Werewolf LVII: Cathedral (GAME OVER!)

[saldana]

i just made it a tie...cronin still has one of his own votes...neon, i think you should switch

[Neon_Chaos]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

That's about what we thought they were. That means you should be killing demons. I'm throwing you a bone here.

Sorry, no can do. I can't take that chance. I have to go with my gut here. Just as everyone else has to, right now.

[saldana]

neon...here is the thing...the "ni'on" thing could not have been coincidence...the i and e keys are no where near each other...it had to have been intentional

no way the other demon would have come out and revelead as the other angel, because even if they get us to lynch gabriel tonight, we now know who BOTH of them are, and they arent any closer to victory since the angels dont count in the ratio...

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Sorry, no can do. I can't take that chance. I have to go with my gut here. Just as everyone else has to, right now.

Do you mean you can't take the chance that I'm lying, or something else?

[Neon_Chaos]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Do you mean you can't take the chance that I'm lying, or something else?

Sorry, but I can't take the chance that you're lying. I already cast my vote, if you want to take others' votes, go ahead. I don't want to end up looking like a fool when I switch and it turns out Anxiety is the good guy.

We get Lucifer either way, today or tomorrow. I'd rather stick with my gut right now.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Sorry, but I can't take the chance that you're lying. I already cast my vote, if you want to take others' votes, go ahead. I don't want to end up looking like a fool when I switch and it turns out Anxiety is the good guy.

We get Lucifer either way, today or tomorrow. I'd rather stick with my gut right now.

If I'm the demon, why did I put in orders to do work FIRST THING this morning! Wouldn't I want to keep myself available for voting?

[saldana]

Originally Posted by saldana

no way the other demon would have come out and revelead as the other angel, because even if they get us to lynch gabriel tonight, we now know who BOTH of them are, and they arent any closer to victory since the angels dont count in the ratio...

i quote myself just to reinforce this to Our Lords leader on Earth....in the name of our Father, your grace, i implore you to reconsider, for i fear your are about to commit a serious transgression against warriors of God.

[Neon_Chaos]

Originally Posted by saldana

i quote myself just to reinforce this to Our Lords leader on Earth....in the name of our Father, your grace, i implore you to reconsider, for i fear your are about to commit a serious transgression against warriors of God.

UNLESS the end game is today, and they can afford to take that risk.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by path12

Mason: Schmidty -- I think he's likely to be a demon.

Why?

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

UNLESS the end game is today, and they can afford to take that risk.

How could the end game be today?

Look, if you're not going to switch because of your victory conditions, that's fine. But don't front that I'm lying.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

UNLESS the end game is today, and they can afford to take that risk.

I would be shocked if there is anyway the game can end today

[saldana]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

UNLESS the end game is today, and they can afford to take that risk.

highly unlikely...if there are only two angels, then there are only two demons

[PurdueBrad]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

Sorry, no can do. I can't take that chance. I have to go with my gut here. Just as everyone else has to, right now.

Neon, I have kind of a different kind of question for you. You're the bishop and you have your own winset that needs us to get the demons. However, if we still finish the cathedral tonight and survive the day, we're gold. How does you outing a demon tonight help you keep the game going if we're in the midst of finishing the cathedral? Do you have the ability to sabotage us or are you possibly leading us away from a demon to sabotage us? I have no read in the Anxiety vs. Cronin thing, but am curious why, if you need us not to finish the cathedral, you would out a demon when you kind of need their help at this point to keep the game going.

[Schmidty]

I slept until 3:30 today and then had to run some errands.

I see that I have some votes. I don't understand why. Should I do a reveal? I've tried not to be inconspicuous because I know that I'm important to the building of the Church.

Anyway, no matter what, I'm not using either of my actions to vote for a person, because I want to win.

Speaking of that: Can I work on a part of the building that's already done (unless it specifically says it can't be destroyed)?

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

I slept until 3:30 today and then had to run some errands.

I see that I have some votes. I don't understand why. Should I do a reveal? I've tried not to be inconspicuous because I know that I'm important to the building of the Church.

Anyway, no matter what, I'm not using either of my actions to vote for a person, because I want to win.

