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Old 07-08-2007, 08:55 PM   #1051
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I have to tell you that Ardent's social life seems PACKED ever since he got out of the Navy. That man never seems to have two seconds these days.
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Old 07-08-2007, 08:55 PM   #1052
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Only because I'm a villager, LSG.
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Old 07-08-2007, 08:56 PM   #1053
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I'll keep it in mind.

Right now, I think we learn something whether hoops or dies or someone else does. Which is all I really wanted to do when I switched to AE anyway.
What's this crap about learning something. If we don't lynch a wolf today we lose. There is no more time to learn.
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Old 07-08-2007, 08:56 PM   #1054
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Ding ding, BK.
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Old 07-08-2007, 08:57 PM   #1055
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BK, I am concerned you're staying on path. What good does that vote do us right now? I believe you are a villager. Being the stand alone vote on someone doesn't tell us anything.
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Old 07-08-2007, 08:57 PM   #1056
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Personally, I was hoping we would learn if AE is a wolf with today's vote. Silly me.
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Old 07-08-2007, 08:58 PM   #1057
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What's this crap about learning something. If we don't lynch a wolf today we lose. There is no more time to learn.

Three wolves, nine of us left. We lynch one, they kill one. We still have a 4-3 advantage. It doesn't end today.
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Old 07-08-2007, 08:58 PM   #1058
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Ding ding, BK.
Well I'm not voting for you as I think you're a villager. I mean I could shift my vote to Ardent but that makes me nervous as well. I guess in the end I feel better about you than ardent though we both know, I think, that path is the evil one in this game .

Unvote Path
Vote Ardent
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Old 07-08-2007, 08:58 PM   #1059
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BK, I am concerned you're staying on path. What good does that vote do us right now? I believe you are a villager. Being the stand alone vote on someone doesn't tell us anything.
Sure it does. It tells you that I think path is a wolf. What else do you want to learn?
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Old 07-08-2007, 08:58 PM   #1060
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And that's worst case scenario (we could, after all, lynch a wolf today).
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Old 07-08-2007, 08:58 PM   #1061
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Three wolves, nine of us left. We lynch one, they kill one. We still have a 4-3 advantage. It doesn't end today.

That is what I was thinking.... maybe our math is wrong?
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Old 07-08-2007, 08:58 PM   #1062
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Three wolves, nine of us left. We lynch one, they kill one. We still have a 4-3 advantage. It doesn't end today.
There is no way all four villagers will get it right tomorrow unless we have a seer reveal.
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Old 07-08-2007, 08:59 PM   #1063
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vote count anybody? 5-4 hoops vs ardent?
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Old 07-08-2007, 08:59 PM   #1064
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When I'm gone, here is the order I would look:

1. Path
2. Ardent
3. NTN

Throw in RendeR as a close 4th, but I don't think they would all group together on the vote when there are enough villagers willing to help them out with today's vote.
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Old 07-08-2007, 08:59 PM   #1065
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Are there seers in this game?
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Old 07-08-2007, 08:59 PM   #1066
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vote count anybody? 5-4 hoops vs ardent?
Correct.

Unvote Ardent
Vote path
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Old 07-08-2007, 08:59 PM   #1067
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Needless to say because of this potion Pass through at me, I now trust him completely
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:00 PM   #1068
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Vote count, as of Post #1064:
Hoops - Path (842), LSG (925), Pass (941), Ardent (973), RendeR (1026)
Ardent - Chief (1006), Hoops (1014), NTN (1015), Barkeep (1058)
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:00 PM   #1069
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Unvote path
Vote Ardent
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:00 PM   #1070
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I'm done.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:00 PM   #1071
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UNVOTE HOOPS
VOTE ARDENT
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:00 PM   #1072
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even if i move to ardent right now its still 4-4

i hate second guessing myself
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:01 PM   #1073
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are you guys kidding?
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:01 PM   #1074
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Damn.

I regret my vote already. Wish I had stayed on path.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:01 PM   #1075
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That is what I was thinking.... maybe our math is wrong?

Nothing wrong with our math, just Barkeep's optimism.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:01 PM   #1076
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Deadline
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:01 PM   #1077
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Wow, late vote changes, tie vote, what happens in a tie alan?
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:01 PM   #1078
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Why the move Barkeep? You just killed Ardent
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:02 PM   #1079
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I show final tally as 5-4 Ardent.

Hoops - Path (842), LSG (925), Ardent (973), RendeR (1026)
Ardent - Chief (1006), Hoops (1014), NTN (1015), Barkeep (1069), Pass (1071)
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:02 PM   #1080
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its not a tie
5-4 Ardent over Hoops
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:02 PM   #1081
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This game is messed up.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:02 PM   #1082
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err, wait...not a tie?
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:03 PM   #1083
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I'm very disappointed with myself.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:03 PM   #1084
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Wow, we truly haven't got a freaking clue have we? How many votes switched in that last 3 minutes?
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:03 PM   #1085
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Why the move Barkeep? You just killed Ardent

BK wasn't the final vote. It was Pass. All that said, none of us on Ardent are absolved if he is a villager.

I still think with analysis we will learn tons from today's vote.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:03 PM   #1086
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This game just got a whole lot more interesting

Too bad ardent is too busy with 4400 to be here
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:04 PM   #1087
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Why the move Barkeep? You just killed Ardent
I did because I believed in hoops. I just didn't think it through all the way.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:04 PM   #1088
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If Ardent isn't a wolf, and we don't learn anything cool during evening actions then I'll self-vote Nightfall. I honestly don't have the energy to go through this again tomorrow.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:04 PM   #1089
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I need like 5-8 minutes to make sure I have the proper vote counts, who the deciding votes are and to write it up. Alot of fireworks at the end there
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:04 PM   #1090
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Pass moved his vote for a tie, he didn't know Barkeep was going to move his vote
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:04 PM   #1091
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BK wasn't the final vote. It was Pass. All that said, none of us on Ardent are absolved if he is a villager.

I still think with analysis we will learn tons from today's vote.
How do you expect to get all 4 villagers to do the same thing tomorrow if Ardent is a villager?
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:04 PM   #1092
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I did because I believed in hoops. I just didn't think it through all the way.

What didn't you think through?
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:05 PM   #1093
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Pass moved his vote for a tie, he didn't know Barkeep was going to move his vote
WHy is a tie better?
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:05 PM   #1094
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I'm very disappointed with myself.

Don't be. Without your vote, we don't learn nearly as much from this. Either way, I think a villager would have died today.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:06 PM   #1095
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What didn't you think through?
If you are a wolf I gave cover to a wolf moving off of you.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:06 PM   #1096
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I am not sure I understand why a tie is better too.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:06 PM   #1097
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Don't be. Without your vote, we don't learn nearly as much from this. Either way, I think a villager would have died today.
So then why did you lead the charge onto Ardent?
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:07 PM   #1098
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Pass moved his vote for a tie, he didn't know Barkeep was going to move his vote

A tie doesn't lynch anyone. Not much good in that.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:08 PM   #1099
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How do you expect to get all 4 villagers to do the same thing tomorrow if Ardent is a villager?

I don't expect anything. We will all take a look at the results and see what shakes out. I already have in mind several moves in the past hour that says a lot about some suspicions I had.
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Old 07-08-2007, 09:08 PM   #1100
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A tie doesn't lynch anyone. Not much good in that.
We don't know that. We don't know that at all. And frankly not losing a villager at this stage of the game is pretty important.
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