Werewolf L Kate Beckinsale - day 7, deadline Thursday 10pm Eastern Time - Page 22

tanglewood · 07-30-2007, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

Why don't we have our wolf seer check her tonight? I'd think that would be a fairly obvious call.

I don't think that she necessarily has a role. I wanted to post in the thread a recommendation for a seer to view her, but was disallowed by st.cronin. I guess now it's in the open it's ok for me to say that now.

path12 · 07-30-2007, 08:36 PM

If I was one of our seers I'd likely go that way. But no biggie. I've got other avenues I'm just as interested in.

Barkeep49 · 07-30-2007, 08:36 PM

Ok couple things:

First Alan didn't vicariously clear Cartman of being a wolf, only the scientist (as we're presuming our scientist tested him for that). So cartman is only slightly less likely to be evil than before.

Second, Ant: As soon as Alan gave the full information I made the right judgment call. Based off of the information we had at the time, I don't think my analysis on Alan was poor. It just was based off of incomplete information.

So I don't really like any of the lynch candidates today, quite frankly. I'm sort of at a loss about what to do. Leaning towards Tangle though.

Neon_Chaos · 07-30-2007, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JHandley

Thank ya.

I'm not willing to move my vote and create another no lynch. I liked my reasons for Antmeister.

I checked with Cronin about it, and he told me that the information gained out of the "incident" can be used to form opinions. At some point we're going to have to deal with Oliegirl/DC. She clearly has a role, she clearly believed herself to be a wolf and she clearly believed Tangle, Gonzo and Neon to be wolves.

We know Chief was a wolf, so obviously her information was sketchy at best, but what role could she possibly have that doesn't make her a wolf?

Just to say, I have ignored it as much as I could, and have put it in the back of my mind until cronin up and revealed it. Tangle, Gonzo and DC were the players I shared the initial PM with. I think DC "replied to all".

path12 · 07-30-2007, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

I don't think she necessarily had a role. I too had a PM that was sent to a group, and said something to the effect of "if you don't get another PM you're a villager," and yet as I PMed DC after, I almost did the same thing and thought I was a wolf.

I got one of those too, BTW. More I think about it the more I think it's likely nothing.

Gonzo · 07-30-2007, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

More I think about it the more I think it's likely nothing.

Same here.

path12 · 07-30-2007, 08:39 PM

Barkeep, now that you're in thread, I'm interested in your thoughts on KWhit. I'm going through all his posts right now, but as you know that's time consuming as hell.

Barkeep49 · 07-30-2007, 08:39 PM

Frankly I think DC is very harsh on herself and very unforgiving. I really don't think the PM thing means anything.

Barkeep49 · 07-30-2007, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

Barkeep, now that you're in thread, I'm interested in your thoughts on KWhit. I'm going through all his posts right now, but as you know that's time consuming as hell.

Don't have much of a feel for him frankly. There are lots of players at this point in the game who I don't have much of a feel for, but that's somewhat to be expected, I think, with 15 players alive.

tanglewood · 07-30-2007, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo

Ditto with tangle, although he is being VERY helpful all of a sudden. Maybe too helpful?

Fwiw, the reason for all the chart posting etc. is because as it seemed certain with half an hour to or so to go that I was going down last night I asked st.cronin if it would be ok to upload my spreadsheet I have been tracking votes and making notes on instead of the traditional last few words speech as it would be quicker. He said it was ok, then when it turned out I survived I decided to start to post some of it up anyway. This is the second game I've played in where I've kept a spreadsheet and I find it helps collate thoughts and run through scenarios. Doesn't automatically turn me into a good player unfortunately.

DaddyTorgo · 07-30-2007, 08:46 PM

I like it tangle. It's very helpful

Barkeep49 · 07-30-2007, 08:46 PM

While I don't really like or dislike either of them, I think tangle is less likely to be bad than Gonzo. If Gonzo has played in several games, I just don't think he'd be so skeptical about Alan's reveal.

Vote Gonzo

KWhit · 07-30-2007, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by path12

Barkeep, now that you're in thread, I'm interested in your thoughts on KWhit.

He thinks I'm sexy and a tiger in the sack.

path12 · 07-30-2007, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Frankly I think DC is very harsh on herself and very unforgiving.

Agree completely. Hope she keeps playing.

Gonzo · 07-30-2007, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

If Gonzo has played in several games

I have?

