Werewolf CXXXII: THE CUBE (Game Over: Construction Workers win!)

[Danny]

The problem with that is if you had voted Telle, you clearly have one established candidate with (according to what I think) both wolves already having their votes locked in. That would have been very dangerous as there was a day + left for Tyrith to rethink his vote.

[Danny]

And obviously Telle wouldn't vote herself and I posted I was not likely to vote Telle, so again it would have been very risky to put that 3rd vote down.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by Danny

And obviously Telle wouldn't vote herself and I posted I was not likely to vote Telle, so again it would have been very risky to put that 3rd vote down.

And yet that would have been a 3-2 vote on Telle all the same and by your guesstimation, a wolf win. So the logic doesn't fly in the slightest.

I get the vote on me, I just think your logic would have been sounder on schmidty, not me.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by Danny

The problem with that is if you had voted Telle, you clearly have one established candidate with (according to what I think) both wolves already having their votes locked in. That would have been very dangerous as there was a day + left for Tyrith to rethink his vote.

The wolves allowed a villager to be unvoted on their theoretical winning day? I can understand if this was the days before it would be fine, but not today

[MrBug708]

I can't speak for tyrith but I doubt the vote unswitches if there were three votes on someone

[Danny]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

I can't speak for tyrith but I doubt the vote unswitches if there were three votes on someone

I can't speak for him either, but if I was in his position and had two people quickly follow my vote and make it a 3-0 race, I would certainly rethink my vote.

[The Jackal]

2 - Danny - Tyrith (1043), MrBug708 (1046)
1 - Telle - Schmidty (1022)
1 - MrBug708 - Danny (1047)

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by Danny

I can't speak for him either, but if I was in his position and had two people quickly follow my vote and make it a 3-0 race, I would certainly rethink my vote.

So which instance was there a 3-0 vote made on this day? Iyour logic certainly incriminates you on the ntd vote. As far as the Telle vote, its only 2 against her, not three. No need to make up a voting pattern that hasn't happened today

[MrBug708]

I think ur play is hoping schmidty switches to me and telle obviously votes for me to save herself. In that case, is schmidty is a wolf, we have lost the game. I don't blame ur logic but if u truly are the third villager, you just lost it for us as Telle and Schmidty would then be the wolves and will obviously vote for me :[ Either way, if that's the way the voting goes, you just lost it for the villagers. Just depends on what Schmidty is and what side you are on.

Sad as ur logic dictates a vote on Schmidty and you went for me

[MrBug708]

I think ur play is hoping schmidty switches to me and telle obviously votes for me to save herself. In that case, is schmidty is a wolf, we have lost the game. I don't blame ur logic but if u truly are the third villager, you just lost it for us as Telle and Schmidty would then be the wolves and will obviously vote for me :[ Either way, if that's the way the voting goes, you just lost it for the villagers. Just depends on what Schmidty is and what side you are on.

Sad as ur logic dictates a vote on Schmidty and you went for me

[MrBug708]

Uggh...phone

[Danny]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

So which instance was there a 3-0 vote made on this day? Iyour logic certainly incriminates you on the ntd vote. As far as the Telle vote, its only 2 against her, not three. No need to make up a voting pattern that hasn't happened today

You're just putting words in my mouth now. I was givng the reason a wolf (I.E. you) would not have made that third vote.

[Danny]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

I think ur play is hoping schmidty switches to me and telle obviously votes for me to save herself. In that case, is schmidty is a wolf, we have lost the game. I don't blame ur logic but if u truly are the third villager, you just lost it for us as Telle and Schmidty would then be the wolves and will obviously vote for me :[ Either way, if that's the way the voting goes, you just lost it for the villagers. Just depends on what Schmidty is and what side you are on.

Sad as ur logic dictates a vote on Schmidty and you went for me

And if you are a villager, you lost it with your vote for me. \

You saying my logic says to vote Schmidty is ridiculous. If I vote Schmidty, whether he is a villager or a wolf, he then switches his vote to me and I and the villagers are done for.

[Schmidty]

Just got back from church (we're all still there) and lunch. It seems that I have some thinking to do here.

