The Official NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs Thread - Page 21

DaddyTorgo · 06-14-2011, 09:55 AM

Do we know if Raymond was okay? That looked pretty painful - going ass-first completely unprotected into the boards like that.

DaddyTorgo · 06-14-2011, 09:57 AM

Ugh...yikes

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Raymond had Boychuk's stick caught between his legs when he was awkwardly run backwards into the boards. He remained face down on the ice for several minutes before being helped off the surface and was then transported to hospital for further evaluation. The play went unpenalized and the furious Canucks called for a league review because it has been speculated that Raymond could be sidelined four to six months with a fractured vertebra and miss the start of next season. The review is not expected to occur.

I don't know my rulebook, but was that boarding? Was there a penalty to be called there?

On just watching it, as a Bruins fan obviously, it just seemed like an unfortunate accidental "worst case scenario" where you've got two guys battling for position, one gets wrapped around the other's stick and then checked into the boards, only because he's wrapped around the stick funny and off-balance he can't take the hit the way he normally would.

But if it ought to have been penalized, by all means, educate me and I'll jump right on board with that.

Honolulu_Blue · 06-14-2011, 10:06 AM

I don't think it was boarding. It was just a very unfortunate and akward type of hit. No penalty was called. Boarding is almost always (only?) called when a player gets hit from behind and into the boards. Here, Raymond has his back to the board and was bent over facing Boychuck who then checked him into the boards. It was because of the way he was bent over that the injury occurred.

It sucks about the injury. It really does. Back stuff is always scary, but I don't see how it was a penalty or what the league would review.

DaddyTorgo · 06-14-2011, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

I don't think it was boarding. It was just a very unfortunate and akward type of hit. No penalty was called. Boarding is almost always (only?) called when a player gets hit from behind and into the boards. Here, Raymond has his back to the board and was bent over facing Boychuck who then checked him into the boards. It was because of the way he was bent over that the injury occurred.

It sucks about the injury. It really does. Back stuff is always scary, but I don't see how it was a penalty or what the league would review.

That's what I thought re: boarding and the nature of the hit and all. Just very very unfortunate and awkward, but not sure how you'd call a penalty or review it.

Don't like to see anyone injured. Particularly back stuff.

Logan · 06-14-2011, 10:13 AM

I grew up in NJ, where you get your driver's license at 17. Undoubtedly, there's a kid walking out of an NJ DMV today proudly clutching his new badge of freedom.

He was born on the day the Rangers won their last Stanley Cup.

Chubby · 06-14-2011, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Logan

I grew up in NJ, where you get your driver's license at 17. Undoubtedly, there's a kid walking out of an NJ DMV today proudly clutching his new badge of freedom.

He was born on the day the Rangers won their last Stanley Cup.

wait til you see how many kids are getting their license 9 months from now

britrock88 · 06-14-2011, 10:59 AM

That GIF is a good argument for the idea that penalties should carry over from game to game in a playoff series.

Sedin takes Marchand's nonsense because he doesn't want to spoil the PP he has coming. Remember how in school and other places, even acting in your own defense gets you punished to the same extent as the aggressor? That's the assumption he's working under. So failing to react to Marchand shouldn't impugn Sedin.

Fidatelo · 06-14-2011, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by britrock88

That GIF is a good argument for the idea that penalties should carry over from game to game in a playoff series.

Sedin takes Marchand's nonsense because he doesn't want to spoil the PP he has coming. Remember how in school and other places, even acting in your own defense gets you punished to the same extent as the aggressor? That's the assumption he's working under. So failing to react to Marchand shouldn't impugn Sedin.

A couple counter-points:
1) In those scrums you can generally do anything short of dropping the gloves and get away with it. Certainly blocking a punch or tying up the other guy will not get you a penalty.
2) This was essentially garbage time. If there was ever a time to defend yourself and prove you aren't a bitch, this was it.

johnnyshaka · 06-14-2011, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Yikes. i thought "all of Canada was united behind Vancouver" or some BS like that.

Uhm, not a chance in hell...GO BRUINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dr. Sak · 06-14-2011, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan

I grew up in NJ, where you get your driver's license at 17. Undoubtedly, there's a kid walking out of an NJ DMV today proudly clutching his new badge of freedom.

He was born on the day the Rangers won their last Stanley Cup.

At least you were alive the last time your team won a cup

DaddyTorgo · 06-14-2011, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnyshaka

Uhm, not a chance in hell...GO BRUINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hehe

Thnx from down south!