Speaking of that: Can I work on a part of the building that's already done (unless it specifically says it can't be destroyed)?

That should be "I tried to be inconspicuous".

[Lathum]

Schmidty, you have noting to worry about today. You are in no danger of being lynched

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Lathum

Schmidty, you have noting to worry about today. You are in no danger of being lynched

Ok. I'm just catching up.

[Neon_Chaos]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I would be shocked if there is anyway the game can end today

I don't know if I count against the villager ratio, considering I owe no alliegiance to any faction. If the demons converted someone last night and if I don't count as a villager (unlikely as it sounds), then this IS end game.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

I slept until 3:30 today and then had to run some errands.

I see that I have some votes. I don't understand why. Should I do a reveal? I've tried not to be inconspicuous because I know that I'm important to the building of the Church.

Anyway, no matter what, I'm not using either of my actions to vote for a person, because I want to win.

Speaking of that: Can I work on a part of the building that's already done (unless it specifically says it can't be destroyed)?

You can, but if you catch up, you'll see that your votes are needed to save Gabriel.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

I don't know if I count against the villager ratio, considering I owe no alliegiance to any faction. If the demons converted someone last night and if I don't count as a villager (unlikely as it sounds), then this IS end game.

You're proposing to Lathum that there was a conversion?

[saldana]

there are 12 people alive...if you dont count...that makes 11...if 2 are angels and 2 are demons, that leaves 7 villagers.

even if there are 3 of each, that is 5 to 3 and as long as a villager is not the target tonight, we are safe until tomorrow night.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos

I don't know if I count against the villager ratio, considering I owe no alliegiance to any faction. If the demons converted someone last night and if I don't count as a villager (unlikely as it sounds), then this IS end game.

If there is still an oppritunity for a conversion with the cultist dead then this game was lost from the start.

[Schmidty]

I should have roleplayed in this game. Unfortunately, I had no idea how to roleplay a mason. Maybe I could have declared my unhealthy love of bricks or something.

[Alan T]

i havent caught up on posts just posting on my phone to say I wont be around until close to deadline back later

[st.cronin]

The conversation's gone about the way I expected. Even if you all lynch me today, that will still be good for the angels, village, and Bishop.

VOTE ANXIETY

[st.cronin]

If Alan really is the Duke, he's going to be in a tough spot.

[Schmidty]

So, as I asked above, can I work on something that is done, to further thwart any attempt at destruction during the night?

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

So, as I asked above, can I work on something that is done, to further thwart any attempt at destruction during the night?

As I answered above, yes, but you might want to vote to save Gabriel instead.

[st.cronin]

By the way: it should be clear that saldana and Neon were communicating on day 2. Saldana said, several times, that he was going to vote with the Bishop. I posted "Nion Chaos," and cast a vote. Saldana IMMEDIATELY changed his vote to match mine, before Neon even did.

So, saldana obviously knew about the Ni clue on that day.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

As I answered above, yes, but you might want to vote to save Gabriel instead.

Ok, I didn't see that. My bad.

Honestly, I think that me voting for a person, unless it totally assures us of winning, is a waste.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Schmidty

Ok, I didn't see that. My bad.

Honestly, I think that me voting for a person, unless it totally assures us of winning, is a waste.

Well it's currently a 7-7 tie. While I would like the security of doubling up, I'm actually confident that PB is going to do it right, and I know I will. I think the other one working on it is path? That one's a bit sketchy, since his vote is on cronin. But it might just be that he hasn't checked in yet.

[Schmidty]

So, voting Anxiety instead of st. cronin is essential to us winning? If so, I'll do it.

[st.cronin]

Ok, I'm heading out. This has turned out perfectly; my main worry in revealing was that, because I wasn't able to name him, it would be unclear who Lucifer actually was. But lynch him today, or tomorrow, and we're in good shape.

[saldana]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

By the way: it should be clear that saldana and Neon were communicating on day 2. Saldana said, several times, that he was going to vote with the Bishop. I posted "Nion Chaos," and cast a vote. Saldana IMMEDIATELY changed his vote to match mine, before Neon even did.