I don't really want to be a tool and just keep following what Tyrith is doing even though I know he's good, but I also don't want to waste my vote and allow the wolves to do some last second switching, as has been stated. I'm just going to have to think more about it and see what else happens today.

Unvote Telle

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by Danny

You're just putting words in my mouth now. I was givng the reason a wolf (I.E. you) would not have made that third vote.

And what is your reasoning for both Schmidty and I not hiding our votes on NTD during his vote? That would have been easier as it wouldn't have cleared anything about the villagers and make it even harder for that side to win.

We can look at one of his last posts

My choices of who is wolves is in the following order:
1. Telle
2. Danny
3. Mr. Bug (could be, my thoughts if you are that you voted contrary to your lupine brothers and/or sisters)
4. Schmidty (I would be pretty surprised if you are wolf)
5. Tyrith (if you are a wolve they have won anyway)
6. me. (well I know my allegience)

In fact, your logic for voting for me IS THE EXACT SAME logic that you used in NOT voting for Telle after Schmidty cast the second vote on her in the initial vote by Tyrith.

Your huge jump to conclusion that two wolves wouldn't throw their votes on the same person is a very odd statement, especially a move that wouldn't be one worth preventing this early. An early vote on a known wolf, if anything, would clear a villager probably up until the end.

The fact that you yourself did that exact same strategy, makes sense on why that would happen, as it probably is what crossed your mind, but if I were a wolf, I would have lent strength to Tyrith's vote. In the past week, Tyrith hasn't switched their vote until the last day and only because you didn't want to vote for Telle. Your the only reason Tyrith switched votes, they did exactly what you thought Tyrith was going to do. If everyone had jumped on the Telle bandwagon, I'm willing to bet that Tyrith probably would have left the vote on.

[MrBug708]

Originally Posted by Danny

And if you are a villager, you lost it with your vote for me. \

You saying my logic says to vote Schmidty is ridiculous. If I vote Schmidty, whether he is a villager or a wolf, he then switches his vote to me and I and the villagers are done for.

Yes. Schmidty was the second vote on Tyrith's first vote and yet you give him a pass. I explained why I thought your logic was faulty above. As for him changing his vote to you, that was certainly possible, but it would still come down to Telle to make the vote and I would have bet she picked Schmidty over you, considering he jumped on her to begin with. Picking me was just an odd move since your own reasoning would have meant that Schmidty would have fit your reasoning better.

[MrBug708]

I probably just convinced Schmidty to vote for me, but I was more speaking in terms of Danny's reasoning behind his vote for me. Just find it odd that he first did what he is convinced I'm doing, and thinks that a vote on me is the right move to make, in spite of this.

[Schmidty]

Originally Posted by MrBug708

I probably just convinced Schmidty to vote for me, but I was more speaking in terms of Danny's reasoning behind his vote for me. Just find it odd that he first did what he is convinced I'm doing, and thinks that a vote on me is the right move to make, in spite of this.

You haven't convinced me of anything. I still want to hear from Telle and maybe Tyrith again. I'm pretty set in understanding what you and Danny are thinking, so......yeah.

[MrBug708]

Ok. Just didnt want to defend myself by throwing someone else under the bus and getting them to vote for me. Very crafty plan by Danny

[Schmidty]

Well, I haven't seen Telle, so I'm just going to make this a consensus for now:

Vote Danny

I hope this doesn't make me look bad, but I want to put this closer to being out of the hands of the wolves. I do think it's odd that Telle hasn't voted, but maybe she just missed that the deadline was tonight.

[Schmidty]

I just don't feel good about this. Sorry Bug. I hope I didn't just screw us over.

Unvote Danny

Vote MrBug

[MrBug708]

Well...you did but Telle didnt vote so we just go another day

[Schmidty]

Wait!!! That would be a fricking tie.

Unvote Bug

Vote Danny

[The Jackal]

2 - Danny - Tyrith (1043), MrBug708 (1046)
2 - MrBug708 - Danny (1047), Schmidty (1071)

[Schmidty]

Shit.

I quit.

[MrBug708]

Who knows...maybe one of us picked the "killer room" and we off a construction worker

[The Jackal]

The Jester chuckles.

Having trouble deciding, are we?!

THE CUBE WILL DECIDE FOR YOU!

