WW XCV: Land of the Role Reveals GAME OVER - Page 21

Telle · 05-29-2009, 03:39 PM

Disbelieve saldana as vengeful wolf.
Believe saldana as maniac.

Danny · 05-29-2009, 03:40 PM

Believe Saldana as Maniac
Believe Saldana as tough wolf

Racer · 05-29-2009, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

Now that it's out there, the reason I asked about Brutal Wolf working if night killed is I was planning on using my ability to night kill Saldana if he was the believed brutal wolf (sorry saldana)

why

Danny · 05-29-2009, 03:41 PM

We need to organize our two night scans and night kill around completely uncleared players and using lists so that there are no repeats

Danny · 05-29-2009, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racer

why

Because it would have taken a wolf with him and would have avoided us having to waste a a lynch. And with the limitations on my power, I don't think I would have gotten a better opportunity then that to use it.

lerriuqs · 05-29-2009, 03:43 PM

Unbelieve Saldana as Brutal wolf
Believe Saldana as vengeful wolf

Danny · 05-29-2009, 03:44 PM

Guys, tough wolf is a better ability then Vengeful wolf as the real vengeful wolf can still kill Saldana no problem.

Tyrith · 05-29-2009, 03:44 PM

Sigh, I just now got comp access about 20 minutes ago. Whatever I do this game seems to draw someone's ire :P

I am the maniac.
I am the vengeful wolf.
I am a flying purple zebra.

Racer · 05-29-2009, 03:46 PM

Does anyone have a vote count on the believe votes?

lerriuqs · 05-29-2009, 03:47 PM

Ok...I'm confused - why are we going tough wolf or maniac?

Question for Barkeep - it mentions "stacking" on the maniac - does that mean only the real maniac if believed can kill anyone or does the believed maniac, regardless of real role have that ability?

lerriuqs · 05-29-2009, 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

Guys, tough wolf is a better ability then Vengeful wolf as the real vengeful wolf can still kill Saldana no problem.

Ok I understand that part now...Got lost on this page - trying to work and keep up...Silly me.

Telle · 05-29-2009, 03:48 PM

Belief votes as of post #1009

3 - saldana as brutal - PurdueBrad (890), Racer (895), Schmidty (952)
2 - saldana as vengeful - USFLTecmo (974), lerriuqs (1006)
4 - saldana as tough wolf - dubb (966), hoopsguy (978), saldana (985), Danny (1002)
1 - Tyrith as maniac - hoopsugy (978)
4 - saldana as maniac - dubb (980), Racer (995), Telle (1001), Danny (1002)

PurdueBrad · 05-29-2009, 03:49 PM

Believe Saldana as maniac

Vote Hoopsguy (placeholder)

hoopsguy · 05-29-2009, 03:49 PM

Awesome - the day that I've got some time to play WW my daughter comes down with pinkeye. I'll be on sometime later this evening, after a doctor visit and getting her to bed, to see what needs to be done with believe and vote actions.

Danny · 05-29-2009, 03:50 PM

I believe it means anyone can have the ability, but if I were to become the believed maniac I would have the ability to kill any player and kill one believe player. If we make Saldana the real maniac he needs to use it tonight or else if the wolves kill me (not necessarily a bad idea since it would mean a guarantee of two more scans) he would lose that power.

PurdueBrad · 05-29-2009, 03:50 PM

I'm out for a bit to go home and settle in but I will certainly be on this afternoon.

PurdueBrad · 05-29-2009, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Awesome - the day that I've got some time to play WW my daughter comes down with pinkeye. I'll be on sometime later this evening, after a doctor visit and getting her to bed, to see what needs to be done with believe and vote actions.

Don't I look like the jerk having just voted you! Good luck Hoops.

Lathum · 05-29-2009, 03:52 PM

Doesn't PB have to unvote sal as brutal first?