Schmidty · 07-30-2007, 08:49 PM

Frankly, BK has used frankly twice in his last two posts. Is he telling us that he hasn't been frank so far? Frankly, I don't know.

tanglewood · 07-30-2007, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

Barkeep, now that you're in thread, I'm interested in your thoughts on KWhit. I'm going through all his posts right now, but as you know that's time consuming as hell.

All of Kwhit's vote posts:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kwhit 99

Just to keep things close...

VOTE TELLE

Early first day, Jonathan Ezarik was 3/1 ahead of Telle

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Originally Posted by Kwhit 171

I dunno if I'll be around later or not, so I'm going to switch my vote to tangle since he's been pretty absent from the thread (just one post so far). And he already has a vote on him, so it will keep the voting close, which is important on day 1, I believe.

UNVOTE TELLE
VOTE TANGLEWOOD

Day 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kwhit 344

I'm going to be in and out today, but just in case I can't get another vote out there:

VOTE NEON CHAOS

Since he didn't vote yesterday.

Was the first vote on Neon that day.

Day 3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kwhit 585

The late votes last night don't make a whole lot of sense, and to me the most suspicious one was from RendeR.

For now, I'm voting for him:

VOTE RENDER

I know I'm tying it up with that, but there's still over an hour left.

I HUMBLY SUGGEST THAT PEOPLE DON'T WAIT UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE TO VOTE UNLESS YOU'RE A WOLF. IT'S JUST TOO RISKY WITH THE VOTE SO CLOSE AND WE NEED A LYNCH TONIGHT!

Tied up Alan T with Render at 4 each.

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Originally Posted by Kwhit 610

It's still early enough for me to tie it up with this:

UNVOTE RENDER
VOTE NEON CHAOS

Obviously, we need to not have a tie tonight, but I think NC is a better lynch tonight than AlanT.

Then tied it up Alan T with Neon Chaos at 4-4.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kwhit 769

UNVOTE NEON CHAOS
VOTE CHIEF RUM

Was the fifth player to vote on Chief Rum to make it 5-4 vs me, but I had not moved onto Chief Rum yet.

Day 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kwhit 976

VOTE ANTMEISTER

After thinking this through, I think Ant is a better play than Gonzo or Render. I don't have a strong feeling of guilt from anyone else yet either, so for now my vote goes to Ant.

JHandley · 07-30-2007, 08:49 PM

Ant 6 / Gon 5 / BK 1 / TW 2

Is this right?

path12 · 07-30-2007, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit

He thinks I'm sexy and a tiger in the sack.

We knew that from the photos.

Barkeep49 · 07-30-2007, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo

I have?

Perhaps not here, but elsewhere.

cartman · 07-30-2007, 08:54 PM

Uh oh, we might be heading to another tie

Gonzo · 07-30-2007, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Perhaps not here, but elsewhere.

Role reveals are discouraged on Paradox due to the crazy game mechanics we have.

tanglewood · 07-30-2007, 08:55 PM

I think it's a 6-6 tie between Antmeister and Gonzo at the moment.

tanglewood · 07-30-2007, 08:56 PM

If it gets near a tie I will unvote/switch votes to make sure we get a lynch.

Neon_Chaos · 07-30-2007, 08:56 PM

Time's ticking.

Barkeep49 · 07-30-2007, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo

Role reveals are discouraged on Paradox due to the crazy game mechanics we have.

Role reveals tend to be discouraged everywhere, I think.

Gonzo · 07-30-2007, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tanglewood

If it gets near a tie I will unvote/switch votes to make sure we get a lynch.

So vote for Antmeister if you think it's a tie.

Neon_Chaos · 07-30-2007, 08:57 PM

So it's a 6-6 tie with Barkeep's being the tying vote?

Anyone have a correct estimate?

tanglewood · 07-30-2007, 08:57 PM

Players online right now:

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 11 (11 members and 0 guests)
tanglewood, Antmeister, cartman, Gonzo, JHandley, KWhit, Neon_Chaos, oliegirl, path12, Schmidty, Telle

JHandley · 07-30-2007, 08:57 PM

is it 6-5 or 6-6?

Antmeister · 07-30-2007, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tanglewood

If it gets near a tie I will unvote/switch votes to make sure we get a lynch.