[The Jackal]

All three doors open at once and slam shut again and again. The lights flicker on and off, changing colors from every color choice that you've had.

[The Jackal]

A lightning bolt strikes in the center of the room and things go dark.

[The Jackal]

The lights slowly start to come back on and you are immersed in fog.

When the fog settles, you see the corpse of one of your cubemates, MrBug.

MrBug708 was a vanilla cube rat!

[MrBug708]

WTG guys

[The Jackal]

The Jester claps his hands merrily.

Two holes open in the ceiling and tractor beams lock on to Danny and Schmidty, removing them from the room. Telle and Tyrith scramble around, not knowing if they should want to join them or stay back.

When Danny and Schmidty have been removed the ceiling closes and the Jester's face reappears.

[Schmidty]

Shoot, darn. Golly.

[The Jackal]

The construction workers have outlasted you, cube rats! Their reward is .. their lives! Perhaps a trip to New Jersey. We haven't worked that part out yet.

Danny was a construction worker!
Schmidty was the foreman!

[Schmidty]

WOOOOOHOOOOOO!!!!

[MrBug708]

*sigh*

[The Jackal]

Slowly but surely the oxygen is sucked out of the room, leaving Tyrith and Telle gasping for their breath. As they collapse to the ground, everything goes dark. The game is over.

Tyrith was the bodyguard!
Telle was a vanilla cube rat!

[CrimsonFox]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Beautiful performance Schmidty!

[The Jackal]

(I'm about to start a movie and need to get on it or it'll end too late. I'll be happy to answer any and all questions tomorrow. I realize people on the villager side of the spectrum will have felt like this game was tilted against them, and it kind of was. The village has been owning lately, and they nearly won again. Mostly this was an experiment to see how the game would go with very limited kills. I think it was too few, though I enjoyed seeing how people came to their voting decisions near the end of the game with only one cleared player)

[The Jackal]

All decisions that were made were random, including this final vote. Everything was predetermined based on how things went during the day, but if it had to be settled by outside forces (i.e. ties), it was done randomly. The cube split was random, there was no specific assignment of wolves to each room.

[CrimsonFox]

Damnit Bug you played great. You almost had it! Seems you couldn't win today. Inactivity kinda hosed the village all week. And I must say after following this all week...Danny/Schmidty was one combination I never suspected.

[The Jackal]

The way out of the cube was Pi. The first 10 (and there would have been more if there were more days) digits of Pi were embedded each day in the number sequence. 3 was in the first slot on one of the numbers in the first day, 1 in one of the second slots on the second day, etc.

[The Jackal]

The village would have escaped if at any point three correct doors in a row were chosen (and they beat the wolves to the end).

[Danny]

I could have played the last day better, and would have liked to see how Telle would have voted, but I think the wolves did a good job as I think this was a tough game with the lack of night kills. Good game guys.

[The Jackal]

The only thing that was determined by wrong room selection outside of activating the wolf NK was that on the first wrong door the splitter would occur. After that a wrong room just meant that the village was 3 days away from escaping.

This ends my hastily written explanations, I'll get to anything else tomorrow.

[Schmidty]

Thanks for the good game, Jackal.

I figured I had a good chance to win it if I forced the last second tie. I almost forgot to vote for the door though, which would have sucked since I think that was the deciding factor in a tie. That was my hunch anyway. If only 1 of the 3 villagers either forgot to vote or voted wrong, I felt we were ok. Kind of got lucky I guess.

I like the late game. I have trouble getting into the early and mid parts, so this was a blast.

[CrimsonFox]

Danny I thought you were a wolf pretty much all game but I thoguht the combination was you and Telle. And How this week played (and not played) out, really any of you could have been wolves. VERY tough game.

And my thanks to the construction workers for killing off the scientists that hosed me to begin with.

[Schmidty]

So it seems that it was dumb luck on my part then. Oh well. It was still fun.

[mauchow]

I fucking new it. If you guys would have just went my way and killed danny when you had a chance, you might have won. I put my foot in my mouth a few times and danny just stayed cool that whole day I died.

I knew it was Schmidty, too the day I died. It was so dumb. LOL

[Schmidty]

It was kind of like my lucky Duke that one time when Lathum and I got into it afterward.