Werewolf XLIII - The Big City (Game over)

[SnDvls]

vote St. Cronin

to keep it tied and everyone honest

[st.cronin]

Path goes up a notch in my trust list, fwiw.

[path12]

Following up on what Blade said and the edition of the paper with the Forbes article: Cronin's victory condition is that the mafia boss dies; he has a nice ring but not necessarily the nicest; he has an unlisted role and he supposedly has a decent amount of money. Does that sound like mafia heir to anyone else?

[Dr. Sak]

I am a little skeptical about trusting Blade but he does make some good points. But there are a few other people flying under the radar that I want to check out. I have to reread some more. I have been skimming all day and between the people being here to finish my kitchen and doing work from home my day has been hectic. Right now I am leaning towards Cronin.

[SnDvls]

is no one going to mention that Tyrith is missing????

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Jonathan Ezarik - Lathum (873), ImTheCrew (920), Kingfc (979)

Interesting set of people voting for me. ITC, who was a late vote for ntn yesterday. Kingfc, who didn't vote at all yesterday. And Lathum, who voted for me yesterday without giving a reason.

I'm not sure what to make of all this. I have a role that, despite being good, benefits both the good citizens of this fine city, and the members of the mafia. I can't imagine why anyone would want me killed.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

is no one going to mention that Tyrith is missing????

I alluded to it. Path and him were going at it. I'm not really sure. It would be very crafty of path to kill Tyrith right after an argument (ping: Lathum and Blade).

[path12]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

is no one going to mention that Tyrith is missing????

It looks like the bad guys struck. I don't know what else to say about it, especially since he and I got into it earlier.

[st.cronin]

Screw it, I'm going with my gut.

unvote Jonathan E
vote path 12

If you all want to lynch me, go ahead. But you're being manipulated by somebody, and its not me.

[path12]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Path goes up a notch in my trust list, fwiw.

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Screw it, I'm going with my gut.

unvote Jonathan E
vote path 12

If you all want to lynch me, go ahead. But you're being manipulated by somebody, and its not me.

Huh?

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by path12

Huh?

I changed my mind. My reflexive action was that you were being set up. But I think I've seen it the other way more often, where it just looked like somebody was being set up.

[Alan T]

The Big City Herald
Edition 11

Ransom!

The story first broke to you by the Big City Herald has now officially taken a turn for the abnormal. It appears initial signs are that Tyrith might actually still be alive. An unidentified source has told the Herald that a ransom demand has been placed for Tyrith to be returned to his family alive. We currently have no confirmed response for what the demand actually was, but one family member was over heard saying,"Ransom? Heck, you can keep him."

Basketball underway

The Villanova, Uconn game has just gotten underway in Big City's own arena. The early score currently has the Wildcats over the Huskies 6-2. We have no confirmation however to the rumor that local bookies have guns pointed at the head of the Uconn players if they decide to try to pull an upset in this one.

Mob roars its ugly head

Just like yesterday as reports of more crime break, the mood among the normally docile people of Big City start to get aggrivated. Down in the town square, some are overheard shouting,"We want his head! We want his head!" The Herald currently isn't sure if the person referred to here is one of the current Big City's own residents or some obscure Britney Spears reference. Currently it appears the mob is targeting its anger at people who have nice rings or people who have last names that begin with E.

[path12]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I changed my mind. My reflexive action was that you were being set up. But I think I've seen it the other way more often, where it just looked like somebody was being set up.

That's cool. I now think you're likely the mafia heir for the reasons I noted above, so I'll change my mind also.

UNVOTE SWAGGS
VOTE ST CRONIN

[Dr. Sak]

I am getting busy filling out an NCAA poll. I am going to keep an eye on the proceedings but I want to make sure I at least vote. So i am going with my initial statement.

VOTE ST CRONIN

[st.cronin]

Well, this isn't going quite the way I expected. I'm not getting lynched today. My order has been sent. #2 man gets lynched.

[hoopsguy]

Hmmm, wonder if the Saint could be bluffing to try and avoid more votes? But if he isn't, then I'm basically letting other people decide who gets mob action by voting for him, and I don't like that much either.