Lathum · 05-29-2009, 03:52 PM

Believe Saldana as Maniac

Tyrith · 05-29-2009, 03:52 PM

Well, I don't think we want to give saldana maniac, then, as tight as we are on blocks right now.

BELIEVE SALDANA AS TOUGH WOLF

Danny · 05-29-2009, 03:53 PM

This is what we have as far as players so far.

Dubb - Claimed Duke, Believed Seer
Saldana - scanned by Dubb
PurdueBrad - Claimed Seer, Believed BG
Chief Rum - Scanned by PB
Tyrith - Scanned by PB
Danny - Claimed Maniac

That leaves us with

Schmidty
Hoopsguy
USFLTecmo
Lerriuqs
ntn
Lathum
Telle
Racer

Our lynch, maniac kill and two scans should come from this group

Tyrith · 05-29-2009, 03:55 PM

Further, I don't think we are in a big rush to be offing more people, as we can't even seem to begin to figure out who to lynch today.

lerriuqs · 05-29-2009, 03:55 PM

Disbelieve Saldana as vengeful wolf
Believe Saldana as Tough wolf

Telle · 05-29-2009, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

Doesn't PB have to unvote sal as brutal first?

You can have two belief votes.

Danny · 05-29-2009, 03:56 PM

My vote will likely be going towards Lathum or NTN at this point. Lathum's play has seemed off for him so far and NTN is impossible to read becasue he never posts, but one of these times he is going to be a wolf doing that.

saldana · 05-29-2009, 03:57 PM

to be honest with you all, i would prefer the tough wolf to any of the others...there arent enough cleared players to make an educated guess at this point to make a move as the maniac

Telle · 05-29-2009, 03:58 PM

Any thoughts on the lack of a kill last night and the possibility for conversion? I believe both lerriuqs and Racer have claimed to be the cultist. Could one of them have really been it?

Lathum · 05-29-2009, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

This is what we have as far as players so far.

Dubb - Claimed Duke, Believed Seer
Saldana - scanned by Dubb
PurdueBrad - Claimed Seer, Believed BG
Chief Rum - Scanned by PB
Tyrith - Scanned by PB
Danny - Claimed Maniac

That leaves us with

Schmidty
Hoopsguy
USFLTecmo
Lerriuqs
ntn
Lathum
Telle
Racer

Our lynch, maniac kill and two scans should come from this group

can someone point me to where tyrith was scanned by PB?

Barkeep49 · 05-29-2009, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lerriuqs

Ok...I'm confused - why are we going tough wolf or maniac?

Question for Barkeep - it mentions "stacking" on the maniac - does that mean only the real maniac if believed can kill anyone or does the believed maniac, regardless of real role have that ability?

Believed maniac can kill anyone. The actual maniac does not lose his ability though. So a believed actual maniac can have two kills.

Danny · 05-29-2009, 03:59 PM

Tyrith was PB's scan from today. It was in there posted by PB

Lathum · 05-29-2009, 03:59 PM

believe Saldana as tough wolf

Lathum · 05-29-2009, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

Tyrith was PB's scan from today. It was in there posted by PB

post number please?

Danny · 05-29-2009, 04:00 PM

I think we go Maniac today and take our shot. As long as it is planned with our scans so that we do no double up, we can really build a strong trust list and have a more concise list of possible wolves.

Lathum · 05-29-2009, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Hoops wanted reasoning as well, I think:

Dubb- Duke
Saldana- Dubb scanned him and his scans are definitely good

Tyrith- I scanned last night
CR- I scanned the night before last
PB- Could be fake seer, could be making a wolf play

The rest- Yeah, you know who you are, there are wolves among you!

OK, just found it.

sigh.

unvote tyrith

Danny · 05-29-2009, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad

Hoops wanted reasoning as well, I think:

Dubb- Duke
Saldana- Dubb scanned him and his scans are definitely good

Tyrith- I scanned last night
CR- I scanned the night before last
PB- Could be fake seer, could be making a wolf play

The rest- Yeah, you know who you are, there are wolves among you!

