14-2010, 10:03 PM

No, but I've got a pretty good guess as to who does have that role. Again, I'm not looking to go full disclosure on my role suspicions because I think that has more benefit to the wolves at the moment. Both in terms of who to target and how to manipulate the votes.

dubb93 · 01-14-2010, 10:05 PM

Hoops if you think you know who the mobster is I would be curious to hear it since I am almost 100% that whoever has that role is a wolf. I can't think of a single reason why a villager would play that role the way it has been played to this point.

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 10:07 PM

Yeah, I'd really like the mobster to come out and explain himself.

hoopsguy · 01-14-2010, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93

Hoops if you think you know who the mobster is I would be curious to hear it since I am almost 100% that whoever has that role is a wolf. I can't think of a single reason why a villager would play that role the way it has been played to this point.

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

Yeah, I'd really like the mobster to come out and explain himself.

I'm guessing that it is the resident Spartan fan. Agreed that this has been a tough role to figure and I would like to see it explained in thread by whoever has it.

That is the last one that I'll speculate on in thread tonight.

KWhit · 01-14-2010, 10:57 PM

Schmidty, no vote today?

Why, dude? You were around a couple of times before deadline.

dubb93 · 01-14-2010, 11:06 PM

I think we got three solid candidates today ,IMO, in no particular order.

1. Jackal

Henry says he is a wolf. Henry is a wolf. Why does Henry say he is a wolf? Was he trying to buy trust by offering up The Jackal?

2. Schmidty

If he is actually the mobster I think he has to be a wolf. From what I have seen of that role being played on KWhit and myself, that role is being used for nefarious deeds.

3. Saldana

Was the mobster trying to give him cover? Why did he let us place him in a role that he isn't? And why was he constantly trying to encourage votes on other players earlier in the game and yet was not willing to cast a vote himself?

Schmidty · 01-14-2010, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93

2. Schmidty

If he is actually the mobster I think he has to be a wolf. From what I have seen of that role being played on KWhit and myself, that role is being used for nefarious deeds.

Yep, I'm the Mobster. And no I'm not a Wolf. I didn't use the ability well. I pretty much used it to use it. That's why I said I didn't use the ability today. I srewed up. I didn't want to argue with KWhit when I targeted him, and the same thing for you. It was a bone-headed move, and I regret it. I deserve to be lynched. I haven't been paying enough attention to this game, and that sucks.

Sorry.

J23 · 01-14-2010, 11:37 PM

Nice work nabbing a wolf tonight all.

Is it worth revealing roles when we have a kinda-seer in the schitzo?

Darth Vilus · 01-15-2010, 02:27 AM

Finally! It's about effing time that we nabbed a wolf, nice job people!

saldana · 01-15-2010, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93

I got put on ice today. That is the reason why I was around most of the day and yet unable to post in the thread or vote all day.

so here we have someone saying they were iced today

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Yep, I'm the Mobster. And no I'm not a Wolf. I didn't use the ability well. I pretty much used it to use it. That's why I said I didn't use the ability today. I srewed up. I didn't want to argue with KWhit when I targeted him, and the same thing for you. It was a bone-headed move, and I regret it. I deserve to be lynched. I haven't been paying enough attention to this game, and that sucks.

Sorry.

and someone else saying they didnt put anyone on ice today

hmmm....now it has been a while since I played this game, but i think that one of these two is lying

saldana · 01-15-2010, 07:14 AM

dola, if the soothsayer is around and still has a power, either of the posts above would be a wonderful one for you to check

saldana · 01-15-2010, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dubb93

3. Saldana

Was the mobster trying to give him cover? Why did he let us place him in a role that he isn't? And why was he constantly trying to encourage votes on other players earlier in the game and yet was not willing to cast a vote himself?

double dola, why is it that you keep coming back to things that I have already explained about 4 times?

KWhit · 01-15-2010, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana

dola, if the soothsayer is around and still has a power, either of the posts above would be a wonderful one for you to check

Hold on here. I wouldn't use the soothsayer power yet until we hear from the two guys.

KWhit · 01-15-2010, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmidty

1) Yes, but I'm not going to this day.
2) No. My power is kind of lame (no offense to the creator). Either that or I don't know how to use it best.

Here's Schmidty's post. This was posted last night, meaning he wasn't going to ice anyone yesterday. I believe dubb said he was iced the day before. He basically would have had to have been since it lasts 24 hours and he was posting again last night.

saldana · 01-15-2010, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

Here's Schmidty's post. This was posted last night, meaning he wasn't going to ice anyone yesterday. I believe dubb said he was iced the day before. He basically would have had to have been since it lasts 24 hours and he was posting again last night.

so if dubb was iced, it would have happened at N3, thus taking him out for the entirety of D4?...which means if schmidty didnt ice anyone at N4, then eveyrone should be free to post today.

dubb93 · 01-15-2010, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saldana

so here we have someone saying they were iced today

and someone else saying they didnt put anyone on ice today

hmmm....now it has been a while since I played this game, but i think that one of these two is lying

Eh, I said I was put on ice and then Schmidty says he didn't want to argue with KWhit when he iced him and he didn't want to argue with me when he iced me but he did them both anyway. What is the issue here? Why is it that this entire game you have been planting seeds of doubt and trying to cause confusion? Why would you have our soothsayer waste a scan on me claiming something and then Schmidty coming in and confirming that he did in fact do it to me?

