NFL 2021 Regular Season Thread

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by spleen1015

He's played his ass off despite the injury and shitty o-line play. Looks like a good trade to me.

You must be an Eagles fan.

[Brian Swartz]

Here's the Lions we all know and ... well, we all know. Nice of the Packers to let them get ahead, knowing they were likely to not be able to stay in front.

[GrantDawg]

Imagine....

Wild.

One bettor at @BetMGM has a 16-game parlay on the line tonight. $25 to win $726, 959.

WFT-175
Bears -130
Browns -650
Rams -190
Bills -175
Pats -250
49ers -160
Raiders +190
Panthers +150
Broncos -275
Cardinals -190
Bucs -650
Cowboys +135
Titans +190
Ravens +180
Lions +400

— Greg Rosenstein (@grosenstein) September 20, 2021

[albionmoonlight]

Originally Posted by GrantDawg

Imagine....

Wild.

One bettor at @BetMGM has a 16-game parlay on the line tonight. $25 to win $726, 959.

WFT-175
Bears -130
Browns -650
Rams -190
Bills -175
Pats -250
49ers -160
Raiders +190
Panthers +150
Broncos -275
Cardinals -190
Bucs -650
Cowboys +135
Titans +190
Ravens +180
Lions +400

— Greg Rosenstein (@grosenstein) September 20, 2021

I hope he was able to hedge

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

I hope he was able to hedge

Doubtful. Packers were -550 pregame. I doubt someone betting 16 team parlays for $25 has a couple hundred grand laying around.

[spleen1015]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

You must be an Eagles fan.

Nope. Another shitty take.

[Honolulu_Blue]

The Lions offense has zero margin for error. The first time they really make a mistake - not converting that 4th and 1 - things go off the rails. In general, the offense is decent enough, but they can't afford to make mistakes, which is a tough position to be in.

The defense is just terrible. They have no depth or talent at cornerback and have suffered a couple of injuries there. Their safeties stink. Their linebackers are awful. The back seven is complete garbage. Quinntricia just decimated this team in terms of defensive talent.

The Lions could easily be in play for the #1 overall pick. Sadly, at the moment, I am not aware of a stellar talent at the top of the draft that could really help change the trajectory of this eternally awful franchise.

[QuikSand]

Lions offense is not good, but it seems to be better than I (and most) would have expected. If this team is in fact on a trajectory to be competitive in a couple of years, they might look back on this season as the time when they figured out wat they have to work with in guys like Jonah Jackson, Logan Stenberg, and the fleet of young receivers who figure to get more on-field time than their stations would suggest (Cephus, St. Brown, even Raymond).

Seems to me their wisest plan, absent a "go for it" QB draftee landing in their laps, is to build the Denver way - try to put together a good overall roster and position themselves to be serious that way, whether it's by plugging in a game manager at QB or by landing a free agent on the attractiveness of the complementary pieces.

I still don't love letting Golladay just walk (not sure what they'll get as a compensatory pick but it isn't enough)... but past QB the obvious team need seems to be a difference-making receiver there.

Oh, and I suppose the defense could use some touch-ups.

[jbergey22]

You could say this with almost every NFL game but reverse the outcomes of 3 plays and that game goes down to the wire.

1. GB 21-17. Detroit fails that 4th and 1 at the GB 20(?)
2. GB 21-17. Rogers completes that 50 yard perfect pass to Adams on 3rd and 12.
3. GB 28-17. Goff fumbles right after Green Bay scores and gives Green Bay an immediate scoring chance.

Of course Rogers and the Green Bay offense looked great against the overmatched Detroit defense but I was impressed by how effectively(most of the game) Detroit moved the ball against the Green Bay defense.

[Lathum]

I really have to stop arguing with idiots on Twitter.

Some dude is trying to tell me that the Falcons in cap hell with Matt Ryan are in a better overall position moving forward than the Jags with the consensus #1 pick and 75 million in cap space.

I can't even...

[GrantDawg]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I really have to stop arguing with idiots on Twitter.