...

Tyrith · 05-29-2009, 04:02 PM

Part of me still wonders is lerr is the actual cultist and they converted him last night.

Lathum · 05-29-2009, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

My vote will likely be going towards Lathum or NTN at this point. Lathum's play has seemed off for him so far and NTN is impossible to read becasue he never posts, but one of these times he is going to be a wolf doing that.

I don't know how many times i can say I was away for the games start and have been swamped with school work. Plus games like this go over my head at times, especialy when I can't dedicate much time to them. I just haven't paid much attention, as I think my play indicates.

You want to lynch me for that so be it, you want to scan me thats cool to. I realize I haven't been nearly as active as usual, which is probably why this thread isn't 40 pages.

Telle · 05-29-2009, 04:03 PM

Yeah that's what's been going through my head, Tyrith.

Lathum · 05-29-2009, 04:06 PM

I am going to go back and

Vote Racer

he is unknown, has a spotty voting record and the way he jumped on me for making the mistake earlier today about USFL made it seem like he was looking for a reason to jump on someone.

Tyrith · 05-29-2009, 04:09 PM

Yeah, this game seems like busy Lathum to me. And I think wolf Lathum would probably be slightly more invested. I will think more about him tomorrow, but I have a hard time seeing myself voting for him today over one of the more consistently UTR players.

Lathum · 05-29-2009, 04:10 PM

what is the weekend schedule like?

lerriuqs · 05-29-2009, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny

This is what we have as far as players so far.

Dubb - Claimed Duke, Believed Seer
Saldana - scanned by Dubb
PurdueBrad - Claimed Seer, Believed BG
Chief Rum - Scanned by PB
Tyrith - Scanned by PB
Danny - Claimed Maniac

That leaves us with

Schmidty
Hoopsguy
USFLTecmo
Lerriuqs
ntn
Lathum
Telle
Racer

Our lynch, maniac kill and two scans should come from this group

I'm inclined to go towards Telle myself. Just really UTR for someone who's been active in the other games I've been in.

Danny · 05-29-2009, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

I don't know how many times i can say I was away for the games start and have been swamped with school work. Plus games like this go over my head at times, especialy when I can't dedicate much time to them. I just haven't paid much attention, as I think my play indicates.

You want to lynch me for that so be it, you want to scan me thats cool to. I realize I haven't been nearly as active as usual, which is probably why this thread isn't 40 pages.

That's logical, after this and the one below it I think I'll pass on voting you.

Telle · 05-29-2009, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lerriuqs

I'm inclined to go towards Telle myself. Just really UTR for someone who's been active in the other games I've been in.

Yeah but last game I was rather active and was a wolf. So I don't think my activity level says much either way.

Barkeep49 · 05-29-2009, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

what is the weekend schedule like?

10 PM deadline tonight though it's looking increasingly like I will be late with the results.
Night Deadline is Noon tomorrow
Conditional Orders are accepted

Day 4 ends 10 PM Monday.

Telle · 05-29-2009, 04:28 PM

I'm heading out shortly. The lack of a night kill last night and lerriuqs' claim to be the cultist early in the game have me nervous, so...

VOTE LERRIUQS

Racer · 05-29-2009, 04:29 PM

I've leaving for sister's graduation dinner in a bit. I should be back before heading out for graduation but just in case I'll go ahead and make a vote now.

Vote USFL

Seemed like people were saving him last night (Danny's vote in particular turned the vote from a 5-5 tie to a 6-4 vote in favor of Martin).

Danny · 05-29-2009, 04:31 PM

So who was a likely wolf kill last night? In all likelihood their target turned out to be the cultist and is now a wolf.