Vote Saldana

I think Schmidty is a solid vote today too, but I think Schmidty was covering for Saldana when he iced me which makes me think that they think Saldana is more valuable than Schmidty at this time so I'm voting him first.

saldana · 01-15-2010, 11:02 AM

fine dubb, you have ignored everything i have said all game unless you are trying to spin it into something that it isnt...i didnt realize the ice lasted 24 hours from the previous day...the fact that you didnt vote yesterday actually has me on your side, ironically.

here is a fact that you cannot dispute...in voting for me, and attempting to get others to vote for me, you are pushing for yet another day of no lynch, which helps the village absolutely zero

vote schmidty

hoopsguy · 01-15-2010, 11:02 AM

1. Render - Survivor, demonstrated in thread
2. Hoopsguy - no role declared
3. Schmidty - claimed Mobster
4. Darth Vilus - no role declared
5. Abe Sargent - Night Kill Day 2, Bodyguard
6. Autumn - Night Kill Day 4, Vampire
7. Real Deal - Killed by Kwhit Day 4, Love em or Hate em guy
8. EagleFan - Night Kill Day 3, Seer
9. Lathum - Night Kill Day 1, Reborn Day 2 - "vanilla" by rule of resurrection
10. PurdueBrad - claimed Gladiator, referenced pretty cool in-thread drop
11. DaddyTorgo - Lynch Day 1, Crazy Granny
12. Jackal - no role claimed
13. Ntndeacon - claimed Aware
14. J23 - no role claimed
15. CrimsonFox - claimed Slut
16. Saldana - claimed Governor
17. Dubb - claimed Whiny Bitch
18. Path - claimed Resurrector, there has in fact been a resurrection
19. Kwhit - Vengeful God, demonstrated in thread
20. Henry - Lynched Day 4, Ghost Whisperer

hoopsguy · 01-15-2010, 11:06 AM

Now the "declared/non-declared" thing doesn't have a ton of value in determining factions, but I figured that I might as well publish my notes. The wolves have been doing a pretty good job of nailing roles, so I'm guessing they have a list pretty similar to this one.

The bummer about Henry as our first wolf is that he doesn't have as much of a thread trail as other players. But I'll see what I can come up with this afternoon. At the very least, we'll have voting records plus his bogus reveal as data points.

hoopsguy · 01-15-2010, 11:12 AM

Voting Record:
D1 - DaddyTorgo
D2 - KWhit
D3 - RendeR
D4 - CrimsonFox

So, who are the folks that he might have been protecting on those days? A quick look at the runner-up each day:
D1 - Hoops
D2 - PurdueBrad
D3 - RealDeal (distant, known villager)
D4 - none at end, he voted for runner-up

A deeper look at the timing of the votes to follow, which might give better information on who he could have been protecting on each day.

01-14-2010, 09:16 PM	#1004
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	That's not a surprise. See ya, Autumn. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

01-15-2010, 02:27 AM	#1039
Darth Vilus College Benchwarmer Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: SoCal	Finally! It's about effing time that we nabbed a wolf, nice job people! __________________ "Two there should be; no more, no less. One to embody power, the other to crave it." ―Darth Bane "Tell me what you regard as your greatest strength, so I will know how best to undermine you; tell me of your greatest fear, so I will know which I must force you to face; tell me what you cherish most, so I will know what to take from you; and tell me what you crave, so that I might deny you…" ―Darth Plagueis the Wise

01-14-2010, 09:15 PM	#1002
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Autumn has been killed, he was the vampire and a villager.

01-14-2010, 09:16 PM	#1003
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Grrr.

01-14-2010, 09:17 PM	#1005
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	Render, nobody here has anything more to go on than you do, that doesn't mean anything. And just becuase youre the survivor doesn't mean you're a villager. I'm not offended at all, but I would think you've played enough to know you're going to get lynched if you don't actually play.

01-14-2010, 09:18 PM	#1009
Autumn Head Coach Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bath, ME	oops, see ya guys, I was expecting that.

01-14-2010, 09:20 PM	#1011
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	We need EF to post one of his vote histories

01-14-2010, 09:25 PM	#1016
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	dubb, i absoluytely agree. I think the mobster is a wolf. Making a suspect look MORE guilty and thus try to get him lynched.

01-14-2010, 09:29 PM	#1017
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	I'm kinda weirded out by DV's voting patterns too. Just out of nowhere for no reason. Not sure.

01-14-2010, 09:31 PM	#1018
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	so going off of what dubb just said, who hasnt claimed any role? with the seer and the BG already dead, who has anything left to hide except for the people that are using their powers for ill gotten gains

01-14-2010, 09:36 PM	#1019
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Here are the people who haven't revealed. Hoopsguy* Schmidty* Darth Vilus Jackal* Ntndeacon* J23* And here are the roles left: Schizophrenic (known to be good) Mobster Aware Ballot-Box Stuffer Distractor Soothsayer

01-14-2010, 09:37 PM	#1020
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Weird. Those asterisks are not meaningful at all. I just pasted that from OneNote and it did that itself for some reason.