Going to check on something and then cast a vote.

[hoopsguy]

Among the wealthiest in our town are a Pawnshop owner, the heir to the mafia family, the Banker, one of our very own police detectives and a doctor. Forbes does admit that a few individuals may have asked to not be included in the survey however for whatever personal reasons.

Random observation - why would a police detective be rolling in cash?

We know that Barkeep49 has switched stories about his wealth, while saying his role was not that interesting. I'm thinking bluff, just a matter of whether it is for good or bad. But he hasn't given me any reasons with his posts to change from where I was headed yesterday when I questioned his truthfulness. And I'm not the most tolerant person for people who say one thing to your face, then do another behind your back. Because they are liable to stab you in it ...

VOTE BARKEEP49

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Random observation - why would a police detective be rolling in cash?

It does sound crazy, doesn't it.

[st.cronin]

I'm starting to think there's a conspiracy against me. Well, I will prevail.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Tyrith

Or there is one hacker attempting to cover himself. But User 14 admitted they are a hacker.

Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

The same person hinted at having a limited duke-type ability in an earlier post.

st. cronin, it sounds like you have a duke-type ability. Hacker skills as well?

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I'm starting to think there's a conspiracy against me. Well, I will prevail.

Welcome to the club - I live my life KNOWING there is a conspiracy against me

[Abe Sargent]

I haven't gotten caught up, but I have reported a crime that should appear momentarily, and I wanted to get that posted before I get caught up.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

So I have a feeling that a certain player knows my role. I am ready to reveal if a player steps up and says that they suspect what role I have. I will not reveal their role, simply mine.

This was right before the deadline last night, when you were not in any danger of being lynched by the mob. No one emerged to suggest they knew your role, and you have not commented on it since. So why did you put this offer out there? What were you looking to gain?

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

st. cronin, it sounds like you have a duke-type ability. Hacker skills as well?

Not necessarily. Hoops, I'm trying very hard to clue people in. I'm not a fan of lynching Barkeep, but I'll vote him if I have to. I think there are better candidates out there.

I'm not out to get you, hoops guy.

[hoopsguy]

Why is Barkeep49 low on your list, st. cronin?

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

st. cronin, it sounds like you have a duke-type ability. Hacker skills as well?

I don't think st. cronin is the same as User 14. I think the duke ability for the hacker was only for yesterday's vote. According to the underground board, it looks like that player (possible hacker) will get the ability again tomorrow.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

For the record, I have voted for Hoopsguy as judge. I'm kind of concerned that he's been hacked twice, though. What worries me is that he could be blackmailed if there was something juicy discovered by the hackers.

[Swaggs]

Interesting stuff, as I catch up.

As much as I disagree with Path's angle today, particularly with his logic regarding the judge, I don't think he would have come out against me so vocally if he were mafia, so I'm holding off against giving him a counter-vote.

[hoopsguy]

If I can be blackmailed in this game, I don't know about it. Then again, I have no idea what was on my computer

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by hoopsguy

Welcome to the club - I live my life KNOWING there is a conspiracy against me

Why is Barkeep49 low on your list, st. cronin?

Do you look for clues in every innocuous post?

[st.cronin]

unvote path
vote Jonathan E

Call me paranoid.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Lathum

OK, I submitted my vote for H--PSG--Y for judge.

I just realized what is awesome about this - Lathum can't even spell in Hangman!

[Blade6119]

lol, cronin...now i know why you wanted to go to your death silently..because you dont plan on dying. So who in this town would have power enough to change a lynch? Not too many, but id imagine its not a good only power

[Jonathan Ezarik]

VOTE ST. CRONIN

I would rather vote for Lathum, ITC, or kingfc, but I've got to protect myself.

[Swaggs]

Hoops (and others), are you aware that you have access to a computer or did the crimes reveal it to you?