Some dude is trying to tell me that the Falcons in cap hell with Matt Ryan are in a better overall position moving forward than the Jags with the consensus #1 pick and 75 million in cap space.

I can't even...

People are dumb. The Falcons need to blow up the roster and do a total rebuild. I just don't think Blank is going to let them.They have a couple of pieces they can get real value for, and they are going to be in cap hell for at least the next two years.

[bhlloy]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

You could say this with almost every NFL game but reverse the outcomes of 3 plays and that game goes down to the wire.

1. GB 21-17. Detroit fails that 4th and 1 at the GB 20(?)
2. GB 21-17. Rogers completes that 50 yard perfect pass to Adams on 3rd and 12.
3. GB 28-17. Goff fumbles right after Green Bay scores and gives Green Bay an immediate scoring chance.

Of course Rogers and the Green Bay offense looked great against the overmatched Detroit defense but I was impressed by how effectively(most of the game) Detroit moved the ball against the Green Bay defense.

That’s really Goff’s MO at this point though. The fourth down was a terrible read to throw to a blanketed receiver instead of two wide open guys in the middle of the field and the fumble was the fumble. He looked great early but made enough mistakes to cost his team the game, and he doesn’t have the Rams defense at this stop to bail him out some of the time.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by Lathum

I really have to stop arguing with idiots on Twitter.

Some dude is trying to tell me that the Falcons in cap hell with Matt Ryan are in a better overall position moving forward than the Jags with the consensus #1 pick and 75 million in cap space.

I can't even...

Well the Jags are still the Jacksonville "one winning season in the last 13 years" Jaguars.

Just saying.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Well the Jags are still the Jacksonville "one winning season in the last 13 years" Jaguars.

Just saying.

Plus many players on the team apparently already really dislike Urban Meyer

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by NobodyHere

Well the Jags are still the Jacksonville "one winning season in the last 13 years" Jaguars.

Just saying.

There is not on GM in the league who would take a job based on a teams past performance.

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Plus many players on the team apparently already really dislike Urban Meyer

You can replace him easily enough. Trever Lawrence like talents don't come along often.

[bhlloy]

There are GMs who will take a job based on ownership stability and the overall desirability of the franchise to players though. Not saying your original premise is wrong, but it’s not necessarily just about the roster. A lot of talented players have done all they can to get out of Jacksonville in the past few years.

[Lathum]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

There are GMs who will take a job based on ownership stability and the overall desirability of the franchise to players though. Not saying your original premise is wrong, but it’s not necessarily just about the roster. A lot of talented players have done all they can to get out of Jacksonville in the past few years.

Completely agree ownership and culture plays a part, but for the sake of this argument Jax is light years ahead of Alt when it comes to resources.

[albionmoonlight]

There are only 32 NFL GM jobs and 32 NFL Head Coach jobs in the world.

It is the rare candidate who is such a stud that he can afford to turn one of them down b/c he's sure a better opportunity will arise.

[JPhillips]

If you said the Falcons are in a better place than the Bengals because of Mike Brown, I couldn't argue that.

[bhlloy]

Can only assume these refs are getting paid by the flag tonight

[albionmoonlight]

The "any offensive team and/or player coached by Adam Gase is significantly better than Gase makes them seem" theory is alive and well.

I think that somewhere on Payton Manning's HOF plaque should be the phrase "And he managed to do all this with Adam fucking Gase coaching him for part of it"

[Coffee Warlord]

We've secretly replaced Bears offensive game plan with one created by John Shoop. Let's see if anyone notices.

[Coffee Warlord]

Bears end the 1st half with .... 2 first downs, and 41 yards.

[bhlloy]

I forgot to bench Dalton for Fields in the fantasy league that QS runs... and it might not even matter

[Coffee Warlord]

Jesus this is painful to watch. Refs give the Bears a gift PI call, which like quadruples their total offense on the day.

[bhlloy]

I'm so old I remember when this was going to be one of the best rookie QB seasons in NFL history

[thesloppy]

12 sacks in that CLE CHI game??