01-14-2010, 09:37 PM	#1021
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Here are the people who haven't revealed. Hoopsguy Schmidty Darth Vilus Jackal Ntndeacon J23 And here are the roles left: Schizophrenic (known to be good) Mobster Aware Ballot-Box Stuffer Distractor Soothsayer

01-14-2010, 09:38 PM	#1022
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	There we go. I dunno why it did that in the first post. I was just cutting and pasting people's names from the main list of sign ups.

01-14-2010, 09:42 PM	#1023
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Ah. I figured out what the asterisks were. for some reason there were spaces after each of the players' names (except DV) and it changed them to asterisks when I pasted for some reason. Oh Microsoft, you silly beast. Just wanted to make sure nobody thought that was my personal suspicion list or something.

01-14-2010, 09:46 PM	#1026
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	After ntndeacon's reveal: Here are the people who haven't revealed. Hoopsguy Schmidty Darth Vilus Jackal J23 And here are the roles left: Schizophrenic (known to be good) Mobster Ballot-Box Stuffer Distractor Soothsayer

01-14-2010, 09:48 PM	#1027
CrimsonFox Head Coach Join Date: Dec 2009	Funny thing is a lot of roles also let the person know it's being used on them. Although now I know that slut is not always one of them. I could slut you up if you like

01-14-2010, 09:50 PM	#1028
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	I'm more than willing to give out my role, but it does narrow things on everyone else. But if people want it, I'll give it and indicate what I've done (or not done) with it. It is a neutral role and does not, in and of itself, prove my goodness.

01-14-2010, 10:03 PM	#1031
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	No, but I've got a pretty good guess as to who does have that role. Again, I'm not looking to go full disclosure on my role suspicions because I think that has more benefit to the wolves at the moment. Both in terms of who to target and how to manipulate the votes.

01-14-2010, 10:07 PM	#1033
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Yeah, I'd really like the mobster to come out and explain himself.

01-14-2010, 10:57 PM	#1035
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	Schmidty, no vote today? Why, dude? You were around a couple of times before deadline.

01-14-2010, 11:37 PM	#1038
J23 College Benchwarmer Join Date: Jul 2009	Nice work nabbing a wolf tonight all. Is it worth revealing roles when we have a kinda-seer in the schitzo?

01-15-2010, 07:14 AM	#1041
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	dola, if the soothsayer is around and still has a power, either of the posts above would be a wonderful one for you to check

01-15-2010, 11:02 AM	#1047
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	fine dubb, you have ignored everything i have said all game unless you are trying to spin it into something that it isnt...i didnt realize the ice lasted 24 hours from the previous day...the fact that you didnt vote yesterday actually has me on your side, ironically. here is a fact that you cannot dispute...in voting for me, and attempting to get others to vote for me, you are pushing for yet another day of no lynch, which helps the village absolutely zero vote schmidty

01-15-2010, 11:02 AM	#1048
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	1. Render - Survivor, demonstrated in thread 2. Hoopsguy - no role declared 3. Schmidty - claimed Mobster 4. Darth Vilus - no role declared 5. Abe Sargent - Night Kill Day 2, Bodyguard 6. Autumn - Night Kill Day 4, Vampire 7. Real Deal - Killed by Kwhit Day 4, Love em or Hate em guy 8. EagleFan - Night Kill Day 3, Seer 9. Lathum - Night Kill Day 1, Reborn Day 2 - "vanilla" by rule of resurrection 10. PurdueBrad - claimed Gladiator, referenced pretty cool in-thread drop 11. DaddyTorgo - Lynch Day 1, Crazy Granny 12. Jackal - no role claimed 13. Ntndeacon - claimed Aware 14. J23 - no role claimed 15. CrimsonFox - claimed Slut 16. Saldana - claimed Governor 17. Dubb - claimed Whiny Bitch 18. Path - claimed Resurrector, there has in fact been a resurrection 19. Kwhit - Vengeful God, demonstrated in thread 20. Henry - Lynched Day 4, Ghost Whisperer

01-15-2010, 11:06 AM	#1049
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Now the "declared/non-declared" thing doesn't have a ton of value in determining factions, but I figured that I might as well publish my notes. The wolves have been doing a pretty good job of nailing roles, so I'm guessing they have a list pretty similar to this one. The bummer about Henry as our first wolf is that he doesn't have as much of a thread trail as other players. But I'll see what I can come up with this afternoon. At the very least, we'll have voting records plus his bogus reveal as data points.

01-15-2010, 11:12 AM	#1050
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Voting Record: D1 - DaddyTorgo D2 - KWhit D3 - RendeR D4 - CrimsonFox So, who are the folks that he might have been protecting on those days? A quick look at the runner-up each day: D1 - Hoops D2 - PurdueBrad D3 - RealDeal (distant, known villager) D4 - none at end, he voted for runner-up A deeper look at the timing of the votes to follow, which might give better information on who he could have been protecting on each day.

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