So, saldana obviously knew about the Ni clue on that day.

this is wrong...i have never been in contact with the bishop.

i already explained that i thought the bishop had the ability to read the truth of someone elses statement in the thread and that is how he knew that our vote for DaddyTorgo was wrong on day one.

[Schmidty]

Fine.

VOTE ANXIETY

[Abe Sargent]

I thought pass's buddying up to cronin earlier int eh game was just as a villager, but it makes sense that you are a demon.

Hey, at least my death will bring about truth here.

Pass, it was uninventive to claim you were Michah after I already psoted that Michah was in teh game and on my side.

[saldana]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

I thought pass's buddying up to cronin earlier int eh game was just as a villager, but it makes sense that you are a demon.

Hey, at least my death will bring about truth here.

Pass, it was uninventive to claim you were Michah after I already psoted that Michah was in teh game and on my side.

if pass is lying, why hasnt the "real" michah come out and called him on it.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Anxiety

I thought pass's buddying up to cronin earlier int eh game was just as a villager, but it makes sense that you are a demon.

Hey, at least my death will bring about truth here.

Pass, it was uninventive to claim you were Michah after I already psoted that Michah was in teh game and on my side.

What can I say, you got a lucky guess?

If you want to prove me wrong, up the ante. Shouldn't one of the real angels be saying that I'm wrong?

[Passacaglia]

Not only that, I'd like to know what you mean by buddying up.

[Passacaglia]

Heading out -- don't know if I will be back by deadline, but I think I've made my point.

[Passacaglia]

Originally Posted by Passacaglia

Heading out -- don't know if I will be back by deadline, but I think I've made my point.

Wow, I guess I have.

[Lathum]

lol

[Abe Sargent]

Just got back from dsinner and I am sad to see my post missing from about 50 minuites ago when I left. I posted and then got up, but when I returned, teh page still had that post up and was still "thinking" about posting.

So my post is gone, and I thought it was pretty decent.

I dont want my co-angels to reveal. Everybody will know in 15 minutes or so.

[Abe Sargent]

Well, my puter says 10. Catch ya'll at the end of the game.

[Passacaglia]

Good result on the vote. Now hopefully path didn't screw up his work -- but if he did, that would certainly out him, so that seems unlikely.

[oliegirl]

Just got home and caught up, hopefully we ended up lynching the right person tonight...I guess we are just waiting on BK to get here and post results, right?

[Barkeep49]

Deadline comes around. The village is on its toes. Rocks are taken up. Anxiety begins to run, when there is a trumpet. The kitchen boy from the Castle comes out.

"Uh. I have this uh pronouncement. Seem the lord leige declared before he went to sleep... I mean before he attended to buisness, that Lathum, the Knight, was to be killed today."

Lathum protests and fights off the first couple of soldiers who attack him, but their numbers are too much.

Alas it appears that he was on the side of good. And the ferocity with which he fought of the guards tells you that if he had been attacked by the demons (or anyone else for that matter) he'd like have been able to fight them off once.

ou are the Knight:
Daring. Handsome. Strong. That’s you. A little lazy, perhaps, but hey when you have your skills who cares?

Twice during the game (on 2 separate days) you may publicly instruct the Page either to vote (but not who to vote for) or to work on the Cathderal (but not what to work on). This should be done in the game thread. You are a villager.

In better news the Cathedral is finished. Hopefully you can keep it standing.

Walls - Finished
Roof - Completed (May take no further damage)
Windows - Finished
Artwork - Completed (May take no further damage)
Carpentry - Finished

[Barkeep49]

Actions for the day:

Artwork – Pass (803), Pass (803), Purdue (804), path (982)
Carpentry – Purdue (804)

Anxiety – st.cronin (917), Mr. W (953), Mr. W (953), Lathum (964), Lathum (964), saldana (999), saldana (999), cronin (1025), schmidty (1035)
Cronin – Neon (940), Neon (940), olie (956), olie (956), Anxiety (963), Anxiety (963), path (982)

Unused actions:
Alan T 2
Schmidty 1

[Lathum]

I love the way AlanT plays and have the utmost respect for his play but that was one of the biggest bonehead plays ever made

[PurdueBrad]

I'm out for the night but hopefully, with some angelic help, the cathedral lasts the evening.