[bhlloy]

Also the rumors of Carson Wentz's demise were not exaggerated. He looks absolutely terrible throwing the ball.

[Coffee Warlord]

Cameras caught Foles talking to Dalton on the sideline, telling him "The offense just isn't working."

[Atocep]

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord

Jesus this is painful to watch. Refs give the Bears a gift PI call, which like quadruples their total offense on the day.

If anyone wondered what it would be like if a rookie started his first game against a top defense with a terrible offensive line and the coach made no adjustments to give his rookie extra protection or do anything during the game to punish the other team for blitzing every play this is the game to see.

[Coffee Warlord]

Fields day -
6 completions for 68 yards.
9 sacks for 67 yards.

+1 passing yards. Total.

[thesloppy]

Holy crap that finish in DET BAL.

[albionmoonlight]

Who are our Lions fans on the board? Honolulu Blue and who else? I’m not even kidding when I say if you DM me your info, I’ll Venmo you $5 for a beer. What a soul-destroying way to lose.

[bronconick]

The Lions love to be the team that gives up record breaking field goals.

[larrymcg421]

It has sucked to be a Dolphins fan for most of the last two decades, but today just reminds me of how much worse it could be.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Who are our Lions fans on the board? Honolulu Blue and who else? I’m not even kidding when I say if you DM me your info, I’ll Venmo you $5 for a beer. What a soul-destroying way to lose.

They're tied for my second favorite team, does that count?

[bhlloy]

Heartbreaking way to lose but in all honesty the Lions need to lose as many games for the next couple of years as they can to build that roster back up.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Heartbreaking way to lose but in all honesty the Lions need to lose as many games for the next couple of years as they can to build that roster back up.

Just how many years do they need to lose in order to build up a roster? Have you lived through the Matt Millen years?

[thesloppy]

I'm a Lions fan, to the point that that loss didn't feel all that remarkable.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight

Who are our Lions fans on the board? Honolulu Blue and who else? I’m not even kidding when I say if you DM me your info, I’ll Venmo you $5 for a beer. What a soul-destroying way to lose.

I appreciate the thought! It’s just a very Lions way to lose. Give up a 4th and 19 and then lose on a record breaking field goal… If it’s going to happen to any team, it’ll be the Lions. None of it’s all that shocking or heartbreaking at this point.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by bhlloy

Heartbreaking way to lose but in all honesty the Lions need to lose as many games for the next couple of years as they can to build that roster back up.

I just wish there was some super elite top end talent waiting there at number one overall. I am just not aware of that player yet.

[Honolulu_Blue]

Originally Posted by thesloppy

I'm a Lions fan, to the point that that loss didn't feel all that remarkable.

Exactly.

[bronconick]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

I appreciate the thought! It’s just a very Lions way to lose. Give up a 4th and 19 and then lose on a record breaking field goal… If it’s going to happen to any team, it’ll be the Lions. None of it’s all that shocking or heartbreaking at this point.

I literally told a friend that Tucker was going to hit a 60 yarder to win it after they took the lead. I was only off on the yardage.

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

Exactly.

[Bobble]

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue

I just wish there was some super elite top end talent waiting there at number one overall. I am just not aware of that player yet.

This. I'm a Lions fan. I don't mind a loss. It's known that we were going to suck this season. We can use the draft picks now that (I think anyway) we have an organization that can properly identify and effectively use those picks. So, a game where we were competitive but still kept ahold of a great pick is just fine. Druther a win but this is fine.

[Thomkal]

Big Statement wins from the Bengals and Chargers today. Big I'm sorry to Bears and Lions fans.

[cartman]

Justin Tucker is pretty pretty good

[Coffee Warlord]

Some early rumors that there's multiple Bears who are very fed up with Nagy.

[bob]

As a Lions fan the only entertainment value left is when they find new ways to lose

[NobodyHere]

Originally Posted by spleen1015

He's played his ass off despite the injury and shitty o-line play. Looks like a good trade to me.

At this rate the Eagles are going to get a top ten pick.

How is this good for the Colts again?