AgustusM · 06-14-2011, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Fidatelo

I can't believe Sedin just stood there and took those punches. What a puss. I can understand wanting to avoid the nonsense after the whistle, but you have to at least have some respect for yourself. Push back, try to block it, something, ANYTHING! I would have trouble playing with a guy like that. Sure, you want to stand up for your star guys and shelter them, but you can't do everything for them. If Sedin isn't willing to even remotely stand up for himself, why should his linemates do it for him?

Between stuff like that and all the faking of injuries and other douchiness, I have just one thing to say before game 7:

Go Boston.

I would have to agree, but as a Sharks fan I had already built up a pretty good lack of respect for the Cannucks from the last series.

I will say it is odd, the Rome hit is the play that they will play over and over for years as being the defining moment of the series and I found that to be one of the least offensive things Vancouver did.

bronconick · 06-14-2011, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

At least you were alive the last time your team won a cup

What's a Stanley Cup Final?

/Sharks fan.

molson · 06-14-2011, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bronconick

What's a Stanley Cup Final?

/Sharks fan.

Hey, it was quite the accomplishment to pull that off in NHLPA '93 for the Genesis - it would say something like "the feistiest fish win the cup!" when you won the cup with them. Not the most exciting easter egg/win screen at the time, though it seemed that way somehow.

Suburban Rhythm · 06-14-2011, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

At least you were alive the last time your team won a cup

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Originally Posted by bronconick

What's a Stanley Cup Final?

/Sharks fan.

Well, they've only awarded the thing 5 times since the league started back in '05.

/Pens fan

Ronnie Dobbs2 · 06-15-2011, 10:31 AM

Maple Leafs on Game 7

johnnyshaka · 06-15-2011, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2

Maple Leafs on Game 7

Was just about to post this, too...great stuff, Sean.

bhlloy · 06-15-2011, 10:49 AM

I thought the last DGB was one of the best (if not the best) I've read, but that one is great as well. You are on a roll ML.

How to present the Stanley Cup

Draft Dodger · 06-15-2011, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bhlloy

I thought the last DGB was one of the best (if not the best) I've read, but that one is great as well. You are on a roll ML.

How to present the Stanley Cup

that's a beaut

Honolulu_Blue · 06-15-2011, 12:31 PM

It really is fantastic. Great work as always, ML.

DaddyTorgo · 06-15-2011, 12:32 PM

Hilarious!

Fidatelo · 06-15-2011, 12:44 PM

I emailed that one to all my friends. Super good.

Maple Leafs · 06-15-2011, 03:58 PM

Thanks guys... wasn't expecting this one to crazy like it did, but glad people seemed to enjoy it.

DaddyTorgo · 06-15-2011, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Maple Leafs

Thanks guys... wasn't expecting this one to crazy like it did, but glad people seemed to enjoy it.

Is crazy up there in Canadia?

johnnyshaka · 06-15-2011, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Is crazy up there in Canadia?

I've had half a dozen calls from buddies to play hockey tonight because guys are bailing to watch the game...and the Oilers aren't even involved. Heck, in my neck of the woods, the Canucks are a very close second to most hated team right behind the Flames...so, I'd say we like our Stanley Cup hockey up here.

For the record, I said no to all the offers to play hockey tonight...AND, I was working until 3am this morning and I fully intend to watch the game and enjoy several brewskies.

SirFozzie · 06-15-2011, 05:36 PM

DGB is getting mentioned everywhere, from DVDVR

April/May/June NHL thread - Death Valley Driver Video Review Message Board

to grantland:

Dear Hockey Idiot: Here Are Answers to All Your Questions About Game 7. You're Welcome. - The Triangle Blog

And Simmons just tweeted this. Never mind my fucked up knee, I want to run through a brick wall now.

Dr. Sak · 06-15-2011, 06:11 PM

Great stuff as always Sean!

Dr. Sak · 06-15-2011, 07:12 PM

Didn't realize Recchi said this would be his last game...

Dr. Sak · 06-15-2011, 07:19 PM

I love it when the crowd sings O Canada

Suburban Rhythm · 06-15-2011, 07:37 PM

If VAN continues getting these chances without scoring and then Luongo gives up a softie, it's over.

DaddyTorgo · 06-15-2011, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm

If VAN continues getting these chances without scoring and then Luongo gives up a softie, it's over.

Keep talking please?

Bergeron!!

Long long way from over though.

DaddyTorgo · 06-15-2011, 07:44 PM

More traffic in front of Luongo and more shots on goal please...

SirFozzie · 06-15-2011, 07:49 PM

Home Team 6-0
First Team Scoring 6-0

SOMEONE'S O MUST GO!

SirFozzie · 06-15-2011, 07:55 PM

Uh oh, Chara takes an elbow up high..