The only person from the top half of my list who would be a possibility is Chief Rum, but I think it's unlikely the wolves kill him as it would help to confirm we have the right seer. From the bottom list, I think a Lerriuqs or USFL kill is unlikely. I also think a Racer of Schmidty kill is unlikely with thier little back and forth a little. It could be NTN or Telle, but for some reason my gut tells me Hoopsguy was the cultist and may have been the kill choice last night. I'd prefer it if he were here if I was going to vote him, so I will hold off for now, but that's my thinking.

Racer · 05-29-2009, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum

I am going to go back and

Vote Racer

he is unknown, has a spotty voting record and the way he jumped on me for making the mistake earlier today about USFL made it seem like he was looking for a reason to jump on someone.

I don't really see how my record is much more spotty then anyone else. And if I was really gunning for you I would have voted for you by now (as in prior to you voting for me).

Danny · 05-29-2009, 04:35 PM

Voting so far, I am working from the premise at this point that PB is the real seer.

Day 1

lerriuqs 6 – USFLTecmo (246), MartinD (356), saldana (362), Lathum (376), Hoops (394), Telle (304)
DaddyTorgo 6 – lerriuqs (250), Racer (312), EagleFan (383), Tyrith (411), Dubb (420), Danny (425)
MartinD 1 – Schmidty (306)
EagleFan 2 – ntndeacon (366), PurdueBrad (375)
Schmidty 1 - Chief Rum (378)

Day 2

Martin – lerriuqs (597), Chief (713), Purdue (718), Tyrith (759), Schmidty (776), Danny (782)
Tyrith – Martin (682), saldana (704),
Danny – Lathum (669), Telle (710)
USFL – dubb (738), Racer (742), Hoops (761), NTN (775)

05-29-2009, 03:39 PM	#1001
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	Disbelieve saldana as vengeful wolf. Believe saldana as maniac.

05-29-2009, 03:40 PM	#1002
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Believe Saldana as Maniac Believe Saldana as tough wolf

05-29-2009, 03:41 PM	#1004
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	We need to organize our two night scans and night kill around completely uncleared players and using lists so that there are no repeats

05-29-2009, 03:43 PM	#1006
lerriuqs High School Varsity Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Saskatchewan	Unbelieve Saldana as Brutal wolf Believe Saldana as vengeful wolf

05-29-2009, 03:44 PM	#1007
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Guys, tough wolf is a better ability then Vengeful wolf as the real vengeful wolf can still kill Saldana no problem.

05-29-2009, 03:44 PM	#1008
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Sigh, I just now got comp access about 20 minutes ago. Whatever I do this game seems to draw someone's ire :P I am the maniac. I am the vengeful wolf. I am a flying purple zebra.

05-29-2009, 03:46 PM	#1009
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	Does anyone have a vote count on the believe votes?

05-29-2009, 03:47 PM	#1010
lerriuqs High School Varsity Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Saskatchewan	Ok...I'm confused - why are we going tough wolf or maniac? Question for Barkeep - it mentions "stacking" on the maniac - does that mean only the real maniac if believed can kill anyone or does the believed maniac, regardless of real role have that ability?

05-29-2009, 03:48 PM	#1012
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	Belief votes as of post #1009 3 - saldana as brutal - PurdueBrad (890), Racer (895), Schmidty (952) 2 - saldana as vengeful - USFLTecmo (974), lerriuqs (1006) 4 - saldana as tough wolf - dubb (966), hoopsguy (978), saldana (985), Danny (1002) 1 - Tyrith as maniac - hoopsugy (978) 4 - saldana as maniac - dubb (980), Racer (995), Telle (1001), Danny (1002)

05-29-2009, 03:49 PM	#1014
hoopsguy General Manager Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Chicago	Awesome - the day that I've got some time to play WW my daughter comes down with pinkeye. I'll be on sometime later this evening, after a doctor visit and getting her to bed, to see what needs to be done with believe and vote actions.

05-29-2009, 03:50 PM	#1015
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I believe it means anyone can have the ability, but if I were to become the believed maniac I would have the ability to kill any player and kill one believe player. If we make Saldana the real maniac he needs to use it tonight or else if the wolves kill me (not necessarily a bad idea since it would mean a guarantee of two more scans) he would lose that power.