And you would be killing a villager.

st.cronin · 07-30-2007, 08:58 PM

Is this right:

Vote count:

6 - Antmeister - Neon_Chaos (910), JHandley (973), KWhit (976), cartman (977), oliegirl (978), Gonzo (1004)
6 - Gonzo - LoneStarGirl (951), Telle (971), RendeR (1030), tanglewood (1034), Antmeister (1037), Barkeep49 (1062)
3 - tanglewood - path12 (981), Schmidty (1009), DaddyTorgo (1045)

JHandley · 07-30-2007, 08:58 PM

If tangle is going to switch, I'm going to stay. I don't know where
this contempt for Gonzo was all day, but it seems mightly late in the
day for a second canidate to arise.

Gonzo · 07-30-2007, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antmeister

And you would be killing a villager.

Well if I get lynched you would kill a villager as well.

But both would be preferable to a no-lynch at this stage.

Barkeep49 · 07-30-2007, 08:58 PM

Ant, vote to save yourself.

KWhit · 07-30-2007, 08:58 PM

I'm afraid about 4 people are all about to switch their vote and we'll still end up in a tie.

tanglewood · 07-30-2007, 08:58 PM

It is 6-6.

And ant it would be better to kill a villager than a tie. Another tie and we are dead in the water IMHO.

path12 · 07-30-2007, 08:58 PM

UNVOTE TANGLEWOOD
VOTE ANTMEISTER

Sorry Ant, gotta have a lynch.

tanglewood · 07-30-2007, 08:59 PM

Ok.

Unvote Gonzo

Still watching.

Barkeep49 · 07-30-2007, 08:59 PM

For future reference here's who is around: Barkeep49, Alan T, Antmeister, cartman, Gonzo, JHandley, KWhit, Lathum, Neon_Chaos, oliegirl, path12, Schmidty, tanglewood, Telle

tanglewood · 07-30-2007, 08:59 PM

7-5 to Ant now.

Barkeep49 · 07-30-2007, 08:59 PM

So it's going to be Ant by a two vote margin.

Barkeep49 · 07-30-2007, 09:00 PM

Ok that should be deadline.

Gonzo · 07-30-2007, 09:00 PM

That was a close run thing.

tanglewood · 07-30-2007, 09:00 PM

Sorry, Ant, I'd have rather lynched Gonzo but KWhit, JHandley, Neon Chaos, Cartman and Olliegirl wouldn't switch.

path12 · 07-30-2007, 09:01 PM

Never mind oliegirl for now -- someone scan Gonzo tonight.

Antmeister · 07-30-2007, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49

Ok that should be deadline.

I already voted for Gonzo.

JHandley · 07-30-2007, 09:01 PM

I'm not opposed to voting Gonzo tomorrow. I just couldn't switch and take the chance of a tie.

st.cronin · 07-30-2007, 09:01 PM

deadline

Gonzo · 07-30-2007, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12

Never mind oliegirl for now -- someone scan Gonzo tonight.

Please!

07-30-2007, 08:36 PM	#1052
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	If I was one of our seers I'd likely go that way. But no biggie. I've got other avenues I'm just as interested in. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

07-30-2007, 08:39 PM	#1057
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Barkeep, now that you're in thread, I'm interested in your thoughts on KWhit. I'm going through all his posts right now, but as you know that's time consuming as hell. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

07-30-2007, 08:54 PM	#1071
cartman Death Herald Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Le stelle la notte sono grandi e luminose nel cuore profondo del Texas	Uh oh, we might be heading to another tie __________________ Thinkin' of a master plan 'Cuz ain't nuthin' but sweat inside my hand So I dig into my pocket, all my money is spent So I dig deeper but still comin' up with lint

07-30-2007, 08:56 PM	#1075
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	Time's ticking. __________________ Come and see.

07-30-2007, 08:57 PM	#1078
Neon_Chaos Pro Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Parañaque, Philippines	So it's a 6-6 tie with Barkeep's being the tying vote? Anyone have a correct estimate? __________________ Come and see.

07-30-2007, 08:36 PM	#1053
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Ok couple things: First Alan didn't vicariously clear Cartman of being a wolf, only the scientist (as we're presuming our scientist tested him for that). So cartman is only slightly less likely to be evil than before. Second, Ant: As soon as Alan gave the full information I made the right judgment call. Based off of the information we had at the time, I don't think my analysis on Alan was poor. It just was based off of incomplete information. So I don't really like any of the lynch candidates today, quite frankly. I'm sort of at a loss about what to do. Leaning towards Tangle though.