DaddyTorgo · 06-15-2011, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

Uh oh, Chara takes an elbow up high..

He seemed to be fine.

SirFozzie · 06-15-2011, 08:06 PM

You ever get the feeling the NHL issued a directive to the refs to let em go at it tonight.. reminds me of the line before the climactic game in Rollerball (the original):

"Tonight's Championship final will be played with no substitutions, no penalties.. and no time limits!"

DaddyTorgo · 06-15-2011, 08:17 PM

OMG...I thought that was in. Can we get a look at that on replay in the next stoppage please?!?!?!

Oh okay - totally not. Damnit!!!

SirFozzie · 06-15-2011, 08:18 PM

Marchand rings the post.

Dr. Sak · 06-15-2011, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

You ever get the feeling the NHL issued a directive to the refs to let em go at it tonight.. reminds me of the line before the climactic game in Rollerball (the original):

"Tonight's Championship final will be played with no substitutions, no penalties.. and no time limits!"

Just like Game 7 against the Lightning.

SirFozzie · 06-15-2011, 08:31 PM

The few seconds..

"NO, CHARA! ARRRGGHHH YES CHARA!!! WHEW!"

DaddyTorgo · 06-15-2011, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SirFozzie

The few seconds..

"NO, CHARA! ARRRGGHHH YES CHARA!!! WHEW!"

Exactly

Dr. Sak · 06-15-2011, 08:33 PM

Looks like Thomas is going to get a shutout

SirFozzie · 06-15-2011, 08:35 PM

Man, the ESPN.Com chat is just doing everything short of coronation on Tyler Seguin.. they're saying he's going to be a Top 10 player within four years. I don't know about that, at least he is playing better..

DaddyTorgo · 06-15-2011, 08:36 PM

MARCHAND!!

SirFozzie · 06-15-2011, 08:36 PM

That's two! Keep it up!

bhlloy · 06-15-2011, 08:37 PM

Own goal Luongo. He just looks very tentative tonight.

Dr. Sak · 06-15-2011, 08:42 PM

I'm convinced someone in the Bruins' brass made a deal with the devil.

DaddyTorgo · 06-15-2011, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Sak

I'm convinced someone in the Bruins' brass made a deal with the devil.

What's the price they had to pay? Might be worth it...

SirFozzie · 06-15-2011, 08:42 PM

Wow, they let the flying elbow go but call that? Ok.. Time for a PK, bruins!

SirFozzie · 06-15-2011, 08:46 PM

SHORTIE! OR A PENALTY SHOT!

06-14-2011, 10:06 AM	#1003
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	I don't think it was boarding. It was just a very unfortunate and akward type of hit. No penalty was called. Boarding is almost always (only?) called when a player gets hit from behind and into the boards. Here, Raymond has his back to the board and was bent over facing Boychuck who then checked him into the boards. It was because of the way he was bent over that the injury occurred. It sucks about the injury. It really does. Back stuff is always scary, but I don't see how it was a penalty or what the league would review. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

06-15-2011, 10:31 AM	#1016
Ronnie Dobbs2 Pro Rookie Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Bahston Mass	Maple Leafs on Game 7 __________________ There's no I in Teamocil, at least not where you'd think Last edited by Ronnie Dobbs2 : 06-15-2011 at 10:32 AM.

06-15-2011, 12:31 PM	#1020
Honolulu_Blue Hockey Boy Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Royal Oak, MI	It really is fantastic. Great work as always, ML. __________________ *Steve Yzerman*: 1,755 points in 1,514 regular season games. 185 points in 196 postseason games. A First-Team All-Star, Conn Smythe Trophy winner, Selke Trophy winner, Masterton Trophy winner, member of the Hockey Hall of Fame, Olympic gold medallist, and a three-time Stanley Cup Champion. Longest serving captain of one team in the history of the NHL (19 seasons).

06-15-2011, 12:44 PM	#1022
Fidatelo Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Winnipeg, MB	I emailed that one to all my friends. Super good. __________________ "Breakfast? Breakfast schmekfast, look at the score for God's sake. It's only the second period and I'm winning 12-2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, the Whale, they only beat Vancouver maybe once or twice in a lifetime."

06-15-2011, 03:58 PM	#1023
Maple Leafs Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2002	Thanks guys... wasn't expecting this one to crazy like it did, but glad people seemed to enjoy it. __________________ Down Goes Brown: Toronto Maple Leafs Humor and Analysis

06-14-2011, 09:55 AM	#1001
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Do we know if Raymond was okay? That looked pretty painful - going ass-first completely unprotected into the boards like that.