05-29-2009, 03:52 PM	#1018
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Doesn't PB have to unvote sal as brutal first?

05-29-2009, 03:52 PM	#1019
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	Believe Saldana as Maniac

05-29-2009, 03:52 PM	#1020
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Well, I don't think we want to give saldana maniac, then, as tight as we are on blocks right now. BELIEVE SALDANA AS TOUGH WOLF

05-29-2009, 03:53 PM	#1021
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	This is what we have as far as players so far. Dubb - Claimed Duke, Believed Seer Saldana - scanned by Dubb PurdueBrad - Claimed Seer, Believed BG Chief Rum - Scanned by PB Tyrith - Scanned by PB Danny - Claimed Maniac That leaves us with Schmidty Hoopsguy USFLTecmo Lerriuqs ntn Lathum Telle Racer Our lynch, maniac kill and two scans should come from this group

05-29-2009, 03:55 PM	#1022
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Further, I don't think we are in a big rush to be offing more people, as we can't even seem to begin to figure out who to lynch today.

05-29-2009, 03:55 PM	#1023
lerriuqs High School Varsity Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Saskatchewan	Disbelieve Saldana as vengeful wolf Believe Saldana as Tough wolf

05-29-2009, 03:56 PM	#1025
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	My vote will likely be going towards Lathum or NTN at this point. Lathum's play has seemed off for him so far and NTN is impossible to read becasue he never posts, but one of these times he is going to be a wolf doing that.

05-29-2009, 03:57 PM	#1026
saldana Pro Starter Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bethlehem, Pa	to be honest with you all, i would prefer the tough wolf to any of the others...there arent enough cleared players to make an educated guess at this point to make a move as the maniac

05-29-2009, 03:58 PM	#1027
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	Any thoughts on the lack of a kill last night and the possibility for conversion? I believe both lerriuqs and Racer have claimed to be the cultist. Could one of them have really been it?

05-29-2009, 03:59 PM	#1030
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	Tyrith was PB's scan from today. It was in there posted by PB

05-29-2009, 03:59 PM	#1031
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	believe Saldana as tough wolf

05-29-2009, 04:00 PM	#1033
Danny Head Coach Join Date: Jul 2001	I think we go Maniac today and take our shot. As long as it is planned with our scans so that we do no double up, we can really build a strong trust list and have a more concise list of possible wolves.

05-29-2009, 04:02 PM	#1036
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Part of me still wonders is lerr is the actual cultist and they converted him last night.

05-29-2009, 04:03 PM	#1038
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	Yeah that's what's been going through my head, Tyrith.

05-29-2009, 04:06 PM	#1039
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	I am going to go back and Vote Racer he is unknown, has a spotty voting record and the way he jumped on me for making the mistake earlier today about USFL made it seem like he was looking for a reason to jump on someone.

05-29-2009, 04:09 PM	#1040
Tyrith College Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Houston, TX	Yeah, this game seems like busy Lathum to me. And I think wolf Lathum would probably be slightly more invested. I will think more about him tomorrow, but I have a hard time seeing myself voting for him today over one of the more consistently UTR players.

05-29-2009, 04:10 PM	#1041
Lathum Favored Bitch #1 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: homeless in NJ	what is the weekend schedule like?

05-29-2009, 04:28 PM	#1046
Telle College Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY	I'm heading out shortly. The lack of a night kill last night and lerriuqs' claim to be the cultist early in the game have me nervous, so... VOTE LERRIUQS

05-29-2009, 04:29 PM	#1047
Racer College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana	I've leaving for sister's graduation dinner in a bit. I should be back before heading out for graduation but just in case I'll go ahead and make a vote now. Vote USFL Seemed like people were saving him last night (Danny's vote in particular turned the vote from a 5-5 tie to a 6-4 vote in favor of Martin).