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

lol, cronin...now i know why you wanted to go to your death silently..because you dont plan on dying. So who in this town would have power enough to change a lynch? Not too many, but id imagine its not a good only power

do we want to challenge him on this or take the power from him now by mixing it up?

if he's lying he goes anyhow
if he's telling the truth and the #2 guy goes we need to be sure that we believe #2 is bad too.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

lol, cronin...now i know why you wanted to go to your death silently..because you dont plan on dying. So who in this town would have power enough to change a lynch? Not too many, but id imagine its not a good only power

I think at this point if a seer came out and said I was cleared, and that seer was then lynched and Alan said that player was a seer, you would still be suspicious of me. That's cool. I don't get it, but it's cool. You're not paranoid if they're really out to get you.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Hoops (and others), are you aware that you have access to a computer or did the crimes reveal it to you?

I got the impression, wrongly perhaps, they had no idea.

Much like rings...you all have one, but you dont know about it

[Swaggs]

Anyone have a current vote count?

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Hoops (and others), are you aware that you have access to a computer or did the crimes reveal it to you?

I think the rules mention that everyone can join the underground message board.....I did it yesterday. And Alan's day 1 newspaper 1 talked about the $100 to join.

[Jonathan Ezarik]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

do we want to challenge him on this or take the power from him now by mixing it up?

if he's lying he goes anyhow
if he's telling the truth and the #2 guy goes we need to be sure that we believe #2 is bad too.

If #2 refers to me, I sure hope not. For the well being of Big City, it's vital that I remain.

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by Swaggs

Hoops (and others), are you aware that you have access to a computer or did the crimes reveal it to you?

I first learned of it when I was hacked the first time. I was already painfully aware of it when I was hacked the second time

(goes to check on computer, wonders why it is still intact)

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

I think at this point if a seer came out and said I was cleared, and that seer was then lynched and Alan said that player was a seer, you would still be suspicious of me. That's cool. I don't get it, but it's cool. You're not paranoid if they're really out to get you.

See, now your just being a sour puss...your ring was unique, it showed you had money..you would not come out and say you had a lot of money, and even tried to guess you would have no ring. If your good, then im sorry for screwing up your game. But i dont think you changing a lynch means much when alan said their were multiple roles that could effect who got lynched.

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Jonathan Ezarik

VOTE ST. CRONIN

I would rather vote for Lathum, ITC, or kingfc, but I've got to protect myself.

Deal.

unvote Jonathan E


your move

[Jonathan Ezarik]

UNVOTE ST. CRONIN

[hoopsguy]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

I think the rules mention that everyone can join the underground message board.....I did it yesterday. And Alan's day 1 newspaper 1 talked about the $100 to join.

An early newpaper article indicated that 55% (11 out of our 20 original people) had joined. And obviously more could as they decided to spend money. So more people than not are hooked into this.

[SnDvls]

Originally Posted by st.cronin

Well, this isn't going quite the way I expected. I'm not getting lynched today. My order has been sent. #2 man gets lynched.

here's what St. C said so JE if the vote count puts you at #2 then it would be you. Again assuming St. C isn't lying either.

[Blade6119]

Originally Posted by SnDvls

do we want to challenge him on this or take the power from him now by mixing it up?

if he's lying he goes anyhow
if he's telling the truth and the #2 guy goes we need to be sure that we believe #2 is bad too.

I say he force him to use the power, and still have a seer go after him later. If hes evil, hes the mafia boss or mafia heir. Both would have tons of power, and be able to change a vote. Getting this power out of the way now is good for us(as if he is good, evil will just night kill him later if need be)

[st.cronin]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

I say he force him to use the power, and still have a seer go after him later. If hes evil, hes the mafia boss or mafia heir. Both would have tons of power, and be able to change a vote. Getting this power out of the way now is good for us(as if he is good, evil will just night kill him later if need be)

First of all, I'm not the mafia heir. But why do we assume that the mafia heir is bad? Isn't it at least plausible that he would be neutral, with win conditions that the village would want to keep intact?

[Swaggs]

Originally Posted by Blade6119

I say he force him to use the power, and still have a seer go after him later. If hes evil, hes the mafia boss or mafia heir. Both would have tons of power, and be able to change a vote. Getting this power out of the way now is good for us(as if he is good, evil will just night kill him later if need be)

Agreed.

I never have a problem with the duke revealing early, as all can tell from past games. I may have to switch it out of defense, but right now...

Vote st. cronin