07-30-2007, 08:39 PM	#1058
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Frankly I think DC is very harsh on herself and very unforgiving. I really don't think the PM thing means anything.

07-30-2007, 08:46 PM	#1061
DaddyTorgo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Massachusetts	I like it tangle. It's very helpful

07-30-2007, 08:46 PM	#1062
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	While I don't really like or dislike either of them, I think tangle is less likely to be bad than Gonzo. If Gonzo has played in several games, I just don't think he'd be so skeptical about Alan's reveal. Vote Gonzo

07-30-2007, 08:49 PM	#1066
Schmidty Coordinator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Early, TX	Frankly, BK has used frankly twice in his last two posts. Is he telling us that he hasn't been frank so far? Frankly, I don't know.

07-30-2007, 08:49 PM	#1068
JHandley High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle	Ant 6 / Gon 5 / BK 1 / TW 2 Is this right?

07-30-2007, 08:55 PM	#1073
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	I think it's a 6-6 tie between Antmeister and Gonzo at the moment.

07-30-2007, 08:56 PM	#1074
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	If it gets near a tie I will unvote/switch votes to make sure we get a lynch.

07-30-2007, 08:57 PM	#1079
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	Players online right now: Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 11 (11 members and 0 guests) tanglewood, Antmeister, cartman, Gonzo, JHandley, KWhit, Neon_Chaos, oliegirl, path12, Schmidty, Telle

07-30-2007, 08:57 PM	#1080
JHandley High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle	is it 6-5 or 6-6?

07-30-2007, 08:58 PM	#1082
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	Is this right: Vote count: 6 - Antmeister - Neon_Chaos (910), JHandley (973), KWhit (976), cartman (977), oliegirl (978), Gonzo (1004) 6 - Gonzo - LoneStarGirl (951), Telle (971), RendeR (1030), tanglewood (1034), Antmeister (1037), Barkeep49 (1062) 3 - tanglewood - path12 (981), Schmidty (1009), DaddyTorgo (1045) __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

07-30-2007, 08:58 PM	#1083
JHandley High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle	If tangle is going to switch, I'm going to stay. I don't know where this contempt for Gonzo was all day, but it seems mightly late in the day for a second canidate to arise.

07-30-2007, 08:58 PM	#1085
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Ant, vote to save yourself.

07-30-2007, 08:58 PM	#1086
KWhit Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Conyers GA	I'm afraid about 4 people are all about to switch their vote and we'll still end up in a tie.

07-30-2007, 08:58 PM	#1087
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	It is 6-6. And ant it would be better to kill a villager than a tie. Another tie and we are dead in the water IMHO.

07-30-2007, 08:58 PM	#1088
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	UNVOTE TANGLEWOOD VOTE ANTMEISTER Sorry Ant, gotta have a lynch. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

07-30-2007, 08:59 PM	#1089
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	Ok. Unvote Gonzo Still watching.

07-30-2007, 08:59 PM	#1090
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	For future reference here's who is around: Barkeep49, Alan T, Antmeister, cartman, Gonzo, JHandley, KWhit, Lathum, Neon_Chaos, oliegirl, path12, Schmidty, tanglewood, Telle

07-30-2007, 08:59 PM	#1091
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	7-5 to Ant now.

07-30-2007, 08:59 PM	#1092
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	So it's going to be Ant by a two vote margin.

07-30-2007, 09:00 PM	#1093
Barkeep49 Coordinator Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Not too far away	Ok that should be deadline.

07-30-2007, 09:00 PM	#1094
Gonzo Mascot Join Date: Jul 2007	That was a close run thing.

07-30-2007, 09:00 PM	#1095
tanglewood College Benchwarmer Join Date: Oct 2004	Sorry, Ant, I'd have rather lynched Gonzo but KWhit, JHandley, Neon Chaos, Cartman and Olliegirl wouldn't switch.

07-30-2007, 09:01 PM	#1096
path12 Coordinator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Seattle, WA	Never mind oliegirl for now -- someone scan Gonzo tonight. __________________ We have always been at war with Eastasia.

07-30-2007, 09:01 PM	#1098
JHandley High School Varsity Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle	I'm not opposed to voting Gonzo tomorrow. I just couldn't switch and take the chance of a tie.

07-30-2007, 09:01 PM	#1099
st.cronin General Manager Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Mexico	deadline __________________ co-commish: bb-bbcf.net knives out

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