06-14-2011, 10:13 AM	#1005
Logan Head Coach Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: NYC	I grew up in NJ, where you get your driver's license at 17. Undoubtedly, there's a kid walking out of an NJ DMV today proudly clutching his new badge of freedom. He was born on the day the Rangers won their last Stanley Cup.

06-14-2011, 10:59 AM	#1007
britrock88 Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Madison, WI	That GIF is a good argument for the idea that penalties should carry over from game to game in a playoff series. Sedin takes Marchand's nonsense because he doesn't want to spoil the PP he has coming. Remember how in school and other places, even acting in your own defense gets you punished to the same extent as the aggressor? That's the assumption he's working under. So failing to react to Marchand shouldn't impugn Sedin.

06-15-2011, 10:49 AM	#1018
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	I thought the last DGB was one of the best (if not the best) I've read, but that one is great as well. You are on a roll ML. How to present the Stanley Cup

06-15-2011, 12:32 PM	#1021
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	Hilarious!

06-15-2011, 05:36 PM	#1026
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	DGB is getting mentioned everywhere, from DVDVR April/May/June NHL thread - Death Valley Driver Video Review Message Board to grantland: Dear Hockey Idiot: Here Are Answers to All Your Questions About Game 7. You're Welcome. - The Triangle Blog And Simmons just tweeted this. Never mind my fucked up knee, I want to run through a brick wall now. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

06-15-2011, 06:11 PM	#1027
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Great stuff as always Sean!

06-15-2011, 07:12 PM	#1028
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Didn't realize Recchi said this would be his last game...

06-15-2011, 07:19 PM	#1029
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	I love it when the crowd sings O Canada

06-15-2011, 07:37 PM	#1030
Suburban Rhythm Pro Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Pittsburgh	If VAN continues getting these chances without scoring and then Luongo gives up a softie, it's over. __________________ "Do you guys play fast tempos with odd time signatures?" "Yeah" "Cool!!"

06-15-2011, 07:44 PM	#1032
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	More traffic in front of Luongo and more shots on goal please...

06-15-2011, 07:49 PM	#1033
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Home Team 6-0 First Team Scoring 6-0 SOMEONE'S O MUST GO! __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

06-15-2011, 07:55 PM	#1034
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Uh oh, Chara takes an elbow up high.. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

06-15-2011, 08:06 PM	#1036
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	You ever get the feeling the NHL issued a directive to the refs to let em go at it tonight.. reminds me of the line before the climactic game in Rollerball (the original): "Tonight's Championship final will be played with no substitutions, no penalties.. and no time limits!" __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

06-15-2011, 08:17 PM	#1037
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	OMG...I thought that was in. Can we get a look at that on replay in the next stoppage please?!?!?! Oh okay - totally not. Damnit!!! Last edited by DaddyTorgo : 06-15-2011 at 08:18 PM.

06-15-2011, 08:18 PM	#1038
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Marchand rings the post. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

06-15-2011, 08:31 PM	#1040
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	The few seconds.. "NO, CHARA! ARRRGGHHH YES CHARA!!! WHEW!" __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

06-15-2011, 08:33 PM	#1042
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	Looks like Thomas is going to get a shutout

06-15-2011, 08:35 PM	#1043
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Man, the ESPN.Com chat is just doing everything short of coronation on Tyler Seguin.. they're saying he's going to be a Top 10 player within four years. I don't know about that, at least he is playing better.. __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

06-15-2011, 08:36 PM	#1044
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	MARCHAND!! __________________ If I've ever helped you and you'd like to buy me a coffee, or just to say thanks, I have my Bitcoin and Ethereum addressed listed below :) BTC: bc1qykhsfyn9vw4ntqfgr0svj4n9tjdgufryh2pxn5 ETH: 0x2AcdC5cd88EA537063553F5b240073bE067BaCa9

06-15-2011, 08:36 PM	#1045
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	That's two! Keep it up! __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

06-15-2011, 08:37 PM	#1046
bhlloy Coordinator Join Date: Nov 2003	Own goal Luongo. He just looks very tentative tonight.

06-15-2011, 08:42 PM	#1047
Dr. Sak Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Stuck in Yinzerville, PA	I'm convinced someone in the Bruins' brass made a deal with the devil.

06-15-2011, 08:42 PM	#1049
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	Wow, they let the flying elbow go but call that? Ok.. Time for a PK, bruins! __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

06-15-2011, 08:46 PM	#1050
SirFozzie Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: The State of Insanity	SHORTIE! OR A PENALTY SHOT! __________________ Check out Foz's New Video Game Site, An 8-bit Mind in an 8GB world! http://an8bitmind.com

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